budaatum:
Define occultism so we know what we are talking about please.

budaatum:
Define occultism so we know what we are talking about please.

MightySparrow:
Class, to feel belong and be respected.

HellVictorinho:

Occultism is

PastorAIO:

Hidden ! Simples!!!

Anything that is done in secret is occult.

Matt 6:6
But when you pray, go to your room and shut the door and pray to your father who ID IN SECRET. And your father who sees in secret will reward you.

Now there a very deep and strong reason why we have occult practices.
When you are having sex you don’t do it in the middle of the market. Is that because you are ashamed of sex? Or is it because Edumare in his infinite wisdom created a place and a function for Privacy.

Secrecy enhances bonding. When you have a group of friends but 2 of them share a secret that the others don’t know. This creates a feeling of a bond between those who know. They are closer than the rest of the friendship group.

Practicing certain acts in secrecy with your lover enhances the bond between you. Imagine your wife went around town telling everyone about the shape of your cock and how you knack. That would cheapen your marriage.

In fraternities secrets are used to enhance the bond between members. It could be any secret. You could be made to do something that only members of the group know you did.
Or it could be as ridiculous as ; “ but the secret is that there is NO secret, and now what these outsiders run around trying to figure out what it is”.

The secret makes a distinction between those who know it and those who don’t.

PastorAIO:

Hidden ! Simples!!!

Anything that is done in secret is occult.

Matt 6:6
But when you pray, go to your room and shut the door and pray to your father who ID IN SECRET. And your father who sees in secret will reward you.

Now there a very deep and strong reason why we have occult practices.
When you are having sex you don’t do it in the middle of the market. Is that because you are ashamed of sex? Or is it because Edumare in his infinite wisdom created a place and a function for Privacy.

Secrecy enhances bonding. When you have a group of friends but 2 of them share a secret that the others don’t know. This creates a feeling of a bond between those who know. They are closer than the rest of the friendship group.

Practicing certain acts in secrecy with your lover enhances the bond between you. Imagine your wife went around town telling everyone about the shape of your cock and how you knack. That would cheapen your marriage.

In fraternities secrets are used to enhance the bond between members. It could be any secret. You could be made to do something that only members of the group know you did.
Or it could be as ridiculous as ; “ but the secret is that there is NO secret, and now what these outsiders run around trying to figure out what it is”.

The secret makes a distinction between those who know it and those who don’t.

HellVictorinho:

Occultism refers to that which involves the use of certain tools in ways that are only carried out by occultists.

HellVictorinho:
I know that the use of these tools in such ways causes or/and sustains self-transformation or the transformation of a human being into something else.

But I am not an occultist so I can't give examples of such tools or/and state how they can be used.
So, I want those that have been transformed into something else to state what the essence is.
What is the essence of being an occultist

HellVictorinho:

I have defined occultism already.

PastorAIO:


That wasn’t a definition. It seems more like something you’re creating for a fantasy sci-fi fiction book. Can you site any real life examples of this occult that you’re referring to. For example can you tell us some of these tools.

HellVictorinho:

What about joy

PastorAIO:


That wasn’t a definition. It seems more like something you’re creating for a fantasy sci-fi fiction book. Can you site any real life examples of this occult that you’re referring to. For example can you tell us some of these tools.

budaatum:

Hell is no good at definitions, are you Hell?

budaatum:

Which tools?


You know but can not give an example? At least you knew I was going to ask for one, lol.

I suggest you expand your mind wider than the very narrow definition of occult as understood in Nigeria.

budaatum:

Which tools?


You know but can not give an example? At least you knew I was going to ask for one, lol.

I suggest you expand your mind wider than the very narrow definition of occult as understood in Nigeria.

HellVictorinho:

There is no definition of occultism that can expose you to the tools that occultists use or/and how these tools are use.

HellVictorinho:

The reason is that occultists don't tell non-members what they use or/and how these tools are used unless such people are READY to join their groups.

HellVictorinho:

Who are you to tell me how definitions should be??

budaatum:

Not true, Hell. Occultists themselves have to be exposed to the tools that occultists use or/and how these tools are used or there will be no occultists.

What is correct is you are not exposed to the tools that occultists use or/and how these tools are used, and should, if you want to, expose yourself to the tools that occultists use or/and how these tools are used instead of stating unexposed opinions.


Not true, Hell. There are numerous books about occultism that you can read to expose yourself to the tools that occultists use or/and how these tools are used. And joining in order to reduce your ignorance about said tools is always an option.

budaatum:

buda. Though definitions have a format.

If you ever answered a definition question in school you would know what the format is.

budaatum:

Not true, Hell. Occultists themselves have to be exposed to the tools that occultists use or/and how these tools are used or there will be no occultists.

What is correct is you are not exposed to the tools that occultists use or/and how these tools are used, and should, if you want to, expose yourself to the tools that occultists use or/and how these tools are used instead of stating unexposed opinions.


Not true, Hell. There are numerous books about occultism that you can read to expose yourself to the tools that occultists use or/and how these tools are used. And joining in order to reduce your ignorance about said tools is always an option.

HellVictorinho:

There is no format that applies to every question.
Which goddamn school teaches such nonsense?

HellVictorinho:

I disagree.
If you don't join,no specific occultic group will tell you what they use or how they use anything.
Concerning the founders of such occultic groups, I think they are the only ones that were exposed to these things despite being non-occultist.
I think they came across these things by chance before introducing other people such things.

budaatum:

Hell, your "definitions" are not definitions. They neither inform you nor anyone else, and just show you know little of what you talk about.

You do not have to take my word for it however.

HellVictorinho:

State one book that tells us the tools that a specific occultic group uses.

budaatum:

I know a lot about occultism and have never been one so I can't exactly accept your less informed opinion, sorry.

budaatum:


No occultic group uses one single book, hell. They use very many. A popular one amongst some is the Holy Bible, as has already been pointed out to you. It is used by the Freemasons and the Rosicrucians.

HellVictorinho:

You never took my word for it either.
So, what makes your definition the definition?
What occultic groups have you exposed?
How many secrets have you leaked??

HellVictorinho:

I want you to tell me the things that different occultic groups from one another.
Are you saying that they are all the same?
What are the activities that differentiate occult A from occult B