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Re: Atheists, Agnostic And Freethinkers Crib by Nobody: 8:19pm On Jan 10, 2021 |
LordReed:What then happens after discussing the merits and demerits of Islam for instance? |
Re: Atheists, Agnostic And Freethinkers Crib by hakeem4(m): 8:29pm On Jan 10, 2021 |
Let me put my mat here and start drinking my palm wine |
Re: Atheists, Agnostic And Freethinkers Crib by hakeem4(m): 9:56pm On Jan 10, 2021 |
LordReed:I think I agree with what hellvictorinho is saying. Religion makes rational people do stupid things. (Yes! We have good religious people, but most evil are done on the name of religion and there’s enough empirical evidence) |
Re: Atheists, Agnostic And Freethinkers Crib by LordReed(m): 10:47pm On Jan 10, 2021 |
hakeem4: Love makes rational people do stupid things, is love evil? |
Re: Atheists, Agnostic And Freethinkers Crib by LordReed(m): 10:48pm On Jan 10, 2021 |
gensteejay: I don't know, maybe we gain more insight into Islam? |
Re: Atheists, Agnostic And Freethinkers Crib by Nobody: 11:00pm On Jan 10, 2021 |
LordReed:Slavery is not my favorite subject to discuss (Muslims call themselves slaves of Allah as Qur'an commands). |
Re: Atheists, Agnostic And Freethinkers Crib by LordReed(m): 11:01pm On Jan 10, 2021 |
gensteejay: LoL! |
Re: Atheists, Agnostic And Freethinkers Crib by Nobody: 11:02pm On Jan 10, 2021 |
LordReed:Maybe he is referring to how some poor people give offerings and tithes in the name of religion thereby staying poor. Or how religion causes differences among people which causes them to attack or despise or detest or maltreat one another. |
Re: Atheists, Agnostic And Freethinkers Crib by Nobody: 11:26pm On Jan 10, 2021 |
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Re: Atheists, Agnostic And Freethinkers Crib by DeusXmachina: 12:30am On Jan 11, 2021 |
gensteejay: Back when I'd call myself a believer, I'd always replace the word slave with servant, because it made me uncomfortable. Lol.. Not like it made a difference. |
Re: Atheists, Agnostic And Freethinkers Crib by hakeem4(m): 7:20am On Jan 11, 2021 |
LordReed:No! Love isn’t evil. Love is a feeling, while religion is faith based. Love does not have any doctrine, religion has both doctrines and dogmas. That’s why no sensible person can say “atheism” is the cause of most pogrom, because it doesn’t have any tenets or dogmatic doctrine. I don’t need to give you examples of evils caused by religion in Nigeria. I can give you more example The belfast riot, 9/11, ustache massacre. I can go on if you want me to. In love there is no authority (by authority I mean someone who gives command to those in love). In religion we have authorities such as imam, pope, pastor etc and these people can give commands to cause evil and mayhem based on their doctrines |
Re: Atheists, Agnostic And Freethinkers Crib by Dollywood(m): 8:13am On Jan 11, 2021 |
LordReed: You surely know how to retreat. |
Re: Atheists, Agnostic And Freethinkers Crib by LordReed(m): 8:16am On Jan 11, 2021 |
Dollywood: You are funny. What am I retreating from? |
Re: Atheists, Agnostic And Freethinkers Crib by LordReed(m): 8:18am On Jan 11, 2021 |
hakeem4: Who gave orders to the military to shoot protesters? An authority. Does that make the military evil? |
Re: Atheists, Agnostic And Freethinkers Crib by Dollywood(m): 8:38am On Jan 11, 2021 |
LordReed: We condemn religion because it does not bring any merits but only demerits, the religion be thought will bring peace and love, brought hatred and crime, look at Nigeria and other countries with at 70% of the population are religious, you will notice the high crime rate, and the criminals are either a Christian or a Muslim, look at Norway and China, for instance, they don't practice any religion but look how peaceful and progressive their country is. We don't need to know what is wrong and right, and religion ain't the gateway to success either, but these Nigerians make it seem like if you're not religious you will either die by some sort of spiritual attack or something. Religion doesn't even bring development to the country all you see are grown-ass men praying and wishing for their imaginary friend or angel to fix the problem of their country. Religious people are mentality enslaved and trapped with fear, especially those Jargons I hear at Church and fake miracles when they preach about "Spiritual husband and wife, demons and witchcraft, curses from my father or mother house" all those bullcrap will be used as their prayer point in churches, the average Christian will be scared to death if he forfeits or renounces his belief thinking those spiritual attack will hunt him down and kill him because he longer has the imaginary friend as his lord and savior anymore. Everything is false, fake, illusional, there's nothing like witchcrafts or demons. |
Re: Atheists, Agnostic And Freethinkers Crib by Dollywood(m): 8:40am On Jan 11, 2021 |
gensteejay: Your location matters bro, since you know you live in an environment where people are intolerant and vicious, it is better you don't disclose your belief to anyone of them. Especially when you live in the northern part or at the South-South. |
Re: Atheists, Agnostic And Freethinkers Crib by Dollywood(m): 8:44am On Jan 11, 2021 |
LordReed: From my question, "what good has religion generated for humanity" But you're telling us not to toss out the merits of religion and focus on the demerits. Now I am asking you what merit has religion brought to Humanity compared to the ones science has done and will continue doing. |
Re: Atheists, Agnostic And Freethinkers Crib by Dollywood(m): 8:47am On Jan 11, 2021 |
LordReed: This is how most people who try to sound intelligent on nairaland reply a counter-attack retort instead of admitting the validity or at least say something back. |
Re: Atheists, Agnostic And Freethinkers Crib by LordReed(m): 8:50am On Jan 11, 2021 |
Dollywood: You are committing a fallacy of composition. That some people practice their religion in such ways that are evil or bad doesn't mean all people who practise religion are similar. Have you ever heard of Jains? If you haven't you should look them up. Jain extremists won't even kill an ant, how does that make them evil? What of Buddhists, do you think Buddhists are evil because of what they believe and practice? |
Re: Atheists, Agnostic And Freethinkers Crib by LordReed(m): 8:54am On Jan 11, 2021 |
Dollywood: Dollywood: What part of I am not religious has you stumped? You falsely assume I am out to defend religion when instead I am asking you to think of the things you are saying. If you can't comprehend that from my posts then you need to read them again and again until you do. |
Re: Atheists, Agnostic And Freethinkers Crib by LordReed(m): 9:28am On Jan 11, 2021 |
HellVictorinho: Do you agree that Hitler was evil? If you do can you list out what parameters you used to consider him evil? |
Re: Atheists, Agnostic And Freethinkers Crib by Hermes119: 11:08am On Jan 11, 2021 |
Dollywood:To add to that if you are rich or successful no one cares if u are an atheist or not,even pastors would dine with u But for an average Nigerian sometimes you need religion to socialize,depending on the environment |
Re: Atheists, Agnostic And Freethinkers Crib by Image123(m): 1:53pm On Jan 11, 2021 |
LordReed: your new members don't know these old old people, they're on another wavelength. |
Re: Atheists, Agnostic And Freethinkers Crib by Nobody: 2:02pm On Jan 11, 2021 |
LordReed:How is this related to the matter |
Re: Atheists, Agnostic And Freethinkers Crib by hakeem4(m): 3:15pm On Jan 11, 2021 |
LordReed:well, the duty of the military is for them to protect the sovereignty of the nation. In my humble opinion what they did was evil, but the law recognises them. But religion is not recognised by the law. The duty of religion is just to bring people together and follow a particular doctrine. I’m not saying all religion is totally I’m just saying it’s the cause of most evil and wars in the world |
Re: Atheists, Agnostic And Freethinkers Crib by LordReed(m): 3:41pm On Jan 11, 2021 |
hakeem4: Religion is recognised by the law or else why would they be given tax exempt status? Most of the wars? How many wars in human history have been about religion? |
Re: Atheists, Agnostic And Freethinkers Crib by LordReed(m): 3:42pm On Jan 11, 2021 |
HellVictorinho: Indulge me and I will show you. |
Re: Atheists, Agnostic And Freethinkers Crib by Nobody: 3:44pm On Jan 11, 2021 |
LordReed:I don't have anything to say about Hitler. |
Re: Atheists, Agnostic And Freethinkers Crib by Nobody: 3:46pm On Jan 11, 2021 |
LordReed:But divisions have been associated with religion. |
Re: Atheists, Agnostic And Freethinkers Crib by LordReed(m): 3:49pm On Jan 11, 2021 |
HellVictorinho: Really? That's interesting. As in, you have not thought about the subject or you just don't want to share your thoughts? |
Re: Atheists, Agnostic And Freethinkers Crib by LordReed(m): 3:50pm On Jan 11, 2021 |
HellVictorinho: Land, water and other resources continue to cause divisions till tomorrow. |
Re: Atheists, Agnostic And Freethinkers Crib by Nobody: 4:07pm On Jan 11, 2021 |
LordReed:Hmmmmm, So, you're saying religion can be compared to other things. But I think your comparisons should stop. Focus on religion!!!! In fact,religion should be considered as unnecessary because those Gods can't exist. But it's obvious that being a religious leader can be very profitable considering the number of people that believe in offerings,tithes,XYZ seeds,etc.. The so-called charity done by religious leaders don't take people out of poverty, completely. So, you should also stop asking what the merits of religion are because there's nothing about it that can favour everyone. Miracles don't really happen or/and there's no God that cares about anyone. |
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