Priam:


Chimamanda says hi

ImaIma1:


At one point or the other, people should be vocal about how they feel or what they think instead of suffering in silence. If they are ladies, they don't need to be feminists to do so.

And if one cannot fulfil the requirements to make a marriage work because of some beliefs, movement or principles, they should boycott it altogether.

Lol...there are people from all walks of life, with different value systems and religions that are in marriages that work just for them.

There are feminists who are married -- a decision that most people still consider void. I mean, I don't get how being a feminist should rule out that or singleness. If they get married to someone like themselves, where's the clash over principles going to come from? If a feminist stays long in a marriage, which requires work, people will say, 'Look at her. A feminist putting in efforts in her marriage.' As if they are supposed to be mutually exclusive or that makes her an hypocrite? If she opts out, that'd still be used against her. If she gives birth, they are like, 'so you like motherhood abi.' If she doesn't, wahala.

Feminists do not cease to be humans because they talk about equality.

Magnoliaa:


Of course. Not everybody will be feminist - which is a valid identity for some.



Lol...there are people from all walks of life, with different value systems and religions that are in marriages that work just for them.

There are feminists who are married -- a decision that most people still consider void. I mean, I don't get how being a feminist should rule out that or singleness. If they get married to someone like themselves, where's the clash over principles going to come from? If a feminist stays long in a marriage, which requires work, people will say, 'Look at her. A feminist putting in efforts in her marriage.' As if they are supposed to be mutually exclusive or that makes her an hypocrite? If she opts out, that'd still be used against her. If she gives birth, they are like, 'so you like motherhood abi.' If she doesn't, wahala.

Feminists do not cease to be humans because they talk about equality.

ImaIma1:
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Magnoliaa:
Mtcheew.

Magnoliaa:


Of course. Not everyone will be a feminist - which is a valid identity for some.



Lol...there are people from all walks of life, with different value systems and religions that are in marriages that work just for them.

There are feminists who are married -- a decision that most people still consider void. I mean, I don't get how being a feminist should rule out that or singleness. If they get married to someone like themselves, where's the clash over principles going to come from? If a feminist stays long in a marriage, which requires work, people will say, 'Look at her. A feminist putting in efforts in her marriage.' As if they are supposed to be mutually exclusive or that makes her an hypocrite? If she opts out, that'd still be used against her. If she gives birth, they are like, 'so you like motherhood abi.' If she doesn't, wahala.

Feminists do not cease to be humans because they talk about equality.

ImaIma1:


They usually forget the other part of that verse that says they should love their wives but are quick to preach submission to their benefit.

ImaIma1:


The bible already preaches love all through...love thy neighbour as thyself.

But these verses we are discussing were particularly for husband and wife for a good marriage. We are already supposed to have love in us to give. But the emphasis is for marriage. Men to love and women to submit. To be the head, it is easy to try to bully and lord over those you are head over, so love is emphasized.

And also, being a joint heir with Christ and a human being with emotions and a willpower like the man, it is not easy to submit, so there is also emphasis on that for the woman.

So before a man shouts "submit", is he loving?

Mummyfour:
infact I can't shout. That is how one nairalander was trying to preach rubbish to me here, I just tell am say I no get power for war of words.
Seriously what women go through to keep their homes, and what men in the guise of submission put their women through ehh!! Na God go judge them las las

ImaIma1:


It's almost impossible for a lady to be a feminist in a Nigerian marriage with all our culture, practices and way of life. They have to compromise their principles to make it work. There is no way she will bring all that feminism principles into her marriage and expect it to go well.

BLOODYSPERM:


My point is that Feminist want equality in marriage 50-50 will that make submission feasible since love and submission can be rationalized and negotiated rather than it coming natural from the heart

From your points it seems you are not a feminist for you to emphasize scriptures

ImaIma1:


I am more of a realist. I am no feminist. I respect people but I will speak up rather than suffer in silence. Even though my husband is the head, he is also my lover, partner, father and close friend. Creating a balance of all this roles is key

BLOODYSPERM:



I'm a pragmatist
Suffer in silence?
Is it rape, domestic abuse , mental abuse emotional abuse,
Ladies have to be specific

I don't get it , you

ImaIma1:


Being maltreated, withstanding bullying, insults and all sorts of bad treatment in the name of marriage and submission.

Magnoliaa:


Of course. Not everyone will be a feminist - which is a valid identity for some.



Lol...there are people from all walks of life, with different value systems and religions that are in marriages that work just for them.

There are feminists who are married -- a decision that most people still consider void. I mean, I don't get how being a feminist should rule out that or singleness. If they get married to someone like themselves, where's the clash over principles going to come from? If a feminist stays long in a marriage, which requires work, people will say, 'Look at her. A feminist putting in efforts in her marriage.' As if they are supposed to be mutually exclusive or that makes her an hypocrite? If she opts out, that'd still be used against her. If she gives birth, they are like, 'so you like motherhood abi.' If she doesn't, wahala.

Feminists do not cease to be humans because they talk about equality.

BLOODYSPERM:



I'm a pragmatist
Suffer in silence?
Is it rape, domestic abuse , mental abuse emotional abuse,
Ladies have to be specific

I don't get the point suffer in silence where is the survey , scientific data, research, we don't reach conclusion by consensus but rather by objective results

pocohantas:


You will think this should be common sense.

ImaIma1:


Exactly as I said, some women do not speak up to their husbands in the name of submission. They could take all the bad treatment and stay silent. So they suffer in silence.

Magnoliaa:


Of course. Not everyone will be a feminist - which is a valid identity for some.



Lol...there are people from all walks of life, with different value systems and religions that are in marriages that work just for them.

There are feminists who are married -- a decision that most people still consider void. I mean, I don't get how being a feminist should rule out that or singleness. If they get married to someone like themselves, where's the clash over principles going to come from? If a feminist stays long in a marriage, which requires work, people will say, 'Look at her. A feminist putting in efforts in her marriage.' As if they are supposed to be mutually exclusive or that makes her an hypocrite? If she opts out, that'd still be used against her. If she gives birth, they are like, 'so you like motherhood abi.' If she doesn't, wahala.

Feminists do not cease to be humans because they talk about equality.

CHoccolaTE:
Christianity is such a load of crap, deranged control freak men that get orgasm from oppressing women are the only ones that useless religion benefits.

BLOODYSPERM:


Now I know you are emasculated by Femcentrism

I doubt your manliness

Probz:


My manliness is in greater evidence in my day-to-day life than it probably is in yours. Keep throwing tantrums with people who subtly disagree with you.

Probz:


My manliness is in greater evidence in my day-to-day life than it probably is in yours. Keep throwing tantrums with people who subtly disagree with you.

BLOODYSPERM:


Your ignorance of the redpill speak volumes, redpill is an individual philosophy of self improvement and anti Feminism not a social movement like Feminism, we come together on online forums to gain more knowledge and share experience among ourselves on various platforms

We focus on a man's complete wellbeing, enabling him discover his purpose and reach his maximum potential,have a healthy lifestyle and keep fit, make use of logic and temperament in judgement, know how to socialize to improve his game, make him keep focused on his goals, understand the inter-gender dynamics between the sexes

BLOODYSPERM:


Religion is a form of socialization
Feminism is a form of socialization
Atheism is a form of socialization
Egalitarianistic-Equalism is a form of socialization

As long as you are on Earth you will be subjected to one form of socialization

CHoccolaTE:


Any form of socialisation that thrives on oppressing 50% of society will eventually cave in on itself.

BLOODYSPERM:


I agree
The question is why don't they speak up?

BLOODYSPERM:


The question is which gender possess more IQ quotient than the other and is capable of logic and rational thought

The answer is both genders equally have the same cognitive thinking ability

These is the strength of Feminism

But it's weakness is the biological hormones and menstrual period of women which makes them deviate from their IQ and get them emotional , these their natural burden , it doesn't mean they can't think but they have to apply incredible amount of effort to engage in logic without having to be biased or use prejudice

Magnoliaa:


Sighsssssssssss. Okay, underdeveloped X chromosome.

ImaIma1:


They probably have been made to believe that submission means not speaking up to maltreatment or how you feel about issues.

Even on this forum, a guy described women who are vocal to be feminists.

Abeg we will all be fine. What is important is mutual love and respect. It works things out