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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by kingxsamz(m): 5:20pm On Feb 22
Lol, funny question.
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by Godbpraised: 5:22pm On Feb 22
If you have money there go school in Nigeria. If i have my way i would raise my kids first 7 years in the west and the next 11 years in Africa.

kolnel:
whatever rocks your boat
Most of the times, parents send their kids home so they can cope with the stress here.
kids are kids everywhere, its the style of parenting that differs.
while its true that the exposure here is not helpful, I will still choose here over Africa. The education at home is archaic.
The most important is finding time for the kids. But that won't happen when parents work minimum paying jobs and the have to work back to back.
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by The5DME(m): 5:23pm On Feb 22
tommy589:


Most of those Indians and asians have religions that are indigenous to them. And much emphasis is on sacredness of family, culture and respect in those religion.
Respect starts with good morning greetings with stooping. If this basic foundation is lost mostly we won't get a child upbringing right, irrespective of our location. At least there are reasons we bend sometimes when we shake hands
This is wrong.

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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by ekerintee: 5:25pm On Feb 22
I stay in Europe and will Tell you that , a child born in Nigeria is smarter than a child born abroad at the Initial Stage of Life .maybe along the Line ,its Reverse .Most africa Parent especially Nigerians are busy running after Money and dont teach their Kids value ,this Kids tend to follow the Western Kids ,badly influenced .This Kids can call Police for their Patents ,they are spoilt Brat.For busy Parent,the best place to train a child is africa .but Parent WHO have time ,abroad May be Beter .This Kids are taught Western culture in school,they are told they have right to call Police ,you cant shout on them when they are wrong ,they Report you to the authorities.unless a Parent WHO have time to train this Kids .They are bound to be Bad Kids,the Life abroad is hard for Most african Parent who are struggling to survive .You Guys May Not Unserstand how busy some people are working 12 hours or more in a day,going Back Home tired .so Tell me how this Kids wont be Bad .in Nigeria ,any Body can coreect or Help u train a child ,but abroad ,No one .so that is my View








etrange:
I've had this argument several times. Our pride is all we've got going for us as Africans but we should know when to draw the line. You want to send a child to Africa at his formative age knowing fully well that that's exactly when he needs to be enjoying all the western world has to offer? Foundations are laid in secondary schools, don't let your child miss out on that. Americans are known for inventions while Nigerians are known for scamming. Stereotyping is wrong cause we have both good and bad people everywhere but think about it, are kids really better of in a country like this? I don't think. I think a kid that will be good will be good regardless of where he's raised.

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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by profmallor: 5:28pm On Feb 22
When I was in SS2, a black mom in UK sent this young man back to Nigeria to live in church, oh did the dude suffer. Even we pitied him. He came in pampered and spoilt, but after almost 6 months had not only adapted, but had become a prayer warrior. I learnt things went way better for him upon is return to the UK. I believe challenges and suffering helps shape men's perspective to appreciate live better.
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by crackhaus: 5:29pm On Feb 22
WoundedLamb:

So would you send your kids to Africa like my friend plans to do?
Absolutely not.

And it's not because I consider the African system of raising kids to be archaic (quite the opposite), but simply because I won't need to.

WoundedLamb:

But these aside, what's your take on sending kids home at thier teenage age? Does it really make them better?
Honestly, I do not believe it does.

As a matter of fact and from personal experiences so far, the culture shock which most of these returned kids experience, usually pushes them to get involved in worse vices than they would have been involved in if left alone.

If such moves should be made at all, I'd rather it be when they are much younger (between age 4 – 13) and certainly not as teenagers.

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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by seyz91(m): 5:31pm On Feb 22
for bachelors like me on this forum, got an advice for you

nomatter what you do, make sure you give birth or raise your unborn kids in Western World

i repeat "make sure"
WoundedLamb:
An African friend always argue that kids are better of raised in Africa. He said he'd send his two boys to Nigeria so they'd know what life is all about. I asked him "what life is all about", he said hardship, blackouts, etc. He said kids raised in the Americas aren't respectful and organized cause they didn't suffer. And that brings me to the topic of this thread. Is the Nigerian style of raising kids really the ideal model? I just want to share my opinion on the things my friend mentioned as reasons to send his boys to Africa: respectful and organized and the need to "suffer small" (his words).

Respectful: In the Nigerian society, elders don't usually explain to kids why they shouldn't do some things; they just authoritatively ask them not to do it and the kids better not ask why. Kids grow up respecting thier elders out of fear (and not admiration or love). The implication of this is that they do a lot things without their patents' knowledge, and they get used to this "hidden lifestyle" that makes it almost impossible for parents to truly know thier children. This in turn denies the parents the opportunity to identify and correct some unwanted behaviours as the kids always tell them just what they want to hear. And then it's only a matter of time before some of these kids outgrow the fear and reveal their true personalities (good luck with your mystery parcel at this point). Whereas in the Americas, kids are engaged and not commanded. You can easily tell the direction your child is headed.

Organized: He said kids raised in Africa are more organized and not crazy like their American counterparts who do all sorts of things like tattoos, plastic surgery, etc. Yes, Americans have a lot of deviants, but that's why new ideas/findings pop up everyday. I believe Africans force thier youngsters to fit into a predefined pattern of life and thereby reducing the chances of creativity. In Africa, you are supposed to go to school, get a job, get married and make children (and there are ages for all these). Then your children will do the same and the cycle continues. This "organised" pattern is the African dream; it is more important than any other dream or even the world itself, and any deviation is frowned upon. Africans think it's a crazy for a man to dedicate his life to studying mosquitoes even if that's his dream (yet Africans are the most affected by these killer insects), Africans think it's crazy for a woman to say she ain't getting married but would rather use her money to adopt and raise orphaned kids. A friend I was teaching software development had to quit cause "he didn't have time anymore". According to him, he had gotten to the age of marriage. And you wonder why nothing spectacular comes out of this continent? Alternative lifestyles might be scary but that's the wheel of progress.

"Suffer small": This one makes me laugh and I usually use it to tease my friend. Kids don't need to suffer small. Kids need the skills that would make them survive in their environment. If carrying water, fighting for a bus, using candles and going to the farm equip the child for the African life, great (just don't overdo it). But that's not necessarily a model. It's something they do out of necessity. A kid who is born in North America does not need to go to Africa to "suffer small". I don't even own a bucket as an adult and I'll probably never buy one. A kid born here needs DIY skills amongst others.

I don't have a problem with some people wanting their kids to go to Africa to learn thier culture but I don't subscribe to the idea that kids raised in Africa are better off. What do you think?

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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by theFilmtric: 5:32pm On Feb 22
crackhaus:

Amazing, isn't it?

You'll see a 10year old son/daughter of first generation Chinese, French, Japanese, Thai, or Indian immigrants, speaking their local dialect so fluently... While their 10yr old Nigerian counterparts can't make a complete sentence in Yoruba, Igbo, or Bini, without reverting to English.

And who is to blame for this?
The same immigrant parents who end up complaining of course. Most have the mentality that anything of Nigerian origin is below par and of no significance, so they end up raising children who have been stripped of all cultural, religious, and indigenous values.

The consequence of the above is that it leaves a vacuum in these children, and makes it easy for them to assimilate what we love to call "western" behaviour.
its all the question of official language
Assuming Nigeria was a 2,3,4 language country
It would be the same
Nigeria is just too diverse
That causes us to lean too heavily on English
Those I cancelled have their language as their official language
While India has just 23 languages
Nigeria has 543 only 250 are recognized


theFilmtricsay

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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by Kayberg: 5:32pm On Feb 22
thebosstrevor1:


What sort of mentality is this.

Parents, the church, teachers and the environment all have a role to play in a child's life.

Children do not train themselves, they imitate what they see, if a parent is bad, they imitate that and that will become their reality.

If you don't understand, don't quote me again.
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by Aboguede(m): 5:33pm On Feb 22
All this are baseless arguments


How can a devil make an angel?

The only thing that makes children misbehave are their parents!

How can idiots raise good children?



WoundedLamb:




You may have some point given the fact that Asians don't usually think about sending thier kids home except when the family wants to travel. On the other hand, that could also be because Asians have much elaborate communities in the western world than Africans do. You can hardly see a big city without it's own China town. I heard even Lagos has one. There are many Asian schools where their languages are used.

But these aside, what's your take on sending kids home at thier teenage age? Does it really make them better?

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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by ekerintee: 5:37pm On Feb 22
Do you Know this Kids are taught about Sex even from 4 years ,they start having Sex at 11.they are taught that nothing wrong in homosexual and lesbians.They are taught ,they have right to decide their Religion,they are taught they have right to call Police .i feel sorry for people who hate their country and call IT a Zoo.do you Know that this Kids are discrimanated in some countries in europe .They are Not given opportunities to grow and become useful to society .do you Know this Kids start Smoking at early age ,do u Know they Take drugs.i laff when i See some Post ,for someone WHO dont have time to train His Kids ,africa is best place .do you think there is No suffering abroad,do you Know how people survive abroad.keep believing the Fake Story you See online.do you think the Western world Like Blacks ,they only pretend to Like you ,Most will Tell you to Go Back to Ur country.if there is in insurection against the black tomoro abroad and all asked to Go Back to their country,the only place you can Go is the place you called zoo.may God forgive you







floss:
Only those that grew up in the west and also in Africa will know better, but you can't tell me raising up your kids in Zoogeria is a good thing. Reject that OP, for your own good. Zoogeria is hell on earth.

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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by Burruchaga71(m): 5:39pm On Feb 22
Africa is the best place to raise a child but not South Africa... My kids will relocate to Nigeria after their primary educations

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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by bolayei: 5:39pm On Feb 22
A lot of intellectual post on the front page...

I personally will not bring/allow my children go to Nigeria until they are adults.

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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by quickly: 5:40pm On Feb 22
WoundedLamb:
An African friend always argue that kids are better of raised in Africa. He said he'd send his two boys to Nigeria so they'd know what life is all about. I asked him "what life is all about", he said hardship, blackouts, etc. He said kids raised in the Americas aren't respectful and organized cause they didn't suffer. And that brings me to the topic of this thread. Is the Nigerian style of raising kids really the ideal model? I just want to share my opinion on the things my friend mentioned as reasons to send his boys to Africa: respectful and organized and the need to "suffer small" (his words).

Respectful: In the Nigerian society, elders don't usually explain to kids why they shouldn't do some things; they just authoritatively ask them not to do it and the kids better not ask why. Kids grow up respecting thier elders out of fear (and not admiration or love). The implication of this is that they do a lot things without their patents' knowledge, and they get used to this "hidden lifestyle" that makes it almost impossible for parents to truly know thier children. This in turn denies the parents the opportunity to identify and correct some unwanted behaviours as the kids always tell them just what they want to hear. And then it's only a matter of time before some of these kids outgrow the fear and reveal their true personalities (good luck with your mystery parcel at this point). Whereas in the Americas, kids are engaged and not commanded. You can easily tell the direction your child is headed.

Organized: He said kids raised in Africa are more organized and not crazy like their American counterparts who do all sorts of things like tattoos, plastic surgery, etc. Yes, Americans have a lot of deviants, but that's why new ideas/findings pop up everyday. I believe Africans force thier youngsters to fit into a predefined pattern of life and thereby reducing the chances of creativity. In Africa, you are supposed to go to school, get a job, get married and make children (and there are ages for all these). Then your children will do the same and the cycle continues. This "organised" pattern is the African dream; it is more important than any other dream or even the world itself, and any deviation is frowned upon. Africans think it's a crazy for a man to dedicate his life to studying mosquitoes even if that's his dream (yet Africans are the most affected by these killer insects), Africans think it's crazy for a woman to say she ain't getting married but would rather use her money to adopt and raise orphaned kids. A friend I was teaching software development had to quit cause "he didn't have time anymore". According to him, he had gotten to the age of marriage. And you wonder why nothing spectacular comes out of this continent? Alternative lifestyles might be scary but that's the wheel of progress.

"Suffer small": This one makes me laugh and I usually use it to tease my friend. Kids don't need to suffer small. Kids need the skills that would make them survive in their environment. If carrying water, fighting for a bus, using candles and going to the farm equip the child for the African life, great (just don't overdo it). But that's not necessarily a model. It's something they do out of necessity. A kid who is born in North America does not need to go to Africa to "suffer small". I don't even own a bucket as an adult and I'll probably never buy one. A kid born here needs DIY skills amongst others.

I don't have a problem with some people wanting their kids to go to Africa to learn thier culture but I don't subscribe to the idea that kids raised in Africa are better off. What do you think?

tribal mark or tatto which is worst.

AFricans have always had body markings. my great grand mother had her name tattooed on her body and also some other things.

Tatto has been around fo long

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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by manmustwac(m): 5:43pm On Feb 22
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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by cococandy(f): 5:43pm On Feb 22
Thanks for checking him with facts

WoundedLamb:


I appreciate this input but I don't really think Nigerian men are "suffering" in the hands of thier women abroad. At least, non of my friends is. No woman really wants her husband to suffer. Anybody that leaves out here can tell you both men and women must work hard to sustain the family. It is not very practical to expect the man to pay all the bills considering the income/expense structure. Likewise, it's unfair to expect a woman who works the number of hours you work to always do the cooking, serve you, do the laundry, clean the house, prepare the kids for school, etc. like they're expected to do in Africa. Everybody has to adjust. Problem arises when one party refuses to adjust. In addition, both spouses have equal rights to the house and no one has the right to kick the other out without a court order. And to obtain a court order, you'd have to prove the other partner is abusive or constitute a threat. So anyone "kicked out" was either abusive or just decided to give the other some space.

Despite everything you've heard, except in child custody cases, the legal system in the US/Canada isn't necessarily structured to favour women. It only tries to give both genders equal footing. I said 'try' cause in reality, only the legal systems in Belgium, Denmark, France, Latvia, Luxembourg and Sweden claim absolute equality today. Women are better off today that they were yesterday but still very far from being equal to men. For someone from Africa, it's understandable how any legal system that advocates for equality would appear as if it's in favour of women considering the African culture. But marriage works like friendship here, they can last forever without the dom/sub relationship and at the same time, anyone can pull out anytime.

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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by McLizbae: 5:46pm On Feb 22
Klass99:


No way! I suspected you were male but my very biased mind thought, only a woman can make such an intelligent comment grin
grin grin grin
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by McLizbae: 5:47pm On Feb 22
No.
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by segvic(m): 5:47pm On Feb 22
KingAzubuike:
The African mentality is so messed up. Why would you want a child to suffer and see hardship before he knows what life is truly about?


Well, I think the word suffer in this contest is been miss use , rather the right word should be discipline, or rigorous learning process. Personally, I think the chances of a child having good moral up bringing is high is africa compare to western countries because the child learn about our culture and other things. The child can be taken out of the country during vacation for more exposure. No one want his or her child to suffer.

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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by ekerintee: 5:49pm On Feb 22
IT shud be the Reverse ,the First seven years is when they brain wash them abroad .so you better Reverse ,First 7 years in africa If you are a busy Parent abroad ,but If you have time .its OK to train them at home.if you Know what they teach them in school ,u will weep.unless you have time to retrain them at Home ,this Kids will become Thorn in flesh.they can wake Up to Tell you ,there is No God ,they can wake Up to Tell you that they discover they are meant to be gay .you have No choice to Respekt what they say If you dont want Police wahala .so its good ,u Beter brainwashed them with good Things at early age than at an age when they are already indoctrinated with Western Ideas and they start thinking of calling Police for u




Godbpraised:
If you have money there go school in Nigeria. If i have my way i would raise my kids first 7 years in the west and the next 11 years in Africa.

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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by crackhaus: 5:51pm On Feb 22
theFilmtric:

its all the question of official language
Assuming Nigeria was a 2,3,4 language country
It would be the same
Nigeria is just too diverse
That causes us to lean too heavily on English
Those I cancelled have their language as their official language
While India has just 23 languages
Nigeria has 543 only 250 are recognized


theFilmtricsay
Can you speak your indigenous language (that particular 1 out of the 543)?
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by emzynuel1: 5:53pm On Feb 22
WoundedLamb:


Hhmm... is this really a factor? Islam may not be originally African but I don't think a Nigerian child born into Islam and and an Indian Child born into Hinduism are any different in terms of how they perceive their religion. I mean, the muslim child doesn't get less indoctrinated because the religion didn't originate from his place. Just thinking
Religion is not important
Whatever the child values are is more important

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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by emzynuel1: 5:54pm On Feb 22
tommy589:


Most of those Indians and asians have religions that are indigenous to them. And much emphasis is on sacredness of family, culture and respect in those religion.
Respect starts with good morning greetings with stooping. If this basic foundation is lost mostly we won't get a child upbringing right, irrespective of our location. At least there are reasons we bend sometimes when we shake hands
Exactly ���
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by emzynuel1: 5:56pm On Feb 22
Mikester:
From my perspective, I will say it depends on the parents raising the child and not necessarily the environment, though the environment is also an undisputed factor in a child's upbringing, but the parental factor determines the outcome of the child more.

Speaking of environment, Nigeria was once a good ground for a child's moral upbringing as it unapologetically shunned deviant behaviours till it imitated the negative lifestyle of the west which I dare say is decadent (showing more interest in pleasure and enjoyment than moral standards).

This singular act brought about a proliferation of decadence and debauchery amongst the multitudes including the teenagers and children alike.

Children and teens alike learn more by imitation. Teens are dealing with a huge amount of social, emotional and cognitive flux and have underdeveloped abilities to cope. They need their parents, those people with the more stable adult brain to help them by staying calm, listening and being good role models but due to the decadence in the land and nonchalance of most parents, we have the defective children we have now.

These are things we know deep down within us.


Environment before parent abeg
You don't understand
Environment defined the effective of parental training

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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by WoundedLamb: 5:59pm On Feb 22
BigDawsNet:


Well I didn't mention anything like "spoilt" but the only difference from those kids in Lagos and Abuja with the Northamerica is that they are discipline... They are not spoilt like the foreign kids and they don't abuse their parent...no kids in Nigeria will dial 911 ...

they're never disrespectful, they follow the lifestyle of Nigeria and their parents are very happy these kids are growing up in Nigeria because they can learn how to be respectful..

I'm not sure if people still send their kids to Nigeria this days to learn how to be a good kid

I only know of my cousin that sent his son to Nigeria for few months so he can drop in weight grin

Your last paragraph grin

I didn't mean spoilt in that sense though. I meant "posh".

Talking about respect, do you think a grown up Nigerian is more respectful to fellow humans than a grown up Canadian? I would say no (just my opinion). Africans only respect elder or bosses or guardians or anyone superior to them. And that's because respect in Africa is mostly out of fear. Asides from these people they fear, they couldn't care less about others. Whereas a Canadian employer respects everyone including the gateman. That's because respect to them isn't forced, it's generally believed that everyone deserves it. We have deviants but don't let Hollywood deceive you, kids here don't necessarily grow into miscreants.

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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by Nobody: 6:00pm On Feb 22
People like Lawrence Anini,Hushpuppy and other groups grew up in africa and nigeria in particular as kids
The areaboys,weed smokers,agbero all grew up in africa
but look how they ended up
Body tatoos dont determine wether a person will be evil
what of kids who grew up as responsible adults in the west
what can u say about that?
Obama never grew in africa but he made something with his life
Responsible parenting is not an african thing
Any parent weda african or white or asian would want his or her child to walk the right part
but then we have irresponsible parents
they are in nigeria too

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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by Nobody: 6:00pm On Feb 22
WoundedLamb:


Thanks. Any reason for this take?

From my experience, an African upbringing teaches children to feel respect for the community and develop better social values. It also teaches the kids to be resourceful, hardy and ambitious; with their parents' guidance of course. I, along with my brothers and sister were raised abroad, but we spent virtually all our holidays with our no-nonsense grandparents in Nigeria; which is what saved us somewhat. One of my cousins who was not so lucky was killed in a knife fight over drugs, and another was forced to enlist in the military by his father because of his thuggish behaviour. Other cousins have had their issues too.

Added to that is the fact that coloured children abroad tend to have even more issues with discipline than the whites. I would advise any responsible wife to stay back home with her kids and let their father go hustle abroad until he has enough startup money for a business of his choice. He can then come back, establish a business and retire early. It's good to have an occasional trip on holidays though, and I absolutely endorse their being permitted to go and study in a good university when they have already grown and are less influenced by their environment.

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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by Dexterfire: 6:00pm On Feb 22
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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by theFilmtric: 6:01pm On Feb 22
crackhaus:

Can you speak your indigenous language (that particular 1 out of the 543)?
Of course, yes
Why not?


theFilmtricsay
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by SatanicPriest: 6:02pm On Feb 22
Jaqenhghar:


I believe so too. You wont be the first person to say this. Especially that Japan ... korea.... singapore
any asian country that nigerians cant easily enter is ok. malaysia was also ok till nigerians polluted it
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by ABCthingx: 6:04pm On Feb 22
crackhaus:

This.

I believe that as Nigerians, we just love to have it both ways all the time. The same Nigerians who prefer to live a life of unbelief and would rather do away with religions that instill positive values, also turn around to complain that their children are not respectful and well-behaved.

I wonder where these children are supposed to learn good behaviour and morals from when they were not introduced to and made to adhere to any religion that espouses such.
The assumption that just the words and corrections from a parent would be enough to keep a 21st century child in line, is foolhardy.

The real questions should be;
What has a parent taught their child(ren) to believe in?
What higher power do they revere?
Do these children feel obligated to live according to the tenets of this higher power?
xactly. They are having this problem abroad too. They want to the do away with God (the originator of morality) and still have a moral, lawful society at the same time.

Tell me, how can that work?
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by OnlyDeCapPlease(m): 6:05pm On Feb 22
Klass99:


Okay.

@ Topic, I am undecided but something an Arab cabbie in the UK said to a friend has stuck with me.

He said, in all his time of being a cabbie conveying people/families around, he noticed that kids of indians and asians, held on to their cultural values, tend to be respectful and not easily influenced or carried away by the negative aspects of Western culture.

However, when it came to us Africans (he specifically mentioned Nigeria and other African countries) he noticed our kids tend to be disrespectful, eager to embrace the negative aspects of western culture and discard theirs, while the parents seem overwhelmed and at a loss on how best to handle their own kids.

He went on to narrate an interaction between a son and a mother in his cab of Nigerian origins that enraged him and broke his heart at the same time, but he stayed out if it. The boy was being extremely rude to his mother to a point where she became teary and all.

I truly don't know which climate is better for raising kids, but that cabbie's observations was or is food for thought. I like what the person above me (etrange) said particularly in her last sentence

But the Indians in UK don't need to send their kids to India in order for them to be respecful and cultured. They learn it wherever in the world they are. The parents teach by setting example.

I'm sorry but a lot of Nigerian parents behave like children. No self restraint. They always have to show off. Moving from one drama to another, one party to another, yay selfie, learning dance reigning in Nigeria, forming marlian at age 45/50?, must drive mercedes benz, audi or range rover etc because that is what so so and so is driving. Must wear this if not I will feel poor. Consequently they are always working or chasing money. Add to this distractions from having affairs outside marriage that Nigerian couples are slowing getting notorious for, then you are left with kids with no guidance who, if not checked, might end up getting out of control. When this happens, instead of the parents to step back, swallow their pride and engage with the child, they want to fob the child off to Africa for a quick fix of brutality? Jokers.

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