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| Re: Did Enoch and Elijah Really Go To Heaven Without Dying? by johnw47: 9:28pm On Mar 01, 2021 |
paltielx: very very duh one, you are as blinded as false jw mad max, amazing 1 Like |
| Re: Did Enoch and Elijah Really Go To Heaven Without Dying? by johnw47: 9:33pm On Mar 01, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: false jw mad max you falsely teach there is no spiritual death here is another verse showing spiritual death: Luk_9:60 Jesus said unto him, Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God. the verse is not saying "let the physical dead bury their physical dead" oh duh know nothing false jw Jesus is saying "let the spiritually dead bury the physically dead" Jesus also said "go and preach the kingdom of God" however you false jw mad max go and preach lies 2Pe_2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. very dum paltielx, can you see the lie of false jw mad max preaching there is no spiritual death laugh, of course you cannot 1 Like |
| Re: Did Enoch and Elijah Really Go To Heaven Without Dying? by johnw47: 10:02pm On Mar 01, 2021 |
paltielx: very duh paltielx, mad max and his wife trivina said those things i just post them again to remind all of the goings on of satans mob and of course you stick up for false jw's perversions and stick up for their lies, if you not false jw you should become one oh son of the devil: Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. there is no fool like a people pleasing fool 1 Like |
| Re: Did Enoch and Elijah Really Go To Heaven Without Dying? by johnw47: 10:10pm On Mar 01, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: oh duh confused false jw mad max u cannot see that confused paltielx doesn't know who he is posting to half the time 1Co_14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. you two blinded ones are birds of a feather 2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. 1 Like |
| Re: Did Enoch and Elijah Really Go To Heaven Without Dying? by Janosky: 11:37pm On Mar 01, 2021 |
Righteousness2: Bros, go and delete John 3:13 from your Bible and write your own gospel into that verse. Do you know what goes on in heaven more than Jesus Christ? |
| Re: Did Enoch and Elijah Really Go To Heaven Without Dying? by Righteousness2(m): 11:56pm On Mar 01, 2021 |
Janosky: I weep for your Soul Mercy O LORD 1 Like |
| Re: Did Enoch and Elijah Really Go To Heaven Without Dying? by Janosky: 12:24am On Mar 02, 2021 |
johnw47:You fornicate and contract HIV & the disease kills you, is that spiritual death ? Adam & Eve them steal fruit from the forbidden tree, Genesis 2:17, 3:16-19 na them reward. Genesis 2:17, 3:16-19, is Romans 6:23a. Jehovah's punishment on Adam was a slow and painful process of hardship leading to Adam's death. Genesis 3:22-24, why did Jehovah drive Adam away from eating of the tree of life and live forever ?   Genesis 3:22-24 , WIPE OUT Your Adam "spiritual death" GIBBERISH. |
| Re: Did Enoch and Elijah Really Go To Heaven Without Dying? by Janosky: 12:30am On Mar 02, 2021 |
Righteousness2:Answer this simple question & tell this forum: John 3:13, Do you "Righteousness2" know what goes on in heaven more than Jesus Christ? Bros, Continue to WEEP for your own mumu 1 Like |
| Re: Did Enoch and Elijah Really Go To Heaven Without Dying? by Righteousness2(m): 12:40am On Mar 02, 2021 |
Janosky: If you honest with yourself and u wanna get an understanding of a Passage in the Bible u read from the beginning of the verse. JESUS Christ was simply telling Nicodemus that HE Alone is the access and way to Heaven. No one can make Heaven without HIM You can Pick any part and quote whatever you wanna quote to suit yourself but u will Deceive and Destroy yourself. A Day is Coming where you will know what u did to yourself all this years. Then u will wish to turn back the clock but alas it is too Late.. 1 Like |
| Re: Did Enoch and Elijah Really Go To Heaven Without Dying? by johnw47: 1:35am On Mar 02, 2021 |
Janosky: Ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool know nothing and very confused false jw janosky truly spiritual death is a reality: Luk_9:60 Jesus said unto him, Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God. 1Jn_3:14 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death. Rev 3:1 To the angel of the church in Sardis write: These are the words of him who holds the seven spirits of God and the seven stars. I know your deeds; you have a reputation of being alive, but you are dead more scriptures than that, u want to see some oh dum dum lying fraud janosky, u heap big mumu fool too Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 1Co_14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. scardy false jw, u can run away again now: Rev_21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. 1 Like |
| Re: Did Enoch and Elijah Really Go To Heaven Without Dying? by johnw47: 2:06am On Mar 02, 2021 |
Janosky: Ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. know nothing false jw janosky, the day adam ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil he did surely spiritually die that day, he didn't die physically that day oh wouldn't know what day it is janosky Gen 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. Gen 3:17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; Gen 3:18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field; Gen 3:19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return. most dum mumu brain, adam and eve disobeyed God/sinned/died spiritually, so God multiplied eve's sorrow in conception and God cursed the ground that adam must now live off oh duh false jw, u so dum dum Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. most duh janosky, sin causes spiritual and physical death if one doesn't repent, u such a dim wit Gen 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: Gen 3:23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken. Gen 3:24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life. know nothing false jw janosky adam disobeyed God/sinned/died spiritually so god drove him away from the garden and the tree of life, oh duh confused know nothing false jw janosky 1Co_14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. 2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 1 Like |
| Re: Did Enoch and Elijah Really Go To Heaven Without Dying? by johnw47: 2:30am On Mar 02, 2021 |
Janosky: fraud jw janosky i know that because perverted false jw mad max is losing his false doctrine arguments you have to jump in and try and help the lies to continue but fella u gotta be able to do better than that, smile Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. Ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool 1 Like |
| Re: Did Enoch and Elijah Really Go To Heaven Without Dying? by johnw47: 3:02am On Mar 02, 2021 |
Janosky: oh most duh mumu brain janosky fornicating causes spiritual death, hiv if it kills you is physical death, big smile Janosky: truly know nothing, when adam sinned he surely died spiritually that day, big big smile Ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool 1Co_14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. 2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 1 Like |
| Re: Did Enoch and Elijah Really Go To Heaven Without Dying? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:38am On Mar 02, 2021 |
Stop the emotional blackmail and face the TRUTH, there is no need for unnecessary dodging of facts. If you've got something worthwhile to say go ahead there's no church rat that could be won out of emotions here! Righteousness2: |
| Re: Did Enoch and Elijah Really Go To Heaven Without Dying? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:51am On Mar 02, 2021 |
Well do you believe what you read? Jesus foresaw this and spoke of it {Matthew 13:25} during those dark ages Satan, his demons and their human agents fabricated a lot of things and that's what led the churches off course! Jesus returned in 1914 (invisibly) to rearrange his followers for the end time works, all the churches are no more practicing Christianity as Jesus commissioned it {Luke 18:8} but a small group of people were constantly meeting to find out where the churches got it wrongly, that was the group led by one American known as Charles Taze Russell, Jesus began dealing with this group as they are ever willing to make adjustments. After five good years of intensive training this unseen mighty spirit being directed them to start preaching and teaching globally and that's what you're seeing today. The preaching and teaching from house to house and door to door began in the year 1919 and it was Covid19 that stopped Jehovah's Witnesses from going to meet people in their homes. At first it seems as if we don't know what's happening but do you know that 2019 marks the hundred years that program kicked off?  Well let those who have ears listen! paltielx: |
| Re: Did Enoch and Elijah Really Go To Heaven Without Dying? by johnw47: 5:17am On Mar 02, 2021 |
false jw janosky you false jw's don't post the scriptures you give book chapter and verse for because they don't of course support the lies that you say u such frauds, aren't you pea brain Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. |
| Re: Did Enoch and Elijah Really Go To Heaven Without Dying? by Rossnitti: 6:00am On Mar 02, 2021 |
Blackmoran: It's colonial brainwashing. Sad. |
| Re: Did Enoch and Elijah Really Go To Heaven Without Dying? by Rossnitti: 6:04am On Mar 02, 2021 |
Blackmoran: Err... Yes actually. The oldest images of Buddha, Krishna and other Asian deities are of blacks. Google images: ''black Madonna'' You will see a plethora of black Mary and Jesus images as they were originally depicted across Europe, before the 1800s when they began to mysteriously 'whiten' their history. |
| Re: Did Enoch and Elijah Really Go To Heaven Without Dying? by Righteousness2(m): 7:57am On Mar 02, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Young man! Repent oooo! The Path you are on is the Path of Folly and it ends in Destruction. Repent and Surrender to JESUS and cease from all these Nonsense you do here. I don't engage in foolish questions, Contentions and strivings about GOD'S WORD. But I Tell u what is Needful! The Salvation of your Soul is Needful ! Very Needful |
| Re: Did Enoch and Elijah Really Go To Heaven Without Dying? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:22am On Mar 02, 2021 |
Your Jesus differs from my Jesus! Righteousness2: |
| Re: Did Enoch and Elijah Really Go To Heaven Without Dying? by Janosky: 9:08am On Mar 02, 2021 |
Righteousness2: John 3:12-13 …12If I have told you about earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you about heavenly things? 13 No one has ascended into heaven except the One who descended from heaven— the Son of Man. At that time Jesus Christ simply told Nicodemus, "No one has ascended into heaven except Jesus who descended from heaven" Bros, you can't change nor TWIST verses 12 & 13 of John chapter 3. Jesus statement "No one " means Enoch & Moses did not ascend to heaven. . You have refused to answer this question. John 3:13, Do you "Righteousness2" know what goes on in heaven more than Jesus Christ? Bros, Please enjoy your DELUSION |
| Re: Did Enoch and Elijah Really Go To Heaven Without Dying? by Janosky: 9:12am On Mar 02, 2021 |
Righteousness2: You have refused to answer this question: John 3:13, Do you "Righteousness2" know what goes on in heaven more than Jesus Christ? Anyone who dodge this question is on the path of folly & self serving deceit. The question is "foolish" so you can jejely enjoy your DELUSION . Issorait ! |
| Re: Did Enoch and Elijah Really Go To Heaven Without Dying? by Janosky: 9:32am On Mar 02, 2021 |
johnw47: How will Adam dies "spiritual death" GIBBERISH fulfill Genesis 2:17 when he eats the fruit of life (@ Genesis 3:22-24)& lives eternal life forever? Bros, your mumu done do. Adam eats the tree of life in Genesis 3:22-24 & lives forever ,is "spiritual death" the punishment of Genesis2:17? Genesis 3:19 did Adam die " spiritual death" & return to dust? JohnW & SENSE na mutual divorce. |
| Re: Did Enoch and Elijah Really Go To Heaven Without Dying? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:35am On Mar 02, 2021 |
He thought everyone will as foolish as his friends in his Church who only listens to the emotional talks of a brainwashed old woman who can't even read a portion of the Bible yet vehemently preaching HELLFIRE! Janosky: 1 Like |
| Re: Did Enoch and Elijah Really Go To Heaven Without Dying? by paltielx: 10:40am On Mar 02, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:You are very correct, they have not stop preaching and teaching instead the using non contact ways to do it, those people are God sent 2 Likes |
| Re: Did Enoch and Elijah Really Go To Heaven Without Dying? by johnw47: 11:30pm On Mar 02, 2021 |
Janosky: Ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool oh duh know nothing false jw janosky you have no understanding of the scriptres at all spiritual death does not have to be forever, have you heard of repentance, oh very big dum dum Eph 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;] ^^ dead in sins = dead spiritually 1Ti 5:6 But she that liveth in pleasure is dead while she liveth. ^^ is dead while she liveth = is dead spiritually while she liveth 1Co_14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. 2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. a day is like a thousand years to God and a thousand years is like a day meaning in eternity time is perceived very differently to us on earth when God speaks of a day, he is not speaking of a thousand years, i can find one or two instances in the bible where a day is figuratively referring to a thousand year period/a millennium and when God is speaking of a thousand years He is not speaking of one 24 hour day when God speaks through the prophet of a thousand year reign of Christ He is not speaking of a one day reign of Christ, laugh, you false jw's are so duh you false jw's must also believe in 6 x 1000 year days of creation with God resting a thousand years on the seventh day Gen 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. so according to you false jw's God created day's 1000 years long, it's a thousand years between morning on day one and morning on day two etc. wow times goes quickly, it seems like only 24 hours to me you false jw's are so so dum, aren't you mumu false jw janosky Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. dead false jw janosky, you dead false jw's believe anything your dead elders tell you to believe, don't you fraud |
| Re: Did Enoch and Elijah Really Go To Heaven Without Dying? by johnw47: 11:41pm On Mar 02, 2021 |
paltielx: join them dope, really it's where you belong there is no fool like a people pleasing fool 1Th 4:1 Furthermore then we beseech you, brethren, and exhort you by the Lord Jesus, that as ye have received of us how ye ought to walk and to please God, so ye would abound more and more. |
| Re: Did Enoch and Elijah Really Go To Heaven Without Dying? by Nobody: 12:49am On Mar 03, 2021 |
Word of understanding There are two types of heaven and two types of hell in the Bible 1.Abraham's bossom (the lower heaven or place of comfort) 2 paradise (the dwelling place of the most high God) 1.Hell (a temporary place of torment) 2.lake of fire (a permanent place under construction by God) Back to the argument I believe Enoch and Elijah they ascended into the lower heaven Yes no man ever ascended into the dwelling place of the most high God and that's were Jesus comes from men with mortal flesh can't enter into it Now only after judgement day yes Jesus can not lie and he also give the story of Lazarus which clearly shows that there's a place prepared by God similar to paradise for his people temporary before judgment day and as of those prophets and apostles they all ready have assurance of salvation. But many Christians interpret scripture as if it just a literature textbook here's another confusing passage (the Bible says for it appointed onto man to die once and after death comes judgement) and this is the basic reason why many Christians will come giving fake testimonies like when they had an accident or when they were seriously sick almost dead or when she was in a labour room to give birth and she almost died some of them said an angel and some said it was Jesus that took them and show them heaven and hell and asked them to come back and warn people on earth and they see this pastor and that pope and that sister and small children in hell.But as a Christian all that matters to me now is not about Enoch and Elijah but the assurance of salvation which i received because Jesus has paid off the price at the cross and i will earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saint brethren don't argue with those Jehovah witness who didn't believe that Jesus is the son of God and his death and resurrection. 1 Like |
| Re: Did Enoch and Elijah Really Go To Heaven Without Dying? by johnw47: 1:14am On Mar 03, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: fall for anything your mob tells you false jw sex mad max when Jesus returns all eyes will see Him Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. you false jw's have been preaching your lies for 100 years christians have been preaching Jesus truth's for 2000 years, door to door, in the streets, in the parks, wherever people can be found you so duh mad max, and perverse to, of course: https://www.nairaland.com/6436945/did-enoch-elijah-really-go/3#99508043 |
| Re: Did Enoch and Elijah Really Go To Heaven Without Dying? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:23am On Mar 03, 2021 |
We direct everyone to the same source of sound teaching: Governing Body JEHOVAH chose Jesus and Jesus chose the GB that's just the arrangement but if you feel it's not so then go and pitch your tent anywhere else let people see the good works of your church, that's what Jesus said! Matthew 5:13-16 But it's obvious you have no direction so keep working on your hatred for the good works of God's Holy Spirit those who have ears will listen no matter what you think, say or do! johnw47: |
| Re: Did Enoch and Elijah Really Go To Heaven Without Dying? by Janosky: 10:50am On Mar 03, 2021 |
johnw47: John W FRAUD, you have multiplied your GIBBERISH You MUST tell this forum where & when Adam confessed his repentance to you or your 3 dogheads idols |
| Re: Did Enoch and Elijah Really Go To Heaven Without Dying? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:13pm On Mar 03, 2021 |
Asuredwin:Your PERSONAL opinion on those mentioned which will eventually contradict others who also BELIEVE the Hellfire scam. brethren don't argue with those Jehovah witness who didn't believe that Jesus is the son of God and his death and resurrection.The problem you have but can't see is you have no BRETHREN! you only which you do but in reality once you leave the vicinity where you live you're a total stranger everywhere you go. Unlike true Christians (JWs) who can go to any part of this planet and be received by our JW brethren anywhere on this planet. They will welcome us into their homes once they know we are of the same faith! Mark 10:28-30 Secondly the central teaching of JWs is about the death and resurrection of God's Son (Jesus Christ) so you need a relearn Sir! 1 Like 1 Share |
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