Blakjewelry:
well it's all about perspective, I think anybody would died if he is sure he rise from the dead.

Ignorance....It goes beyond dying and coming back to life.
Show me a King that can leave his throne for 24hrs and live like an ordinary man

It's about relinquishing his status for our sake

richidinho:
Its very funny how Seun will allow idiiots to come to this thread and type rubbish, but every muslim thread is always locked

True talk

There would not have been Christianity.Christianity originated from the resurrection of Christ and it's all about faith, hope, forgiveness, love, kindness, etc.

E for choke oooooo

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Omooba77:


Happy Easter, thank God for Jesus, the whole world would have been in real darkness.

AntiChristian:
Did he resurrect before? So why didn't Israel believe the scam of death and resurrection?

The same reason was Israel punished and rejected. Read Romans 9 and 10. Antichristian, you are not a Bible scholar but an ignorant critic. Oh, I know you don't want to hear the name Paul. Read Deuteronomy 28, read the Prophets from Isaiah to Malachi without any spectacle of bias. You will see the answers therej.

Incognito403:


Once again, you shot yourself in the foot.

Firstly, what's in the shahadah? Isn't it belief that "Muhammad is the slave and messenger of Allaah"?!
How does that mean worship? In fact, it's an evidence against you, if only you'll ponder.

It means you can't mention Allah without mentioning Muhammad.

Allah is muhammad's puppet, scape goat. Allah is the one Muhammad lied against when he commited atrocities like taking over the wife of Zaid his adopted son.

Is it only Muhammad that is the messenger of Allah according to Islam, why can't you insert other messengers' name in your Shahada ?

Secondly, saying lola anobi isn't correct.

Go and say that to your fellow Muslims that pray to Allah lola anobi Muhammad

But that aside, how is saying lola anobi the same as seeking assistance from him?

Because it means you're praying by the virtue of Muhammad

He didn't ask us to send our prayers to him.

You don't know many things about your religion.

Muhammad asked you to send your prayers (salat, your dubious translators changed prayers to blessing ) to him even after he dies and when they challenged him that how will they send prayers to him when he's dead and rotten in the grave, he lied again that prophets of God don't get rotten, which is a lie like many of his numerous lies.

Sunan Abi Dawud 1047
Narrated Aws ibn Aws:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said: Among the most excellent of your days is Friday; on it Adam was created, on it he died, on it the last trumpet will be blown, and on it the shout will be made, so invoke more prayers (alssalaat) on me that day, for your prayers (alssalaat) will be submitted to me. The people asked: Messenger of Allah, how can it be that our prayers (salaatuna) will be submitted to you while your body is decayed? He replied: Allah, the Exalted, has prohibited the earth from consuming the bodies of Prophets..

Yes, because, blasphemy against Allah could be out of excessive emotion when a person finds himself in a bad situation. But blasphemy against the prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم is nothing but a pure hatred for the message he came to deliver.

In short, Muhammad is ranked higher than Allah

No, Allaah doesn't pray for Muhammad. You're obviously ignorant of the meaning of Allaah's "solah upon the prophet". In summary, Allaah's solah upon the messenger means mentioning his virtues amongst the angels.

Solah means prayer, go and learn Arabic.

Are the angels blind that they need Allah to mention the virtues of Muhammad to them? How do you people even reason?

Allah and all the Islamic angels submit and pray to Muhammad your god.

Jesus was called a word from Allah because he was a result of Allaah's word; "be" and he was.

So muhammad was not found worthy of being a word from Allah? Muhammad was not found worthy of being a spirit from Allah.

Muhammad was not found worthy of being said to be distinguished in this world and in the hereafter.


"[And mention] when the angels said, O Mary, indeed Allah gives you good tidings of a word from Him, whose name will be the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary - distinguished in this world and the Hereafter and among those brought near ."
(QS. Aal-i-Imraan 3: Verse 45)



Allah didnt find Muhammad distinguished anywhere in this world, not to talk of in the hereafter.

temiyato:


Did everyone see him when he was born ? If u need to know christ more , pray for it and he will show himself to u.

Mary dt gave birth to him did nt see him.... is it nt someone dt help Mary during labor.... or is Mary dead wen giving birth....

The Only way Jesus would not have
resurrected was if a Large Number of the
People he Preached to when he was alive;
Practiced his teachings.


If those People had seriously put his
teachings into Practice; they would have
transmuted a lot of their Karma; and also
raise the Vibratory action of the earth.


But as it happened majority of the People
only listened to Jesus' Teachings but when
they went to back to their daily life they
continued to Commit Sin; Because it was
already a habit.


So Jesus had to die and Sacrifice Himself
in order to Purify the Earth.
But most importantly through the ressurection he also Proved that all humans
can also gain the Ascension.

ekevwe:


Did the Israelites saw his bones in the grave?

Have you ever considered the fact that Nicodemus and joseph of Arimathea took him away. Remember according to johns gospel, they came bringing a mixture of myrrh and aloes about a hundred pound weight. They might have revived him and smuggled him to india.

Remember it was forbidden to torch a dead body. So my guess(according to the story) is that they took him from the cross and he was in coma and they managed to revive him. Little wonder he did not want mary to torch him, he was still sore...
Sound plausible...dosent it?



Well, ...so many inconsistencies in tge story.

As for me, i know that jesus never existed. Just a badly written fiction.

Ascended Master Jesus is still in the Higher realms along with other Ascended Masters.
They are doing all they can to help humanity Spiritwise.
Ascended Master Jesus is Known for Perfecting certain qualities such as: LOVE, FAITH and MERCY.

To learn more about the Parts Ascended Master Jesus and Mother Mary's life not fully included in the bible visit.
https://iamfree.co.za/s/Life_Teaching_Jesus_Mary.pdf

I will still be engrossed in my errors (sin);womanizing,alcoholism,smoking,wickedness of all sorts etc.

Omooba77:
What if Jesus did not Resurrect? What would have happened to the whole world!

First of all the story of Jesus death and ressurection in the Bible is false. The Gospel of mark was the first gospel written down and it has been discovered that that the story of Jesus Christ death and resurrection in it was not part of the original manuscript of the Gospel of Mark is I personally wonder where the writer of the later Gospel books got there information from that is different from Marks source and what are the names of the authors of the gospel books we have today

Two of the oldest, most respected Bible manuscripts, Codex Sinaiticus and Codex Vaticanus end the Gospel of Mark at 16:8. Yet, the Bible you have ends Mark's Gospel at 16:20. Bible scholars would claim the 12 verses were added by a later scribe.

So if mark gospel which is the first Gospel book was corrupted how can the Later Gospels be trusted?






Secondly, it is believed that Jesus died on Friday but by Sunday morning he was not found in the tomb.
Mark 16

1AND WHEN the Sabbath was past [that is, after the sun had set], Mary Magdalene, and Mary [the mother] of James, and Salome purchased sweet-smelling spices, so that they might go and anoint [Jesus' body].

2 And very early on the first day of the week they came to the tomb; [by then] the sun had risen.

3 And they said to one another, Who will roll back the stone for us out of [the groove across the floor at] the door of the tomb?


My question is why would Mary and Mary Magdalene want to annoint a decaying body already in tomb. Dead bodies are anointed with sweet smelling spices they apply them on body of the dead before burial.. Why would they want to suppress the odour coming out of a dead and decaying body that had already been placed in the tomb?

Mikecold:
In conclusion Jesus is a member of the Trinity and they exist independently.


It's like a human being who has a body, when he dies the spirit takes the mantle but that same spirit had been a member of that body all the while

I love your honesty on the trinity.

Many Christians cannot be this honest when it comes to the trinity.

AntiChristian:
Did he resurrect before? So why didn't Israel believe the scam of death and resurrection?

It was prophesied Israel won't accept him. But in the last days they would be the champion of the course. Just watch it. It's already happening.

haekymbahd:
First of all the story of Jesus death and ressurection in the Bible is false. The Gospel of mark was the first gospel written down and it has been discovered that that the story of Jesus Christ death and resurrection in it was not part of the original manuscript of the Gospel of Mark is I personally wonder where the writer of the later Gospel books got there information from that is different from Marks source and what are the names of the authors of the gospel books we have today

Two of the oldest, most respected Bible manuscripts, Codex Sinaiticus and Codex Vaticanus end the Gospel of Mark at 16:8. Yet, the Bible you have ends Mark's Gospel at 16:20. Bible scholars would claim the 12 verses were added by a later scribe.

So if mark gospel which is the first Gospel book was corrupted how can the Later Gospels be trusted?






Secondly, it is believed that Jesus died on Friday but by Sunday morning he was not found in the tomb.
Mark 16

1AND WHEN the Sabbath was past [that is, after the sun had set], Mary Magdalene, and Mary [the mother] of James, and Salome purchased sweet-smelling spices, so that they might go and anoint [Jesus' body].

2 And very early on the first day of the week they came to the tomb; [by then] the sun had risen.

3 And they said to one another, Who will roll back the stone for us out of [the groove across the floor at] the door of the tomb?


My question is why would Mary and Mary Magdalene want to annoint a decaying body already in tomb. Dead bodies are anointed with sweet smelling spices they apply them on body of the dead before burial.. Why would they want to suppress the odour coming out of a dead and decaying body that had already been placed in the tomb?

Mr. Akeem, Go and Read Surah 3 & 5 very well.

Cutehector:
What sort of useless thread is this.. I think the mod who pushed this to front page is a muslim.


What if prophet mohd was aborted?

Guy, it is better this topic is moved to the front page. It is an opportunity for those that are well versed and knowledgeable in the scriptures and also believe in the power of resurrection of Jesus Christ to teach the unbelievers here and bring them to the way of salvation. They may think they are trying to mock Christ but I tell you, some people will receive their salvation via this public forum.

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The Orion- Sirius- Arcturus- Pleiades are all very visible and connected to the tribes of celestial Star Beings -
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The cross was a high symbol which is celebrated with Romans was for a decent burial after death of 3 days hung then placed in a tomb if you were rich or worthy of passing - No such body or burial location has been found -
This story was hijacked from great stories and combined into a fairytale for the benefit of humanity -
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Before his last breath he said "father into your hand i commit my spirit" {Luke 23:46} this means Jesus' hope of ever living again rests in the hands of our life giver (Jehovah) {Psalms 146:4 compare to Ecclesiastes 12:7} before his trial Jesus prayed on his knees begging the one and only true God who has the power to destroy both body and soul in the grave {Matthew 10:28} and he was favorably heard due to his Godly fear! Hebrews 5:7

So Jehovah God raised His faithful and loyal son (Jesus Christ) back to life {Act 3:15} therefore everlasting life is a certainty for those trusting (believing) in the name of Jesus Christ! John 3:16

Omooba77:

What if Jesus did not Resurrect? What would have happened to the whole world!

femi4:
Ignorance....It goes beyond dying and coming back to life.
Show me a King that can leave his throne for 24hrs and live like an ordinary man

It's about relinquishing his status for our sake

lol history you find it filled with kings which did exactly that. Peter the great of Russia is an example. many warriors and kings have giving their life for their people without hope of resurrection, though gesture would seem too tall for a selfish generation sha

Cutehector:
What sort of useless thread is this.. I think the mod who pushed this to front page is a muslim.


What if prophet mohd was aborted?

No fex o bro.
Jesus Christ (Isa) son of Mary is mentioned 25times in Quran,and 93verses of Quran link him as first,3rd person. Muslim don't talk bad of him as you do,I suggest an atheist.

Blakjewelry:

lol history you find it filled with kings which did exactly that. Peter the great of Russia is an example. many warriors and kings have giving their life for their people without hope of resurrection, though gesture would seem too tall for a selfish generation sha

Ignorance, the victory over death isn't complete without resurrection. No mortal can fit in

I always hear the word what if Jesus that, what if Jesus this, what happened to those people living before Jesus, were they in darkness ( remember Abraham, Moses e.t.c must also be in darkness if your claim is true)

Lotechi:
For a God who is all powerful, the world is too chaotic. It has become abundantly difficult to remain a Christian

God never said He came to heal or save the World. He came to save those that will believe and obey Him, for His Kingdom. That is why Heaven only belongs to the few and not to many or all.

The relationship He presented is an individual one- a Contract between God Himself and individual man. What you see today as Christianity is in many cases a contract forged in the minds of men, groups of men, founded on doctrines and traditions of men, what Jesus Christ called Lies, with nothing to do with God, and that is why it is filled with the chaos that is men.

To have a relationship with God, one needs to remove oneself from all the following of ideas and doctrines of men, in order to learn from God and God alone. God Himself declared that He alone is the teacher to those who follow Him and are true. Jesus Christ reiterated this Truth of God when He commanded His disciples against setting themselves up as teachers/masters over his flock, commanding also that they not rule or install themselves as authorities over their fellow followers.

If God is your teacher, He will not only teach you, but He will install His Spirit inside of you to cause you to obey His commandments. He will order your thoughts with His thoughts and your ways with His ways as He directs your every path. All you have to do is continue accept(trust) and obey His teachings/commandments, the Truth of God.

SanctifiedSista:
let him that think he know understand that he knows nothing, so be careful of oversabi..

Jesus Christ said ask and it shall be given unto you. If you want understanding, ask and He will give it to you.
No need to hate on those who have asked and received it.

Walkee:
Jews don't believe in Jesus Christ. Jews say Jesus tried to lead a revolution against the Roman empire and got hanged for treason.

Peter, Saul, John, James, Stephen, Barnabas, etc. were Jews, where they not? All those who walked with Jesus Christ while He was alive were Jews, were they not?

Jesus Christ did not lead a revolution since a revolution supposes He believed in the government of this world, a government of men. Careful read through His teachibgs would reveal that to anyone who cared to know of Him. The letters written by His disciples also serves evidence against your claim of some sort of revolution.

femi4:
Ignorance, the victory over death isn't complete without resurrection. No mortal can fit in

lol small mind, death is the balance nature has to keep things in check. without death I am not sure even you will Alive today. it's the fear of death that brings up the issue of victory, there is no very victory rather there is recycling, that is why everybody most returned to the basic elements and compounds we were formed from.

Chris9cix:
The work of Gospel and salvation will not be complete..

But Jesus Christ declared on the cross "It is finished ".

femi4:
You are missing the point. The victory is in His resurrection.

His death would have been useless if he didn't rise again

Jesus Christ declared on the Cross that it is finished....declaring complete the work for which He came. He didn't make this declaration after His resurrection but before His death and for good reason too.

His death brought completion of the work He had to do on behalf of the Lost Sheep of Israel, the New Covenant.

His resurrection however meant victory over Death, on behalf of those who are not of the lost sheep of Israel, the gentiles. And so was a sort of bonus. But the plan which God delivered to the israelites however was completed right when on the cross, Jesus Christ declared it is finished right before breathing His last.

Kobojunkiee:
Jesus Christ declared on the Cross that it is finished....declaring complete the work for which He came. He didn't make this declaration after His resurrection but before His death and for good reason too.

His death brought completion of the work He had to do on behalf of the Lost Sheep of Israel, the New Covenant.

His resurrection however meant victory over Death, on behalf of those who are not of the lost sheep of Israel, the gentiles. And so was a sort of bonus. But the plan which God delivered to the israelites however was completed right when on the cross, Jesus Christ declared it is finished right before breathing His last.

Go back and read my post. You can as well check for the meaning of VICTORY

"It is finished" not "I m finished".... Know the difference

Blakjewelry:

lol small mind, death is the balance nature has to keep things in check. without death I am not sure even you will Alive today. it's the fear of death that brings up the issue of victory, there is no very victory rather there is recycling, that is why everybody most returned to the basic elements and compounds we were formed from.

small mind

Death isn't the end

Ub8956:

No fex o bro.
Jesus Christ (Isa) son of Mary is mentioned 25times in Quran,and 93verses of Quran link him as first,3rd person. Muslim don't talk bad of him as you do,I suggest an atheist.

A true atheist born of knowledge will talk ill of him either, though he May dispute the belief in him..
history is filled with great men who's stories become legend and from there the legend grows.
today men people will jump at you if you said you don't believe any religion, but they fail to understand were that is coming from.
Take a look at the two most popular religion today, they are the ancient Jewish religion which contains alot of script you can't find in the Bible today. though they are alot of arguments today why they are not added in the Bible but at the end you will see it is for a selfish reasons as some of parts are reference in the new testament which shows the that writers acknowledge the those ancient script. for instance Jesus mentioned Abraham bossom in the story of the rich man and poor man. now you have to go the apocrypha of Abraham to know that he was taken to heaven but you cant find them anywhere today in the Bible. oh you read about the story how the sons of God flex with women and it lead to the destruction of the first generation, apart from the book of Jude which made reference where elsewhere can you find it, in book of Enoch, the full story. Now if you decides to read most of the ancient script, you will find out it is more like our local folklore hence they were screen out.
btw did you know that the apocrypha of Abraham said the massiah is going to have large followership and he will turn many away from God and will be betrayed with a kiss?