femi4:
1Pet 3:18-20

For Christ also died for sins once for all, the just for the unjust, in order that He might bring us to God, having been put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit;

femi4:
Read your Bible, no be me write am

Kobojunkiee:
Now you are running to quote Peter's letter.
Again, when Thomas stuck His finger in Jesus Christ's wounds, was that instead into a "spirit" wound that Thomas stuck his fingers into?

If Jesus Christ was only able to raise His spirit and not His flesh and blood, are we truly able to say that Jesus Christ in fact gained "victory" over Death since Death, the judgment that God placed on men, implies the perishing of the mind, body and soul of man?

Also, when did Jesus Christ appear before the Father right before returning to appear before His disciples again?

Kobojunkiee:
What you claim is not in my Bible which I read well.

femi4:
What's wrong with Peter's letter.
How does appearing in spirit means he didn't raise his body?
His later apperance to the Thomas and the rest was in flesh.

GraciousHeartsM:
Hallelujah! Good question...
His resurrection is the summit and of His entire earthly ministry, with an eternal relevance...
It would have been impossible for Jesus not to have resurrected 2021 Cursed Images because it was God's plan for Jesus to. And God did it. He can do ALL things. God can also and will resurrect all the good things that are dead in your life! Amen

Meanwhile, celebrate and declare Jesus is alive with this new and powerful music


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXdfr1W6GLY

richidinho:
Its very funny how Seun will allow idiiots to come to this thread and type rubbish, but every muslim thread is always locked

Omooba77:
What if Jesus did not Resurrect? What would have happened to the whole world!

Omooba77:


Mr. Akeem, Go and Read Surah 3 & 5 very well.

DedeNkem:

If your God actually "sacrificed" his "only" son, why did his son resurrect? When you sacrifice anything, especially, your son, you don't get him back! That's a real sacrifice!

Another thing that pisses me off is the notion that a god who could create unlimited number sons, claimed to have only one son, who died for our sins. It makes absolutely no sense!

Kobojunkie:
God didn't "Sacrifice" Jesus Christ, men did that, just like they did to many other prophets between Him, including John the Baptist.

He gave His only begotten Son in order to create more Sons of God...basically using the one to clone the rest. Is that not a way of creating Sons for Himself?

haekymbahd:
Are you saying Jesus was not sent by his father to die for sins of the world...

Jesus son of God is "God" according to Christians according to you he came to create more sons of God.

Do you mean he came to create more God?

denitro:
And if there were no atonement, the purposes of creation would be frustrated; man would remain lost
and fallen forever; there would be no resurrection nor eternal life; Adam and all his posterity would be
as Lucifer, cast out, damned, without hope, lost forever.

EJEHSON:
Not possible because the prophecy of Isiah must be fulfill. what brought about this thought? Purge yourself of evil thought.

ictjobber:
What if he didn't actually die

michresakidjo:
No salvation for the gentiles....
John 3:16

annyplenty:
Then, our faith is dead and our hope is vain.

advocatejare:
Jesus is risen.

Jesus died for the sins of mankind and offer us free access to God

Jesus preached holiness and lived a life worthy of emulation. If you follow Jesus' teachings and deeds you'd be a peaceful person, you won't kill, you won't steal, you won't be a terrorist.


Jesus himself prophesied his own death, when his disciple wanted to rebuke him from dying, jesus knew it was the devil speaking.



Matthew.16:21 - From that time on Jesus began to explain to his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, chief priests and teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life.

Matthew 16.22 - Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him. "Never, Lord!" he said. "This shall never happen to you!"

Matthew.16.23 - Jesus turned and said to Peter, "Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men."

Any religion, person, group, angel or spirit that deny the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ is that of Satan. Because that event crushed Satan and his demons forever and gave hope of salvation to the whole of mankind

advocatejare:

It means you can't mention Allah without mentioning Muhammad.

Allah is muhammad's puppet, scape goat. Allah is the one Muhammad lied against when he commited atrocities like taking over the wife of Zaid his adopted son.


Is it only Muhammad that is the messenger of Allah according to Islam, why can't you insert other messengers' name in your Shahada ?



Go and say that to your fellow Muslims that pray to Allah lola anobi Muhammad



Because it means you're praying by the virtue of Muhammad


You don't know many things about your religion.

Muhammad asked you to send your prayers (salat, your dubious translators changed prayers to blessing ) to him even after he dies and when they challenged him that how will they send prayers to him when he's dead and rotten in the grave, he lied again that prophets of God don't get rotten, which is a lie like many of his numerous lies.

Sunan Abi Dawud 1047
Narrated Aws ibn Aws:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said: Among the most excellent of your days is Friday; on it Adam was created, on it he died, on it the last trumpet will be blown, and on it the shout will be made, so invoke more prayers (alssalaat) on me that day, for your prayers (alssalaat) will be submitted to me. The people asked: Messenger of Allah, how can it be that our prayers (salaatuna) will be submitted to you while your body is decayed? He replied: Allah, the Exalted, has prohibited the earth from consuming the bodies of Prophets..


In short, Muhammad is ranked higher than Allah


Solah means prayer, go and learn Arabic.

Are the angels blind that they need Allah to mention the virtues of Muhammad to them? How do you people even reason?

Allah and all the Islamic angels submit and pray to Muhammad your god.


So muhammad was not found worthy of being a word from Allah? Muhammad was not found worthy of being a spirit from Allah.

Muhammad was not found worthy of being said to be distinguished in this world and in the hereafter.


"[And mention] when the angels said, O Mary, indeed Allah gives you good tidings of a word from Him, whose name will be the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary - distinguished in this world and the Hereafter and among those brought near ."
(QS. Aal-i-Imraan 3: Verse 45)



Allah didnt find Muhammad distinguished anywhere in this world, not to talk of in the hereafter.

Incognito403:


All what you've written up there is nothing but salad.

Of course Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلمis an essential part of this religion. Without the messenger there's no message.

But that doesn't raise him to the status of divinity and it doesn't give him a share of worship.

Islam is strictly a religion of monotheism. You're only deluding yourself by trying to force your paracletic polytheism onto it.

There's no scholar or book of tafseer that says Allaah's solah upon the prophet means prayer. That interpretation is from you and unto you. It holds no air let alone water.

Since you've decided to continue wallowing in your delusion, ignorance and arrogance. I'll leave you to it.

No time to be going back and forth with you. You'll get no further reply.

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ did not die for the sins of mankind. He died because of the sins of His people instead.. Isaiah prophesied it.

Before Jesus Christ showed up on the scene, it only the Israelites that has sins that could b forgiven ;those in the gentile world were already judged and condemned to die so they were sort of the walking "dead" of the time. So, when Jesus Christ showed up, It was His defeat of Death that was on behalf of the gentiles.

AntiChristian:
Did he resurrect before? So why didn't Israel believe the scam of death and resurrection?

Kobojunkie:
Just so you know Faith refers to works done in obedience to God's commandments.

So the faith of those who move to Israel to live and obey the commandments of God there would not be dead. Only the gentile world would remain trapped in God's condemnation of sin, Death(no afterlife).

Kobojunkiee:
God never said He came to heal or save the World. He came to save those that will believe and obey Him, for His Kingdom. That is why Heaven only belongs to the few and not to many or all.

The relationship He presented is an individual one- a Contract between God Himself and individual man. What you see today as Christianity is in many cases a contract forged in the minds of men, groups of men, founded on doctrines and traditions of men, what Jesus Christ called Lies, with nothing to do with God, and that is why it is filled with the chaos that is men.

To have a relationship with God, one needs to remove oneself from all the following of ideas and doctrines of men, in order to learn from God and God alone. God Himself declared that He alone is the teacher to those who follow Him and are true. Jesus Christ reiterated this Truth of God when He commanded His disciples against setting themselves up as teachers/masters over his flock, commanding also that they not rule or install themselves as authorities over their fellow followers.

If God is your teacher, He will not only teach you, but He will install His Spirit inside of you to cause you to obey His commandments. He will order your thoughts with His thoughts and your ways with His ways as He directs your every path. All you have to do is continue accept(trust) and obey His teachings/commandments, the Truth of God.

advocatejare:

I know it will get to a point where you'd run away.

So you expected your Tafseer and Scholars who are known to be masters in deception to expose how your so called god is praying to Muhammad?

They are ashamed and want to continue keeping you in darkness that's why they deliberately mis translated Salah, assalatu as blessings instead of the correct meaning which is prayers. Go and check in the Arabic dictionary for the meaning of those words and stop listening to liars that you call scholars


Your god of Islam, Muhammad asked commanded you to sends your prayers(assalatu) to him when he's dead, and he lied that prophets of God don't get rotten in the grave.

Muhammad is rotten in the grave which proved him to be a liar and for asking you to submit your prayers to him he has elevated his status as your god.

Kobojunkiee:
Is the world not in darkness even to this day? I mean look around and tell me where you see the Light of Jesus Christ shinning. Use Google map if you feel it necessary.

ANTIlSLAM:


So how come Quran testifies to the fact that HE IS ALIVE TILL TODAY? Maybe you don't always think before talking

haekymbahd:
In Mathew we saw there were 2 Jesus.

1. Jesus Barabbas ( son of the father)
2. Jesus Christ (Messiah)

NIV
Mathew 17
So when the crowd had gathered, Pilate asked them, "Which one do you want me to release to you: Jesus Barabbas, or Jesus who is called the Messiah?"

So they were to release one of the two Jesus and crucify the other..

Accordinding to the bible Jesus (son of the father) was released while Jesus (messiah) was crucified..

My question since Jesus was killed by romans who did not really know Jesus physically even Judas had to kiss Jesus for the Jews to capture because they did not recognize him..

Who is the real Jesus is it Jesus son of the father or Jesus the Messiah?


Allah SWT said:

"And [for] their saying, Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah. And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain."
(QS. An-Nisaa 4: Verse 157)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

The earliest gospel which is the gospel of mark didn't give account that Jesus was seen after death on the cross it stopped at Mark 16 vs 8 but later scribes eventually added to marks gospel... The later Gospels Mathew, Luke and John even Mark all had discrepancies when accounting for the ressurection of christ...

Apart from the Bible no other source nor anybody apart from the so called disciples saw Jesus ressurect and raised to heaven it was only a few group of people that saw him ressurect according to the bible which puts the death of Jesus in doubt..
None of the disciples wrote any of the gospel books

My question who are the authors of the gospel books and how reliable are they?

Lotechi:
It is funny you say “God never came to heal or save the world,” when the Bible said he literally created the world. How do you create something you are incapable of properly maintaining.

We have billions of people living a life of pain and agony, and all these could have been avoided if God did not create humans.