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Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by lakesidepapa(m): 12:06am On Apr 29
essenjack:
Please I need a spiritual/Biblical answer to this question, cos in a society like ours, most Christians tends to judge and condemn smokers.
I smoke (only Marijuana) for obvious reason(s) known to me.


NO STORY, IT IS A TOTAL SIN..
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by Kobojunkie: 12:08am On Apr 29
Tycyborg:

“cleanse ourselves from all filthiness[or defilement] of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.” —2Corinthians 7:1
And so that implies that we should not contaminate our bodies with harmful substances such as the above which you mentioned since they are lead cause of dreadful disease


I understand what you said and i was replying to your question... i said its not a bad thing if someone smokes but when it is too much more like an hobbie then it is filth just like the bible says... anything we consume into our body has its positives but when it gets too much or its becoming an addiction then it becomes filth... even drugs has amount you should take but when taken too much it becomes drug abuse which is filth to our body.
that my point
Jesus Christ alrewdy informed you that it is not what you eat/ingest that makes you filthy in anyway or form. So whether it is a hobby or done too much, it does not render you filthy, not where God is concerned. undecided

Instead what makes you filthy is what you have inside of you.
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by DappaD: 12:57am On Apr 29
Tycyborg:


“cleanse ourselves from all filthiness[or defilement] of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.” —2Corinthians 7:1
And so that implies that we should not contaminate our bodies with harmful substances such as the above which you mentioned since they are lead cause of dreadful disease

I understand what you said and i was replying to your question... i said its not a bad thing if someone smokes but when it is too much more like an hobbie then it is filth just like the bible says... anything we consume into our body has its positives but when it gets too much or its becoming an addiction then it becomes filth... even drugs has amount you should take but when taken too much it becomes drug abuse which is filth to our body.
that my point


Whatever you say is not necessarily a fact but can only be classified as opinion.
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by emzynuel1: 9:38am On Apr 29
Kobojunkiee:
So it does not matter to you that Jesus Christ Himself declsred that He alone is Teacher? undecided

What matters more to you is that, though Jesus Christ never commanded any of your gatherings, His disciples did it? undecided
His disciple did Tru d holy spirit
Christ is not jux d one teaching
D holy spirit is d comforter, the teacher and paraclete
U must have notice if u read d Bible that it was after Christ received d holy spirit dat was wen his ministering began
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by emzynuel1: 9:40am On Apr 29
almarthins:


I can tell that u r not even a Christian. You re jus merely intelligent. so u have no part in this matter.
Y nt take poison den n see wat happens
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by emzynuel1: 9:43am On Apr 29
Kobojunkiee:
Christ did what through the Holy Spirit? Where? undecided

You have to read that book with your eyes and years engaged so you are not easily fooled into believing lies instead. Jesus Christ said, "IF two or three are gathered in His name...", not "Two or Three must gather in His name...". undecided
The IF there is conditional meaning dat if 29 pipu gather watching ball Christ can't b there because dey gathered in d name of football
If 30 pipu gather in d name of d devil Christ can't b dere because dey gathered in d name of a demon
If 3 or 4 pipu are gathered in d name of God Tru anything he will n dere
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by Kobojunkie: 9:59am On Apr 29
emzynuel1:

The IF there is conditional meaning dat if 29 pipu gather watching ball Christ can't b there because dey gathered in d name of football
If 30 pipu gather in d name of d devil Christ can't b dere because dey gathered in d name of a demon
If 3 or 4 pipu are gathered in d name of God Tru anything he will n dere
IF 1 person stands in His name, did Jesus Christ say or insinuate that He is not there standing with that person? undecided
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by emzynuel1: 10:58am On Apr 29
Kobojunkie:
IF 1 person stands in His name, did Jesus Christ say or insinuate that He is not there standing with that person? undecided
Y don't u ansa d question u sef
U are d only niggar fr Christ standing alone���
Even d apostles were sent out in tu
My bloda why are u
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by Kobojunkie: 11:15am On Apr 29
emzynuel1:

Y don't u ansa d question u sef
U are d only niggar fr Christ standing alone���
Even d apostles were sent out in tu
My bloda why are u
Jesus Christ said that if you obey His commandments, He, Jesus Christ and the Father will come and live inside of you. So, isn't the answer obvious undecided

Instead, the conditional stated in the law of 2 or 3 witness, does not imply a mandated gathering but instead gives assurance to us that even when we gather with others in His nname,Jesus Christ stands with us. undecided

About the apostles, I am afraid they were not always sent out in 2s. Remember Philip? In Acts of the apostles, he was sent out alone. undecided

The New Covenant , Jesus Christ is an agreement between God and individuals, not groups, so be sure that God can and may require you to walk alone. Be ready for it too. undecided
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by emzynuel1: 3:10pm On Apr 29
Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ said that if you obey His commandments, He, Jesus Christ and the Father will come and live inside of you. So, isn't the answer obvious undecided

Instead, the conditional stated in the law of 2 or 3 witness, does not imply a mandated gathering but instead gives assurance to us that even when we gather with others in His nname,Jesus Christ stands with us. undecided

About the apostles, I am afraid they were not always sent out in 2s. Remember Philip? In Acts of the apostles, he was sent out alone. undecided

The New Covenant , Jesus Christ is an agreement between God and individuals, not groups, so be sure that God can and may require you to walk alone. Be ready for it too. undecided
Philip was sent out alone try d holy spirit
If it was jux d commandment y did d apostles receive d holy spirit
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by Kobojunkie: 6:23pm On Apr 29
emzynuel1:

Philip was sent out alone try d holy spirit
If it was jux d commandment y did d apostles receive d holy spirit
If the Spirit of God not God? undecided

I am afraid you need to go read what Jesus Christ said in John chapters 14, 15 and 16 about those who truly belong to Him and why it is important that they are led by the Spirit of God. undecided
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by emzynuel1: 7:51pm On Apr 29
Kobojunkie:
If the Spirit of God not God? undecided

I am afraid you need to go read what Jesus Christ said in John chapters 14, 15 and 16 about those who truly belong to Him and why it is important that they are led by the Spirit of God. undecided
Are u trying to say the holy spirit, the son and God are not one
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by Kobojunkie: 8:33pm On Apr 29
emzynuel1:

Are u trying to say the holy spirit, the son and God are not one
When Jesus Christ, the Truth of God, said that if you obey His Commandment, that He, Jesus Christ, and His Father, will come and live inside of you, Jesus Christ in fact meant that inside of those who are born-again lives two Spirits - the Spirit of Truth (Jesus Christ) and the Spirit of God(God). undecided

Yes, there is not just one helper but two of them and both of them of God. So , though they are 2 different Spirits living on the inside of a one who is born-again, they are one - united in God. undecided
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by emzynuel1: 9:18pm On Apr 29
Kobojunkie:
When Jesus Christ, the Truth of God, said that if you obey His Commandment, that He, Jesus Christ, and His Father, will come and live inside of you, Jesus Christ in fact meant that inside of those who are born-again lives two Spirits - the Spirit of Truth (Jesus Christ) and the Spirit of God(God). undecided

Yes, there is not just one helper but two of them and both of them of God. So , though they are 2 different Spirits living on the inside of a one who is born-again, they are one - united in God. undecided
Bro stop amusing urself did u even read dat part of d Bible to u told me to read
How come he still sent the holy spirit
If d apostles already have Jesus Christ and God in dem
John 16 verse 4 down Christ himself said if dat if he doesn't leave d holy spirit cannot come to guide Dem it says dat d spirit will speak of wat he hears from the father
Meaning dat d spirit itself is independent but works together with the Trinity
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by Kobojunkie: 9:23pm On Apr 29
emzynuel1:

Bro stop amusing urself did u even read dat part of d Bible to u told me to read
How come he still sent the holy spirit
If d apostles already have Jesus Christ and God in dem
John 16 verse 4 down Christ himself said if dat if he doesn't leave d holy spirit cannot come to guide Dem it says dat d spirit will speak of wat he hears from the father
Meaning dat d spirit itself is independent but works together with the Trinity
You need to learn to comprehend that which is written to you before you respond. undecided

Pay attention!
Kobojunkie:
When Jesus Christ, the Truth of God, said that if you obey His Commandment, that He, Jesus Christ, and His Father, will come and live inside of you, Jesus Christ in fact meant that inside of those who are born-again lives two Spirits - the Spirit of Truth (Jesus Christ) and the Spirit of God(God). undecided

Yes, there is not just one helper but two of them and both of them of God. So , though they are 2 different Spirits living on the inside of a one who is born-again, they are one - united in God. undecided
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by emzynuel1: 10:31pm On Apr 29
Kobojunkie:
You need to learn to comprehend that which is written to you before you respond. undecided

Pay attention!
So basically there is no holy spirit or third person
Only d father n d son ryt
So wat u wmare bluntly saying is dat dere is no Trinity ryt
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by Kobojunkie: 10:38pm On Apr 29
emzynuel1:

So basically there is no holy spirit or third person
Only d father n d son ryt
So wat u wmare bluntly saying is dat dere is no Trinity ryt
If you are asking whether I believe in Man's doctrine of Trinity, my answer is no. undecided

As for what you said of only the father and the son,I suggest you go back and carefully read what I have posted so you can ask better questions of me. undecided
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by emzynuel1: 10:49pm On Apr 29
Kobojunkie:
If you are asking whether I believe in Man's doctrine of Trinity, my answer is no. undecided

As for what you said of only the father and the son,I suggest you go back and carefully read what I have posted so you can ask better questions of me. undecided
If Jesus is the spirit of truth
Then y did he have to tell d disciples dar he needs to go b k fr the spirit to cum
Check dat ur John again
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by Kobojunkie: 10:52pm On Apr 29
emzynuel1:

If Jesus is the spirit of truth
Then y did he have to tell d disciples dar he needs to go b k fr the spirit to cum
Check dat ur John again
In John 14 vz 23 - 28, you are told that the one to come is ANOTHER, in addition to the Spirit of Truth which they already know. undecided

In Ezekiel 36, God Himself tells you that He will install a new Spirit in His followers, and will put His own Spirit in them to make them obey His commandments. So there are 2 Spirits, not one. undecided
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by emzynuel1: 10:55pm On Apr 29
Kobojunkie:
In John 14 vz 23 - 28, you are told that the one to come is ANOTHER, in addition to the Spirit of Truth which they already know. undecided

In Ezekiel 36, God Himself tells you that He will install a new Spirit in His followers, and will put His own Spirit in them to make them obey His commandments. So there are 2 Spirits, not one. undecided
Check John 16
1 John 5:7-8 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one
Are u trying to say d scripture is rong
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by Kobojunkie: 11:16pm On Apr 29
emzynuel1:

Check John 16
1 John 5:7-8 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one
Are u trying to say d scripture is rong
That scripture has nothing to do with this discussion though. undecided
Do you recall we were on the subject of gathering and you mentioned how I mentioned that Jesus Christ lives inside of even a one who is not gathered with others? undecided

Also,the doctrine of trinity goes beyond what John wrote there in 1st John 5 vs 7-8. undecided
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by emzynuel1: 11:56pm On Apr 29
Kobojunkie:
That scripture has nothing to do with this discussion though. undecided
Do you recall we were on the subject of gathering and you mentioned how I mentioned that Jesus Christ lives inside of even a one who is not gathered with others? undecided

Also,the doctrine of trinity goes beyond what John wrote there in 1st John 5 vs 7-8. undecided
Bro u don dey disguise abiii
I asked u if I believed in the Hy Trinity u said no
U again said dat spirit is jux the spirit of truth wich is Christ and the other one which is God
D verse which I showed u was shown to prove ur hypothesis rong
Anyway shaa he does but d prob is do u have d holy spirit
Moreover as I said earlier iron sharpens iron even Christ imself had disciples
The apostles gathered nt jux to pray but to strengthen their faith and give encouragement to one anoda
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by Kobojunkie: 12:13am On Apr 30
emzynuel1:

Bro u don dey disguise abiii
I asked u if I believed in the Hy Trinity u said no
U again said dat spirit is jux the spirit of truth wich is Christ and the other one which is God
D verse which I showed u was shown to prove ur hypothesis rong
Anyway shaa he does but d prob is do u have d holy spirit
Moreover as I said earlier iron sharpens iron even Christ imself had disciples
The apostles gathered nt jux to pray but to strengthen their faith and give encouragement to one anoda
Again

1. I made it clear that I do not subscribe to Man's doctrine of the Trinity undecided

2. I told you that in the Gospel of John, john 14, Jesus Christ explained that there are 2 Spirits living inside of everyone who is a born-again follower of Jesus Christ. undecided

3. I gave you no such hypothesis such I am certain what you claim to have disproved undecided

4. The verses you posted from the letter of John insteas speaks of witnesses for every follower of Jesus Christ in Heaven and on Earth. Since we never discussed the topic of witnesses, I am certain why you felt that was appropriate for this conversation undecided

5. If you had the Spirit of God inside of you,you would not be asking over and over about "trinity" because you would know that the doctrine is according to the ideas and opinions of men and not God's teaching. undecided

6. Jesus Christ did not come to call you so you can do as the apostles did. Jesus instead called you to live according to His examples and commandments to you. You and you alone will answer for everything you did here on earth in His name. There are no groups in this... and this because Jesus Christ came to call individuals, not groups, to God. undecided
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by emzynuel1: 12:30am On Apr 30
Kobojunkie:

Again

1. I made it clear that I do not subscribe to Man's doctrine of the Trinity undecided

2. I told you that in the Gospel of John, john 14, Jesus Christ explained that there are 2 Spirits living inside of everyone who is a born-again follower of Jesus Christ. undecided

3. I gave you no such hypothesis such I am certain what you claim to have disproved undecided

4. The verses you posted from the letter of John insteas speaks of witnesses for every follower of Jesus Christ in Heaven and on Earth. Since we never discussed the topic of witnesses, I am certain why you felt that was appropriate for this conversation undecided

5. If you had the Spirit of God inside of you,you would not be asking over and over about "trinity" because you would know that the doctrine is according to the ideas and opinions of men and not God's teaching. undecided

6. Jesus Christ did not come to call you so you can do as the apostles did. Jesus instead called you to live according to His examples and commandments to you. You and you alone will answer for everything you did here on earth in His name. There are no groups in this... and this because Jesus Christ came to call individuals, not groups, to God. undecided
Guy wat is ur point sef
Do u or do u nt believe in d holy Trinity
If no are u trying to say d Bible is false
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by Kobojunkie: 12:50am On Apr 30
emzynuel1:

Guy wat is ur point sef
Do u or do u nt believe in d holy Trinity
If no are u trying to say d Bible is false
Are you now feigning blindness? undecided
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by emzynuel1: 1:31am On Apr 30
Kobojunkie:
Are you now feigning blindness? undecided
Even d Bible acknowledge d holy Trinity n u are saying u don't accept man's theory on d Trinity
Bro dat bullshit
I jux tink u are either an extremist with ur view or jux completely confused
Wen u study d Bible u can't jux take wat u want n ignore d text due to d fact dat dey don't meet ur doctrine or approach towards life
Even understanding the Bible requires d holy spirit
Let say am blind
Wat are u trying to say sed
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by Kobojunkie: 1:41am On Apr 30
emzynuel1:

Even d Bible acknowledge d holy Trinity n u are saying u don't accept man's theory on d Trinity
Bro dat bullshit
I jux tink u are either an extremist with ur view or jux completely confused
Wen u study d Bible u can't jux take wat u want n ignore d text due to d fact dat dey don't meet ur doctrine or approach towards life
Even understanding the Bible requires d holy spirit
Let say am blind
Wat are u trying to say sed
1. To those of you who cling to the doctrine, the Bible ofcourse seems to acknowledge that doctrine as it was presented you by men. But the Truth is. The Bible instaed speaks of a different kind of relationship between the trio than your doctrines teach you. undecided

2. Jesus Christ instructed you to never accept or teach the doctrines and traditions of men as they are nothing but lies which instead heap curses on those who teach them and those who imbibe them. undecided

3. You think I am an extremist where it concerns the teachings of Jesus Christ? Do you think that when Jesus Christ declared that He alone is the Truth, he was calling you to allow some lies? undecided

4. I never just take what I want and leave the rest. I simply told you that the verse you provided has no relationship to the topic of discussion. There is such a thing as context even where a conversation is concerned. undecided

5. God never told you that you need the Spirit of God to comprehend what is written in scripture. In fact, Jesus Christ said rather that you should use the understanding you already have, and only then will you be given more. But if you do not apply even basic human language comprehension skills first to understanding what is written, as it is written, why do you think more understanding will be given you, even if by the Spirit of God. undecided

6. I told you that this discussion has nothing to do with Trinity and I also informed you that I don't believe in Man's idea of Trinity. What I don't understand is why you keep asking me of Trinity as if you do not know what I have clearly stated before now on the subject. undecided
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by emzynuel1: 7:42am On Apr 30
Kobojunkie:

1. To those of you who cling to the doctrine, the Bible ofcourse seems to acknowledge that doctrine as it was presented you by men. But the Truth is. The Bible instaed speaks of a different kind of relationship between the trio than your doctrines teach you. undecided

2. Jesus Christ instructed you to never accept or teach the doctrines and traditions of men as they are nothing but lies which instead heap curses on those who teach them and those who imbibe them. undecided

3. You think I am an extremist where it concerns the teachings of Jesus Christ? Do you think that when Jesus Christ declared that He alone is the Truth, he was calling you to allow some lies? undecided

4. I never just take what I want and leave the rest. I simply told you that the verse you provided has no relationship to the topic of discussion. There is such a thing as context even where a conversation is concerned. undecided

5. God never told you that you need the Spirit of God to comprehend what is written in scripture. In fact, Jesus Christ said rather that you should use the understanding you already have, and only then will you be given more. But if you do not apply even basic human language comprehension skills first to understanding what is written, as it is written, why do you think more understanding will be given you, even if by the Spirit of God. undecided

6. I told you that this discussion has nothing to do with Trinity and I also informed you that I don't believe in Man's idea of Trinity. What I don't understand is why you keep asking me of Trinity as if you do not know what I have clearly stated before now on the subject. undecided
Bible scriptures attached to each of your point pls
If Christ Neva allowesd us to take d doctrine of men den y Don't u sleep with ur sis nah
Since it was accepted in d old testament
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by Kobojunkie: 11:04am On Apr 30
emzynuel1:

Bible scriptures attached to each of your point pls
If Christ Neva allowesd us to take d doctrine of men den y Don't u sleep with ur sis nah
Since it was accepted in d old testament
Go read Mark 12. undecided
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by Tycyborg(m): 4:50pm On Apr 30
Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ alrewdy informed you that it is not what you eat/ingest that makes you filthy in anyway or form. So whether it is a hobby or done too much, it does not render you filthy, not where God is concerned. undecided

Instead what makes you filthy is what you have inside of you.

Honestly you have a point.
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Smoke? by emzynuel1: 6:17pm On Apr 30
Kobojunkie:
Go read Mark 12. undecided
Wat does it say
If u don't believe in men's doctrine y Don't u exclude other part apart from d gospel frm d Bible

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