elated177:


Those who misunderstand the writings and teachings of apostle Paul, our brother, will continue to fall into trouble. The funny thing is many them deliberately twist them to justify their own lawlessness and give pleasure to their lawless listeners and followers.

2 Peter 3 : 15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

Now, listen:

Deut 32 : 46 he said to them, “Take to heart all the words I have solemnly declared to you this day, so that you may command your children to obey carefully all the words of this law. 47 They are not just idle words for you—they are your life. By them you will live long in the land you are crossing the Jordan to possess.”

Need I say more?

blueAgent:


Another crap.

You are confused.

Did God write any cremional law in the 10commandments?

livingchrist:

Where is it written that God's commandment is the 10 commandments? Going by your logic homosexuality/ lesbianism as well as sex between unmarried people is ok because they are not part of the ten commandments.

by the way Jesus said the two law which are not part of the ten commandment is greater than the ten commandments.

elated177:


You said a completely different thing from what the verse said. Do yourself a favour; if really you want to serve and follow the Messiah. Leave the writings of apostle Paul alone, if you don't understand them.

livingchrist:

Where is it written that God's commandment is the 10 commandments? Going by your logic homosexuality/ lesbianism as well as sex between unmarried people is ok because they are not part of the ten commandments.

by the way Jesus said the two law which are not part of the ten commandment is greater than the ten commandments.

blueAgent:


Talking to you is like am schooling a 5year old, no sense or rationality.

I have explained this verse over 10times and would not repeat myself.

livingchrist:
barking like a dog, why did you avoid the question, where in the ten commandment is are the two greatest commandment written? Confused dolt,

livingchrist:

Now I know You are not ok.

When an unmarried person have sex with another unmarried person what is it called? Adultery or fornication?

blueAgent:



Are you drunk?

Why is it called the 10commandments?
Is there any other place in the Bible were God wrote with his finger or appeared the way he did on mount Sinai?

What do you think will be the commandments of God outside the 10commandments?

budaatum:


Not the "penalty of breaking God's law". Because as you yourself said, the law and the penalty still applies.

What Jesus came to teach was how not to break the commandments in the first place so that the law of breaking them does not apply to one.

blueAgent:


You are an idiot.

I have posted this evidence over 10times showing repeatedly that the commandments to love God and ones neighbour is to obey the 10commandments.

I would not repeat myself.

You deserve the insults you get becos you are craftly and a liar.

I argued with Myers I showed him Bible verses in new testament that instructs us to obey God's law and commandments and I asked him weather he has wonder which laws does Bible verses are talking about.
He responded and ask me to explain that he also thinks about it.

That shows someone who has sense and wants to learn not a kom kom like you that would lie and twist God's word even when the truth is in your front.

MaxInDHouse:
Before the Israelites enter into the promise land where God promised to protect them from all their enemies He instructed them to set apart cities of refuge. This cities will serve as a place to run to for safety if any man or woman should mistakenly kill someone. Numbers 35:6
So an unintentional killer must run into any city of refuge closest to him otherwise a relative of the deceased will serve as an avenger of blood and he has every right to kill him. Numbers 35:11-12
According to God's standard for justice any intentional killer will not be delivered! Numbers 35:16-20

Now based on God's righteous standard Adam and Eve deliberately chose death which has resulted to suffering, sickness and death in the lives of billions of innocent people from a day old child to a man who still love to continue living his youthful life but growing old and weak by the day all because of the choice two individuals (Adam and Eve) made!

Do you think the avenger of blood (Jesus Christ) is coming to spare those two intentional murderers who put mankind into this dreadful condition? Luke 11:51

So salvation is only for the innocent not for wilful intentional wrongdoers. Adam and Eve deliberately put all their descendants in big trouble, if anything should spare them of their intentional wrongdoing then there is no reason for God to send their descendants who never heard God speak directly like Noah's contemporaries and the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah to eternal destruction.

Jesus declared that people who saw and heard from him yet refused to take his wise counsel will PERISH {Matthew 11:23} he even goes on to say those that deliberately ignore warning from his followers will not be spared {Matthew 10:11-15} so why do you think two individuals who had everything at their disposal: the best food, purest water, sound health, prospect of living forever as youth courtesy the one who asked them to keep just one single rule and they deliberately chose to rebel against Him will be forgiven, but people who are suffering the consequences of those two rebels and struggling to manage what they had will not be forgiven simply because they disobey the person they can't see or hear His voice?
Remember Adam and Eve were privileged to speak with God one on one!

blueAgent:


Were did I write that homosexuality , lesbianism is OK?

All the sin ever known to man is covered by the 10commandments.

Homosexuality, lesbianism, adultery all fall under thou shall not commit adultery.

It's as simple as that.

Liar.

No where did Jesus say his 2 laws are greater rather he equated them as been the same laws with that the prophets and the people had known.

blueAgent:


Understand me.

Christ died to save everyone of us from eternal death which Adam and Eve brought upon us.

We are all sinners from when we are born to when we take that decision to fellow christ.

What christ death did was to free us from that penalty of our past sins and that of Adam which we inherited its penalty been death.

And also to teach us how not to break the law.

blueAgent:

Show me bible evidence not personal thoughts or feeling.

blueAgent:


And that same Bible shows us that to love God is to keep his commandments (10commandments)



1 John 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.

1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.


Jesus did not give a new commandments, rather his saying the commandments he is referring to has been there since the beginning and has been known by his audience.

2 John 1:5 And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another.

2 John 1:6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in .

Myer:

I wish to know your interpretation of this verse.
John 13:34-35
A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another. By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.

livingchrist:
why should I leave the writings of paul alone?

livingchrist:
Surely people may twist it, get the word twist meaning to take it out of context meaning if the words of paul are placed in context it would be understood.

paul wrote deep things of the Christian faith, so unbelivers might twist it to condemn themselves.

livingchrist:

Was Deuteronomy written to you? The only way the old testament can be understood is through the teachings of the new testament.

livingchrist:

John 5:39
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

All the old testament from Gensis to Malachi are bearing witness of christ.
In the old testament it was the law that was their guide but that law was only pointing to Jesus.

livingchrist:

Mark 12:29-31 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.



smh who is the liar now.
Anyway I m done with you

Myer:


I wish to know your interpretation of this verse.

John 13:34-35
A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another. By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.”

MaxInDHouse:
I asked series of questions in the write up, can you answer just one to prove you're truly for righteousness?

For example, God is destroying people who don't believe (trust) in Him.
So how do you reconcile that with the idea that God will spare those whose rebellion brought all of us into this situation?

budaatum:


I guess I'm more interested in Christ's life than the fact we ignorantly stupidly crucified him for which I seek forgiveness.

We'd probably have been taught a lot more if we hadn't.

livingchrist:

Mark 12:29-31 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

Clown, and your brain did not tell you that those 2commandments are the same as the 10commandments?

While the Bible itself doesn’t make these associations directly and explicitly, Paul comes close in Romans 13, where he connects the second greatest command to love your neighbor with four of the ten commandments, all of which come in the second group.

Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law. 9 The commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not covet,” and whatever other command there may be, are summed up in this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” 10 Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

ROMANS 13:8–10
Paul mentions #7 (adultery), #6 (murder), #8 (stealing), #10 (covetousness) from the Ten Commandments and then includes a catchall “whatever other command there may be,” which no doubt includes #9 (lying) and perhaps #5 (honoring parents) and other more specific commands outside the Ten Commandments. Notably absent are any of the first four. He says this group of commandments “are summed up” (v. 9) in the command “Love your neighbor as yourself,” which is “the fulfillment of the law” (v. 10b; cf. v 8b).

So there’s some biblical basis for associating this second group of commands, which focus on how we treat others, with the second greatest commandment to love our neighbors. By extension, then, we could conclude that the first group of commands corresponds to the greatest command, to love God supremely, which fits the subject of these commandments.



smh who is the liar now.
Anyway I m done with you

livingchrist:
Answer the question, and prove that I am lying

livingchrist:
God writing the ten commandment with his finger is part of the glory of the old testament, he did it to glorify the law. Every other part of the law were extensions of the ten commanment, the ten commandment is like a summary of the over 614 laws.

Paul was specifically referring to the law written on the table of stones giving to moses.
The old covenant has passed away with all its laws, the new has come but however the new covenant open up the old testament and shows it's TRUE meaning however, Through the new covenant the law is fulfilled and established.

blueAgent:

Yeah.

I think his death was already destined to happen.
Weather we were involved or not, becos that was the only way to free us from the penalty of the law.

livingchrist:
so thou shall not commit adultery that paul called the law is ceremonial law? It was you that said the law paul was talking about was ceremonial law

livingchrist:
Is it the ministration that was written on the two tablets of stones giving to moses or the ten commandments?

Exodus 34:29
And it came to pass, when Moses came down from mount Sinai with the two tables of testimony in Moses' hand, when he came down from the mount, that Moses wist not that the skin of his face shone while he talked with him.

You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.

2 Corinthians 3:7
But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:

livingchrist:
Is it the ministration that was written on the two tablets of stones giving to moses or the ten commandments?

Exodus 34:29
And it came to pass, when Moses came down from mount Sinai with the two tables of testimony in Moses' hand, when he came down from the mount, that Moses wist not that the skin of his face shone while he talked with him.

You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.

2 Corinthians 3:7
But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:

blueAgent:


If you had sense you would know that even in the new convenant the law still stands.