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Re: Four West African Countries To Buy Nigeria’s Idle Electricity by Coquinoqui: 7:04pm On Jun 10, 2021
If you're a politician in Nigeria I automatically hate you, sorry no apology
Re: Four West African Countries To Buy Nigeria’s Idle Electricity by genitori(m): 7:06pm On Jun 10, 2021
WiszyFraud:
Did you know??

Having friends from other cultures makes you more creative, a study found.


cool

Just imagine; abandoning your own kin just to make friends all around the world.
Penny wise; pound foolish.

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Re: Four West African Countries To Buy Nigeria’s Idle Electricity by Jamesrock(m): 7:10pm On Jun 10, 2021
Litmus:


Are you okay?

Ask you slowpoke father!
Re: Four West African Countries To Buy Nigeria’s Idle Electricity by Patojargz: 7:20pm On Jun 10, 2021
West African countries wey dey get light 24hrs still wan buy more. Shame on dis shitty hole. Trump nor lie...
Re: Four West African Countries To Buy Nigeria’s Idle Electricity by Akinsazy1985: 7:34pm On Jun 10, 2021
Jamesrock:
A useless country is removing the Log of wood in another person eyes while their own is still on...

Shame! Shame! Shame!!

Re: Four West African Countries To Buy Nigeria’s Idle Electricity by adanny01(m): 7:42pm On Jun 10, 2021
The first page is filled with ignorant comments as with 90% of the threads on NL.

Power problems in Nigeria is mostly distribution issues and not generation. Secondly, transmission is the second but far smaller problem.

That means Nigeria can afford to sell unused generated power.
Re: Four West African Countries To Buy Nigeria’s Idle Electricity by showafrica(m): 8:47pm On Jun 10, 2021
GIANTPLUSHUB:
Mheen! So, we even had surplus of electric yet several places are still in darkness shocked Nigeria is a funny country.

The kind of strange things happening in this country is a course to be studied.

Its witchcraft, you think the darkness for 60yrs is ordinary.
Re: Four West African Countries To Buy Nigeria’s Idle Electricity by EMIOMOADEOYE: 8:54pm On Jun 10, 2021
GIANTPLUSHUB:
Mheen! So, we even had surplus of electric yet several places are still in darkness shocked Nigeria is a funny country.

The kind of strange things happening in this country is a course to be studied.

Unfortunately you had a Minister of Power who was more interested in playing Chicken Sherlock Holmes instead of addressing the GenCo VS DisCo gap in existence.

Your GenCos are functioning fine. Your GenCos have enough power to give Nigeria

Your DisCos have simply refused to take up what the GenCos are generating. So you cant blame them for dumping the energy you rejected.

The Madman.....or sorry Mamman that is there now probably has no clue the difference between GenCo and DisCo
Re: Four West African Countries To Buy Nigeria’s Idle Electricity by EMIOMOADEOYE: 8:55pm On Jun 10, 2021
adanny01:
The first page is filled with ignorant comments as with 90% of the threads on NL.

Power problems in Nigeria is mostly distribution issues and not generation. Secondly, transmission is the second but far smaller problem.

That means Nigeria can afford to sell unused generated power.

The Oil in your head is Original OEM.

Chop knuckle
Re: Four West African Countries To Buy Nigeria’s Idle Electricity by Kelisss: 9:29pm On Jun 10, 2021
yet dey smell. did he just say unused power? do we have sufficient power as it is? this life no balance
Re: Four West African Countries To Buy Nigeria’s Idle Electricity by sslcrypt: 9:45pm On Jun 10, 2021
WiszyFraud:
Did you know??

Having friends from other cultures makes you more creative, a study found.


cool
I find your post very educative, keep up the good work.

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Re: Four West African Countries To Buy Nigeria’s Idle Electricity by ayatt(m): 10:08pm On Jun 10, 2021
emeraldlife:


Nigeria can and it's very soon.


'Stable' with emphasis!
Bro i don't think so.
Re: Four West African Countries To Buy Nigeria’s Idle Electricity by Litmus: 12:01am On Jun 11, 2021
Jamesrock:


Ask you slowpoke father!

This is the thanks I get for being concerned about your mental health undecided
Re: Four West African Countries To Buy Nigeria’s Idle Electricity by Beesluv: 12:40am On Jun 11, 2021
Idle electricity in nigeria ke?
Re: Four West African Countries To Buy Nigeria’s Idle Electricity by dochenaj: 2:06am On Jun 11, 2021
This post is so saddening that it is should make any sane Nigerian cry.

In my area in Lagos, I can barely boast of 5 hours of power daily for the past few months but yet we have unutilized power to sell to neighboring countries.

We sell electricity to generate foreign revenue but we don't have electricity to promote industrialization that will revamp our economy in it's entirety.

Is this not madness?
Re: Four West African Countries To Buy Nigeria’s Idle Electricity by dochenaj: 2:15am On Jun 11, 2021
adanny01:
The first page is filled with ignorant comments as with 90% of the threads on NL.

Power problems in Nigeria is mostly distribution issues and not generation. Secondly, transmission is the second but far smaller problem.

That means Nigeria can afford to sell unused generated power.
And the distribution issues cannot be solved?

It is an NP-complete problem, right? So why should we waste our energy on that, let's just build transmission lines and sell the power.
Re: Four West African Countries To Buy Nigeria’s Idle Electricity by Clinton207: 2:44am On Jun 11, 2021
Is this country not just a joke?? Her citizens suffers power supply and yet we have idle electricity generation to sell ! Who did our forefathers offend abeg
Re: Four West African Countries To Buy Nigeria’s Idle Electricity by alenwup(m): 6:25am On Jun 11, 2021
What a crap! Meanwhile AEDC is receiving less than 300MW to serve Abuja, Kogi, Nassarawa and Niger. This country go soon burst
Re: Four West African Countries To Buy Nigeria’s Idle Electricity by adanny01(m): 6:53am On Jun 11, 2021
dochenaj:
And the distribution issues cannot be solved?

It is an NP-complete problem, right? So why should we waste our energy on that, let's just build transmission lines and sell the power.

Have you forgotten that distribution of electricity is in private hands?

Ask anyone who uses 33kV lines for power supply, they get 22-24hrs electricity per day except when there is a system failure in the national grid. The reason is that 33kV, 132kV and 330kV networks are under the TCN while 11kV and 415V are under the DISCOs where you have the serious supply problems.

The problem is lack of adequate power transformers and bad 415V network. Build a house today 500m from the last 415V pole, you will be totally responsible for extending the service to your house. A lot of people will use substandard wires for their own usage but years down the line, that house becomes a community without any upgrade to the wire that was meant for 1 house. That community begins to affect the transformer.

It i well known that DISCOs don't buy power transformers or cables and poles for communities. Everyone is on his own with that regard, as such these things are being over loaded. They end up having to turn off the electricity for the systems to cool off or they simply cannot turn on the electricity for every one at the same time.

In summary, the power is there but the DISCOs cannot use all of it because of inadequate infrastructure at their end.
Re: Four West African Countries To Buy Nigeria’s Idle Electricity by Itzdboss: 7:11am On Jun 11, 2021
So we even have excess power
Chai �
Nigeria ehn
It's a joke
Re: Four West African Countries To Buy Nigeria’s Idle Electricity by adanny01(m): 7:19am On Jun 11, 2021
alenwup:
What a crap! Meanwhile AEDC is receiving less than 300MW to serve Abuja, Kogi, Nassarawa and Niger. This country go soon burst

Have you bothered to find out if AEDC has the infrastructure to distribute above 300MW if they were to be given more?

I was at Zungeru town in Niger for a while last year, they had no electricity for over 2yrs. The 11kV live was destroyed by rainstorm years ago but AEDC did nothing about it until the Local government decided to fix it.

The real question is would a 11kV line properly deliver 24hrs electricity to the town, absolutely not. That means the problem is multifaceted.

Give AEDC 500MW, nothing will change. They simply cannot distribute more than their network can carry. The network they will never upgrade. The same applies to all DISCOs.

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Re: Four West African Countries To Buy Nigeria’s Idle Electricity by Ruthymoon(f): 1:03pm On Jun 11, 2021
grin do you mean your ancestors are that useless
Jamesrock:
A useless country is removing the Log of wood in another person eyes while their own is still on...

Shame! Shame! Shame!!
Re: Four West African Countries To Buy Nigeria’s Idle Electricity by Jamesrock(m): 2:13pm On Jun 11, 2021
Ruthymoon:
grin do you mean your ancestors are that useless

You’re not smart
Re: Four West African Countries To Buy Nigeria’s Idle Electricity by dochenaj: 4:33pm On Jun 11, 2021
adanny01:
Have you forgotten that distribution of electricity is in private hands?

Ask anyone who uses 33kV lines for power supply, they get 22-24hrs electricity per day except when there is a system failure in the national grid. The reason is that 33kV, 132kV and 330kV networks are under the TCN while 11kV and 415V are under the DISCOs where you have the serious supply problems.

The problem is lack of adequate power transformers and bad 415V network. Build a house today 500m from the last 415V pole, you will be totally responsible for extending the service to your house. A lot of people will use substandard wires for their own usage but years down the line, that house becomes a community without any upgrade to the wire that was meant for 1 house. That community begins to affect the transformer.

It i well known that DISCOs don't buy power transformers or cables and poles for communities. Everyone is on his own with that regard, as such these things are being over loaded. They end up having to turn off the electricity for the systems to cool off or they simply cannot turn on the electricity for every one at the same time.

In summary, the power is there but the DISCOs cannot use all of it because of inadequate infrastructure at their end.
Very enlightening and interestingly simple.

So the problem is the DISCOs, and it is common knowledge?

Why can't the government, notably the Ministry of Power do something about it?

If the NCC can sanction private telecommunication companies and NBC, broadcasting companies. Why can't the government set up a commission that looks into all the various power companies and sanction the failing DISCOs and get them to get their act together?
Re: Four West African Countries To Buy Nigeria’s Idle Electricity by adanny01(m): 10:55am On Jun 12, 2021
dochenaj:

Very enlightening and interestingly simple.

So the problem is the DISCOs, and it is common knowledge?

Why can't the government, notably the Ministry of Power do something about it?

If the NCC can sanction private telecommunication companies and NBC, broadcasting companies. Why can't the government set up a commission that looks into all the various power companies and sanction the failing DISCOs and get them to get their act together?

These are private businesses, you can't force them to do more infrastructure. They will welcome anyone who will do it for them. In fact, NIPP did it before they went private. The Nigerian Rural Electrification Agency still do it. Local governments and even state governments do it. Infact, individuals do it. The DISCOs only do it when there is a huge revenue potential.

NERC only regulates them but to a limit. NERC always budge under pressure from the DISCOs. This infrastructure problem is just a tip of the iceberg, the problems are far many.

NBC abi na NCC couldn't force DSTV to implement Pay-per-view, its the same here.

For the fact that we don't produce the electricity equipment, relying on import is another huge problem. We import as little as wires, we also get to import transformers. All these depends on foreign exchange so you can imagine how a transformer that was N1m some years ago is N2m now.
Re: Four West African Countries To Buy Nigeria’s Idle Electricity by dochenaj: 9:42am On Jun 13, 2021
adanny01:
These are private businesses, you can't force them to do more infrastructure. They will welcome anyone who will do it for them. In fact, NIPP did it before they went private. The Nigerian Rural Electrification Agency still do it. Local governments and even state governments do it. Infact, individuals do it. The DISCOs only do it when there is a huge revenue potential.

NERC only regulates them but to a limit. NERC always budge under pressure from the DISCOs. This infrastructure problem is just a tip of the iceberg, the problems are far many.

NBC abi na NCC couldn't force DSTV to implement Pay-per-view, its the same here.

For the fact that we don't produce the electricity equipment, relying on import is another huge problem. We import as little as wires, we also get to import transformers. All these depends on foreign exchange so you can imagine how a transformer that was N1m some years ago is N2m now.
If NERC is truly committed to their role as a regulatory commission, they should be able to mitigate these problems. It is not entirely hopeless.

You sound very informed about the sector. How is that so?
Re: Four West African Countries To Buy Nigeria’s Idle Electricity by adanny01(m): 12:31pm On Jun 13, 2021
dochenaj:
If NERC is truly committed to their role as a regulatory commission, they should be able to mitigate these problems. It is not entirely hopeless.

You sound very informed about the sector. How is that so?

Nah, NERC can't do nada. The bulk of the problem is not even the infrastructure, it is we Nigerians that sabotage it in every corner.

NERC sabotage it by not formulating right policies or buckle under pressure from DISCOs.

DISCOs sabotage it when they intentionally refuse to meter customers choosing to use estimated overbilling to cover their own revenue lapses.

Electricity workers also do their sabotage by being inexperienced and doing sharp practices. I know a transformer that got burnt because any time the fuse gets burnt, the so called NEPA staff cuts a wire from the exposed earth wire to fix as fuse. They did that till there was no earth wire and the transformer gave up. That same community had over 1000 houses, but the registered accounts with the DISCO is 250. This means the bill from 750 houses end up in private pockets and the bill for 1000 houses is shared into 250 houses. Meanwhile the transformer is overloaded but the DISCO cannot officially know or do anything about it.

Customers also partake in the sabotage buy illegal connections, stealing electricity, not paying the bills etc

In all, we are all Nigerians in these capacities, in our individual ways, we are sabotaging electricity supply to ourselves.
Re: Four West African Countries To Buy Nigeria’s Idle Electricity by adanny01(m): 12:36pm On Jun 13, 2021
dochenaj:
This post is so saddening that it is should make any sane Nigerian cry.

In my area in Lagos, I can barely boast of 5 hours of power daily for the past few months but yet we have unutilized power to sell to neighboring countries.

We sell electricity to generate foreign revenue but we don't have electricity to promote industrialization that will revamp our economy in it's entirety.

Is this not madness?

Funny enough, we sell to these neighbors and they end up have very stable supply.

The difference is that even as little as they have in infrastructure, it is adequate from the few that can afford it.
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