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Re: Only South West Has Properly Managed Its Diversity, Says Jonathan by abbey621(m): 10:20pm On Jun 23, 2021
codemaniacs:


Africans that travel to Europe legally are highly educated. Majority of immigrants in E:urope are highly educated.

Using this comment of yours you have answered yourself.

When you argue you have to consider what we call mathematical average, can you define highly educated? Because in the 90s, WAEC was good enough, in the early 2000s , Bachelor's degree was good enough but nowadays even with your Masters you are considered just educated and not highly educated. The competition has gone beyond what most of us who migrate from Africa can phantom, for example in my field, you're not taken seriously even with your Masters, you need certifications upon certifications and some reputable companies on your CV/Resume.

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Re: Only South West Has Properly Managed Its Diversity, Says Jonathan by codemaniacs: 10:24pm On Jun 23, 2021
HEAVEN4444:
You have to understand that diversity is great. the biggest economies in the world are full of diverse people. new york, london etc. of course there will be losers which is part of the indigenous populations who are poor but you have to understand that all these people bring the wealth from their region to the SW too. look at dangote ? built the biggest world refinery in the SW, look at the guy who owns landmark ? got a loan of 100 million dollars and came to build it in SW, etc etc and so these people bring their brightest and rich people to SW and this moneys goes to the coffers of the SW government when their businesses are taxed etc. thats why the SW is prosperous. people who dont diversify are poor because they are left with only their local population and no one is bringing new moneys into the place. so we take the good with the bad. e money comes to blow all his money in the SW, burna boy, timaya etc all spend their money in the SW. it is these money that are in circulation.

You're wrong.

They make their riches from Yorubas patronizing their businesses, same with D:angote.

The good thing is some of the money they make stay in the SW.

Yorubas have the highest purchasing power and consumers in Nigeria.

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Re: Only South West Has Properly Managed Its Diversity, Says Jonathan by Agbegbaorogboye: 10:25pm On Jun 23, 2021
thebosstrevor1:


You can live in a country and be homogeneous

Spain, russia, Belgium, Switzerland are all doing it.

Countries or region within a country

Spain is a bad example. The Catalonians want out.
Russia too. They're what's left of USSR
Belgium is homogeneous in the sense you put it.
Switzerland could be such a good fit. But they tend towards the restructuring being peddled.
Re: Only South West Has Properly Managed Its Diversity, Says Jonathan by codemaniacs: 10:28pm On Jun 23, 2021
abbey621:


When you argue you have to consider what we call mathematical average, can you define highly educated? Because in the 90s, WAEC was good enough, in the early 2000s , Bachelor's degree was good enough but nowadays even with your Masters you are considered just educated and not highly educated. The competition has gone beyond what most of us who migrate from Africa can phantom, for example in my field, you're not taken seriously even with your Masters, you need certifications upon certifications and some reputable companies on your CV/Resume.

Now you're beating around the bush... It's of no use to continue replying you.
Re: Only South West Has Properly Managed Its Diversity, Says Jonathan by Agbegbaorogboye: 10:29pm On Jun 23, 2021
Crofton:


This is impossible, each ethnic group in Nigeria can't have a country .

There is Homogeneity of ideology, maybe it should not always be about ethnic group or religious affiliation, but the general accepted ideology of the people or group can determine if they can co-exist .

For instance, the Hausa-fulani have become so culturally entangled that they have similar political and religious ideology sufficient enough for them to co-exist without tensions and distrust despite Nnamdi Kanu's recent attempts at division .

Why not? Nigeria is bigger than Western Europe.
Borno is bigger than Belgium.
SE is the size of UK?
What exactly do you mean by "homogeneity of ideology"? Hausa-Fulani are bound together by religion more than culture. Hausas are predominantly farmers while fulani are herders.
Also, Fulani are more or less colonial masters to Hausas.
They have been able to subsume themselves into Hausa society just like the Afrikaans in South Africa

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Re: Only South West Has Properly Managed Its Diversity, Says Jonathan by naijaking1: 10:32pm On Jun 23, 2021
GEJ is the Adaka Boro president who grew up on Diette Spiff misinformation about Igbos. Despite his education and common sense realities, he thought Chief Clark was the only eastern leader he could trust for basic advice--- we know how it ended.
Ekwueme lamented that it took the fear of being defeated by Buhari to make GEJ even acknowledge his presence.
A dimwit is always a dimwit whether he is in Aso Rock or not.
Re: Only South West Has Properly Managed Its Diversity, Says Jonathan by abbey621(m): 10:32pm On Jun 23, 2021
codemaniacs:


Now you're beating around the bush... It's of no use to continue replying you.

Better grin grin grin
Re: Only South West Has Properly Managed Its Diversity, Says Jonathan by melzabull(f): 10:33pm On Jun 23, 2021
greatiyk4u:


Explain what?

No other religion apart from christianity mostly catholic, Anglican, orthodox is given freedom of free practice in Igbo land.
shut up

Traditionalists is the second largest religion in the south east and no one gives a damn about the adherents including those who believe in marine world

Just in case it's islam you have in mind, we abhor islam and there's no way we're allowing it to thrive in any part of igbo land. Every other religion is welcime

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Re: Only South West Has Properly Managed Its Diversity, Says Jonathan by RichBoy247: 10:34pm On Jun 23, 2021
thebosstrevor1:
If they praise you for your ethnic diversity know that one day, they are coming to take what is yours.

Diversity is a killer and a stealer. What diversity does is to take the opportunity meant for natives and give it to non indigenes, then you and non natives start fighting for resources and opportunities in your own land leading to ethnic tensions.

Those that praise the south west for diversity will never allow it in their land, go to their universities and ministries, only natives works there.

They preach diversity when they want to take what is meant for you and then preach you are not from here when you go to their own land to seek opportunity.


Olori pelebe, what are you doing in South West Universities and Ministries? Dey don banish you for your backward village?
Re: Only South West Has Properly Managed Its Diversity, Says Jonathan by LegalWolf: 10:36pm On Jun 23, 2021
thebosstrevor1:
If they praise you for your ethnic diversity know that one day, they are coming to take what is yours.

Diversity is a killer and a stealer. What diversity does is to take the opportunity meant for natives and give it to non indigenes, then you and non natives start fighting for resources and opportunities in your own land leading to ethnic tensions.

Those that praise the south west for diversity will never allow it in their land, go to their universities and ministries, only natives works there.

They preach diversity when they want to take what is meant for you and then preach you are not from here when you go to their own land to seek opportunity.


This is whack mentality. Without immigration, United States can NEVER be were it is today. Diversity is a good thing and those countries open to immigration have benefitted tremendously from it.


In fact, many of you don’t know history. The concept of ethnicity was extremely fluid in the olden days. Many Yorubas in South West are actually of Hausa/Kanuri ancestry. Same thing for some people in Kano and other areas. In fact, history has it that royal family of ogbomosho are Baruba (an ethnic group with members in kwara, niger and Kebbi) and that of Lagos are of Bini ancestry. In ilorin, so many ethnic groups have melted in that community and they see themselves as one. And in the long run, it has paid them. Please don’t push this agenda that diversity is bad. It is not in so far as it not poorly managed.
Re: Only South West Has Properly Managed Its Diversity, Says Jonathan by melzabull(f): 10:37pm On Jun 23, 2021
femixx:


That is where you veered off the lane of reason, Yoruba identity not strong? angry Do not repeat that line again for sanity sake.
he is very correct

Yurobas particular yereba muslims will pick his islamic religion ahead if his yereba tribe
Re: Only South West Has Properly Managed Its Diversity, Says Jonathan by IgboEmir001: 10:39pm On Jun 23, 2021
Ogogoro president!
Re: Only South West Has Properly Managed Its Diversity, Says Jonathan by NOETHNICITY(m): 10:40pm On Jun 23, 2021
thebosstrevor1:


Diversity does not bring any peace.

It brings competition for scared resources, ethnic tension, high crime rate, cultural shock and enmity.

If you know you know.

Yeah, there are advantages but the disadvantages is more than the advantage.

Countries where diversity is preached have lot of racial tension and discrimination.
Where are you from, sir?
Re: Only South West Has Properly Managed Its Diversity, Says Jonathan by Boudiccao: 10:40pm On Jun 23, 2021
candidtalk:


Lol. Someone is in pain. Are you going to deny that Igbos are hateful, tribalistic and highly intolerant?

Or you want me to dig up the thread where Igbos encouraged Jonathan, after he became substantive President, to be mean to Yorubas, "punish" them and scheme them out of relevance?

I deliberately mentioned IPOB because hate never allows you Igbos to grow or let go of your dislike for others.

Jonathan you so much wanted to be your 'koboko' to whip the Yorubas is now the one actually praising the Yorubas as exemplary and an ethnic group the entire Nigeria should take lessons from.

I am 100% sure Jonathan now regrets his dalliance with the hateful Igbos, like Stella Oduah etal, who made him become the enemies of the Yorubas he is praising today.


See the shame and disgrace of Igbos in the link below yourself to know it would not kill you Igbos, if you have any decency in you at all, to apologize for your awful ways and try to make amends.

https://www.nairaland.com/745731/yoruba-marginalization-elders-met-jonathan



candidtalk:


Lol. Someone is in pain. Are you going to deny that Igbos are hateful, tribalistic and highly intolerant?

Or you want me to dig up the thread where Igbos encouraged Jonathan, after he became substantive President, to be mean to Yorubas, "punish" them and scheme them out of relevance?

I deliberately mentioned IPOB because hate never allows you Igbos to grow or let go of your dislike for others.

Jonathan you so much wanted to be your 'koboko' to whip the Yorubas is now the one actually praising the Yorubas as exemplary and an ethnic group the entire Nigeria should take lessons from.

See the shame and disgrace of Igbos in the link below yourself to know it would not kill you Igbos, if you have any decency in you at all, to apologize for your awful ways and try to make amends.

https://www.nairaland.com/745731/yoruba-marginalization-elders-met-jonathan



I didn't expect you to be civil. I asked a question and got endless diatribe, aggressiveness and childish rants.
What you are regurgitating is totally off point. Jonathan praised the Yorubas for managing it's regional diversity, religion and development wise and the first thing you and rest did was was to drag Igbos that had no similar experience with dealing with regional diversity because that is absent in the East.
It's pure false equivalence.
By trying to blackmail the East,you ironically demonstrated that you are hateful, bigoted and prejudiced against Igbos who have absolutely nothing to do with Jonathan and his praises for Yorubas.

Sorry, the thread you dung out has nothing to do with this topic too. Jonathan praised Yorubas and if the first thing you thought of was to condemn Igbos instead of other regions that can't manage their regional diversity than you are foolish and Nigeria has a long way to go with bitter and resentful people like you. Shameful.

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Re: Only South West Has Properly Managed Its Diversity, Says Jonathan by NOETHNICITY(m): 10:45pm On Jun 23, 2021
melzabull:
shut up

Traditionalists is the second largest religion in the south east and no one gives a damn about the adherents including those who believe in marine world

Just in case it's islam you have in mind, we abhor islam and there's no way we're allowing it to thrive in any part of igbo land. Every other religion is welcime
just imagine how you brag about religious intolerance
What's the difference between you and alkaeda peeps

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Re: Only South West Has Properly Managed Its Diversity, Says Jonathan by Boudiccao: 10:47pm On Jun 23, 2021
PeachtreeReside:
I can't stop laughing at the comments though....


Is there one thing you tribal e-warriors would agree on ??




These hatred you keep bantering is leading to bad blood offline .....




The Igbos can't stand when the South Western are praised.

The Yorubas too are waiting to yap the South Easterns when they have negative news .



Can't we stop these childishness


Your.kids will ask you what you were doing when your mates were collaborating on wealth making.



Your search will come.up with fighting e-wars and e-battles that didn't translate to any major achievements.


Kids, stop these churlish behaviour already.

On this thread, Igbos didn't say a word about what Jonathan said but Yorubas already started off their post by insulting Igbos. It has always been like this on nairaland. Igbos would want to keep away from what doesn't put food on their table but be sure to find an idiot mentioning them.

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Re: Only South West Has Properly Managed Its Diversity, Says Jonathan by melzabull(f): 11:02pm On Jun 23, 2021
NOETHNICITY:
just imagine how you brag about religious intolerance
What's the difference between you and alkaeda peeps
please keep quiet if you have nothing reasonable to say. If anyone brags with intolerance, its the people of religion of piss that urges their followers to behead non believers or infidels as they call them, tell me why is would want to relate with such religion

Now miss me with your Bu.llshit...dont quote me again
Re: Only South West Has Properly Managed Its Diversity, Says Jonathan by SyrusdeHansome(m): 11:03pm On Jun 23, 2021
nzeobi:
The SW is divided roughly between the two major religions so none can actually bully or intimidate the other.

Most regions in the south are tolerant, in the East Catholics and non Catholics are treated equally too


Is Catholic now a religion?
Re: Only South West Has Properly Managed Its Diversity, Says Jonathan by Nobody: 11:09pm On Jun 23, 2021
Boudiccao:


On this thread, Igbos didn't say a word about what Jonathan said but Yorubas already started off their post by insulting Igbos. It has always been like this on nairaland. Igbos would want to keep away from what doesn't put food on their table but be sure to find an idiot mentioning them.

Abeg shut up and stop playing victim. If you leave the Yorubas alone, rather than try and denigrate them daily before the world, then the Yorubas would not have your time.

As GEJ surmised, Yorubas are religiously and ethnically tolerant. We have no time to hate, undermine or sabotage anyone. Such is not in our nature and that is why you do well in our land yet you can never be gracious towards your host be it in Lagos, Accra, Joburg or Nairobi.

What we don't appreciate is ingrate behaviour most especially from Igbos we accommodate and elevate in our land only to be paid back with enmity and nonstop bad belle.

Trust me, my behaviour here is deliberate. It is to teach Igbos the offensiveness of what you do to others by giving you a dose of your own hateful medicine.

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Re: Only South West Has Properly Managed Its Diversity, Says Jonathan by Aduroja123(m): 11:11pm On Jun 23, 2021
afroniger:


https://punchng.com/only-south-west-has-properly-managed-its-diversity-says-jonathan/

This aptly buttressed by display of the TOGETHERNESS character by the Youths in Lagos during the last year's #EndSars protest.

And that is the reason why that it is the only the Yorubas that are still the accommodating tribe of all the major tribes we have in Nigeria.


Thanks to baba Awolowo who took upon himself the duty in ensuring FREE EDUCATION for all in his lifetime if not we wouldn't have been accommodating as we are now.

Selah!
Re: Only South West Has Properly Managed Its Diversity, Says Jonathan by Naajjii: 11:13pm On Jun 23, 2021
nzeobi:
The SW is divided roughly between the two major religions so none can actually bully or intimidate the other.

Most regions in the south are tolerant, in the East Catholics and non Catholics are treated equally too
Dont even bring east here, the east is one of the most intolerant region in africa i guess its due to the OSU caste culture, you people hate Muslims, is that how the west hate muslims? Look at what you people are doing to the few Igbo muslims.

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Re: Only South West Has Properly Managed Its Diversity, Says Jonathan by johntolu: 11:26pm On Jun 23, 2021
thebosstrevor1:


We are all diverse but there is what is called identity.

In the north, there are different tribes but we know our identity is Hausa or fulani etc and we protect that identity.

Likewise in yoruba land, their are different tribes but the identity is Yoruba.

Protecting your people and making sure they get opportunities is called self preservation, your people first before others, if you don't do that, in due time either your people go hungry and die off or they get wiped out by stronger tribes.

You are wise.

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Re: Only South West Has Properly Managed Its Diversity, Says Jonathan by ifadamilare: 11:31pm On Jun 23, 2021
Re: Only South West Has Properly Managed Its Diversity, Says Jonathan by Nobody: 11:35pm On Jun 23, 2021
Naajjii:

Dont even bring east here, the east is one of the most intolerant region in africa i guess its due to the OSU caste culture, you people hate Muslims, is that how the west hate muslims? Look at what you people are doing to the few Igbo muslims.

Anybody who uses nairaland for reference would have no problem concluding Igbos are egotistical and pathological liars with the way blatant lies just roll off their tongues.

The Igbos, over 7 decades, have never evolved or gotten better as a people because they can never admit the truth to themselves about what is wrong with their own orientation, mindset and attitudinal obsession with hating and blaming others for everything.

Imagine Igbos now trying to paint themselves as tolerant just because they can't accept that GEJ praised Yorubas as exemplarily tolerant.

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Re: Only South West Has Properly Managed Its Diversity, Says Jonathan by ifadamilare: 11:36pm On Jun 23, 2021
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Re: Only South West Has Properly Managed Its Diversity, Says Jonathan by Boudiccao: 11:36pm On Jun 23, 2021
candidtalk:


Abeg shut up and stop playing victim. If you leave the Yorubas alone, rather than try and denigrate them daily before the world, then the Yorubas would not have your time.

As GEJ surmised, Yorubas are religiously and ethnically tolerant. We have no time to hate, undermine or sabotage anyone. Such is not in our nature and that is why you do well in our land yet you can never be gracious towards your host be it in Lagos, Accra, Joburg or Nairobi.

What we don't appreciate is ingrate behaviour most especially from Igbos we accommodate and elevate in our land only to be paid back with enmity and nonstop bad belle.

Trust me, my behaviour here is deliberate. It is to teach Igbos the offensiveness of what you do to others by giving you a dose of your own hateful medicine.


Trust me Igbos in the South West, buy lands, build/invest and pay tax to the Govt. They are neither riding on your backs nor getting anything from you free of charge so spare me that accommodation nonesense.
Nigerians are all over the world doing well yet those Nations are yet to rant the way you all keep rambling about accommodation. You did not contribute any shit to lgbos.
Just the way Igbos are in the SW, there are also Yorubas that have made a home and living in the East but how would you know because you peddle falsehood in under to undermine Igbos. Cut me that crap.
I honestly don't care whether your actions are deliberate or not, I just saw through that false equivalence wrapped in anger and bigotry. Save this nonesense for later.

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Re: Only South West Has Properly Managed Its Diversity, Says Jonathan by Boudiccao: 11:43pm On Jun 23, 2021
Naajjii:

Dont even bring east here, the east is one of the most intolerant region in africa i guess its due to the OSU caste culture, you people hate Muslims, is that how the west hate muslims? Look at what you people are doing to the few Igbo muslims.

Can you back up this claim that Igbos are religious intolerant in line with the religious intolerance obtainable with Muslims in the North?
Osu caste is not a form of diversity,it is a socio religious cult and it's no longer widespread. I don't even owe you any explanation on this.
Igbo Muslims are few and far in between and have always Co existed with Christianity. The Daily post Newspaper pushing that false news about Igbos maltreatment Muslims is on a propaganda to blackmail and arm twist Igbos. If you are sensitive, you will understand what is going on.

I noticed you only have nothing but negative words and statements about Igbos yet Igbos have nothing to do with you on a regular.

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Re: Only South West Has Properly Managed Its Diversity, Says Jonathan by theFilmtric: 11:44pm On Jun 23, 2021
AchalugoNwa:
Mynd44 lalasticlala Seun

Rule 2
That is not an insult on any tribe


Stop spamming with your fake reports undecided
Re: Only South West Has Properly Managed Its Diversity, Says Jonathan by Boudiccao: 11:49pm On Jun 23, 2021
candidtalk:


Anybody who uses nairaland for reference would have no problem concluding Igbos are egotistical and pathological liars with the way blatant lies just roll off their tongues.

The Igbos, over 7 decades, have never evolved or gotten better as a people because they can never admit the truth to themselves about what is wrong with their own orientation, mindset and attitudinal obsession with hating and blaming others for everything.

Imagine Igbos now trying to paint themselves as tolerant just because they can't accept that GEJ praised Yorubas as exemplarily tolerant.

Yet it was you and your kind that started off dragging Igbos into the thread right from the front page.
You do something this shameful and turn around to apportion blames on Igbos. Choke on your hatred and obsession.

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Re: Only South West Has Properly Managed Its Diversity, Says Jonathan by GeneralPula: 11:56pm On Jun 23, 2021
ntyce:


That's not true..

Look at what advanced countries like Canada and USA did through diversity lottery..

Diversity brings about development, it opens your heart and mind to varieties.

And as they say, variety is the spice of life

Every state in USA Today were once a country before they united together..

So what’s the USA diversity you’re referring to?
Re: Only South West Has Properly Managed Its Diversity, Says Jonathan by Jonathan39: 11:58pm On Jun 23, 2021
We don't want the religion of Terrorist in our region.
BosseJ:
GEJ is spot on. He's not saying Yorubas are perfect but just that they have succeeded the best out of other regions to manage their diversity to foster relative peace, harmony, and development. Other sections of the country can study and learn their success formula.

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Re: Only South West Has Properly Managed Its Diversity, Says Jonathan by HEAVEN4444: 11:59pm On Jun 23, 2021
codemaniacs:


You're wrong.

They make their riches from Yorubas patronizing their businesses, same with D:angote.

The good thing is some of the money they make stay in the SW.

Yorubas have the highest purchasing power and consumers in Nigeria.


you dont get it. in the future when they decentralise the economics of the country and every region has a functioning port and the others can now do their own business from their region and dont have to pay all the duties from using lagos port, you will then get to see that there is not so much money in lagos. also when they open international airports in all the regions. what lagos is enjoying is people from other regions doing business through lagos. anything they bring into their region comes through lagos, and anyone who is travelling goes though lagos and so lots of business as they lodge in hotels overnight and pay for services etc etc etc. my point being when everything is decentralised everywhere will be like lagos. its not like people in the southwest are richer. its just that the southwest is blessed to have all the functioning ports and airports and so its the viable place to do business. also dangote businesses are throughout africa but his base is lagos and so all that moneys from all over the world he brings to lagos etc etc etc. its many ways money is trickling in from outside. i personally think they neeed to decentralise the whole thing because you cant operate the whole country through one tiny place called lagos. its getting too crowded and unbearable

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