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Re: Sacked Pastors: Winners Chapel Is In Order - Reno Omokri by Lifestone(m): 6:24am On Jul 19, 2021 |
Aboguede:Look at another confused mind, simply because I do not share your opinion, you became abusive, the only defense for a lazy man like the Pastor |
Re: Sacked Pastors: Winners Chapel Is In Order - Reno Omokri by Commentor: 6:25am On Jul 19, 2021 |
Lifestone: And some mumus would accept this statement. |
Re: Sacked Pastors: Winners Chapel Is In Order - Reno Omokri by Bukden16(m): 6:27am On Jul 19, 2021 |
phemmyfour: Yeah I kinda understand. Growing population equals to rise in Capita... I might be wrong sha 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Sacked Pastors: Winners Chapel Is In Order - Reno Omokri by Humanoid01(m): 6:30am On Jul 19, 2021 |
Lifestone:If he was employed by the church, then it insinuates that it was sanctioned by God. God is not “denominational” , so He's not primarily concerned with the number of people who attend a particular church denomination. What He cares about is how you tend the flock available to you. It is not narrowed to a particular denomination, you can have a flock outside the corners of a building. The work of God is multidimensional. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Sacked Pastors: Winners Chapel Is In Order - Reno Omokri by sleemomymy: 6:32am On Jul 19, 2021 |
advanceDNA:BE SINCERE TO YOURSELF BRO....... 1 Like |
Re: Sacked Pastors: Winners Chapel Is In Order - Reno Omokri by Jman06(m): 6:34am On Jul 19, 2021 |
No wonder the living faith pastors in my area have intensified sharing of fliers inviting new members. They can only deceive gullible Nigerians, not me! Any day I see myself in any penteRascals church, then I'll know that it is finished! 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Sacked Pastors: Winners Chapel Is In Order - Reno Omokri by BinamRex: 6:35am On Jul 19, 2021 |
Lifestone: Haven't you ever heard a pastor said, "Visit our church or any Bible-believing church? Do you know why they say this? They know that they are not competing with other churches for members. This is because all churches win souls for the kingdom. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Sacked Pastors: Winners Chapel Is In Order - Reno Omokri by Sterope(f): 6:37am On Jul 19, 2021 |
Aren't we at the end time? It shouldn't be surprising if people aren't turning out for church? 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Sacked Pastors: Winners Chapel Is In Order - Reno Omokri by Lifestone(m): 6:41am On Jul 19, 2021 |
Humanoid01:Then how do you measure his performance. Read the account of Jesus parable of the talent. Christ expect you to be productive and teaches that there are consequent for non performance |
Re: Sacked Pastors: Winners Chapel Is In Order - Reno Omokri by emapeteum(m): 6:44am On Jul 19, 2021 |
Church growth is not just numbers.Does Oyedepo has the right to sack pastors who are willing to serve God?Is Oyedepo the owner of the Church or Christ? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Sacked Pastors: Winners Chapel Is In Order - Reno Omokri by Lifestone(m): 6:44am On Jul 19, 2021 |
BinamRex:So he does not need a church to do that. But you are paid to preach the gospel and win soul, find a way to show your fruits. It's called accountability 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Sacked Pastors: Winners Chapel Is In Order - Reno Omokri by Patfavour: 6:46am On Jul 19, 2021 |
U think these pastors will seat down in their respective parish without pursuing growth? There is more to this. The church is not telling us d truth |
Re: Sacked Pastors: Winners Chapel Is In Order - Reno Omokri by MemoriesAndMe: 6:47am On Jul 19, 2021 |
Lifestone:We all saw the letter and nothing was stated about winning of souls. The letter simply said the pastors did not meet their growth index in its performance reviews, thats same thing companies tell employees that cant bring in new accounts and deals for them. How is it a pastors fault if people refused to come to church or donate? Hes expected to force them? Hasn't the pandemic affected everyone enough, including churches? Read the letter here and point out where its stated that they're fired for not winning souls like you have twisted the reason for the sack. https://punchng.com/winners-chapel-sacked-me-for-failing-to-generate-enough-income-pastor/ |
Re: Sacked Pastors: Winners Chapel Is In Order - Reno Omokri by Humanoid01(m): 6:48am On Jul 19, 2021 |
Lifestone:That's the point I'm making. You don't measure performance strictly based on the number of persons that attend your local church. Your spiritual impact GENERALLY in the lives of people is what counts because ultimately, God is the employer, and we are His employees. You don't know the seeds that the said pastor has sown in the lives of others, even though they don't fellowship with Him. These are the things that God looks at, amongst so many others. 2 Likes |
Re: Sacked Pastors: Winners Chapel Is In Order - Reno Omokri by Lifestone(m): 6:50am On Jul 19, 2021 |
MemoriesAndMe:Bro read that letter slowly again. |
Re: Sacked Pastors: Winners Chapel Is In Order - Reno Omokri by BigRocky: 6:50am On Jul 19, 2021 |
A man can only sack a pastor if the pastor was called(employed) by the same man.. A man called by God cannot by sack..no matter how slow his growth is . God is a God of timing and increase the church of his servant as is own appointed time. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Sacked Pastors: Winners Chapel Is In Order - Reno Omokri by Humanoid01(m): 6:51am On Jul 19, 2021 |
BigRocky:Say no more sir, because you have said it all. 1 Like |
Re: Sacked Pastors: Winners Chapel Is In Order - Reno Omokri by berbs: 6:51am On Jul 19, 2021 |
Reno's head is not correct. |
Re: Sacked Pastors: Winners Chapel Is In Order - Reno Omokri by lexy2014: 6:53am On Jul 19, 2021 |
Lifestone: How is he prejudiced? Can u negate d biblical angle he gave? Should d content of d letter supersede biblical principles on d matter? What is d church? Is it a denomination built by a man? 1 Like |
Re: Sacked Pastors: Winners Chapel Is In Order - Reno Omokri by Onepeople: 6:53am On Jul 19, 2021 |
Lifestone:he can be redeployed into other departments in the church, I don't want to believe that this was how it happened, what happened to payment of benefits and other entitlements? Reno can quote any part of the bible to back up this nonsense, but definitely wrong in strata of human endeavour, I am a fan oyedepo,but is not right. |
Re: Sacked Pastors: Winners Chapel Is In Order - Reno Omokri by vickydevoka(m): 6:54am On Jul 19, 2021 |
Pauladex:What are you saying. No vex me o. Wic one be time giving to him. Na marketing company. Anglican and catholic churches can sack u like dis |
Re: Sacked Pastors: Winners Chapel Is In Order - Reno Omokri by Acidosis(m): 6:54am On Jul 19, 2021 |
Lifestone: Changing the leadership of the church won't mess up another church. Sometimes, a church may not grow for different reasons other than the pastor's incompetence. Don't compare this with politics. Church growth is more of 20% man-made strategy, the remainder (80%) na God hand e dey. In politics, you can force a contractor to build a school. In church, you can't force anyone to church, not even your own family. You can transfer the pastor of the church to go and serve under or with another pastor in an established church. You only fire someone you called. If you believe that God called your pastor, then you have no right to dismiss them unless, like I stated, three are genuine reasons to do so (may be fraud, etc.). 1 Like |
Re: Sacked Pastors: Winners Chapel Is In Order - Reno Omokri by dazzlingd(m): 6:55am On Jul 19, 2021 |
Lifestone: I'm sure oyedepo got query from heaven's gate keepers that those pastors were not churning in enough souls, so he did the needful |
Re: Sacked Pastors: Winners Chapel Is In Order - Reno Omokri by michael1508: 6:55am On Jul 19, 2021 |
advanceDNA:Of course,how much do you expect...it's this 100 and 200 in thousand folds that makes it a big deal,from a business point of view,a pure water sachet goes for #20 but a pure water factory knows how much profit they make when they calculate how much turn over they generated by selling to large numbers of people,my take on your assertion of donating small amount of money by an individual. |
Re: Sacked Pastors: Winners Chapel Is In Order - Reno Omokri by vickydevoka(m): 6:56am On Jul 19, 2021 |
dahunsi12:In this situation if u Marry slay queen sorry, if u de do fine boy another sorry, bcus una go de beg de go. Una no go fit do dirty jobs |
Re: Sacked Pastors: Winners Chapel Is In Order - Reno Omokri by Lifestone(m): 6:56am On Jul 19, 2021 |
Humanoid01:The point is that most people like him sees the job as a career. He didn't handle his disappointment very well. He has done more damage to the church with this foolish indiscretion. That's my anger. 2 Likes |
Re: Sacked Pastors: Winners Chapel Is In Order - Reno Omokri by K4daniel: 6:56am On Jul 19, 2021 |
It's simple the Bible in Act 1 v 8 says ye shall receive power after the holy ghost shall come on you and ye shall be my witness in Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria and the uttermost part of the world. If members are winning souls to the kingdom of God and depopulating hell I can't imagine what a pastor of a branch will be doing.Do you know the joy in heaven when a soul is save. But people look at money as their base..the man you're talking is rich. Living faith is not a church for lazy pastors, not a church you can be drinking coffee in the morning and wasting time and resources meant for bringing souls to the kingdom. God is interested in soul winning and confirms it when he says at the repentance of souls on earth there are joys in heaven. when a soul repents on earth brings joys in Heaven..may God help this generation. Besides most of this deployment and postings are done by another group of pastors in different units of the church charged with the monitoring of activities of branches in line with Gods agenda, not directly bishop oyedepo, the bishop does not have time for all the things he delegates. He is focused on his core vision and mandate. 2 Likes |
Re: Sacked Pastors: Winners Chapel Is In Order - Reno Omokri by MemoriesAndMe: 6:57am On Jul 19, 2021 |
Lifestone:I read it very well. I also read the comment from one of the affected pastors that said he called to get some clarification and he was told that the church needs revenue to operate and can't operate at a loss. How is it his fault? I bet he wouldn't have been affected if his church members were fraudsters, kidnappers, drug dealers etc that are able to donate more than enough. Thats totally far from the salvation churches are meant for. Haven't we all seen how many of these churches want branches in Abuja, PH, Lagos etc and barely think of remote places where financially struggling villagers are? Would they fire pastors there too if they can't meet the said index? Dont most of the prefer areas where profit is certain versus areas where the inhabitants are eager to worship, as they don't want to operate at a loss. 2 Likes |
Re: Sacked Pastors: Winners Chapel Is In Order - Reno Omokri by Lifestone(m): 6:58am On Jul 19, 2021 |
dazzlingd:Lets wait till judgement day to find out, but today Oyedepo has properly handled an unfruitful branch Pastor 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Sacked Pastors: Winners Chapel Is In Order - Reno Omokri by boxypane(m): 6:58am On Jul 19, 2021 |
MemoriesAndMe:My bros, I think you should take a read on the letter again. It must not be spelt out just the way want it sir. |
Re: Sacked Pastors: Winners Chapel Is In Order - Reno Omokri by vickydevoka(m): 6:59am On Jul 19, 2021 |
dahunsi12:In this situation if u Marry slay queen sorry, if u de do fine boy another sorry, bcus una go de beg de go. Una no go fit do dirty jobs. Do u know some Women clean houses for 50k and above every month. Do u know conductor as n drivers even Keke driver makes more than 50k every month. Ask urself how long will u keep begging. If it brother or friends gives u 5k or 10k this month, before he gives u another it will be next 6 month and above. So my brother ur own na ur own |
Re: Sacked Pastors: Winners Chapel Is In Order - Reno Omokri by Lifestone(m): 7:00am On Jul 19, 2021 |
lexy2014:You missed my point Why not hold the Pastor accountable? |
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