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Re: Itsekiris And Igbo Slaves by gregyboy(m): 8:00pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
Ariani: They ika were already under bini rule which would make it easier for benin invaders ti cross to the core east without resistance but even with assitance |
Re: Itsekiris And Igbo Slaves by RoyalUc(m): 9:17pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
Ariani: You are just one bitter soul! Since when is it a crime to uphold and defend your identity and cultural heritage? That the Ika or Ukwani/Ndokwa refused to be lumped into your tribe is too big a deal for you to handle. The Ndokwa Ukwani people for instance are warriors. They've never been defeated and captured by any tribe. As a matter of fact, they fought off any invader, made slaves of people, and even captured and killed Whitemen who ventured into their land (funny enough, till today, church folks still attribute the level of backwardness in that region to the killings, bloodshed and charms done by their ancestors). Till today, they still have the mentality of resisting external influences, including 'western' development. It might interest you to know that the word for slaves known as 'osu' in your tribe is 'Igbo' in Ndokwa Ukwani. |
Re: Itsekiris And Igbo Slaves by Ariani: 9:33pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
RoyalUc: You are obviously not okay upstairs. What has Osu to do with slaves? Osu doesn't mean slave. Empty Head. Slave in Igbo is Odibo. There is also Ohu/Oru. Stop embarrassing yourself. Which bitterness do you speak of? Taa gbafuo! Any human with brain cells know that Reno is referring to Ukwuani Ndokwa and Ika people. They are the ones with extensive interactions with Bini and Itsekiris. Ndiigbo would rather Reno come out clean and stop roping us into something we know nothing about. Who cares about whatever slavish origin you uphold? Ara agbakwana gi! How many Igbos send you lots? Go settle your slavish relationship with Binis and Itsekiris and leave Ndiigbo out of your mess. We don't know you. Get a grip of yourselves. 2 Likes |
Re: Itsekiris And Igbo Slaves by Ariani: 9:36pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
gregyboy: We don't have such history in the East. Lol! Infact when you are talking cock and bull stories in Igboland, we say : Ona ako akuko "Idu na Oba" . Meaning he is telling stories of Oba and Bini. That's how we know Bini and all linked with it. Don't flatter yourselves. In recent times, akuko "Idu na Oba" has been replaced with "Akuko Mike ejeagha" in Igboland to represent cock and bull stories. 1 Like |
Re: Itsekiris And Igbo Slaves by iSlayer: 9:36pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
[s] RoyalUc:[/s] Capital thrash. You are a slave to Bini. Tweh. |
Re: Itsekiris And Igbo Slaves by Nobody: 9:36pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
LegendHero: Legend you are out for blood today. You see ehn maybe all these South South tribes are aware of igbo dark past, that's why they are avoiding them. |
Re: Itsekiris And Igbo Slaves by Ariani: 9:38pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
iSlayer:Shameless slaves that Reno mischievously refused to mention and rather chose to write them as *****. Ndi Uchu! |
Re: Itsekiris And Igbo Slaves by BKayy: 9:41pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
gregyboy:Who is Olivia Acquino? 1 Like |
Re: Itsekiris And Igbo Slaves by RoyalUc(m): 9:43pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
Ariani: Typical of you people! Ignorant yet boastful! So, there is nothing like the osu caste system in igbo land? Reno may be referring to the Igbankes, (which obviously, you don't even know about) and the Ikas, but not even the Ogwashi ukwus, Nsukwa people, etc |
Re: Itsekiris And Igbo Slaves by iSlayer: 9:44pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
I think the Ika/Ukwuani/Ikwerre/Ogba are the only tribes in the whole of subsaharan Africa to still claim their slave masters. Every other African tribe deposed their slave masters and forged ahead with their real identity. The Ika/Ukwuani/Ikwerre/Ogba remained slaves after the end of serfdom officially. As it is said "it is only an animal (or a slave) that answers to the name (bears the identity) it was given by another person". Ika et al are a disgrace to African consciousness. |
Re: Itsekiris And Igbo Slaves by iSlayer: 9:45pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
Re: Itsekiris And Igbo Slaves by Ariani: 9:49pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
RoyalUc: You are not mentally okay. What has Osu to do with our discussion? What do you know about Osu? Mtchew. Lol! I Know about Igbanke, Owa ri uzo, etc. They are all Ika people in Edo state. Ogwashi uku are proud Nri people and has nothing to do with Bini slavish history of Ika and related groups. Thank you. |
Re: Itsekiris And Igbo Slaves by RoyalUc(m): 9:50pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
iSlayer: See how pained you are! Anyway, everyone knows you are always ruled by emotions without rational thoughts that's why people like Reno, FFK, including MNK, can easily take you people on a ride |
Re: Itsekiris And Igbo Slaves by Ariani: 9:51pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
iSlayer: Raw undiluted truth that would have been made obvious more if only Reno was looking for traffic hence he hid these slavish people behind ***** while he projected Igbos to gain traffic. 2 Likes |
Re: Itsekiris And Igbo Slaves by iSlayer: 9:52pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
RoyalUc: Okay bro. We are only elated that the real story of the Bini attachment is out now. We are lovers of knowledge. |
Re: Itsekiris And Igbo Slaves by iSlayer: 9:55pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
Ariani: There's no way he would mention it. If only this information is kept in limelight for a stretch so it sinks into the average Igbo's consciousness. That way once the slaves speak they are put in their place. |
Re: Itsekiris And Igbo Slaves by jude79(m): 9:57pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
gregyboy: Very funny assertions, the only contact eastern Igboes knew of Benin are the stories that came from stragglers who crossed the niger into onitsha(backyard), some of them didn't go back to their ancestral land and were subsumed into the Igbo communities that hosted them, not one single evidence of bini influence, not even trade history, haba, some people no fear God atall. Anyway, the idu na oba war stories, exchanged with Western neighbors in markets straddling the coastal lines of river niger is the only thing that gave eastern Igboes evidence that Benin existed. 2 Likes |
Re: Itsekiris And Igbo Slaves by LegendHero(m): 9:59pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
SlyDev: Lol. I’m just catching cruise. Haha. Who want to associate with those that Benin took as slave for centuries. No be me talk am, na Reno. 5 Likes |
Re: Itsekiris And Igbo Slaves by Kc3000: 9:59pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
Omokri was spewing rubbish per usual. He seems to be bursting at the seams with Igbo hatred, and try as he may to disguise it, it keeps seeping out of his pores. Nothing the Itshekiri slowpoke said can be supported with any historical evidence. Thankfully, someone was kind enough to debunk his fallacies with a brief but factual rejoinder: Nọnso Uche Nnajide wrote... IGBO SLAVES AMONG THE ITSEKIRI? So yesterday, an Itsekiri fellow on Facebook made the interesting claim that his people had many (emphasis on 'many') Igbo slaves. He went further to say that some of the descendants of these Igbo slaves still live in Delta State, and speak a hybrid language which he refused to mention. In the interest of intellectual discourse he probably should have mentioned it, and given interested parties the opportunity to verify or debunk the claims. As far as the ethnic backgrounds of slaves in Itsekiri land is concerned, this is what the historian P. C. Lloyd wrote in his paper, "The Itsekiri in the Nineteenth Century: An Outline Social History": Lloyd wrote: "A further change in Itsekiri social structure during the century was the development of domestic slavery. At the turn of the century the king held a large number of slaves, but the number owned by the chiefs is not known. The kingdom must have exported at least a thousand slaves annually. But with the decline of the slave trade, the supply did not cease, and slaves were integrated into the Itsekiri economy. Thus of Jakpa's 5000 people, Burton estimated that 600 - 700 were slaves of Diare. Olomu's slaves were variously numbered at 1000, 3000 and 4000. "The slaves were never Itsekiri, rarely Ijoh. Most were Urhobo, often being men and women expelled from their communities for serious offences and sold in the riverside markets. Some were given to the Itsekiri as pledges for debts. The Itsekiri usually equate the price of a slave with a puncheon of oil. They assert that they never went to a war to capture slaves, though a favourite method of settling a debt or a quarrel was to seize a man's slaves. Other slaves came through the trade routes from Benin and Yoruba country where they had been captured in inter-tribal wars. Nana's most senior slaves were Ologun, a Yoruba, and Sagay, a Benin." *Sagay is very clearly a corruption of the Bini name Osagie. So there you have it. Itsekiri's slaves came primarily from the Urhobo; secondarily from the Yoruba and the Bini; and sometimes (though rarely) from the Ijọ. These are the people in the same geographical area as the Itsekiri and the people with whom they were involved in regular interactions. But our Itsekiri friend went over the heads of his neighbours to look for slaves among the Igbos located farther away. I was going to just laugh at the story and go on with my business, but I realized there are Igbo people who may not be informed enough to see that this man lied through his teeth, hence my decision to talk about it here. For foolish ones among us following #RenoOmokri |
Re: Itsekiris And Igbo Slaves by RoyalUc(m): 10:05pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
Ariani: "What has Osu to do with our discussion?" Did you just ask that? Is it not obvious you don't understand English? What is the meaning of osu? And in what context did I make reference to it? Just emotional outbursts! Ogwashi uku are proud Nri people, right? If according to you, a people who are closer to the people you're insulting even by natural settlements have "nothing to do with Bini slavish history," how come a people who are farther interior away from the binis are the slaves to them? Do you even know the places you are talking about? |
Re: Itsekiris And Igbo Slaves by RoyalUc(m): 10:06pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
iSlayer:And you are a slave to all tribes in Nigeria |
Re: Itsekiris And Igbo Slaves by Ariani: 10:24pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
RoyalUc: You said Osu meant slave. Which obviously betrayed your ignorance as Osu were not slaves. They were people dedicated to shrines/gods. And only like 2/5th of Igboland practiced Osu caste. Igbo word for slave is Odibo. We have another variant of Odibos called Ohu/Oru. Ika is the closest to Bini in Anioma while Ndokwa Ukwuani are the closest to Itsekiri. These two groups also have a slavish attachment to Bini. Putting two and two together, it doesn't take long to unravel the ***** in Reno drivel. |
Re: Itsekiris And Igbo Slaves by RoyalUc(m): 10:28pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
Ariani: "Ndokwa Ukwuani are the closest to Itsekiri," and "...have a slavish attachment to Bini." are you ok!? |
Re: Itsekiris And Igbo Slaves by Nobody: 10:34pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
Nwanyiogwashi:Igbos sold each other into slavery. Clan rivalry was so intense and so were deep local enmities that the result every very clash was enslavement of people they really didn't want around to assert their rights. The fall out is the never to be ended Osu issue. Read Achebe on Umofia wars. Igbos were and still are their own worst enemies. |
Re: Itsekiris And Igbo Slaves by oyatz(m): 10:36pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
Ojiofor: What exactly brought Anioma into this discussion and concern me with Anioma being Igbo, Nupe or Tiv? |
Re: Itsekiris And Igbo Slaves by theTranscriber: 10:43pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
LegendHero: 2 Likes
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Re: Itsekiris And Igbo Slaves by bomb24: 10:56pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
gregyboy: which eastern Igbos did your puny kingdom raided for slaves. minority puke who couldn't stand the British for a day. 3 Likes |
Re: Itsekiris And Igbo Slaves by bomb24: 11:01pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
iSlayer: he was not from the Anioma area. he was from present-day Anambra, from his biography he knew about the Benin kingdom and specifically said they traded and the Benin kingdom had no significant rulership over them. 1 Like |
Re: Itsekiris And Igbo Slaves by Aganju849: 11:30pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
jerseyboy: Reno is full of shït I pity anyone who swallows all the crap he spews on a daily basis, he's a dummy. No wonder the Jonathan govt was a disaster |
Re: Itsekiris And Igbo Slaves by IGBOSON1: 11:39pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
LegendHero: Of course you will show your hateful, bigoted face on this thread......you're so predictable! All we ever hear from you is hateful, divisive and anti-Igbo rants! Dude, you need to get a life.....one edifying and useful to yourself and humanity! You're here getting a boner because Reno Omokri said Igbos were....was it sold as slaves or enslaved?....couldn't care less even if i tried! Just what informs your happiness and excitement over this? Are we to presume you come from a unheard of ethnic group in West Africa whose ancestors weren't vicitims of the slave trade that went on for centuries? If so, care to mention this ethnic grp so we can update historical records on the trans-atlantic and arab slave trade! Fool! 1 Like |
Re: Itsekiris And Igbo Slaves by Naigleria: 12:06am On Jul 23, 2021 |
EraseTheDot: Provide proof mr afonja The top slaves sold during trans Atlantic slave trade where Mbundu and Yoruba Even trans Saharan slave trade they where there In fact, how did you entire tribe manage to get enslaved by a bini man oduduwa 2 Likes |
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