RoyalUc:


You be Igbo, an Osu

Wetin be osu. Hahaha.

RoyalUc:


Funny how the 'slaves' are in charge but the defenders are crying every where to everyone - UN, ICC, IJC, US, UK - for freedom from marginalisation.
The defenders are the ones running to the slaves for support to increase their chances at freedom. And because the slaves have refused to join their delusional dream for freedom, the defenders have resorted to blackmail.

BTW, since your messiah has been captured, you can go back and beg Asari for help

What are you on about?
We are free men who has refused Fulani slavery in Nigeria.

You and your ilks on the other hand are slaves who see your chains as jewelleries.
You don't even know you are slaves and hence you can't even be helped.

No one expect slaves to fight for freedom. If they are capable of fighting for freedom, they wouldn't be slaves to start with, they will be rebels!
Nigeria has three class of citizens. The slaves who are comfortable with Nigeria and don't even recognize their slavery status. The rebels who have been waging rebellion since like forever for freedom. And the rulers who promote one Nigeria by shooting the rebels.

The joke is on a slave who considers himself better of than rebels.

iSlayer:



Wetin be osu. Hahaha.

It's igbo in my place. Osu is igbo. Hahahaha!!!

RoyalUc:


It's igbo in my place. Osu is igbo. Hahahaha!!!

Which place is that?

iSlayer:



Wetin be osu. Hahaha.

He said his Ukwuani Ndokwa people invented the Osu word and gave Igbos.

Ariani:


What are you on about?
We are free men who has refused Fulani slavery in Nigeria.

You and your ilks on the other hand are slaves who see your chains as jewelleries.
You don't even know you are slaves and hence you can't even be helped.

No one expect slaves to fight for freedom. If they are capable of fighting for freedom, they wouldn't be slaves to start with, they will be rebels!
Nigeria has three class of citizens. The slaves who are comfortable with Nigeria and don't even recognize their slavery status. The rebels who have been waging rebellion since like forever for freedom. And the rulers who promote one Nigeria by shooting the rebels.

The joke is on a slave who considers himself better of than rebels.

If I understand you properly, the one fighting for freedom is the slave that doesn't want to remain a slave, right?

Since you are the one fighting for freedom, you are the slaves!
We are free. We live in our land freely. We are not holding any tribe - far away or near - responsible for our state.
When we fight, we fight for our rights for our fair share as sons and not crying to others for help for freedom

iSlayer:


Which place is that?

Which place is yours

Ariani:


He said his Ukwuani Ndokwa people invented the Osu word and gave Igbos.

Yes, you are right!

RoyalUc:


If I understand you properly, the one fighting for freedom is the slave that doesn't want to remain a slave, right?

Since you are the one fighting for freedom, you are the slaves!
We are free. We live in our land freely. We are not holding any tribe - far away or near - responsible for our state.
When we fight, we fight for our rights for our fair share as sons and not crying to others for help for freedom

Lol!
No place in Ndokwa Ukwuani is even as developed as Okigwe or Orlu

You are beyond redemption.

Ariani:


Lol!
No place in Ndokwa Ukwuani is even as developed as Okigwe or Orlu

You are beyond redemption.

The argument has changed from slavery to development?

Developed slave like you!

You are beyond freedom

RoyalUc:


The argument has changed from slavery to development?

Developed slave like you!

You claimed everything is fine with you.
How else can we measure it if not by your level of development?

You are a slave who sees your chains as shiny "bling bling".

Ariani:


You claimed everything is fine with you.
How else can we measure it if not by your level of development?

You are a slave who sees your chains as shiny "bling bling".

And you are a slave whose chains are heavy and hot!

Ariani:


You claimed everything is fine with you.
How else can we measure it if not by your level of development?

You are a slave who sees your chains as shiny "bling bling".

Ariani, Reno has finally mentioned the people that were their slave o!
https://www.nairaland.com/6664091/igbo-slaves-built-great-wall

RoyalUc:


Ariani, Reno has finally mentioned the people that were their slave o!
https://www.nairaland.com/6664091/igbo-slaves-built-great-wall

Lol!
He is referring to Ika people as Igbos.

Ariani:


Lol!
He is referring to Ika people as Igbos.

"...Two things made the Igbo more susceptible to slave-raiding than other ethnicities.
The first was the Osu caste system, which made many Igbos sell their own kith and kin to others.
The second thing is that the Igbos never united under one king, neither were they willing to submit themselves unquestionably to one person. That made it possible for other smaller ethnicities who had united under one king to raid Igbo villages...Let me even annoy you some more, many of the people in modern-day Onitsha are of Bini origin. In fact, the elite and titleholders of Onitsha have very close consanguinity to the Binis." Reno

RoyalUc:


"...Two things made the Igbo more susceptible to slave-raiding than other ethnicities.
The first was the Osu caste system, which made many Igbos sell their own kith and kin to others.
The second thing is that the Igbos never united under one king, neither were they willing to submit themselves unquestionably to one person. That made it possible for other smaller ethnicities who had united under one king to raid Igbo villages...Let me even annoy you some more, many of the people in modern-day Onitsha are of Bini origin. In fact, the elite and titleholders of Onitsha have very close consanguinity to the Binis." Reno

There is no link between Bini wall building and the rantings above.
The above is Reno veering off rails as usual.

Lol!
Which Bini people raided Igbo villages? Do we share boundaries with Bini people?

Slave trade in Igboland had nothing to do with Osu cast. Infact Osus escaped slave trade because they were untouchable having been dedicated to the deities.
It made many non Osus jealous even.

Igbo slaves were sold at the bight of Biafra, now bight of Bonny, and has nothing to do with Bini people.
The active people in Igbo slave trade were the Aro and their Ohafia,Abam and Edda mercenaries.
They were all Igbo groups. People sold slaves to them who were mainly criminals or stubborn children, and they took them to Bonny or Calabar to sell.
It had nothing to do with Bini. Bini is inconsequential in Igbo history.
Some Igbos like Onitsha, Enuani and Oguta people who lived in Bini but ran back home when Bini tried to sell them off as slaves or offer them as human sacrifices to their fetish gods, were well welcomed back home where they got security.

Ariani:


There is no link between Bini wall building and the rantings above.
The above is Reno veering off rails as usual.

Lol!
Which Bini people raided Igbo villages? Do we share boundaries with Bini people?

Slave trade in Igboland had nothing to do with Osu cast. Infact Osus escaped slave trade because they were untouchable having been dedicated to the deities.
It made many non Osus jealous even.

Igbo slaves were sold at the bight of Biafra, now bight of Bonny, and has nothing to do with Bini people.
The active people in Igbo slave trade were the Aro and their Ohafia,Abam and Edda mercenaries.
They were all Igbo groups. People sold slaves to them who were mainly criminals or stubborn children, and they took them to Bonny or Calabar to sell.
It had nothing to do with Bini. Bini is inconsequential in Igbo history.
Some Igbos like Onitsha, Enuani and Oguta people who lived in Bini but ran back home when Bini tried to sell them off as slaves or offer them as human sacrifices to their fetish gods, were well welcomed back home where they got security.

So who is defending his slave status now?

Nwanyiogwashi:
Is only in Nigeria that Itsekiris with 30,000 population as at 19 century sold 200,000 Igbo slaves Nothing we no hear in Nigeria
I blame ipob for giving this minorities groups power to insult igbos

is it a about population or military strength and strategy. Isreal of 4m people defeated the entire arabs nation of over 100m in the 6 days war.

FakeUnity:


The fulanis captured your yorubaland, put an emirate in it and sold your yoruba skulls to Arabs through during trans-Saharan slave trade, while your own Ijebu brothers and the binis were also capturing you yorubas and selling you as slaves in southern ports all the way to Brazil and the carribeans, yet you point crooked fingers to the Ibos?

You want us to revist your history of slavish servitude as an emiratized yorubaman?

Generational slaves like you only write thrash.No wonder all dick and harry took Igbos as slaves.Tueh!

Ariani:


Lol!
He is referring to Ika people as Igbos.

Check this names you will see that ika was once rule by bini

Ariani:
I think instead of drag this Reno.
Ndiigbo should force him to come clean with the people he labelled "Igbo" in that his statement.
I'm very sure he is speaking of Ika and Ndokwa/Ukwuani groups still suffering from Bini Stockholm syndrome.
Once we establish that he is talking about Ndokwa Ukwuani/Ika, we can rightly strip these groups of the false Igbo tag Reno labelled them and hand them over to their Bini overlords to go and argue these things out Biko.

This shouldn't be our battle.

Reno was being mischievous using "Igbo" while avoiding the use of right tags of Ika or Ukwuani/Ndokwa.

I don't see any business between Igbo man and Itsekiris. We are not neighbors and had little or no known interactions.

You deserve 2 Bottles of your favorite drink from me .

Nwanyiogwashi:
[[s]quote author=LegendHero post=103974291]The only true thing here is that Benin and Itsekiri sold Igbo as slaves for centuries.

The population of the UK today is like 66million and yet they conquered Nigeria and India whose population is far far far more than theirs. Not even considering other part of the world they conquered.

I know people will say the British got tech advancement, but this is just to defeat the premises of population used by the OP.

No be me talk am, na Reno!

[/s]
If bini could not conquer Agbor is it Itsekiri that will do that?
The only conquered people in South is Yoruba that lost land to Fulani people.

You’re very stupid. Igbo clans can never measure up to the numerous empires that were present in yoruba land. All you have to do is look into history and you will see for a fact that Igbos were slaves to pretty much all of the coastal tribes in Africa because igbo communities never centralised under a king. That’s why the British had issues conquering igboland too until they destroyed the arochukwu cave.

Make una forget history, is not relevant now. Can bini and ishekiri defeat igbos now. History is something that maybe true or not

[s]

DuwaRepublic:


You’re very stupid. Igbo clans can never measure up to the numerous empires that were present in yoruba land. All you have to do is look into history and you will see for a fact that Igbos were slaves to pretty much all of the coastal tribes in Africa because igbo communities never centralised under a king. That’s why the British had issues conquering igboland too until they destroyed the arochukwu cave.

[/s]
If Yoruba with numerous empires can be conquered by Fulani and install emir in kwara state till today what is the need for your numerous empires

Nwanyiogwashi:
Is only in Nigeria that Itsekiris with 30,000 population as at 19 century sold 200,000 Igbo slaves Nothing we no hear in Nigeria
I blame ipob for giving this minorities groups power to insult igbos

I have not been following this issue... Trust me to dig up historical fact. Itshekiris have been recorded to be Slaves themselves in Sierra Leone. I will upload a document where how the slaves who finally landed in Sierra Leone got there.

Itshekriri didn't enslave nothing.

Nwanyiogwashi:
[s][/s]
If Yoruba with numerous empires can be conquered by Fulani and install emir in kwara state till today what is the need for your numerous empires

Don't mind the uneducated dote.. why were there so many Yoruba slaves, so numerous in places like Brazil and Sierra Leone.
I will upload the document as well.

iSlayer:



Grandstanding is okay. But it shouldn't be at the detriment of truth. The outlying Igbo areas to the west were subjugated by Bini over hundreds of years. This was possible because Bini wasn't attacking Igbo as a race, they were raiding individual remote communities. Now in that writeup by Reno if you get the background of events he's talking about, you will realize this sale of Igbo slaves (Ika people) predated the British. The Binis who had a strong monarchy were richly supplied with guns to carry out this raids and subdue this Igbos. This happened much much much earlier than any British misadventure in that area. The names of the ports of collection of Ika and Ndokwa slaves were called Escravos and Forcados, which are Portuguese, and not Harcourt or Douglas (which are British. So Reno is actually right.

The account of Olaudah Equiano strongly supports Reno's position too. Mind you the Igbos in question here are majority Ika, then Ndokwa, then a bit of Enuani.

Juxtaposing Reno's account with the reality today you can see there is an agreement of facts. The Ika are very very slavish to Bini and bear Bini sounding names (as a receipt of slavery). Things dont really change if you follow events closely from the far back periods.

The former name Escravos (
Ugborodo) is part of Itsekiriland which was founded over 500 years ago by Ilaje-Yorubas from oil-rich
Ugbo kingdom in the nearby
Ondo State, while Forcados is the eastern-most boundary of Ijawland according to the books written
by historians and the iconic Isaac Adaka-Boro before he passed.


The Aros sold the Ibo tribes of the interior to the Ijaw middle-men of Bonny, Nembe, Brass, and more, who then resold them to the European and American slave dealers in the late 1700s to the early 1800s. I read this years back from available sl.ave ship records and history books.


When Jaja was sold into slavery, (Jaja's father was a well-known
sl.ave trader too in Amaigbo now in
Imo State) he was marched off on foot and by canoe to Bonny Island which was a notorious Ijaw sl.ave hub. The Ijaws had many Ibo sl.aves as well for domestic labour such as Jaja who was a boy slave in Bonny before fleeing (in a war with his better armed Bonny rivals in 1870 as a freed "Ijawnised" man) to a part of Ibibioland called Ikot Abasi (that area of Ikot Abasi is now called Opobo). Opobo is originally
Ibibioland.


So Ibo captives from the areas East
of the River Niger definitely were
passed off or resold to slave dealers of other ethnicities whose lands had direct access to the
sea like the Ijaws, Itsekiris, Efiks, Ibibio.


Interestingly, Hausas, Kanuris and
Nupe captives from the dubious
Fulani jihads were also sold via
Yorubaland (Lagos Island, Ajase or
Porto Novo, greater Badagry region) and Whydah in Benin Republic. They were captured in
the Northern interior then resold
to other slave dealers from other ethnicities till they got to Yorubaland, etc.


Cc: Jerseyboy,
Nwanyiogwashiukwu

[quote author=Ojiofor post=103974426]Reno have gone mad.That you owned some few slaves of Igbo origin does not mean that you enslaved the Igbo nation.No tribe ever conquered Igboland or enslaved ndi Igbo in their homeland. [/quot

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LegendHero:
The only true thing here is that Benin and Itsekiri sold Igbo as slaves for centuries.

The population of the UK today is like 66million and yet they conquered Nigeria and India whose population is far far far more than theirs. Not even considering other part of the world they conquered.

I know people will say the British got tech advancement, but this is just to defeat the premises of population used by the OP.

No be me talk am, na Reno!

Do you have prove?