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Re: Isoko Tribe Of Bayelsa State And Igbo Misconception by Ariani: 4:00pm On Sep 09, 2021 |
Collyweed: Yeah. Probably. Orisha corresponds to Arushi/Alusi. I agree with that. But Orisha concept is entirely opposite to Olisa. 2 Likes |
Re: Isoko Tribe Of Bayelsa State And Igbo Misconception by fx45(m): 4:01pm On Sep 09, 2021 |
kmcutez:Females don't tell lies 1 Like |
Re: Isoko Tribe Of Bayelsa State And Igbo Misconception by BKayy: 4:04pm On Sep 09, 2021 |
Ariani:Alusi = Alu/arụ kwụsị. They are not related. This is Odinani and I don't joke with it 2 Likes |
Re: Isoko Tribe Of Bayelsa State And Igbo Misconception by Ariani: 4:23pm On Sep 09, 2021 |
BKayy:I have never thought of it that way. It makes more sense. Alukwusi! Good one. Thank you. 3 Likes |
Re: Isoko Tribe Of Bayelsa State And Igbo Misconception by Abohboy: 4:28pm On Sep 09, 2021 |
BKayy: Can you breakdown these words i'm pretty sure Orisha and Alusi are both closely related both in name and in purpose both religions of Ifa and Odinani share very similar concepts and practices as well |
Re: Isoko Tribe Of Bayelsa State And Igbo Misconception by Ariani: 4:35pm On Sep 09, 2021 |
Abohboy: He has already broken Alusi down nah. Alusi = Alu kwusi! Meaning "let abomination stop" in English. It makes perfect sense. 4 Likes |
Re: Isoko Tribe Of Bayelsa State And Igbo Misconception by Abohboy: 4:40pm On Sep 09, 2021 |
Ariani: Bros I grew up abroad I don't speak any Nigerian language thank you for the translation but how does let abomination stop make sense for the meaning of deities worshipped and venerated what abomination were they stopping I really hope this isn't from a western or abrahamic religion point of view. Alusi like the Orisha were spoken to through divination called Ifa or Afa by a Dibia or Babalawo and you couldn't and wouldn't directly speak to the supreme deity that being Chukwu or Olodumare and what held your destiny and also guided you in life was your ori or chi I see no where in this explanation where these two religions differ so it wouldn't make sense for Alusi or Alu Kwusi as you say to suddenly have something to do with an Abomination 1 Like |
Re: Isoko Tribe Of Bayelsa State And Igbo Misconception by Ariani: 4:51pm On Sep 09, 2021 |
Abohboy: It makes sense that Alusi is Alukwusi! Igbo and Yoruba are two distinct people who had interactions in the distant past and shraed some words and ideas as evidence of that interaction. Orisha can be broken down in Yoruba too. Ori in Yoruba means head! So Orisha has something to do with the cult of the head or sort of leadership, many native African tribes have this cult of head ish rumoured to have been from the black Egypt (Kemet). This is entirely not what Alusi is about. Alusi is about cleansing of the land from abomination. 4 Likes |
Re: Isoko Tribe Of Bayelsa State And Igbo Misconception by Abohboy: 5:34pm On Sep 09, 2021 |
Ariani: Oh okay I thought you were saying Alusi were the abominations thanks for clearing it up |
Re: Isoko Tribe Of Bayelsa State And Igbo Misconception by BKayy: 6:06pm On Sep 09, 2021 |
Ariani:Wow. Nice 1. For a Christian, you did very well in the explanation. Now Mr Abohboy, Alụsi is not what they wrote on some blog or website. In the simplest term I can explain, Arụsi is where you go to get justice. It is not a place for divination where one person will throw Cowries on the ground. If you want divination, you go to okwu agwụ where your problem will be traced (ịgba afa). And you going there to lay complain doesn't mean that you are exempted from the punishment if later you are found to be guilty. Call it a spiritual court because the problem will be looked into by non living and judgement served accordingly |
Re: Isoko Tribe Of Bayelsa State And Igbo Misconception by Abohboy: 6:24pm On Sep 09, 2021 |
BKayy: Aren't Alusi talked to through divination I know one Dibia on twitter and that's what he said but yes at the same time they also do what you said are you sure that divination isn't for Alusi |
Re: Isoko Tribe Of Bayelsa State And Igbo Misconception by BKayy: 6:28pm On Sep 09, 2021 |
Abohboy:I will say invoke to be specific about the divination because he is bringing the spirit to this world through the incantations. I think we are going to far |
Re: Isoko Tribe Of Bayelsa State And Igbo Misconception by Idiko1: 6:35pm On Sep 09, 2021 |
Efewestern: Arrant nonsense !!!! 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Isoko Tribe Of Bayelsa State And Igbo Misconception by Abohboy: 6:35pm On Sep 09, 2021 |
BKayy: Oh okay we can stop here it's no problem |
Re: Isoko Tribe Of Bayelsa State And Igbo Misconception by BKayy: 6:36pm On Sep 09, 2021 |
Abohboy:Yes better. BTW, the dibịa was at his okwu agwụ doing the divinations not okwu Arụsị. They are different temples 1 Like |
Re: Isoko Tribe Of Bayelsa State And Igbo Misconception by Ofodirinwa: 1:15am On Sep 10, 2021 |
Did anyone see where I can find garri ? |
Re: Isoko Tribe Of Bayelsa State And Igbo Misconception by isokomarine: 9:55am On Sep 10, 2021 |
Oksman:it's common among isoko and Edoid language |
Re: Isoko Tribe Of Bayelsa State And Igbo Misconception by LordFarquaad(m): 11:13am On Sep 11, 2021 |
Homeboiy:These names represent just little percentage of ndi nsukka population probably 20% percent. You make it sound as though a greater percentage of ndi nsukka bear names that are not intelligible to the wider Igbos. Every border town in the East has a little bit of this just acculturation but it doesn't make them less Igbo.. |
Re: Isoko Tribe Of Bayelsa State And Igbo Misconception by LordFarquaad(m): 3:28pm On Sep 11, 2021 |
DREagon:If you think the indigenes of Nsukka, a town that hosted the University of Biafra and that was instrumental in the war would forget it's heritage then, think again. |
Re: Isoko Tribe Of Bayelsa State And Igbo Misconception by iyedea: 10:44am On Sep 12, 2021 |
Abohboy:you are very correct |
Re: Isoko Tribe Of Bayelsa State And Igbo Misconception by isokomarine: 11:45am On Sep 12, 2021 |
iyedea:don't mind Ndigbo they are online desperate land grabber |
Re: Isoko Tribe Of Bayelsa State And Igbo Misconception by Dmadagwa(m): 11:13am On Oct 06, 2021 |
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Re: Isoko Tribe Of Bayelsa State And Igbo Misconception by isokomarine: 7:35pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
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Re: Isoko Tribe Of Bayelsa State And Igbo Misconception by darfay: 11:33am On Dec 24, 2021 |
Fejoku: I just saw this thread and I'll try to give an honest befitting answer devoid of ethnic sentiment Concerning the afformentioned communities, The deductive truth is that they were originally founded by ukwale/ndokwa people but they accepted migrants from neighbouring isoko communities considering the fact that isokoland is much smaller than ndokwaland which is also sparsely populated. The isoko migrants out numbered their earlier ukwani settlers and the towns/villages/settlements moved from being billingual to being monolingual. No isoko person knows the meaning of those towns not even the ones currently occupying it or calling it their homeland and that's why communities like anibeze, osikwenike which is the headquarters of a kingdom called okugbe isoko which should loosely be translated as united isoko kingdom or unity or something like that together with abuetor and they currently unilingual communities . Other communities in ndokwa east like umuti are also entirely isoko speaking largely due to the same process. Asaba ase is the most recent of such as some of the migrations were in the 1900's but the community is billingual and shifting towards the latter. Some isoko communities like igbuku might still have a relic of ukwale heritage as a few of it's inhabitants are billingual in kwale and isoko with the isoko being by far more dominant and it's even neighbouring to Aboh and it's one of the few isoko communities to have a masquerade, something quite alien in isoko tradition and culture, ogbokiri ama should be of ijaw origin that probably went through same process. Many other purely isoko communities also exist in ndokwa east such as ibrede which is one of the largest communities in the local government, awa,onogbokor and many I can't recall. Isoko people should be anywhere from 15 to 25% in ndokwa east and possibly more as their communities are more densely populated than that of the ndokwas and with a higher birth rate plus an increasing migrant community in kwale communities like Aboh. Unlike itsekiri and ijaw people that would have renamed the settlement into their native tongue they'll rather maintain it or butcher it's pronunciation for communities like ewho okrafor(okafor) in ndokwa east. Concerning the uniqueness of isoko from their urhobo brothers, I don't think it was caused by migrants from outsiders. Isoko areas might have expanded into ukwale territories. The founder of ozoro which is arguably one of the largest isoko town is a bini prince named "opute". So it might not be wrong to conclude there was a migration into neighbouring territories of other ethnicity but it had very minimal effect on the language as there's hardly any serious dialectical difference between isoko communities as it should have been due to degree of influence from the other language from one community to another. Even dialects of anibeze,osikwenike, umuti which were probably founded by non isoko people are extremely uniform with anywhere else in isoko territory or even billingual communities like asaba ase. The truth is that as a stranger crossing from isoko communities in the core isoko local governments to those in bayelsa and ndokwa east you wouldn't know you already left any of the isoko local governments. The slight difference in language isn't particularly due to outsiders, for instance the Isoko word for play is Zaro while neighbouring ughelli areas should sule or something like that but it's exactly the same as that of Isoko in far away uwvie urhobo areas although Isoko and urhobo of ughelli areas/their prestige dialect I guess are more similar than urhobo of udu,sapele etc I have no idea of those of ethiope. Ethnic difference between the two ethnicity are so very blurred that communities such as evreni and uwheru were originally isoko communities but are now of urhobo ethnic nationality today. Isoko proper is older than urhobo as the oldest of the 5 languages that makes up the urhobo-isoko dialect continuum is part of isoko,According to some isoko quarters, most of their communities migrated from isoko areas. Odionlogbo is a form of gerontocracy which is common in majority but not all of the isoko communities and ukwale areas where it is called okpala ukwu. Odion is elder while ologbo should be big and is loosely translated as the oldest person which it actually is as they believe wisdom comes with age, while a few isoko communities have Ovies which is a monarchical system as is more common with our urhobo brothers. I have no idea of what ezelogbo means but it should suggest something of a high king or something along that line Cc Idiko1 Efewestern Igboid aka pazienza 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Isoko Tribe Of Bayelsa State And Igbo Misconception by isokomarine: 12:43am On Dec 26, 2021 |
darfay:your write up is made up of epic of ignorance. First of all you don't even know that most urhobo communities migrates from Isoko land such as ugheli, okpe, sapele and so on. Concerned isoko and igbo Communities of ndokwa, you don't have any knowledge or you are just kidding.... 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Isoko Tribe Of Bayelsa State And Igbo Misconception by LordKushmann(m): 12:26pm On Feb 10, 2022 |
isokomarine:Because i know Igbo very well and i can give you the equivalent of each word there in Igbo. You will cross check for yourself. |
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