Workch:
dont ask me stupid questions.
I’m not here to take stupid questions, if you don’t see the birth of Jesus as a magic then leave it

You assumed a position of wise one
I accept. But answer my question. Don't move around.

hupernikao:


You assumed a position of wise one
I accept. But answer my question. Don't move around.

Its a stupid question to ask the magic in Christianity, it’s silly. Maybe you should check for the meaning of the word “magic” then read the Bible carefully

Workch:
So because of that the Bible has to be true?

What kind of reasoning is this?

Are we dragging truth of the Bible here?
You have accepted that what you hold absolute, is just stable at most for 500 years. How stable can that be since the earth is over millions of years old.

The instability of science should give you a sense of relativity of argument. So calm down.

Workch:
Its a stupid question to ask the magic in Christianity, it’s silly. Maybe you should check for the meaning of the word “magic” then read the Bible carefully

Maybe you were taught magic in your Sunday school or where ever you had your expose of the scriptures. I wasn't. So your background may be the trouble here. Don't you think.

hupernikao:


Are we dragging truth of the Bible here?
You have accepted that what you hold absolute, is just stable at most for 500 years. How stable can that be since the earth is over millions of years old.

The instability of science should give you a sense of relativity of argument. So calm down.

Maybe you should go back and read the op of this thread.
I’m not in for your derailing

hupernikao:


Maybe you were taught magic in your Sunday school or where ever you had your expose of the scriptures. I wasn't. So your background may be the trouble here. Don't you think.

now see how stupid is question is, here is the definition of magic:

magic, sometimes stylized as magick, is the application of beliefs, rituals or actions employed in the belief that they can subdue or manipulate natural or supernatural beings and forces.

Workch:
Through evolution from ancient apes

We are speaking about how life got here. Man there will represent all life. So, my question, how does life began. How did the ape get to be. Magic or Science?

hupernikao:


We are speaking about how life got here. Man there will represent all life. So, my question, how does life began. How did the ape get to be. Magic or Science?

are you confused?

You asked how man got here.

Workch:
now see how stupid is question is, here is the definition of magic:

magic, sometimes stylized as magick, is the application of beliefs, rituals or actions employed in the belief that they can subdue or manipulate natural or supernatural beings and forces.

Like I said, you may likely have gotten a wrong class and study. So your emphasis on magic.

I wasn't taught like that.

hupernikao:


Like I said, you may likely have gotten a wrong class and study. So your emphasis on magic.

I wasn't taught like that.

So the birth of Jesus is a natural birth?

Workch:
Maybe you should go back and read the op of this thread.
I’m not in for your derailing

Your OP is firstly on wrong premise. The Bible never speak about 6000years. You did. And I expect you to explain how you did that and infused it into Bible doctrine.

hupernikao:


Your OP is firstly on wrong premise. The Bible never speak about 6000years. You did. And I expect you to explain how you did that and infused it into Bible doctrine.

Every single Christian has their own interpretation for the Bible, that’s why we have more 4000 different doctrines. All confused about what they feel.
A good number of Christians think the earth is 6000years as depicted by the chronology of the Bible

Workch:
So the birth of Jesus is a natural birth?

It's supernatural.

hupernikao:


It's supernatural.

Again, here’s the definite of magic:

magic, sometimes stylized as magick, is the application of beliefs, rituals or actions employed in the belief that they can subdue or manipulate natural or supernatural beings and forces.

Workch:
are you confused?

You asked how man got here.

Yes I am. Answer. How did life got here.
Magic or Science

hupernikao:


Yes I am. Answer. How did life got here.
Magic or Science

We don’t know yet.

Workch:


Again, here’s the definite of magic:

magic, sometimes stylized as magick, is the application of beliefs, rituals or actions employed in the belief that they can subdue or manipulate natural or supernatural beings and forces.

How does this relate to the scriptures.

hupernikao:


How does this relate to the scriptures.

The scriptures is magic.

From creation to, Noah’s ark, to Elijah chariot of fire, Jesus birth and resurrection.

All are perfect examples of magic by definition

Workch:
We don’t know yet.

We don't know. Good.
But science proposed several theories, like big bang etc.
Scriptures said a God created.

Which of these seems more magical or stupid to take.

Workch:
The scriptures is magic.

From creation to, Noah’s ark, to Elijah chariot of fire, Jesus birth and resurrection.

All are perfect examples of magic by definition

You will need to reread the scriptures with a supervision of someone who know how to read it.

hupernikao:


We don't know. Good.
But science proposed several theories, like big bang etc.
Scriptures said a God created.

Which of these seems more magical or stupid to take.

Big Bang doesn’t explain formation of life.
You need to learn proper science

Why are you confuse?

hupernikao:


You will need to reread the scriptures with a supervision of someone who know how to read it.

I read it and that’s why I don’t believe it. It’s magic

Workch:
I read it and that’s why I don’t believe it. It’s magic

You read it with the mindset of what you have heard wrongly. You need a supervision to help you see beyond those wrong info

Workch:
Big Bang doesn’t explain formation of life.
You need to learn proper science

Why are you confuse?

I have asked you where does life starts.

That means science doesn't proposed any?

hupernikao:


You read it with the mindset of what you have heard wrongly. You need a supervision to help you see beyond those wrong info

I don’t need any scammer to twist clear English words for me.

It’s clear and very understandable sir. I don’t want to hear Holy Spirit nonsense.

Jesus was born without fertilization, that’s magic in all definition and it doesn’t find its way into science class

Workch:
I read it and that’s why I don’t believe it. It’s magic

An am sure you know, a case like Moses, he wrote based on e siting culture and knowledge and stories of their time to explain God's plan.

He wasn't telling you stories not discovering science but explaining theology. Put that behind somewhere as you read, read theology not evolution.

hupernikao:


I have asked you where does life starts.

That means science doesn't proposed any?

We don’t know where life came from yet.

Should I write that in tongues?

hupernikao:


An am sure you know, a case like Moses, he wrote based on e siting culture and knowledge and stories of their time to explain God's plan.

He wasn't telling you stories not discovering science but explaining theology. Put that behind somewhere as you read, read theology not evolution.

If you read the Bible by yourself, you will become an atheist. If someone reads the Bible for you and then interpret, you will become a Christian.

Workch:
We don’t know where life comes from yet.

Should I write that in tongues?

Writing it in text is better.

So, that means you can't conclusively throw away what others proposed until you can find your own answer. That is how science works.

hupernikao:


Writing it in text is better.

So, that means you can't conclusively throw away what others proposed until you can find your own answer. That is how science works.

We are sure that the Christian narrative is wrong. Very wrong.

Workch:
If you read the Bible by yourself, you will become an atheist. If someone reads the Bible for you and then interpret, you will become a Christian.

Well, this isn't true if you read with someone with open mind and ready to take your questions.

Are you aware Moses wasn't writing scientific discoveries but using existing knowledge to explain a plan?

hupernikao:


Writing it in text is better.

So, that means you can't conclusively throw away what others proposed until you can find your own answer. That is how science works.

we are open to only verifiable evidence and Christian don’t have that.

They just want us to take “god did it” that will never make science. You and I know that