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Re: Cornflakes For Jihad: The Boko Haram Origin Story By David Hundeyin by Ibkhaleel01: 9:45pm On Oct 03
Jaqenhghar:

You just described the average muslim there and the prophet you revere. No insults but can you name any society where muslims live in peace with non muslims.... anywhere in the world?
You fight Fulanis in your land, lie against them, chase them away. Even those who aren't Fulanis, you accuse them of being Fulanis for either being Muslims or beings Christians associating with Muslims.
When your brethren commit havoc and institute mayhem, you heap it on Fulanis.
And you think that is racial harmony?! That is racism!
Remove the iroko tree in your eyes before stretching your mouth against Muslims

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Re: Cornflakes For Jihad: The Boko Haram Origin Story By David Hundeyin by nameo: 9:50pm On Oct 03
Ibkhaleel01:
They go to work, live, holiday & shop in Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait & Qatar.
While there, they subject themselves completely to Sharia laws & Islamic injunctions that govern these countries.
They even learn Arabic to be able to communicate effectively.
But here in Nigeria that is governed by laws & a constitution that is based on the Christian CANONICAL laws...;
here in Nigeria that uses for all its official documents, schedules & civil observances the GREGORIAN calendar named after Pope Gregory XIII, who issued the papal bull Inter gravissimas in 1582, announcing calendar reforms for all of Catholic Christiandom which gave birth to the Gregorian calendar in use today also called the Western or Christian calendar...;
they want to die whenever they see Arabic inscription on anything. They are so afraid of Islamization & are all running away to the Middle East to escape been Islamized by Buhari.
Self-deceit & idiotic hypocrisy should indeed have a limit!!

Bros, do you believe in or support the Taliban??

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Re: Cornflakes For Jihad: The Boko Haram Origin Story By David Hundeyin by Ibkhaleel01: 10:00pm On Oct 03
nameo:


Bros, do you believe in or support the Taliban??
TALIBAN SIMPLY GAINED CONTROL OVER THEIR COUNTRY and you see that as evil and bad...but Israel has forcefully killed people including children and force themselves on their lands but you close your eyes to that evil...


Somebody posted this in order to berate Afghanistan government.
You accused Taliban of not allowing females to go to school. Now that they are going to school, you still accused them of separating their seats in the classroom.
You can not used your religion as a yardstick to judge Islam. You can only learn from Islam so as to live a better life. Islam is free from free mixing of matured male and female. That is the standard of Islam.

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Re: Cornflakes For Jihad: The Boko Haram Origin Story By David Hundeyin by Jaqenhghar: 10:08pm On Oct 03
Ibkhaleel01:
You fight Fulanis in your land, lie against them, chase them away. Even those who aren't Fulanis, you accuse them of being Fulanis for either being Muslims or beings Christians associating with Muslims.
When your brethren commit havoc and institute mayhem, you heap it on Fulanis.
And you think that is racial harmony?! That is racism!
Remove the iroko tree in your eyes before stretching your mouth against Muslims
Typical of you guys. Deflect and deflect. Violence is the muslim way. We are not talking of fulani here vit you are bringing it up.
Let's even go that way. We have the videos. Its the fulanis we see with the machine guns and the kidnap victims but to you they are the victims. A man who kills others is the victim. You need your head checked

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Re: Cornflakes For Jihad: The Boko Haram Origin Story By David Hundeyin by nameo: 10:13pm On Oct 03
Ibkhaleel01:
TALIBAN SIMPLY GAINED CONTROL OVER THEIR COUNTRY and you see that as evil and bad...but Israel has forcefully killed people including children and force themselves on their lands but you close your eyes to that evil...


Somebody posted this in order to berate Afghanistan government.
You accused Taliban of not allowing females to go to school. Now that they are going to school, you still accused them of separating their seats in the classroom.
You can not used your religion as a yardstick to judge Islam. You can only learn from Islam so as to live a better life. Islam is free from free mixing of matured male and female. That is the standard of Islam.

I asked you a simple question which you have not answered in the rant above: do you believe in or support the Taliban?
Yes or No. And then if you like, why?

By the way, i oppose what Isreal is doing to the Palestine (and i specifically mean the taking of the lands of Palestine. I have always opposed that vehemently whilst supporting the right of Isreal to defend itself. Two different issues).

Plus, i do not hate Islam or any other religion or belief system. Never have.
But i do not tolerate when any religion or belief become a clog to human progresd or peace. Which is what some Muslims are turning Islam to be now. If you read the article, you should be angry at those who are trying to deface Islam except of course yoi believe that they are in the right yourself.

Am talking too much. Plzz answer the questions

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Re: Cornflakes For Jihad: The Boko Haram Origin Story By David Hundeyin by Jaqenhghar: 10:15pm On Oct 03
Ibkhaleel01:
They go to work, live, holiday & shop in Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait & Qatar.
While there, they subject themselves completely to Sharia laws & Islamic injunctions that govern these countries.
They even learn Arabic to be able to communicate effectively.
But here in Nigeria that is governed by laws & a constitution that is based on the Christian CANONICAL laws...;
here in Nigeria that uses for all its official documents, schedules & civil observances the GREGORIAN calendar named after Pope Gregory XIII, who issued the papal bull Inter gravissimas in 1582, announcing calendar reforms for all of Catholic Christiandom which gave birth to the Gregorian calendar in use today also called the Western or Christian calendar...;
they want to die whenever they see Arabic inscription on anything. They are so afraid of Islamization & are all running away to the Middle East to escape been Islamized by Buhari.
Self-deceit & idiotic hypocrisy should indeed have a limit!!

Stop lying who os the " are all" that are running to UAE and Saudi. If we were to do an analysis data will show that we have more people migrating to western countries than to UAE and Saudi. You cant compare temporary visit to migration. And yes I insist even in those countries there is nothing peaceful about shariah. Those countries only appear peaceful but there is an atmosphere of fear there hence the reason why they have to relax their laws
And why should people not be afraid of a religion that preaches hate and violence. What planet do you live in? You spread violence and hate and you expect people to just smile and embrace you. Is that what your prophet taught you? That when you spread violence people love you in return?

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Re: Cornflakes For Jihad: The Boko Haram Origin Story By David Hundeyin by Ibkhaleel01: 10:18pm On Oct 03
Jaqenhghar:


Stop lying who os the " are all" that are running to UAE and Saudi. If we were to do an analysis data will show that we have more people migrating to western countries than to UAE and Saudi. You cant compare temporary visit to migration. And yes I insist even in those countries there is nothing peaceful about shariah. Those countries only appear peaceful but there is an atmosphere of fear there hence the reason why they have to relax their laws
And why should people not be afraid of a religion that preaches hate and violence. What planet do you live in? You spread violence and hate and you expect people to just smile and embrace you. Is that what your prophet taught you? That when you spread violence people love you in return?
lol you are making yourself a laughable stock here....Not quite long...your people rushed to Saudi Arabia..


Farewell, our Medical Doctors...

Your fellow xtians took the journey....Take the next flight to Saudi Arabia,
A full-fledged Islamic country,
With strict sharia law,
It doesn't matter if you are a Christian,
Just go there,
Make your money, return home,
We are here to fix the system.
Ironic tonic here,
You fear Buhari's Islamization here,
But line up in queue,
To be forced into Saudi's Islamic law,
Where your name will be temporarily changed
From Chikwendi to Maskoor,
Your suit will turn to jalabia
And your hair covered in turban shawl,
Yes, for you must do like the Saudis,
Just like the Romans while in Rome.
Your wives will be forced to dress in full apparel,
Unlike in Nigeria, where they can be dressed in topless attire,
Your wives won't drive cars,
They will only be driven.
Life in this Sharialized country is very comfortable,
You will be paid in Riyal,
Everything available,
Paradise on earth,
Unlike Buhari's Nigeria.
You are going to make big money,
Treating not the Saudis but pilgrims,
Who converge there annually,
You fear Islamization yet travel far to treat same Muslims,
Isn't God wonderful?
Indeed he is the God of humans- both Muslims and Christians!
When you make the money,
Remember to return home
And train the student doctors behind,
After all, others trained you for the Saudis,
The system paid for your medical school.
Again, isn't time, Govt stop funding medical schools,
After all, they leave for Saudis after receiving medical lessons
In Buhari's Islamized Nigeria.
Farewell, our medical doctors,
Enroute Saudi Arabia, for Arabia dough,
Say, Salam to the Saudis, another Islamic country!
Salamlly musing
Re: Cornflakes For Jihad: The Boko Haram Origin Story By David Hundeyin by Ibkhaleel01: 10:19pm On Oct 03
Jaqenhghar:


Stop lying who os the " are all" that are running to UAE and Saudi. If we were to do an analysis data will show that we have more people migrating to western countries than to UAE and Saudi. You cant compare temporary visit to migration. And yes I insist even in those countries there is nothing peaceful about shariah. Those countries only appear peaceful but there is an atmosphere of fear there hence the reason why they have to relax their laws
And why should people not be afraid of a religion that preaches hate and violence. What planet do you live in? You spread violence and hate and you expect people to just smile and embrace you. Is that what your prophet taught you? That when you spread violence people love you in return?
If only you have eyes and can reason with a sincere open mind!


Clearly Islam the religion is not the cause of terrorism. Islam, as I said, is a religion of peace. However through the centuries, deviations from the true teachings of Islam take place. And so Muslims kill despite the injunction of their religion against killing especially of innocent people.

If you look at Christianity you must admit that being thrown to the lions by the Romans did not prevent Christians when they achieved power from being totally intolerant of those who did not accept Christianity During the Spanish Inquisition suspected apostates were burnt at the stake after mock trials. In fact many who are in America today are descended from Christians who had fled from terror perpetrated by other Christians. And the Jews in America are the descendants of the Jews who fled the regular pogroms in European countries, especially Russia, and of course the persecution by the Germans under Hitler.

Islam had in fact been more tolerant. The Jews chose to migrate to North Africa together with the defeated Muslims after Ferdinand and Isabella completed the reconquest of Spain. To stay back meant forced conversion to Christianity or pain of death. Even after conversion they remained suspects and were persecuted.

The Muslims were well disposed towards Christians in particular. When the early Muslims were persecuted by the heathen Arabs, they sought refuge in Abyssinia, a Christian country with a Christian king. They were well treated there because the Christians realised they worshipped the same God and recognised not only the prophets of the Christians but those of the Jews as well. The Muslims venerate Musa or Moses, and Isa or Jesus as their prophets along with Adam, Abraham, Jacob and others.

They differ from the Hebrews and the Christians because they believe that at the time of the Prophet Muhammad, the Jews and the Christians had deviated from the true teachings. But then you must remember that Martin Luther and others too accused the Christians of their times of deviation from the true teachings and founded their own creed or sect in protest. So the Muslims' attitude towards Christianity is not much different from that of the various Protestant sects. In the past Catholics and Protestants were violently intolerant of each other.


Islam is capable of coexisting with Judaism and Christianity if they are not oppressed. Indeed Islam is capable of coexisting with other religions too, including with those without any religion.


However, whether people are fighting a noble cause or not, there are certain acts which they may not perpetrate. Exploding bombs in public places and killing innocent people cannot be accepted. Holding civilians to ransom or as hostages cannot be accepted. Poisoning food, medicine or water supply cannot be accepted.
Re: Cornflakes For Jihad: The Boko Haram Origin Story By David Hundeyin by Ibkhaleel01: 10:21pm On Oct 03
nameo:


I asked you a simple question which you have not answered in the rant above: do you believe in or support the Taliban?
Yes or No. And then if you like, why?

By the way, i oppose what Isreal is doing to the Palestine (and i specifically mean the taking of the lands of Palestine. I have always opposed that vehemently whilst supporting the right of Isreal to defend itself. Two different issues).

Plus, i do not hate Islam or any other religion or belief system. Never have.
But i do not tolerate when any religion or belief become a clog to human progresd or peace. Which is what some Muslims are turning Islam to be now. If you read the article, you should be angry at those who are trying to deface Islam except of course yoi believe that they are in the right yourself.

Am talking too much. Plzz answer the questions
Your question have been answered so well...but i doubt if your eyes can see the truth!


You cant close your mind and expect to see the answer....

Anyway i wil educate you even more...


Clearly Islam the religion is not the cause of terrorism. Islam, as I said, is a religion of peace. However through the centuries, deviations from the true teachings of Islam take place. And so Muslims kill despite the injunction of their religion against killing especially of innocent people.

If you look at Christianity you must admit that being thrown to the lions by the Romans did not prevent Christians when they achieved power from being totally intolerant of those who did not accept Christianity During the Spanish Inquisition suspected apostates were burnt at the stake after mock trials. In fact many who are in America today are descended from Christians who had fled from terror perpetrated by other Christians. And the Jews in America are the descendants of the Jews who fled the regular pogroms in European countries, especially Russia, and of course the persecution by the Germans under Hitler.

Islam had in fact been more tolerant. The Jews chose to migrate to North Africa together with the defeated Muslims after Ferdinand and Isabella completed the reconquest of Spain. To stay back meant forced conversion to Christianity or pain of death. Even after conversion they remained suspects and were persecuted.

The Muslims were well disposed towards Christians in particular. When the early Muslims were persecuted by the heathen Arabs, they sought refuge in Abyssinia, a Christian country with a Christian king. They were well treated there because the Christians realised they worshipped the same God and recognised not only the prophets of the Christians but those of the Jews as well. The Muslims venerate Musa or Moses, and Isa or Jesus as their prophets along with Adam, Abraham, Jacob and others.

They differ from the Hebrews and the Christians because they believe that at the time of the Prophet Muhammad, the Jews and the Christians had deviated from the true teachings. But then you must remember that Martin Luther and others too accused the Christians of their times of deviation from the true teachings and founded their own creed or sect in protest. So the Muslims' attitude towards Christianity is not much different from that of the various Protestant sects. In the past Catholics and Protestants were violently intolerant of each other.


Islam is capable of coexisting with Judaism and Christianity if they are not oppressed. Indeed Islam is capable of coexisting with other religions too, including with those without any religion.


However, whether people are fighting a noble cause or not, there are certain acts which they may not perpetrate. Exploding bombs in public places and killing innocent people cannot be accepted. Holding civilians to ransom or as hostages cannot be accepted. Poisoning food, medicine or water supply cannot be accepted.
Re: Cornflakes For Jihad: The Boko Haram Origin Story By David Hundeyin by Ibkhaleel01: 10:23pm On Oct 03
Jaqenhghar:

Typical of you guys. Deflect and deflect. Violence is the muslim way. We are not talking of fulani here vit you are bringing it up.
Let's even go that way. We have the videos. Its the fulanis we see with the machine guns and the kidnap victims but to you they are the victims. A man who kills others is the victim. You need your head checked
Facts dont lie....lets see history and the current situation today...


History proves that religions cannot be imposed by force, therefore Islam could not have spread by the sword. Rather it spread by means of the call alone, and by means of the call alone peoples who had shortly beforehand defeated the Arabs, such as the Turks and Mongols, embraced Islam. The Qur’an spread throughout India – although the Arabs had nothing to do with India except as passers-by – in such a way that the number of Muslims in that land increased to fifty million. The spread of Islam in China, of which the Arabs never conquered any part, was no less. You will see, in a later chapter, how fast Islam spread in that land, where the number of Muslims at present is more than twenty million.

Is it now clear to you how incorrect the accusations against Islam are, and the extent to which the Jewish and Christian scholars, and the media, have misled you?

It is as if you want to say that your religion was not spread by the sword. It is as if you want to convince people of the mercy and compassion of the followers of your religion. But none of that is true; here are some examples from your own history:

1.     King Olaf slaughtered everyone who refused to embrace Christianity in Norway; he cut off their hands and feet, and banished and expelled them, until there was no other religion in the land except Christianity.

2.     In Montenegro in the Balkans, the Prince-Bishop Danilo Petrovic led a campaign of slaughter against non-Christians on Christmas Eve.

3.     In Ethiopia, the king Sayf Ar‘ad (1342-1370 CE) executed everyone who refused to become Christian, or he banished them from the land.

4.     Moreover we find that it was Christianity – and not Islam – that eradicated the Native people in America.

5.     We also find that it is Christianity that uprooted the Palestinian people from their land in order to hand it over to the enemies of both Christ and Muhammad (peace be upon them).

6.     Who is it that started the world wars? In the First World War, ten million people were killed, and in the Second World War, the death toll was seventy million!

7.     How many humans were killed by the atomic bombs that were dropped on the cities of Nagasaki and Hiroshima in Japan?

8.     During the Crusades, when the Christians besieged Jerusalem and the siege intensified, and its inhabitants realised that they were defeated, they asked the crusader leader Tancred for safe passage for themselves and their wealth, and he granted that to them on condition that they all seek refuge in al-Masjid al-Aqsa (the mosque), carrying safety banners. Al-Masjid al-Aqsa was filled with old men, children and women, and they were slaughtered like sheep; their blood flowed in the holy place until it came up to the knees of the horses, and the streets were filled with crushed skulls, severed arms and legs and mutilated bodies. The historians state that the number of those killed inside al-Masjid al-Aqsa  alone was seventy thousand, and no European historians deny these atrocities.

9.     Our own times give the best testimony to that, for they bombarded Afghanistan, then they moved to Iraq and destroyed it, bombarding, killing and spreading mischief throughout the land. Their leader even said that God had commanded him to enter Iraq! Where are the teachings of Christ that they claim to follow and speak so much about?

10.                        When Lord Allenby, the representative of the Allies – England, France, Italy, Romania and America – captured Jerusalem in 1918 at the end of the First World War, did he not say: “Today the Crusades have ended”?

11.                        Did not the Frenchman Gouraud – who was also a representative of the Allies – stand in front of the tomb of the Muslim hero Salaah ad-Deen al-Ayyoobi (Saladin), when he entered Damascus, and say: “We have returned, O Saladin”?

12.                        Is it not so that the country was destroyed, blood was shed and women were raped in Bosnia and Herzegovina only in the name of the cross?

13.                        What do they have to say about what happened – and is still happening – in Chechnya? In Africa? Indonesia and elsewhere? Can they deny that what happened in Kosovo was a Crusade? Didn’t Bush say in his last war: “It will be a crusade”?

Such atrocities did not occur when the Muslims fought in jihad against their enemies. They did not kill women or children or ordinary people. It is worth noting the instructions that Abu Bakr as-Siddeeq gave to Usaamah ibn Zayd and his troops:

“Do not commit any act of treachery or betrayal. Do not steal from the war booty. Do not mutilate any dead body. Do not kill any child, old man or woman. Do not cut down any palm trees or burn them. Do not cut down any fruit-bearing tree. Do not slaughter any sheep, cow or camel, except for food. If you pass by people who have devoted themselves to worship in hermitages, then leave them to that to which they have devoted themselves.”


 I would also, like to say that Hitler was a Christian and he killed the Jews and said that "God would be happy with that".
Re: Cornflakes For Jihad: The Boko Haram Origin Story By David Hundeyin by CUMIN: 10:23pm On Oct 03
I have read the main article...apart from the fine expository and use of English language, this have been a public knowledge.


There are no details were the weapons came from.

The name of key perpetrator s.

The structure of the organization...
Re: Cornflakes For Jihad: The Boko Haram Origin Story By David Hundeyin by freegaza(m): 10:25pm On Oct 03
Someone that doesn't know the difference between sufi and salafi is trying to explain Jihad. This is trash
Re: Cornflakes For Jihad: The Boko Haram Origin Story By David Hundeyin by Theunbothered: 10:31pm On Oct 03
tuna85:


I couldn't connect the stuffs written there, bringing one thing or the other, anyway, it is expected, the rapid growth of Islam around the world alone seems threatening to them.
People have been talking about Boko Haram sponsors, why is the the Government not going after them? You think the next thing is to tag Boko Haram to Islaam? It's never going to work. The preachings of Islaam are clear to everyone. Peace, Love, moral standards, purity and Paradise.

Nobody had a problem with Islam until they started bombing buildings and beheading people who disagreed with their religion.

Now you're saying Boko Haram is not Islam, they must be Hindu then. undecided

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Re: Cornflakes For Jihad: The Boko Haram Origin Story By David Hundeyin by nameo: 10:38pm On Oct 03
Ibkhaleel01:
Your question have been answered so well...but i doubt if your eyes can see the truth!


You cant close your mind and expect to see the answer....

Anyway i wil educate you even more...


Clearly Islam the religion is not the cause of terrorism. Islam, as I said, is a religion of peace. However through the centuries, deviations from the true teachings of Islam take place. And so Muslims kill despite the injunction of their religion against killing especially of innocent people.

If you look at Christianity you must admit that being thrown to the lions by the Romans did not prevent Christians when they achieved power from being totally intolerant of those who did not accept Christianity During the Spanish Inquisition suspected apostates were burnt at the stake after mock trials. In fact many who are in America today are descended from Christians who had fled from terror perpetrated by other Christians. And the Jews in America are the descendants of the Jews who fled the regular pogroms in European countries, especially Russia, and of course the persecution by the Germans under Hitler.

Islam had in fact been more tolerant. The Jews chose to migrate to North Africa together with the defeated Muslims after Ferdinand and Isabella completed the reconquest of Spain. To stay back meant forced conversion to Christianity or pain of death. Even after conversion they remained suspects and were persecuted.

The Muslims were well disposed towards Christians in particular. When the early Muslims were persecuted by the heathen Arabs, they sought refuge in Abyssinia, a Christian country with a Christian king. They were well treated there because the Christians realised they worshipped the same God and recognised not only the prophets of the Christians but those of the Jews as well. The Muslims venerate Musa or Moses, and Isa or Jesus as their prophets along with Adam, Abraham, Jacob and others.

They differ from the Hebrews and the Christians because they believe that at the time of the Prophet Muhammad, the Jews and the Christians had deviated from the true teachings. But then you must remember that Martin Luther and others too accused the Christians of their times of deviation from the true teachings and founded their own creed or sect in protest. So the Muslims' attitude towards Christianity is not much different from that of the various Protestant sects. In the past Catholics and Protestants were violently intolerant of each other.


Islam is capable of coexisting with Judaism and Christianity if they are not oppressed. Indeed Islam is capable of coexisting with other religions too, including with those without any religion.


However, whether people are fighting a noble cause or not, there are certain acts which they may not perpetrate. Exploding bombs in public places and killing innocent people cannot be accepted. Holding civilians to ransom or as hostages cannot be accepted. Poisoning food, medicine or water supply cannot be accepted.

Sorry, if you answered the question before i did not see it.

So kindly just answer that question alone now. No need for anyother story plzz.

Do you believe in or support the Taliban??

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Re: Cornflakes For Jihad: The Boko Haram Origin Story By David Hundeyin by Jaqenhghar: 10:40pm On Oct 03
Ibkhaleel01:
Facts dont lie....lets see history and the current situation today...


History proves that religions cannot be imposed by force, therefore Islam could not have spread by the sword. Rather it spread by means of the call alone, and by means of the call alone peoples who had shortly beforehand defeated the Arabs, such as the Turks and Mongols, embraced Islam. The Qur’an spread throughout India – although the Arabs had nothing to do with India except as passers-by – in such a way that the number of Muslims in that land increased to fifty million. The spread of Islam in China, of which the Arabs never conquered any part, was no less. You will see, in a later chapter, how fast Islam spread in that land, where the number of Muslims at present is more than twenty million.

Is it now clear to you how incorrect the accusations against Islam are, and the extent to which the Jewish and Christian scholars, and the media, have misled you?

It is as if you want to say that your religion was not spread by the sword. It is as if you want to convince people of the mercy and compassion of the followers of your religion. But none of that is true; here are some examples from your own history:

1.     King Olaf slaughtered everyone who refused to embrace Christianity in Norway; he cut off their hands and feet, and banished and expelled them, until there was no other religion in the land except Christianity.

2.     In Montenegro in the Balkans, the Prince-Bishop Danilo Petrovic led a campaign of slaughter against non-Christians on Christmas Eve.

3.     In Ethiopia, the king Sayf Ar‘ad (1342-1370 CE) executed everyone who refused to become Christian, or he banished them from the land.

4.     Moreover we find that it was Christianity – and not Islam – that eradicated the Native people in America.

5.     We also find that it is Christianity that uprooted the Palestinian people from their land in order to hand it over to the enemies of both Christ and Muhammad (peace be upon them).

6.     Who is it that started the world wars? In the First World War, ten million people were killed, and in the Second World War, the death toll was seventy million!

7.     How many humans were killed by the atomic bombs that were dropped on the cities of Nagasaki and Hiroshima in Japan?

8.     During the Crusades, when the Christians besieged Jerusalem and the siege intensified, and its inhabitants realised that they were defeated, they asked the crusader leader Tancred for safe passage for themselves and their wealth, and he granted that to them on condition that they all seek refuge in al-Masjid al-Aqsa (the mosque), carrying safety banners. Al-Masjid al-Aqsa was filled with old men, children and women, and they were slaughtered like sheep; their blood flowed in the holy place until it came up to the knees of the horses, and the streets were filled with crushed skulls, severed arms and legs and mutilated bodies. The historians state that the number of those killed inside al-Masjid al-Aqsa  alone was seventy thousand, and no European historians deny these atrocities.

9.     Our own times give the best testimony to that, for they bombarded Afghanistan, then they moved to Iraq and destroyed it, bombarding, killing and spreading mischief throughout the land. Their leader even said that God had commanded him to enter Iraq! Where are the teachings of Christ that they claim to follow and speak so much about?

10.                        When Lord Allenby, the representative of the Allies – England, France, Italy, Romania and America – captured Jerusalem in 1918 at the end of the First World War, did he not say: “Today the Crusades have ended”?

11.                        Did not the Frenchman Gouraud – who was also a representative of the Allies – stand in front of the tomb of the Muslim hero Salaah ad-Deen al-Ayyoobi (Saladin), when he entered Damascus, and say: “We have returned, O Saladin”?

12.                        Is it not so that the country was destroyed, blood was shed and women were raped in Bosnia and Herzegovina only in the name of the cross?

13.                        What do they have to say about what happened – and is still happening – in Chechnya? In Africa? Indonesia and elsewhere? Can they deny that what happened in Kosovo was a Crusade? Didn’t Bush say in his last war: “It will be a crusade”?

Such atrocities did not occur when the Muslims fought in jihad against their enemies. They did not kill women or children or ordinary people. It is worth noting the instructions that Abu Bakr as-Siddeeq gave to Usaamah ibn Zayd and his troops:

“Do not commit any act of treachery or betrayal. Do not steal from the war booty. Do not mutilate any dead body. Do not kill any child, old man or woman. Do not cut down any palm trees or burn them. Do not cut down any fruit-bearing tree. Do not slaughter any sheep, cow or camel, except for food. If you pass by people who have devoted themselves to worship in hermitages, then leave them to that to which they have devoted themselves.”


 I would also, like to say that Hitler was a Christian and he killed the Jews and said that "God would be happy with that".
Like I said. Keep deflecting. You guys are quick to bring up acts committed by christians. The Christians have never denied any of these. In fact it's the christians that exposed some of these artrocities.

Saying religion can't be spread by the sword means you are either trying to practice the taqiyya on me or you really dont know your faith. If it can t be spread why did your prophet dedicate his life to spreading islam through terror.
If muslims are not in support of violence show me where muslims condemn acts of terror commmitted against non muslims. I'll wait.

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Re: Cornflakes For Jihad: The Boko Haram Origin Story By David Hundeyin by Ibkhaleel01: 10:44pm On Oct 03
Jaqenhghar:

Like I said. Keep deflecting. You guys are quick to bring up acts committed by christians. The Christians have never denied any of these. In fact it's the christians that exposed some of these artrocities.

Saying religion can't be spread by the sword means you are either trying to practice the taqiyya on me or you really dont know your faith. If it can t be spread why did your prophet dedicate his life to spreading islam through terror.
If muslims are not in support of violence show me where muslims condemn acts of terror commmitted against non muslims. I'll wait.
Is that how you behave when you worship human being?
Re: Cornflakes For Jihad: The Boko Haram Origin Story By David Hundeyin by Ibkhaleel01: 10:47pm On Oct 03
Jaqenhghar:

Like I said. Keep deflecting. You guys are quick to bring up acts committed by christians. The Christians have never denied any of these. In fact it's the christians that exposed some of these artrocities.

Saying religion can't be spread by the sword means you are either trying to practice the taqiyya on me or you really dont know your faith. If it can t be spread why did your prophet dedicate his life to spreading islam through terror.
If muslims are not in support of violence show me where muslims condemn acts of terror commmitted against non muslims. I'll wait.
I have never met such a close minded, hateful, vengeful, bigoted, fanatical group of people in my life.

They can't handle the truth... they start hurling insults and im so calm lol...passive aggressive is the term...

That is the way to do

Done for now.

Honestly, I am wasting my time here...

I never seen such a group of angry, bigoted, hateful people who call themselves Christians..

There is nothing "good" about you guys.

Yet, you are so easily debunked it almost is funny.
Re: Cornflakes For Jihad: The Boko Haram Origin Story By David Hundeyin by Nobody: 11:04pm On Oct 03
in Nigeria, only 2% know what is really happening - 10% can deduce some truth and the remaining 88% argue on Nairaland tongue
Re: Cornflakes For Jihad: The Boko Haram Origin Story By David Hundeyin by Jaqenhghar: 11:10pm On Oct 03
Ibkhaleel01:
If only you have eyes and can reason with a sincere open mind!


Clearly Islam the religion is not the cause of terrorism. Islam, as I said, is a religion of peace. However through the centuries, deviations from the true teachings of Islam take place. And so Muslims kill despite the injunction of their religion against killing especially of innocent people.

If you look at Christianity you must admit that being thrown to the lions by the Romans did not prevent Christians when they achieved power from being totally intolerant of those who did not accept Christianity During the Spanish Inquisition suspected apostates were burnt at the stake after mock trials. In fact many who are in America today are descended from Christians who had fled from terror perpetrated by other Christians. And the Jews in America are the descendants of the Jews who fled the regular pogroms in European countries, especially Russia, and of course the persecution by the Germans under Hitler.

Islam had in fact been more tolerant. The Jews chose to migrate to North Africa together with the defeated Muslims after Ferdinand and Isabella completed the reconquest of Spain. To stay back meant forced conversion to Christianity or pain of death. Even after conversion they remained suspects and were persecuted.

The Muslims were well disposed towards Christians in particular. When the early Muslims were persecuted by the heathen Arabs, they sought refuge in Abyssinia, a Christian country with a Christian king. They were well treated there because the Christians realised they worshipped the same God and recognised not only the prophets of the Christians but those of the Jews as well. The Muslims venerate Musa or Moses, and Isa or Jesus as their prophets along with Adam, Abraham, Jacob and others.

They differ from the Hebrews and the Christians because they believe that at the time of the Prophet Muhammad, the Jews and the Christians had deviated from the true teachings. But then you must remember that Martin Luther and others too accused the Christians of their times of deviation from the true teachings and founded their own creed or sect in protest. So the Muslims' attitude towards Christianity is not much different from that of the various Protestant sects. In the past Catholics and Protestants were violently intolerant of each other.


Islam is capable of coexisting with Judaism and Christianity if they are not oppressed. Indeed Islam is capable of coexisting with other religions too, including with those without any religion.


However, whether people are fighting a noble cause or not, there are certain acts which they may not perpetrate. Exploding bombs in public places and killing innocent people cannot be accepted. Holding civilians to ransom or as hostages cannot be accepted. Poisoning food, medicine or water supply cannot be accepted.
Mr. Man
I am as open minded and liberal. I believe everyone has a right to worship whatever he/she wants. I have muslim friends a d relatives whom I love very much and will protect with my life but I will say things as they are.
With what I see and have experienced as a christian who has lived among muslims, and what I see happening it's very hard for me to believe that muslims can coexist with people of other faiths. The only muslims I know who have done this are the yoruba muslims.

A few ce turies ago Christianity was the same.... violence and authroitarian rule in christian countries. It wasnt until christians started asking questions, speaking up a d studying the scriptures for themselves then change bgan to happen. People took power from certain christians leaders and were able to practice christianity the wya the bible says. There are parts of the bible that can be used to justify criminal acts but why aren't a majority doing so?
Back to Islam you can talk about how peacful your religion is but the actions of your fellow muslims is what people will use to judge. If you dont like it, like the christians you must come together too to condemn those violent ones among you. Let me break it down.

If a man insulted Islam or painted it a certain way you will agree that the man should be arrested or punished somehow.

Now those violent muslims also give Islam a bad name and are just as guilty as those who insult Islam by their actions do you agree?

If you agree then you must also agree that by not condemning them and allowing them in your mosques and fraternizing with them, you actually endorse their intolerance.

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Re: Cornflakes For Jihad: The Boko Haram Origin Story By David Hundeyin by Jaqenhghar: 11:14pm On Oct 03
Ibkhaleel01:
I have never met such a close minded, hateful, vengeful, bigoted, fanatical group of people in my life.

They can't handle the truth... they start hurling insults and im so calm lol...passive aggressive is the term...

That is the way to do

Done for now.

Honestly, I am wasting my time here...

I never seen such a group of angry, bigoted, hateful people who call themselves Christians..

There is nothing "good" about you guys.

Yet, you are so easily debunked it almost is funny.
I can understand your anger and frustration. Truth hurts
When you have no superior argument you resort to S.I.G.N language
Shame
Insult
Guilt and the
Need to be right

I have not insulted you but give you facts. You dont expect me to call white black to cater to your feel8ngs. If you really love your faith you will fight those among you who give the religion a bad name. Not the victims

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Re: Cornflakes For Jihad: The Boko Haram Origin Story By David Hundeyin by WispyEthereal: 11:23pm On Oct 03
This is the biggest story in Nigeria right now but guess what? Our oluwole media houses will not publish it, big thanks to David Hundeyin

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Re: Cornflakes For Jihad: The Boko Haram Origin Story By David Hundeyin by WispyEthereal: 11:25pm On Oct 03
webm:
We are in deep trouble sharing this country with northerners

Read more at the source. A very well researched article.
https://westafricaweekly.substack.com/p/cornflakes-for-jihad-the-boko-haram?r=p0z0&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&utm_source=
Go and read the full report, it will shock you

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Re: Cornflakes For Jihad: The Boko Haram Origin Story By David Hundeyin by Empiree: 11:56pm On Oct 03
Belafonte:
The north's attempts at islamising southern Nigeria and, Africa by extension, is unrelenting and will very likely succeed
Did you ever read 1994 Christian manifesto?. What do you call that?. Isn't that agenda as well and are we not seeing how Christians are disturbing Muslims at school and stuff work?

This bull crap stories like this will keep emerging time and again in order to achieve something which is exactly what I seem to notice. Start attacking one another in the name of religion and they divert your attention to reach their goal.

Kontinu
Re: Cornflakes For Jihad: The Boko Haram Origin Story By David Hundeyin by AngelicBeing: 12:03am On Oct 04
descarado:

How can I vex for you cheesy
How you dey over there?
I am fine, I trust all of you are doing great as well, regards to all you and wishing you all the best of the month of October cool

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Re: Cornflakes For Jihad: The Boko Haram Origin Story By David Hundeyin by chaloskyx: 12:13am On Oct 04
AWW SHUT UP WHAT STUPID ARTICLE IS THIS? THIS IS JUST TO DIVERT PEOPLES ATTENTION FROM THE SPONSORS OF BOKO HARAM WITHIN THE CURRENT NIGERIAN GOVERNMENT CORN FLAKES KOR GARRI NI OGA FISHOUT THE SPONSORERS IN PRESENT DAY NIGERIA PLEASE AND SAVE US THIS BULLSHIT AIMED AT TURNING PEOPLES ATTENTION FROM THE REAL SPONSORES OF TODAYS BOKO HARAM
Re: Cornflakes For Jihad: The Boko Haram Origin Story By David Hundeyin by Empiree: 12:14am On Oct 04
Belafonte:
The north's attempts at islamising southern Nigeria and, Africa by extension, is unrelenting and will very likely succeed
all you black people with senseless brain are Africa's problems. If anyone would "Islamise" Nigeria it would have been either IBB or Abacha with their military force. But both didn't care. Matter of fact they allowed Christianity to resign especially during Abacha regime. He could have hanged Christian owners in 1994 for their manifesto but he didn't.

So you guys can continue to take trash
Re: Cornflakes For Jihad: The Boko Haram Origin Story By David Hundeyin by Evercurious(f): 12:18am On Oct 04
Wfsholla90:


What's happening in the Muslim world is obeying all the commandments of the most High to the best of our ability without leaving anything out whatsoever, and staying firm in the face of all attrition just as the Taali-ban's did with American invasion till the Nasrilah (help from Allah) comes.
It's on the coat of arms anyway you might want to check it out 'Nasru-minnallah' (victory is from Allah) written in Arabic.
Nigeria is actually a Muslim country from the onset, the colonial masters gave the Mantle of leadership to a Muslim cos they know we are in the best position to lead even though the vast majority of them are christians.
Maybe you should adopt a positive mindset towards islam without bias you will understand will islam is suppose to triumph above any other man made -ism's and -schism's


I actually read the whole article and it was an interesting piece of work. Kudos.

NB: I'm not believing nor disbelieving your work though. Until I conduct an independent research.


Your head correct at all?

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Re: Cornflakes For Jihad: The Boko Haram Origin Story By David Hundeyin by mybiz234: 12:55am On Oct 04
MANNABBQGRILLS:

Until y'all learn how to live as brothers and sisters.
And stop seeing yourselves as better than other people.
Until yall renounce the TRIBALISM and RELIGION SHENANIGANS that the evil and corrupt politicians have engraved in your hearts since 1960, things will remain the same as it has always been.
No two ways about it.
Learn how to live in peace with all men.
We come on peace.
#BitterTruth
God bless Nigeria.
Peace out ✌

Buhari called for sharia.

So, Buhari himself is promoting RELIGION SHENANIGANS. Yet, you have staked your destiny to defend a religion fanatic.

You are defending a religion fanatic and telling others not to see things from religion perspective. Does your reasoning even make sense to you yourself?

Why are you an agent of lies, deception, immorality and hypocrisy?!

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Re: Cornflakes For Jihad: The Boko Haram Origin Story By David Hundeyin by mybiz234: 1:00am On Oct 04
NothingDoMe:
I knew this story will make its way here soon enough. Very strong points by the author. With all that is happening it is very difficult to fault this write up.

Let's see how the Nigerian government reacts to this. They are really good at confirming these types of stories. cheesy

Mannabbgrills praises a man who vows to promote Sharia. Yet mannabbgrills accuse others of promoting religion bias.

Mannabbgrills speaks from both sides of the mouth

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Re: Cornflakes For Jihad: The Boko Haram Origin Story By David Hundeyin by Ibkhaleel01: 1:53am On Oct 04
Jaqenhghar:

I can understand your anger and frustration. Truth hurts
When you have no superior argument you resort to S.I.G.N language
Shame
Insult
Guilt and the
Need to be right

I have not insulted you but give you facts. You dont expect me to call white black to cater to your feel8ngs. If you really love your faith you will fight those among you who give the religion a bad name. Not the victims
the truth sound like an insult....

You quote me in the first place because you feel offended by the facts i have written....

The problem with you guys is that you are bias and always chose to stand with the oppressors..

Because the islamic world dont cook up lies and propaganda about persecution so you think every act of terror must be from and bu muslims?

If not because muslims in Nigeria are tolerant of the lies, insults and persecution by Christians you wouldn't have been alive by now!

Take NL as a case study...have you ever seen A muslim come online to lie or insult chrstians, bible , jesus or the church?

But whenever your people have a chance all they do is bash Allah, Muhammad and muslims...

Some even change their names to hurt the muslims..

Is this not worst than slaughter?

Do your people tolerate or give rights to minorities?

It has never happened in the history Of nigeria a situation where muslims kill innocent people! Go and get your records and i challenge you to come up with a single instance!

But it has happened several times in your regions xtians burn muslims alive and their places of worship and even in the north we have videos of chrstians The only thing they did not do was to roast and eat them like the Sallah day massacre in Plateau in 2011 when some Plateau youths attacked worshippers on Eid day, killed, roasted and eat the dead bodies. YET NO CHRSTIAN SEES THIS AS A HORRIBLE ACT!

come to think of it...had it been it happened to your xtians... heavens will have fall


So pls try to be just in your thinking dont just hate Islam and muslims and try to connect them with terorism while ignoring the real Terrorist simply because the Christians and the media reports it in a biased way!

We are muslims! The most truthful, trustworthy and sincere nation!

We dont compromise our religion
Re: Cornflakes For Jihad: The Boko Haram Origin Story By David Hundeyin by Ibkhaleel01: 2:03am On Oct 04
Jaqenhghar:

Mr. Man
I am as open minded and liberal. I believe everyone has a right to worship whatever he/she wants. I have muslim friends a d relatives whom I love very much and will protect with my life but I will say things as they are.
With what I see and have experienced as a christian who has lived among muslims, and what I see happening it's very hard for me to believe that muslims can coexist with people of other faiths. The only muslims I know who have done this are the yoruba muslims.

A few ce turies ago Christianity was the same.... violence and authroitarian rule in christian countries. It wasnt until christians started asking questions, speaking up a d studying the scriptures for themselves then change bgan to happen. People took power from certain christians leaders and were able to practice christianity the wya the bible says. There are parts of the bible that can be used to justify criminal acts but why aren't a majority doing so?
Back to Islam you can talk about how peacful your religion is but the actions of your fellow muslims is what people will use to judge. If you dont like it, like the christians you must come together too to condemn those violent ones among you. Let me break it down.

If a man insulted Islam or painted it a certain way you will agree that the man should be arrested or punished somehow.

Now those violent muslims also give Islam a bad name and are just as guilty as those who insult Islam by their actions do you agree?

If you agree then you must also agree that by not condemning them and allowing them in your mosques and fraternizing with them, you actually endorse their intolerance.
A muslim can live peacefully with a Christian and will even be just, fair and tolerate the person!

But a Christian can never allow a muslim drink water if they are majority in a place!

We have christians here in the north doing business in the midst of Muslims and prefer to stay here than in their own region the south!!....

Only northern Muslims consider Nigeria as one. And are peaceful and accomodate Christians

You hardly see a Local Government in the North without a Church. You have the right to build your worship centres anywhere in the North even in Sokoto close to the sultan palace we allow churches and even give Bishop Kuka d right to speak, lie and insult us.

We give you land to build your houses and Churches. You observe your religion without any molestation. You dress the way you want. We buy from you, and we sell to you, this happen only in the North!!!!!.


In return, what we get from you chrstians is genocide, molestation, and total rejection. We accommodate you here in the north, you pusue us out of yourir regions using false flag tactics of fulani herdmen.


Your chrstians killed Prime Minister Tafawa Balewa
That's the story you will NEVER tell your children.
The real traitors in Nigeria are chrstians.

Remember Kaduna Nzeogwu, who killed a man he once called father Sardau a of Sokoto?

Did you ever ask about the fate of Igbo Muslims?

We have muslims that are igbos but did you know how badly treated they are at their own region?

This Hypocrites must stop...

Don't t ever think Muslims are fools for been peaceful and silent!

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Re: Cornflakes For Jihad: The Boko Haram Origin Story By David Hundeyin by Demmzy15(m): 2:06am On Oct 04
Wfsholla90:


Interestingly you don't expect us to believe all this crap coming from a kafir without putting up alot of investigation.
We don't owe you any explanation however, if you would like to know about the sweetness of Islam I will implore you to research and practice the deen.
NB: I am a Yoruba Muslim, I love Islam, I love equally Muslim brothers from the North, South and East more than I love a fellow Yoruba Non Muslim. If you're pained my brother carry am for your headpan e, I don't give a damn about your feelings anyway.
Omoluabi ni e! Alhamdulillāhi!

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