Deadlytruth:


I said it was a resistance to the Zik's and Balewa's violations of the independence constitution through which Nigeria was making progress.
Is it too difficult for you to understand?
I already said it that you will only return to dismiss the hard evidence without providing any contrary facts. Aren't I vindicated now?

You said Nzeogwu planned a coup right? Why was Zik's name number 1 on the hit list of Nzeogwu? Recall that the coup was inspired by the unlawfulness of the Zik-Balewa government which used the army to kil peacefully demonstrating Tiv and Okrika people. Where in that constitution was the army given the power to quell demonstration where the police was?

This is pathetic...Zik was a figure head president with no power to command troops. Operation Wetie was between Awo and Akintola loyalists, even primary school kids today know that.

Now back to the real question....was Nigeria working?

Deadlytruth:


You are now suffering from the agony of defeat. We all believe that America is working even though there are frequent uprisings there, for example the case of George Floyd, the Marthin Luther King protest, the, American civil war which saw deaths of thousands of civilians, the 1961 invasion of a university by the American police which left many students dead on campus, the Herbert Hoover protests that nearly set the country on fire, the recent invasion of Capitol complex by protesters in support of Donald Trump, the Watergate Scandal, the bombings of WTC which recorded over 3000 deaths, etc. Going by your silly idea of a working society we can say America has never worked because all the following happened there right? You are simply a dunce!

You equate a terrorist attack on 9/11 in the US with the hell in Nigeria between 1960-1966?

Talk true...since you were born has anybody complemented you on being wise?

joeyfire:


This is pathetic...Zik was a figure head president with no power to command troops. Operation Wetie was between Awo and Akintola loyalists, even primary school kids today know that.

Now back to the real question....was Nigeria working?

This is more than pathetic. Nzeogwu was himself a soldier but he put Zik's name on the hit list because of the troops being deployed unlawfully all over the country. I guess you understand the dynamics of the relationship between the executive (Zik-Balewa) and the armed forces better than Nzeogwu, right? Idiot!



And I have been asking you whether America never worked just because all the disturbances I listed above and many more ever happened there. Your kinsmen are all over South Africa because they believe it is currently working better than Nigeria yet South Africa is full of frequent incidents of xenophobic uprisings and massacres.
Please which school did you even attend?

Deadlytruth:


[s]This is more than pathetic. Nzeogwu was himself a soldier but he put Zik's name on the hit list because of the troops being deployed unlawfully all over the country. I guess you understand the dynamics of the relationship between the executive (Zik-Balewa) and the armed forces better than Nzeogwu, right? Idiot!



And I have been asking you whether America never worked just because all the disturbances I listed above and many more ever happened there. Your kinsmen are all over South Africa because they believe it is currently working better than Nigeria yet South Africa is full of frequent incidents of xenophobic uprisings and massacres.
Please which school did you even attend?[/s]

Zik was a ceremonial president. Abi na Nzeogwu dash am powers of Prime Minister? You are too desperate to score points. Calm down and study

joeyfire:


You equate a terrorist attack on 9/11 in the US with the hell in Nigeria between 1960-1966?

Talk true...since you were born has anybody complemented you on being wise?

So only World trade center attack you saw there? You didn't see far earlier disturbances that happened in America there. If after existing for about 190 years America a working America could record police invasion of a university and a terrorist attack in their 234th year of existence, and even a full blown civil war in about the 100th year of its existence, isn't it stupid for you to say that Nigeria wasn't working because of a far lesser chaos that happened just three years into its existence? Are you really this dull?

joeyfire:


Zik was a ceremonial president. Abi na Nzeogwu dash am powers of Prime Minister? You are too desperate to score points. Calm down and study

If you had any capacity to reason logically you would have been able to deduce that Nzeogwu's inclusion of Zik in the hit list was because he as president must finally sign any document by which the prime minister deployed the armed forces for any operation.

Deadlytruth:


[s]If you had any capacity to reason logically you would have been able to deduce that Nzeogwu's inclusion of Zik in the hit list was because he as president must finally sign any document by which the prime minister deployed the armed forces for any operation. [/s]

okay I don hear. Nzeogwu singlehandedly gave Zik the powers of Balewa via his hit list

DMerciful:
So Canada with provinces(regions), does each region have their own embassies in other countries? The United States individual states that have their own constitution and Supreme Court, do they have their own embassies? It was not a standard thing Awolowo did.

The British Colonial Government Permitted the Western Region to have its own UK Embassy it was part of the Regional autonomy Awolowo negotiated at Independence so what is the Problem


It was Ironsi's Unification decree that closed that Embassy down

joeyfire:


okay I don hear. Nzeogwu singlehandedly gave Zik the powers of Balewa

You obviously can no longer use as escape route the lame argument that Zik was a figurehead president.
FYI, Zik, as 'figurehead" president still had some exclusive powers in the constitution back then. For example he alone could call on the elected prime minister to form a government or else the country would be at a standstill. He used this power briefly against Balewa in protest of the 1965 election's poor credibility.

Deadlytruth:


You obviously can no longer use as escape route the lame argument that Zik was a figurehead president.
FYI, Zik, as 'figurehead" president still had some exclusive powers in the constitution back then. For example he alone could call on the elected prime minister to form a government or else the country would be at a standstill. He used this power briefly against Balewa in protest of the 1965 election's poor credibility.

You alleged that Zik had power to deploy troops, prove it

Deadlytruth:


So you couldn't see where it is clearly stated in the story that Zik was the leader of the NCNC which spearheaded all that negative activities? You didn't see whete Okpara, the foremost Zik loyalist, decided to draw back? You are simply beyond salvage.

And I have asked you why Zik decided to team up with Balewa to start violating a constitution which kept Nigeria working. Before independence we were even already operating that system. So why wasn't there operation wetie before Zik and Balewa combo and Ironsi's onslaught on that constitution?
That source I have provided put to bed all your revisionist tales.

Operation wetie started in 1965. The NCNC had pulled out of its coalition with the NPC by 1964. The combo that sparked operation wetie was Balewa/Akintola. Nice try though

joeyfire:


You alleged that Zik had power to deploy troops, prove it

Zik jointly shared that power with Balewa. That is what I said. If after taking the pains to show you hard evidences from a combination of journals authored by live witnesses of those events among whom were Europeans and Nigerian professional journalists, you could still call it bear parlour talk without having opened it to read for yourself, then whoever thinks he can convince you with proofs and evidences must be a very idle person.

Deadlytruth:


Zik jointly shared that power with Balewa. That is what I said. If after taking the pains to show you hard evidences from a combination of journals authored by live witnesses of those events among whom were Europeans and Nigerian professional journalists, you could still call it bear parlour talk without having opened it to read for yourself, then whoever thinks he can convince you with proofs and evidences must be a very idle person.

The only hard evidence you have provided are your emotional epistles. Show where Zik as figure head had powers to deploy troops.

joeyfire:


Operation wetie started in 1965. The NCNC had pulled out of its coalition with the NPC by 1964. The combo that sparked operation wetie was Balewa/Akintola. Nice try though

Operation Wetie was the final outburst of a long pent up anger that started brewing since 1962 over the the unconstitutional means repeatedly deployed by the Zik-Balewa NPC-NCNC coalition government in its attempt to take over the Western Region and kill AG..
Thank God you are honest enough this time to agree that Zik pulled NCNC out of the NPC-NCNC coalition in 1964.
Now, the question is: why didn't Zik do that in 1962 when the NPC-NCNC just started using Akintola and unconstitutional methods in trying to take over the West and kill AG? Why did he wait till 1964 after Akintola had won the battle and shaken off the NCNC in the West before he pulled NCNC out of the coalition at the center? I need answers.

Igbokid:

Nyamuri scum! Ndi cannibals ! Terrorist in chief of Ariara/Upper Iweka ! Which is the worst? Your dirtiness , legendary treachery or collective stupidity!

Treachery of course! we all know that great deceiver that Betrayed The Most High ........you people learned well from him........the treachery of a sharp 2 edge sword has no comparison to afonja betrayal nah! from Awo and action group betrayal of ZIK and NCNC.............to Afenifere betrayal of MKO.....una motto na betray all betrayables.......Anago!Anago !! Anago people even betrayal (Yoruba, alias unreliable in Hausa) has taken your real name!

joeyfire:


The only hard evidence you have provided are your emotional epistles. Show where Zik as figure head had powers to deploy troops.

If you had been able to convincingly discredit the source before dismissing the contents verbally, I would have taken you seriously as that is what intelligent persons do if they can't provide counter evidence to a documental evidence.

Deadlytruth:


I said it was a resistance to the Zik's and Balewa's violations of the independence constitution through which Nigeria was making progress.
Is it too difficult for you to understand?
I already said it that you will only return to dismiss the hard evidence without providing any contrary facts. Aren't I vindicated now?

You said Nzeogwu planned a coup right? Why was Zik's name number 1 on the hit list of Nzeogwu? Recall that the coup was inspired by the unlawfulness of the Zik-Balewa government which used the army to kil peacefully demonstrating Tiv and Okrika people. Where in that constitution was the army given the power to quell demonstration where the police was?

The way you build lies on top of lies eh

Small children can use wikipedia and learn that Nzeogwu, Ademoyega and co were after the entire government, Zik inclusive.

But claiming that the Prime Minister needed to get permission from the ceremonial president to mobilise troops internally shows you are intellectually shallow. Where in the constitution was the deployment of troops illegal?

joeyfire:



The way you build lies on top of lies eh

Small children can use wikipedia and learn that Nzeogwu, Ademoyega and co were after the entire government, Zik inclusive.

But claiming that the Prime Minister needed to get permission from the ceremonial president to mobilise troops internally shows you are intellectually shallow. Where in the constitution was the deployment of troops illegal?

Your problem is that after recovering from the shock of any hard fact or superior logic you see, you gather yourself up again and begin to throw tantrums.
The mere fact that you mentioned Wikipedia as a credible source of information is enough evidence that you are the intellectually shallow one here. Only a hardline ignoramus would shamelessly speak confidently of Wikipedia which has a visible edit button that makes its contents easily editable by any Tom Dick and Harry. Even you yourself can edit Wikipedia. All you need to is search for the information on Google, click on the icon that looks like a pen, move your cursor to the very sentence you want to edit and then delete or add any information you wish to. Then click on the "post" button and that's all. Try it right away and see for yourself.

Now, you said Zik had no powers of his own whatsoever hence couldn't be accused of any wrong done by the NPC-NCNC coalition government. Then again you now claim Nzeogwu and co were after the entire government inclusive of Zik obviously for the misrule and abuse of power by that government. My question now is that: why did they include the Zik who occupied a powerless position in that government hence didn't do any wrong according to you?
Or are you suggesting that Nzeogwu and co had a personal beef with Zik which they only wanted to settle the scores with the coup?
The reason they were after Balewa was his abuse of office. Okotie-Eboh's was perceived corruption. Akintola's was his abuse of power in the West. Ahmadu Bello's was because he was the hand behind Balewa.
What was Zik's own who was a figurehead and had no powers he could abuse according to you? Please answer.

Deadlytruth:


Operation Wetie was the final outburst of a long pent up anger that started brewing since 1962 over the the unconstitutional means repeatedly deployed by the Zik-Balewa NPC-NCNC coalition government in its attempt to take over the Western Region and kill AG..
Thank God you are honest enough this time to agree that Zik pulled NCNC out of the NPC-NCNC coalition in 1964.
Now, the question is: why didn't Zik do that in 1962 when the NPC-NCNC just started using Akintola and unconstitutional methods in trying to take over the West and kill AG? Why did he wait till 1964 after Akintola had won the battle and shaken off the NCNC in the West before he pulled NCNC out of the coalition at the center? I need answers.

1. Operation wetie was a revolt against Akintola/Balewa/Sardauna government (NNA) for rigging the 1965 elections. You have not provided evidence that Zik approved troops to go and kill people you don shift to new collection of lies tufiakwa!

2. You also claimed that Zik and Akintola had a coalition but you haven't proved it either.

3. Zik realigned the NCNC with a coalition with UMBC, remnants of AG and NEPU after western region NCNC members defected to Akintola's group.

4. Who denied that Zik pulled out of the coalition. These things are even in pamphlets you can buy at bus stops how shallow are you?

ebufa:







Treachery of course! we all know that great deceiver that Betrayed The Most High ........you people learned well from him........the treachery of a sharp 2 edge sword has no comparison to afonja betrayal nah! from Awo and action group betrayal of ZIK and NCNC.............to Afenifere betrayal of MKO.....una motto na betray all betrayables.......Anago!Anago !! Anago people even betrayal (Yoruba, alias unreliable in Hausa) has taken your real name!

Mazi Osu pig.
This thread epitomises the trachearous tendencies of the Igbo.
How Igbos killed the leaders of other groups while sparing theirs . The so called corrupt government was a coalition of the Igbo and Fulanis but Igbos in their usual hypocrisy and back stabbing nature murdered others in cold blood while shielding theirs.


Azikwe cowardly ran to the carribean for an endless health cruise.
The cowardly and trachearous Igbo tribe derailed Nigeria's progress till this moment.

You backstabbing cowards east of the niger river would continue reaping the fruits of your generational treachery till the end of time in our political space .

You'd continue wailing endlessly for the elusive Biafra for betraying the whole of Nigeria .
Backstabbing bastards!!

Deadlytruth:

Your problem is that after recovering from the shock of any hard fact or superior logic you see, you gather yourself up again and begin to throw tantrums.
The mere fact that you mentioned Wikipedia as a credible source of information is enough evidence that you are the intellectually shallow one here. Only a hardline ignoramus would shamelessly speak confidently of Wikipedia which has a visible edit button that makes its contents easily editable by any Tom Dick and Harry. Even you yourself can edit Wikipedia. All you need to is search for the information on Google, click on the icon that looks like a pen, move your cursor to the very sentence you want to edit and then delete or add any information you wish to. Then click on the "post" button and that's all. Try it right away and see for yourself.

Now, you said Zik had no powers of his own whatsoever hence couldn't be accused of any wrong done by the NPC-NCNC coalition government. Then again you now claim Nzeogwu and co were after the entire government inclusive of Zik obviously for the misrule and abuse of power by that government. My question now is that: why did they include the Zik who occupied a powerless position in that government hence didn't do any wrong according to you?
Ot are you suggesting that Nzeogwu and co had a personal beef with Zik which they only wanted to settle the scores with the coup?
The reason they were after Balewa was his abuse of office. Okotie-Eboh's was perceived corruption. Akintola's was his abuse of power in the West. What was Zik's own who was a figurehead and had no powers he could abuse according to you? Please answer.

More epistles.... Zik was a member of the government so he was also a target. If you dont accept what even some of the plotters like Ademoyega have confirmed then you are free to conjure up any bad belle thoughts you like

You are still trying to use epistles to cover your ignorance. I'm still asking you, where is the evidence that Zik approved for troops to go and kill people

Deadlytruth:


If you had been able to convincingly discredit the source before dismissing the contents verbally, I would have taken you seriously as that is what intelligent persons do if they can't provide counter evidence to a documental evidence.

Okay no vex. Just bring the source of the information. I dey wait

joeyfire:


1. Operation wetie was a revolt against Akintola/Balewa/Sardauna government (NNA) for rigging the 1965 elections. You have not provided evidence that Zik approved troops to go and kill people you don shift to new collection of lies tufiakwa!

2. You also claimed that Zik and Akintola had a coalition but you haven't proved it either.

3. Zik realigned the NCNC with a coalition with UMBC, remnants of AG and NEPU after western region NCNC members defected to Akintola's group.

4. Who denied that Zik pulled out of the coalition. These things are even in pamphlets you can by at bus stops how shallow are you?

Before the rigging of 1965 elections, two censuses had also been rigged in 1962 and 1963 by the Balewa-Zik government. Also, Akintola had been installed on Western Region without any election hence a higher form of rigging. Again, the federal elections of 1965 had also been rigged by the Akintola-Balewa coalition government yet all these didn't spark off operation Wetie, only for the 1965 regional election alone to spark it off? Is your brain paining you?

I have asked you why Nzeogwu and co included Zik in their hit list if Zik had no powers to have done anything in that government as you would have us believe. So Nzeogwu and co were just out to kill an innocent figurehead position holder? Tufiakwa!

The Western Region NCNC members were in support of Akintola even while he was still in a faction of AG battling to save himself from impeachment. At least one of them, Ebubedike, broke the mace of the Western House in his attempt of resisting Akintola's impeachment. They also remained with him while he formed NNDP after he was expelled from the AG. So why didn't Zik expell those Western NCNC members and then immediately realigned the party with UMBC, AG remnants and NEPU since they were already working for Akintola? So seeing that they were already pro-Akintola and that their formal defection to Akintola's party was just a question of time, why didn't Zik do the realignment immediately if he wasn't in support for their pro-Akintola leanings? How does it even make sense that Zik who was part and parcel of a government wasn't in support of an evil being perpetrated by that government yet he did protest within that government or resign his position?
You just keep shifting the goalpost.

Then most importantly, why did Zik ever enter into alliance with the NPC which was owned by the core Hausafulani elements that had been killing Igbos in the North in 1945 and 1953 if Zik was a sensible person who really wanted a just, fair and equitable Nigeria. If Zik didn't mind giving power to a section of the country which had been killing his own brothers far before independence, why would any sensible person think he wasn't comfortable and supportive of Balewa abusing power to cause unrest all over and use the army illegally to kill peaceful protesters?

Deadlytruth:

Again, the federal elections of 1965 had also been rigged by the Akintola-Balewa coalition government yet all these didn't spark off operation Wetie, only for the 1965 regional election alone to spark it off? Is your brain paining you?

You don smoke abi

Edited: just seeing you corrected yourself. What happened in the "1962 elections"?

joeyfire:


More epistles.... Zik was a member of the government so he was also a target. If you dont accept what even some of the plotters like Ademoyega have confirmed then you are free to conjure up any bad belle thoughts you like

You are still trying to use epistles to cover your ignorance. I'm still asking you, where is the evidence that Zik approved for troops to go and kill people

You mean just because Adegoyega made such claim in his book you would retire your brain under your anus and just take his word for the truth?
When you read accounts of events, you put on your thinking cap to be able to separate the truth from lies. Have you ever seen any author write to indict himself of any wrongdoing?
Why were they after Zik whom you claim was suffering executive paralysis hence couldn't have been involved in any evil of that government? This is such a simple question. I don't know why you are avoiding it like a plague.

joeyfire:


You don smoke abi

Edited: just seeing you corrected yourself. What happened in the "1962 elections"?

I have seen weed smokers who after having taken a heavy dose themselves, begin to see others smoking in their hallucination. I think that is what you are passing through now. I wrote 1962 and 1963 censuses and not elections.

Deadlytruth:

Before the rigging of 1965 elections, two censuses had also been rigged in 1962 and 1963 by the Balewa-Zik government.

You are lacking common sense. No jokes

There was no census in 1962. The first census was conducted in 1961 which Balewa annulled when he saw that the south seemed to be having more numbers. Why would Zik, a southerner that would have been favoured by the results support it when it would have worked against his political interests

juman:
Today they are crying to go back to the region thing.

What of you!? You mean you’re crying for the status-quo to remain!?

joeyfire:


More epistles.... Zik was a member of the government so he was also a target. If you dont accept what even some of the plotters like Ademoyega have confirmed then you are free to conjure up any bad belle thoughts you like

You are still trying to use epistles to cover your ignorance. I'm still asking you, where is the evidence that Zik approved for troops to go and kill people

Some members of the government weren't targeted. Shagari, Ribadu, Amaechi, etc were ministers in that government but weren't targeted like Okotie-Eboh their fellow minister. Nwafor Orizu was the Senate President and wasn't targeted. Ademulegun, Shodeinde, Largema, Gwam Pam, Maimalari, etc weren't members of the government but we're all targeted each for some different individual reasons. For example, Largema was accused of being too close to Akintola and even providing him with a military rifle.
So if Zik was targeted, there must be a reason.

Deadlytruth:

You mean just because Adegoyega made such claim in his book you would retire your brain under your anus and just take his word for the truth?

Ademoyega that was among the coup plotters said they were after the entire executive branch of government. Or you have more inside knowledge than him?

For 10th and last time what's your proof that Zik approved troops to go brutalize people? Or is his placement on the Nzeogwu list what you call proof?

joeyfire:


You are lacking common sense. No jokes

There was no census in 1962. The first census was conducted in 1961 which Balewa annulled when he saw that the south seemed to be having more numbers. Why would Zik, a southerner that would have been favoured by the results support it when it would have worked against his political interests

You are lacking in brain. Those who actually complained about the first census were Southerner so how could they have complained about a census that gave them the upper hand? Go and get your facts right.
If the first census favoured the South, then why did Southerners allege rigging?
You obviously have no use for logical reasoning. In both censuses the figures allocated to the North beat those of the South combined.