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Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by joeyfire(m): 8:03am On Dec 29, 2021 |
Deadlytruth: Cowardly and highly empty, hiding behind long empty epistles. How was Nigeria working? 2 Likes |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by joeyfire(m): 8:06am On Dec 29, 2021 |
This is how Nigeria was working... Dead bodies littering the streets and fire everywhere https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHqgExmErfQ Cowardice breeds dishonesty like flies dey follow shit 2 Likes |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Deadlytruth(m): 8:13am On Dec 29, 2021 |
joeyfire:Idiotic pig from AfghanEASTern Republic. Repeating the same question like a broken record and pretending not to be able to read. What does it mean for a country to be working in your own idea if you have one at all? Coconut head! 2 Likes |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by joeyfire(m): 8:18am On Dec 29, 2021 |
Deadlytruth: These childish rants mean nothing How could Nigeria have been working with the thousands killed in the western region civil war (operation wetie) or the 4000 estimated killed in the Tiv riots of 1964? Or the rigged western region elections that provoked Nzeogwu, Ademoyega & co to overthrow the government? 2 Likes |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by joeyfire(m): 8:27am On Dec 29, 2021 |
What a useless thread...the OP's claim about regional govt & Ironsi were busted, claim that Nigeria was working were busted. OP's true intellectual capacity also busted 2 Likes |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by joeyfire(m): 8:32am On Dec 29, 2021 |
Deadlytruth: Operation wetie aka Akintola vs Awo I was expecting an engaging exchange but you are falling apart with your emotions outside. Awo wanted to pursue an alliance with NCNC but Akintola had opened Western region nyash for Sardauna and his party. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV1KKPJZdjQ 2 Likes |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Deadlytruth(m): 8:34am On Dec 29, 2021 |
joeyfire:That is why I say you are a crass ignoramus. Operation Wetie was remotely caused by the fact that Tafawa Balewa, with the support of Igbo members of the Western Region House of Assembly and the Federal Parliament, violated the clear provisions of that constitution by reinstalling Akintola as Western Region Premier without election contrary to the dictates of the Western Region Constitution. The rigging of the 1965 election was also as a long term fall out of Zik's decision to collude with Balewa to flagrantly violate that same constitution by way of disobeying the Privy Council's verdict on Akintola through a retroactive bill passed by majority votes of the Igbo and Northern members of the parliament which overode the Privy Council's verdict retroactively to install Akintola who was at that time still an ally of Zik in his push to decapitate AG and put Awolowo out of circulation in order that his NCNC would take over the West by hook or crook. Go and read you little ignorant thing! 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by joeyfire(m): 8:37am On Dec 29, 2021 |
Deadlytruth: calm down and stop crying. Provide evidence of these your lies above. "Zik was in alliance with Akintola" I don dey sorry for you really 2 Likes |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by joeyfire(m): 8:40am On Dec 29, 2021 |
The way this OP is desperately clutching at straws deserves pity...nothing dey work for am. Just digging a deeper hole for his thread with each post 2 Likes |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Christistruth00: 8:43am On Dec 29, 2021 |
Idiko1: Rubbish Ugboma who was an indigene of Ozubulu in Anambra State left the Army immediately after he was Commissioned to become a Teacher From then on Wellington Bassey Of Calabar became the most Senior Officer and NA1 Wellington Umoh Bassey was not Ironsi’s mate in the Army he was more than 3 years his Senior Officer https://www.sunnewsonline.com/gen-adeyinka-adebayos-last-interview-echoes-of-january-15-1966-coup-why-the-army-struck/ 1 Like
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Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Deadlytruth(m): 8:51am On Dec 29, 2021 |
joeyfire: The rift between Akintola and Awolowo initially took a legal and lawful procedure hence the AG set in motion a process to impeach Akintola which was sailing through very easily. But out of fear of the AG's soaring popularity among the masses on the strength of its democratic socialism campaign, the Zik and Balewa coalition government at the center decided to interfer in the impeachment process using unlawful tactics which involved teargassing AG members of the Western House, Zik's loyalists in the Assembly e.g. Ebubedike or so breaking the mace, and finally the imposition of state of emergency on the whole Western Region for a disturbance just within the House of Assembly all in a bid to strengthen Akintola unfairly in order that NCNC would take over the West forcefully and then align the West with the North to shame Awolowo and AG. Without Azikiwe and Balewa unlawful intervention, Akintola would have been easily impeached and there wouldn't have been anything like Operation Wetie. So anyhow you look at it, it all stemmed from the violation of the federal constitution by Azikiwe in pursuit of his dubious agenda to suppress AG. 6 Likes |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by joeyfire(m): 8:54am On Dec 29, 2021 |
Deadlytruth: Pure and complete rubbish that you can never back up with sources. Don't rush to reply. First go and watch that video so you dont disgrace yourself further... But as a good brother let me help you small. When did AG form the alliance with NCNC? Now run along and do your research like a good boy 2 Likes |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Christistruth00: 8:55am On Dec 29, 2021 |
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Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Christistruth00: 9:02am On Dec 29, 2021 |
Idiko1: Stop lying Wellington Umoh Bassey was Efik from Calabar Both Azikiwe and Gen Adebayo Confirmed that Bassey was even made an Officer in the Royal West African Frontier Force in April of 1944 during the 2nd World War As of 1954 Wellington Bassey was the most Senior West African Army Officer This is the London Gazette. From April 1954 with the Seniority dates of Bassey and Ironsi in it Wellington Bassey’s Seniority date was 30th April 1944 Aguiyi-Ironsi’s Seniority date was 8 th October 1947 The next Picture has their equivalents Officer Seniority dates in the Nigerian Army Wellington Umoh Bassey Of Calabar was not Gen Ironsi’s nor Ojukwu’s mate Bassey was Ironsi’s Senior Officer by more than 3 years and Ojukwu’s senior officer by more than 11 years Bassey’s deliberately delayed Promotions was the result of the Wickedness Azikiwe. as Governor General and his Party inflicted on Bassey just for his kinsman Gen Ironsi to emerge as Head of the Nigerian Army Bassey was not Promoted until after Ironsi had become head of the Nigerian Army and Col Ojukwu had become the Governor of the Eastern Region Wellington Umoh Bassey Of Calabar Commanded the Independence Day Parade Of 1st October 1960 and never left the Army until he retired Wellington Bassey was a Major in 1954 and part of the Selection board that recruited Gowon into the Army How could Wellington Umoh Bassey have been a Major in 1954 if he had joined the Army in 1953 ? https://www.sunnewsonline.com/gen-adeyinka-adebayos-last-interview-echoes-of-january-15-1966-coup-why-the-army-struck/ 2 Likes
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Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Christistruth00: 9:07am On Dec 29, 2021 |
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Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by joeyfire(m): 9:08am On Dec 29, 2021 |
joeyfire: I still dey wait for evidence of the Zik/Akintola alliance that only Deadlytruth abi na Deadlylies witnessed 2 Likes |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Deadlytruth(m): 9:51am On Dec 29, 2021 |
joeyfire: https://www.academia.edu/6198062/The_Fall_of_the_First_Republic Page 14: The NCNC had repeatedly tried to break up the Western Region in the past, but had failed to pull it off in parliament when the AG was then strong enough to act as an effective bargainer for Yoruba interests Page 11: Twice the Awolowo faction tried to convene the Regional Assembly, twice the Akintola faction violently disrupted the session, and twice necessitating the police to clear the Regional parliament with tear gas. The parliamentary brawls finally drew the two governing parties directly into the fray. Lured by the opportunity to destroy the AG and win the West for themselves, the NPC and NCNC wasted no time in capitalising on the chaos. Using their control of the federal government, they controlled at the center. Page 13: 1963 brought no respite for the rapidly collapsing AG. On the 1st of January, to the surprise of few, Akintola was re-installed as Regional Premier without an election. An election would have revived the flagging fortunes of the AG as Alhaji Adgbenro, the party candidate, would almost certainly have won. Akintola’s return was only made possible by his alliance with one of the governing duo-the NCNC. In return, Akintola rewarded his Eastern ally with a “generous share of power in the West”, resulting in the NCNC scooping up numerous regional ministerial portfolios Page 15: The eminent Stanford political scientist, Larry Diamond, in his Class, Ethnicity and Democracy in Nigeria, described the collapse of the AG thus: The breadth and magnitude of the defeat inflicted upon Chief Awolowo and his AG supporters by the NPC and the NCNC was simply staggering. Not only did the Awolowo Action Group lose the power struggle in the West, it was also destroyed as an effective opposition force . The collapse of the AG immediately led to realignments in the political constellation. With his regional rival in jail and his grip over the West consolidated, Akintola shook off his alliance with the NCNC, dismissed their members from the regional cabinet, formed a new party – the Nigerian National Democratic Party (NNDP) – and realigned it with the NPC. Page 16: The Northern Region now stood poised to bring Nigeria under its sole captaincy. Maitama Sule, then an NPC Federal Minister, however, observing the changes taking place, remarked with breath-taking confidence:“In a very short time, the NPC will rule the whole of Nigeria”.Eastern Regional Premier (and Zik loyalist,) Michael Okpara, recognising that the emerging political balance would be unfavourable to the East,[tried to “draw back” from the “total extinction” of the AG" Now you see how Zik's loyalists in NCNC were everywhere supporting Akintola and Balewa's illegal and unconstitutional methods of killing the AG because they knew that they wouldn't be able to achieve such within the confines of the independence constitution which gave autonomy to each region. You can also see where Michael Okpara publicly began to draw back from the anahilation of the AG because he feared that such a scenario would now endanger his own Eastern Region. You can see that his concern was about his own Eastern Region alone and not about the entire South that was in trouble at that moment. You see how self centered you Igbos have always been? You only pretend to believe in Southern unity whenever your friendship with the Hausafulanis go sour. Now, do people withdraw or draw back from a thing they never took part in? If Okpara and Zik were never involved in the schemings of NPC-NCNC coalition government to kill AG through taking sides with Akintola in the rift with Awolowo, what then were they selfishly backing out from when their Eastern Region became endangered by the emerging political omnipotence of the North as threatened by Maitama Sule? 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Deadlytruth(m): 10:01am On Dec 29, 2021 |
joeyfire: You already have it above. What were Michael Okpara and Azikiwe backing out from? Why couldn't Azikiwe resign from the coalition government between his party NCNC and NPC if he wasn't really in support of all that the government was doing in the West? Can you provide a single evidence of an instance in which Zik publicly condemned his slave master Balewa over his unlawful interference in a purely internal affair of the Region? At least Okotie-Eboh who was himself also part of the whole plot came back to his senses on seeing his fellow Midwesterner Enahoro suffering in jail for rather fictitious charges hence he began to publicly call on Balewa to shake off the apron strings of Ahmadu Bello and rely purely on his conscience in handling the situation. Ironically this was the Okotie-Eboh you Igbos murdered by twisting his head through 360⁰ while you left the Azikiwe who never protested walk free. What a wicked and demonic people! 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Christistruth00: 10:06am On Dec 29, 2021 |
Deadlytruth: Thanks for this This was exactly how Azikiwe ganged up with Balewa and others to frustrate Wellington Bassey’s Army Career because the British had been grooming Wellington Bassey to takeover leadership of the Nigerian Army Azikiwe was supposed to have been fighting for Bassey’s timely Promotions so that Bassey could emerge as the Army Head that the British had been Preparing him for The fact that Wellington Bassey was from Azikiwe’s own Eastern Region was completely irrelevant to Azikiwe and all his Calculations After Azikiwe saw that they had failed to frustrate Bassey to leave the Army they now made sure Wellington Bassey was abandoned in a Captain’s Posting at Zaria depot while his Junior Ironsi was being sent on Promotional Trainings and Postings that were meant for Wellington Bassey !! And What was Wellington Bassey’s Offence to deserve such brutal Wickedness from Azikiwe? Wellington Bassey was from Calabar !! 3 Likes |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Deadlytruth(m): 10:22am On Dec 29, 2021 |
joeyfire: Another bold and shameless attempt at revisionism you and your kinsmen are renowned for. The AG-NCNC alliance which became the UPGA was formed in 1964 after Michael Okpara and Azikiwe had completely backed out of their journey to self anihilation which first looked like the anihilation of the AG in their eyes as revealed in the details I poured out from that source above. Recall that it was in early 1964 that Michael Okpara was delegated by the NCNC from the East to visit Awolowo's wife in Ibadan (Awolowo himself now in prison hence couldn't be reached directly except through his wife) with the aim of first apologizing to her for Azikiwe's rejection of the proposed AG-NCNC-NDC alliance four years earlier, and then making amends by proposing the formation of a new Yoruba-Igbo alliance since the NNA (The new Akintola-Balewa coalition) had used underhand tactics to get Dennis Osadebe of the Midwest into their fold. Initially, AG youths threatened to turn Michael Okpara back in rejection of his proposal but Awolowo's wife prevailed on them to give him a second chance owing to the danger staring at the south and likely to finally place everyone under Hausafulani hegemony perpetually as threatened by Maitama Sule. 5 Likes |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Igbokid: 10:35am On Dec 29, 2021 |
ebufa:Nyamuri scum! Ndi cannibals ! Terrorist in chief of Ariara/Upper Iweka ! Which is the worst? Your dirtiness , legendary treachery or collective stupidity! 1 Like |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Deadlytruth(m): 10:39am On Dec 29, 2021 |
Christistruth00: You should by now know that these people are allergic to documented hard facts hence will only reply by verbal dismissal of these documents you are providing but without providing any superior one. Look at how that Joyfire was celebrating her posting of a video in which Akintola spoke Yoruba, which I am sure she doesn't understand, all the while I was composing my comprehensive evidence of Azikiwe's involvement in the Western Region crisis but ran away like Ojukwu did to Ivory Coast once I posted the response. She will come back later to just dismiss the whole thing verbally without providing any document for evidence. Just watch out. 5 Likes |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Christistruth00: 10:45am On Dec 29, 2021 |
Deadlytruth: The most shocking thing was there was a deliberate attempt to alter the documented facts to make it look like Wellington Bassey only joined the Army in 1953 instead of 1936 Some were even arguing that Bassey left the Army in 1953 If not that Gen Gowon had documented in his biography that Wellington Bassey was already a Major in 1954 when he was part of the Selection Board that had recruited Gowon into the Army and Gen Adebayo had also confirmed that Bassey was the most. Senior Officer at Independence one almost fell for their lies and deceit All to deceive People into thinking Gen Ironsi was Wellington. Bassey’s Senior and not his Junior Which Ironsi was Can you believe that it was Gowon whom Bassey helped to recruit into the Army when he was a Major in 1954 that finally Promoted Wellington Bassey to Brigadier after Gowon took Power in July 1966 Ironsi who was more than 3 years Wellington Bassey’s Junior Officer was already a Brigadier in 1964 What nonsense was that ? Truth always Triumphs over falsehood and lies because God Almighty is a God of Truth 3 Likes |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by joeyfire(m): 11:12am On Dec 29, 2021 |
Deadlytruth: So your evidence of your claim of an alliance between Zik and Akintola are plenty of speculations and tribalistic beer parlour theories such as "Why didn't zik resign"? Why did zik wear white agbada? Why did zik drink water? Your lengthy, meaningless rants don't mean a thing. You can't dodge the initial question with all this crap and epistles..So Nigeria was working before Ironsi? 2 Likes |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Deadlytruth(m): 11:17am On Dec 29, 2021 |
Christistruth00:Have you ever noticed that despite their claims that Yorubas are evil, deceptive, etc, etc and that they hate Yorubas on account of that, they however love Obasanjo far more than all their heroes combined. What Obasanjo would say or do and they would gloss over it, another figure from even among their Igbo nation would say it and they would take him to the cleaners. In one debate with one of them here over the state by state results of the 2015 election, he insulted Edo State people with unprintable names for on the complaint that the 40% Buhari got there was too much from a SS state. I reminded him that Buhari got almost 30% too in Imo but all that fell on his deaf ears, then he continued ranting that Edos are evil, sellouts, black sheeps, willing slaves to Buhari, blah blah blah. Then somehow the debate digressed into Obasanjo's administration. I was shocked when this guy began to label Obasanjo as a patriot, a bridge builder, a defender of SE and SS interests, etc. Then I reminded him that the same Obasanjo supported Buhari for 2015 so how does that make him a defender of SE and SS interests and a far lesser support from Edo State for Buhari made Edo people sell outs to the SS and SE interests. He was short of words and cleverly left that thread. This left me wondering why these people harbour such a blind and self destructive love for Obasanjo. It was later I discovered that Obasanjo wrote a book on Nigeria's political history in which he distorted many facts to please them. In my entire life I have never seen any other people who are so emotional and so much love lies and revisionism. 6 Likes |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Deadlytruth(m): 11:19am On Dec 29, 2021 |
joeyfire: So you couldn't see where it is clearly stated in the story that Zik was the leader of the NCNC which spearheaded all that negative activities? You didn't see whete Okpara, the foremost Zik loyalist, decided to draw back? You are simply beyond salvage. And I have asked you why Zik decided to team up with Balewa to start violating a constitution which kept Nigeria working. Before independence we were even already operating that system. So why wasn't there operation wetie before Zik and Balewa combo and Ironsi's onslaught on that constitution? That source I have provided put to bed all your revisionist tales. 5 Likes |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by joeyfire(m): 11:22am On Dec 29, 2021 |
[quote author=Deadlytruth post=108902958[/quote] Calm down so you can post properly You claimed that operation wetie was a form "resistance" to Okpara and Zik? 1 Like |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by joeyfire(m): 11:26am On Dec 29, 2021 |
All this awada keri-keri is amusing to be honest but back to the basics.....So Nigeria was working with Operation Wetie and All the chaos? Very soon you will say operation wetie was caused by Ironsi smh 1 Like |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Deadlytruth(m): 11:29am On Dec 29, 2021 |
[quote author=joeyfire post=108903020][/quote] I said it was a resistance to the Zik's and Balewa's violations of the independence constitution through which Nigeria was making progress. Is it too difficult for you to understand? I already said it that you will only return to dismiss the hard evidence without providing any contrary facts. Aren't I vindicated now? You said Nzeogwu planned a coup right? Why was Zik's name number 1 on the hit list of Nzeogwu? Recall that the coup was inspired by the unlawfulness of the Zik-Balewa government which used the army to kil peacefully demonstrating Tiv and Okrika people. Where in that constitution was the army given the power to quell demonstration where the police was? 3 Likes |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by Deadlytruth(m): 11:33am On Dec 29, 2021 |
joeyfire: You are now suffering from the agony of defeat. We all believe that America is working even though there are frequent uprisings there, for example the case of George Floyd, the Marthin Luther King protest, the, American civil war which saw deaths of thousands of civilians, the 1961 invasion of a university by the American police which left many students dead on campus, the Herbert Hoover protests that nearly set the country on fire, the recent invasion of Capitol complex by protesters in support of Donald Trump, the Watergate Scandal, the bombings of WTC which recorded over 3000 deaths, etc. Going by your silly idea of a working society we can say America has never worked because all the following happened there right? You are simply a dunce! 4 Likes |
Re: Unanswered Questions On Ironsi And The Regional System. by christistruth01: 11:36am On Dec 29, 2021 |
Deadlytruth: Imagine Wellington Bassey who was already a Major in 1954 , 3 years before Ojukwu joined the Army in 1957 was still on the same Lt Col Rank as Ojukwu in Jan of 1966 !!! What did Azikiwe and Ironsi do to Correct this alarming atrocity and injustice against Wellington Bassey of Calabar Gen Ironsi rubbed more salt into his wounds by making Ojukwu who was 11 years Wellington Bassey's Junior Premier of the Eastern Region Ironsi get mind O ! Imagine! Wellington Bassey who was Ironsi's own Senior Officer by more than 3 years !! Azikiwe,Ironsi and Ojukwu walked all over Bassey like he was a Carpet So why exactly was Ojukwu Screaming Seniority at Gowon while he himself was Standing on Bassey's head who was his Father as an Army Officer Gen Adebayo said in an interview that the Jan 1966 Coup was the Work of over ambitious boys who wanted to reach the Top of their Army Careers before their forefathers 1 Like |
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