The koran is supposed to be the speech of allah, yet allah speaks about himself in 3rd Person and also as being more than one person:

030.024 YUSUFALI: And among His Signs, [3rd person] He shows you the lightning, by way both of fear and of hope, and He sends down rain from the sky and with it gives life to the earth after it is dead: verily in that are Signs for those who are wise.

007.057 YUSUFALI: It is He [3rd person] Who sendeth the winds like heralds of glad tidings, going before His mercy: when they have carried the heavy-laden clouds, We [1st person plural] drive them to a land that is dead, make rain to descend thereon, and produce every kind of harvest therewith: thus shall We [1st person plural] raise up the dead: perchance ye may remember.

Allah himself doesn't even understand what monotheism is.

Quran was sent to Mohammad SAW through angel Gabriel or Jibril.. so therefore the angel had to speak of third party Allah

Just like Angel Gabriel brought the message of Jesus coming to marry quoting a third party God

Only Moses , Abraham and Adam had seen God in physical light form

techmo:
Quran was sent to Mohammad SAW through angel Gabriel or Jibril.. so therefore the angel had to speak of third party Allah

Hahahahahaha

So the koran is the word of Jibril and not allah?

techmo:
Quran was sent to Mohammad SAW through angel Gabriel or Jibril.. so therefore the angel had to speak of third party Allah

Just like Angel Gabriel brought the message of Jesus coming to marry quoting a third party God

Only Moses , Abraham and Adam had seen God in physical light form

AllahIsSatan:
So the koran is the word of Jibril and not allah?

Quran is the word of God spoken to Jibril, and passed by Jibril to Mohammad SAW to document and pass to mankind as a chosen prophet

Guys Imam Mahdi is here and he has explained some hidden secrets from the Quran

His name is Nasser Mohammad Al-Yemeni

https://www.ponder.zone/q/interview-with-imam-mahdi-nasser-mohamed-al-yemeni

Then why does allah refer to himsel as "We" in the koran? Is Jibril allah's partner?

techmo:



Quran is the word of God spoken to Jibril, and passed by Jibril to Mohammad SAW to document and pass to mankind as a chosen prophet

AllahIsSatan:
Then why does allah refer to himsel as "We" in the koran? Is Jibril allah's partner?

Which verse is that and under what context

Context? The koran doesn't have any context.

007.057 YUSUFALI: It is He [3rd person] Who sendeth the winds like heralds of glad tidings, going before His mercy: when they have carried the heavy-laden clouds, We [1st person plural] drive them to a land that is dead, make rain to descend thereon, and produce every kind of harvest therewith: thus shall We [1st person plural] raise up the dead: perchance ye may remember.

techmo:


Which verse is that and under what context

techmo:
Quran was sent to Mohammad SAW through angel Gabriel or Jibril.. so therefore the angel had to speak of third party Allah

Just like Angel Gabriel brought the message of Jesus coming to marry quoting a third party God

Only Moses , Abraham and Adam had seen God in physical light form

At the bolded none had seen Allah, pls do research on it.

Prophet Musa (AS) who requested to see the face of Allah only saw the light and he fainted, Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) only conversed with Allah directly as some of his predecessors without seeing Allah.

You can make research on BEATIFICATION OF ALLAH, lot of sects penned down their arguments stipulated with facts, browse about it...

AllahIsSatan:
Then why does allah refer to himsel as "We" in the koran? Is Jibril allah's partner?

Linguistically, you can refer yourself to as WE and if we ordinary and or powerless human can refer to ourselves as WE then why would a supernatural being who created the universe and Knowledge won’t refer to himself as WE.

My dear brother, it’s better u first search for Linguistic knowledge.

Linguistically, it is only when there's more than one person that the plural pronoun of "We" can be used!

Linguistically, it is erroneous for ONE person to refer to himself or herself as WE because the word WE has a plural meaning assigned to it.

ONE person would refer to himself as "I" or "Me" not "We "

So the question remains, why does Allah refer to himself as WE which should only be used when more than one person is being referred to?

Akinbahm:


Linguistically, you can refer yourself to as WE and if we ordinary and or powerless human can refer to ourselves as WE then why would a supernatural being who created the universe and Knowledge won’t refer to himself as WE.

My dear brother, it’s better u first search for Linguistic knowledge.

AllahIsSatan:
Linguistically, it is only when there's more than one person that the plural pronoun of "We" can be used!

Nah. There is the plural of royalty, also known as the "majestic plural."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_we

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Majestic plural is used by Kings when they speak about the plurality of themselves and their royal family/court. It is a human convention which a monarch uses to signify that he rules with the consent of his people. Does Allah need the consent of Muslims?

DeepSight:


Nah. There is the plural of royalty, also known as the "majestic plural."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_we

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AllahIsSatan:
Majestic plural is used by Kings when they speak about the plurality of themselves and their royal family/court. It is a human convention which a monarch uses to signify that he rules with the consent of his people. Does Allah need the consent of Muslims?

The majestic plural has variegated character and is also deployed to represent sovereignty. In the context used by the Quran, it may be called the plural of divinity.

Look, i abhor religion, especially the Abrahamic faiths, but you should find stronger points to quibble with.
This is a non-starter.

Majestic plurality is a man made concept. It is only used by a monarch when speaking officially in his capacity as the sovereign ruler of his subjects. It signifies that he speaks with the consent of the governed (his loyal subjects)
How does it apply to a supposedly uncreated, eternal God?

DeepSight:


The majestic plural has variegated character and is also deployed to represent sovereignty. In the context used by the Quran, it may be called the plural of divinity.

Look, i abhor religion, especially the Abrahamic faiths, but you should find stronger points to quibble with.
This is a non-starter.

AllahIsSatan:
Majestic plurality is a man made concept. It is only used by a monarch when speaking officially in his capacity as the sovereign ruler of his subjects. It signifies that he speaks with the consent of the governed (his loyal subjects)
How does it apply to a supposedly uncreated, eternal God?

People of faith tend to also view God as a King.
Therefore the best you can quibble with on this will still amount to mere semantics.

But would an eternal, uncreated "god" define himself using the language of humans? Remember that Muslims claim the koran is the LITERAL word of their "god" allah, not the inspired word of God which is how Christians define the Bible.

DeepSight:


People of faith tend to also view God as a King.
Therefore the best you can quibble with on this will still amount to mere semantics.

AllahIsSatan:
But would an eternal, uncreated "god" define himself using the language of humans? Remember that Muslims claim the koran is the LITERAL word of their "god" allah, not the inspired word of God which is how Christians define the Bible.

All the same, Arabic is a human language.

PS: When you said the majestic plural signified that monarchs ruled with the consent of their people. This is not true. They didnt rule with the consent of their people. They were considered to be divinely appointed by inherited right or conquest. The plural generally signified their eminence and grandeur.

The we could have represented a number of jinns

AllahIsSatan:
Linguistically, it is only when there's more than one person that the plural pronoun of "We" can be used!

Linguistically, it is erroneous for ONE person to refer to himself or herself as WE because the word WE has a plural meaning assigned to it.

ONE person would refer to himself as "I" or "Me" not "We "

So the question remains, why does Allah refer to himself as WE which should only be used when more than one person is being referred to?