Ammishaddai:
So what about Thessalonians and 2Peter ? Is it still not the apostles of Jesus ?

MaxInDHouse:


Grave is a place of inactive so Jesus meant that Satan and his demons should be sent to a place of inactivity where they will no longer be able to cause confusion, but such a place is not meant for Adam's innocent descendants who found themselves in imperfect state of condition!

MaxInDHouse:


Quote where HellFire is mentioned anywhere else apart from Jesus' parables!

Ammishaddai:
That is still not true . The bible clearly defines what hell really is and it is not a place of inactivity, rather it is a place of torment and torture . See Revelations 14 :11 : "And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name

This certainly does not look like a place of inactivity , instead it sounds like a place of weeping, wailing and anguish. Which are activities that men engage in

Ammishaddai:
The book of Revelations20:14: . And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

MaxInDHouse:


Jesus is still the one speaking in symbolic terms Sir so if you don't ask his true disciples you can never understand what he meant there!

MaxInDHouse:


Jesus is still the person talking here:

The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John, Revelations 1:1

This is what Daniel meant that only few people will UNDERSTAND:

Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understand. Daniel 12:10

Ammishaddai:
Bros, I do not believe that . Why? Because Jesus talked more about hell than He did about heaven in order to warn men of its reality. To deny this and claim His words were symbolic would be the height of foolishness.

Ammishaddai:
This does not clarify anything ,in fact it is not even related to the topic at all.

MaxInDHouse:

No wahala, go out there and fetch ZEALOUS preachers and INDUSTRIOUS teachers who will be as devoted as Jehovah's Witnesses so you can baptize them in the name of your God, no wahala! Matthew 28:19-20

Ammishaddai:
No thanks. I'd rather take my chances by reading on my own and following what was taught by the apostles themselves

achorladey:



Did you see me teach you God is three persons?

cornelboy:

Pls follow discussion abeg.

So what have you been teaching on nairaland?

So what have you been teaching on nairaland?

Dtruthspeaker:


Still deceiving yourself yet again, for you are now deceiving yourself with kill which brings death ONLY ON EARTH, FORGETTING THAT DEATH TOO WILL BE WITH YOU CRYING ITS OWN CRY!

chai! You can lie to yourself Africa Size Lie.

Dtruthspeaker:


Ehen you don talk True!

E remain your former brother in self deceit MaxinDHouse and other jws to stop lying themselves.

Come on out and fly your true colours!

Plus you think the rich man in the Lazarus case did not have such a plan to make hell comfortable?

cornelboy:
..You see for yourself now that what revelation 20:14 means is that death will be destroyed.
Lake of fire symbolises eternal destruction...

Ammishaddai:
[s][/s] Jesus spoke more about hell than heaven . Which is why He said "... It is better to enter into life maimed, than to be cast into the fire , where their worms do not die and the fire is not quenched ". (Matt9:48). This is no other place other than hell

Kobojunkie:
How did you come to the above conclusion?

You seem quick to jump to conclusions but unable to substantiate any of claims made, how come? .

cornelboy:

Your not following the thread totally.

Dtruthspeaker:


That's what I am saying! Death will be with you in the lake of Fire, so,

"...no Cos in reality, when pain becomes too much, unbearable, it would kill. "

You and death will be in the same volcano of destruction.

MaxInDHouse:

It's not everyone that you should respond to their posts, let them go and preach what they know apart from going about saying Jehovah's Witnesses are these and that when they are not even agreeing among themselves!

cornelboy:

Bro come back to your senses. Your going opposite to your senses.
Death is not something that can burn, cry and feel pain.

achorladey:

Wetin be the name of that female moniker discussing with you about WITCHCRAFT and MANIPULATION on nairaland?
Here you are
All of us go learn last last for here

cornelboy:

Pls follow discussion abeg.
So what have you been teaching on nairaland?

achorladey:


My initial post was not directed at you. Learn to follow discussion

We use our eyes to see whatever we want to see including the teachings. Learn

MaxInDHouse:

cornelboy:

I quoted you and you responded. We were even having a meaningful discussion.
Don't try to divert pls.

I don't want to see whatever I want see.
I want to see the TRUTH.

Since you claim to feed on solid food and not baby milk, what's the truth about God's personality?
Is He a singular or a 1 in 3 persons God?
What do you see?

Don't try to divert pls.

I quoted you and you responded. We were even having a meaningful discussion.

I don't want to see whatever I want see. I want to see the TRUTH.

Since you claim to feed on solid food and not baby milk, what's the truth about God's personality?

Is He a singular or a 1 in 3 persons God? What do you see?

MaxInDHouse:

How was the memorial?

achorladey:

Was my initial post about 1 in 3 persons God?
I want to see my diversion

cornelboy:

I missed it. I was very busy at work. Something came up actually.
The couple I'm studying with even called to remind me on WhatsApp. I missed the call cos no data.
I kind of wasn't really prepared for it.

cornelboy:


Mark 9:43
[43]If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It’s better to enter eternal life with only one hand than to go into the unquenchable fires of hell with two hands.

The word Jesus used was knowingly or unknowingly mistranslated to hell.
It's Gehenna which means a literal place call valley of hinnom situated just outside Jerusalem.

Jesus used it to illustrate the place of the wicked. They will die and continue to die. Their smoke will rise up forever. The worms and fire will continue to consume their dead bodies forever.
While the righteous will be given their life back. A new life!

Compare with;
Isaiah 66:24
[24]And as they go out, they will see
    the dead bodies of those who have rebelled against me.
For the worms that devour them will never die,
    and the fire that burns them will never go out.
All who pass by
    will view them with utter horror.”

Ammishaddai:
[s][/s] It is not mistranslated oga ; Jesus said it is actually a place prepared for the Devil, his angels and all those who rebel against God. (Matt25:41)

cornelboy:

You have defended and supported the Roman Catholics dogma about trinity many times at many threads.
Is that your believe about God person?