cornelboy:


I never said some JWs don't sin or get tempted.

cornelboy:

O ti yẹ mi

achorladey:

Mouth don change. Save your face
You now understand that what you call earlier LIES and tarnishing image of your religious organisation as TRUTH? Is this correct?

cornelboy:


Have I ever disputed that JWs don't sin?

There's no reason for me to save face.

So what's your reason for bringing it up here that JWs commit immoral acts? And some kill there fellow man?

Have I ever disputed that JWs don't sin?

There's no reason for me to save face.

cornelboy:

O ti yẹ mi

MaxInDHouse:

Acholardey can continue arguing till next year and you won't get anything tangible point out of his arguments, one thing i've noticed about him is he loves chatting with JWs even though he doesn't want to agree that we're the only religious organization having the TRUTH, Acholardey can stick to a JWs during argument till tomorrow, that's why i often ignore him after exposing him as an argumentator that's inconsistent. He will continue dragging you into pointless arguments of no practical benefit!

achorladey:

Ye e pe documents yen was presented in a real world or fake world. Which one?

MaxInDHouse:

Acholardey can continue arguing till next year and you won't get anything tangible point out of his arguments, one thing i've noticed about him is he loves chatting with JWs even though he doesn't want to agree that we're the only religious organization having the TRUTH, Acholardey can stick to a JWs during argument till tomorrow, that's why i often ignore him after exposing him as an argumentator that's inconsistent. He will continue dragging you into pointless arguments of no practical benefit!

cornelboy:


Okay lemme help you open your reasoning a bit.

Put yourself in my shoes.
Let say your still a JW and otenearon was asking you to present a document to debunk his documents that say JWs has major shares with companies producing weapons of war, is is it possible to present that kind of document?
Would the request be coherent to you?

The documents he presented were obviously forged.
He needs to bring documents from those companies in order to make his claims authentic. Documents that the whole world would know about. Not the ones found on only apostates sites.

I've heard a lot of rumours spread about JWs, this is just one of them.

Nothing you do here can stop the JWs from preaching the gospel of God's Kingdom and applying Christ teachings to their life till the kingdom comes. Amen.

I've heard a lot of rumours spread about JWs, this is just one of them.

Nothing you do here can stop the JWs from preaching the gospel of God's Kingdom and applying Christ teachings to their life till the kingdom comes. Amen

Let say your still a JW and otenearon was asking you to present a document to debunk his documents that say JWs has major shares with companies producing weapons of war, is is it possible to present that kind of document? Would the request be coherent to you?

The documents he presented were obviously forged. He needs to bring d[b]ocuments from those companies in order to make his claims authentic[/b]. Documents that the whole world would know about. Not the ones found on only apostates sites.

cornelboy:


Okay lemme help you open your reasoning a bit.

Put yourself in my shoes.
Let say your still a JW and otenearon was asking you to present a document to debunk his documents that say JWs has major shares with companies producing weapons of war, is is it possible to present that kind of document?
Would the request be coherent to you?

The documents he presented were obviously forged.
He needs to bring documents from those companies in order to make his claims authentic. Documents that the whole world would know about. Not the ones found on only apostates sites.

I've heard a lot of rumours spread about JWs, this is just one of them.

Nothing you do here can stop the JWs from preaching the gospel of God's Kingdom and applying Christ teachings to their life till the kingdom comes. Amen.

achorladey:

Don't help my reasoning, the discussion is not about helping the reasonings here.
Ye e pe documents yen was presented in a real world or fake world. Which one?
Debunk it
Did you see me say I want to stop what you do concerning the preaching work? As long as you remember that whatever you do as well concerning the doctrines of other religious denominations, it won't stop what they do or believe. Agree?
Reality says I am not still a member of your religious organisation. Carry your assumption, speculations and supposition for my face. Na real world I dey not a fake world. Present your evidence to debunk what was presented.
Go and get the ORIGINAL since this is forged. Apply intelligence apply it.You can see the companies abi, go source for it

MaxInDHouse:


The highlighted is what often pain Apostates, when you refused to dance to their tune after all their efforts instantly they'll start accusing you that you're also an accomplice with JWs!

The highlighted is what often pain Apostates,

When you refused to dance to their tune after

all their efforts instantly they'll start accusing you that you're also an accomplice with JWs

cornelboy:


My last reply for you on this thread.

You really need to improve your English.

First, you said documents could be photoshopped.

Now your asking for the originals for forged documents. Don't you know forged documents are originals on their own but sham?

My last reply for you on this thread.

You really need to improve your English.

Now your asking for the originals for forged documents.

Don't you know forged documents are originals on their own but sham?

MaxInDHouse:


Listen to this FOOL!

OK so you expect Jesus to knock on the door of a householder and start saying "WOE UNTO YOU" Shey?

Why are you this stupid?

Is it not when critics come up against Jesus that he spoke his mind against iniquity?

AkinwaleJJ:


Of course they will start arguing but anything against JWs they want to publish, thanks to JEHOVAH their wisdom has been turned to foolishness.
Hence they want JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES to believe that the organization is involved in the production of WEAPONS while members of the same organization are out there preaching zealously and industriously teaching people in all the earth to shun WEAPONS!

OK leave us since we've been brainwashed by the organization but present the same story and documents to people out there, they are expecting us to debunk their fabricated lies!

AgirlsNightmAre:

A little diversion from the topic at hand
I'm not a fan of rumours and unconfirmed reports since information can be manipulated I'm highly selective in what i believe is true.
Now to the question at hand; please answer with sincerity and accurate knowledge of the scriptures:
*Can you show me any archaeological/historical evidence that Jerusalem was destroyed in 607BC?
*Why would Jesus wait for 1,900 years to begin ruling as king when "all authority was given him on Heaven & Earth" after his ressurection?
*Is Jesus Christ your mediator or only for the 144,00?
*Was Jesus an angel before coming to the earth?
*What does our salvation as Christians depends on?
I just want to know your own answers

MaxInDHouse:


The highlighted is really commendable, please keep it up. And don't forget also to find out logical reasoning backing any report or document.
Thank

Please note that you just quoted a post from MaxInDHouse, i used my wife's moniker when the spam bot barred my comments.
So should i still continue responding to your question or leave it?l

oteneaaron:


The HYPOCRISY of MaxInDHouse, Cornelboy, and their beloved Organization never ends.

Well, what do we have here?

After studying the IRS form 990 Income Tax Records for the Fiscal Year 2013 for the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society's Investments handled by the H.M Riley Trust, here are some investments that stood out:

1. The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society own 20,000 shares in BOEING CO

Boeing doesn't only make airplanes, they make MISSILES and are the THIRD LARGEST DEFENSE CONTRACTORS in the world as of 2020.

Check out their Wikipedia page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing

For proof see image #2 below

2. The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society own 30,000 shares in LOCKHEED MARTIN CORP

Lockheed Martin Corporation is an American aerospace, arms, defense, information security, and technology corporation with worldwide interests.

As of 2014, they were the WORLDS LARGEST DEFENSE CONTRACTORS

Check out their Wikipedia page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin

For proof see image #3 below

3. The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society own 90,000 shares in UNITED TECHNOLOGIES CORP

United Technologies merged with RAYTHEON technologies in 2020 - if you recall, we saw that Watchtower as of 2009, was already investing in Raytheon Technologies.

According to their Wikipedia page, United Technologies was a major military contractor and made 10% of its revenue from the U.S Government.

Check out their Wikipedia page -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Technologies

For proof see image #4 below

You can download and view Watchtower's entire investment portfolio for the 2013 fiscal year here -- https://pdfcoffee.com/watchtower-stock-investments-pdf-free.html

So let's get this straight.

An organization that claims to be "God's direct channel of communication" is investing heavily in companies that produce weapons of mass destruction.

They claim to have "erased wars from the mind of their followers.." but their investment portfolio tells a completely different story.

What do we call that?

HYPOCRISY!

HYPOCRISY!!

HYPOCRISY!!!

MaxInDHouse:


Keep crying, it's your portion!

We are humans not robots, and as humans we invest to GAIN (not LOOSE) so if you BELIEVE that any investor could put his/her life-savings in a business and at the same time send out publishers in millions to discourage people from patronizing his own product then what stops you from BELIEVING in Jesus of Nazareth?

oteneaaron:


The HYPOCRISY of MaxInDHouse, Cornelboy, and their beloved Organization never ends.

Well, what do we have here?

After studying the IRS form 990 Income Tax Records for the Fiscal Year 2013 for the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society's Investments handled by the H.M Riley Trust, here are some investments that stood out:

1. The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society own 20,000 shares in BOEING CO

Boeing doesn't only make airplanes, they make MISSILES and are the THIRD LARGEST DEFENSE CONTRACTORS in the world as of 2020.

Check out their Wikipedia page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing

For proof see image #2 below

2. The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society own 30,000 shares in LOCKHEED MARTIN CORP

Lockheed Martin Corporation is an American aerospace, arms, defense, information security, and technology corporation with worldwide interests.

As of 2014, they were the WORLDS LARGEST DEFENSE CONTRACTORS

Check out their Wikipedia page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin

For proof see image #3 below

3. The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society own 90,000 shares in UNITED TECHNOLOGIES CORP

United Technologies merged with RAYTHEON technologies in 2020 - if you recall, we saw that Watchtower as of 2009, was already investing in Raytheon Technologies.

According to their Wikipedia page, United Technologies was a major military contractor and made 10% of its revenue from the U.S Government.

Check out their Wikipedia page -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Technologies

For proof see image #4 below

You can download and view Watchtower's entire investment portfolio for the 2013 fiscal year here -- https://pdfcoffee.com/watchtower-stock-investments-pdf-free.html

So let's get this straight.

An organization that claims to be "God's direct channel of communication" is investing heavily in companies that produce weapons of mass destruction.

They claim to have "erased wars from the mind of their followers.." but their investment portfolio tells a completely different story.

What do we call that?

HYPOCRISY!

HYPOCRISY!!

HYPOCRISY!!!

achorladey:

I am waiting for their original fake or forged original document.
You would have allowed them remain the way they are by not providing any links.
Sometimes I will post screenshots of their magazine without stating the month or year of publication. Let them go and look for it. Since whatever those they call APOSTATES post are lies, misinformation and image tarnishing

achorladey:



I am waiting for their original fake or forged original document.

You would have allowed them remain the way they are by not providing any links.

Sometimes I will post screenshots of their magazine without stating the month or year of publication. Let them go and look for it. Since whatever those they call APOSTATES post are lies, misinformation and image tarnishing.

MaxInDHouse:


So no matter the document or evidence you raise against the truth what a real believer will always ask you is "where else do you think i can go for pure worship?"
Failure to answer means Kò sọ́rọ̀ mọ́!

Keep crying, it's your portion!

We are humans not robots, and as humans we invest to GAIN (not LOOSE)

So if you BELIEVE that any investor could put his/her life-savings in a business and at the same time send out publishers in millions to discourage people from patronizing his own product

then what stops you from BELIEVING in Jesus of Nazareth?

MaxInDHouse:


A real believer will never ever check anything you say or present unless you're able to present a better option than the one you're trying to condemn! John 6:66-68

So no matter the document or evidence you raise against the truth what a real believer will always ask you is "where else do you think i can go for pure worship?"
Failure to answer means Kò sọ́rọ̀ mọ́!

A real believer will never ever check anything you say or present unless you're able to present a better option than the one you're trying to condemn!

against the truth what a real believer will always ask you is "where else do you think i can go for pure worship?"

Failure to answer means [b]Kò sọ́rọ̀ mọ́!

achorladey:





1. but test everything that is said. Hold on to what is good.

Who is Paul talking to here? Fake believers?

2. You are a real believer in the religious organization you belong. Abeg, wetin the image below say make you do? Why are you still checking or testing when you already know you are in the best?


3. Oya change mouth and spill irrelevant narratives



Discussion was not about where else to go for pure worship.




He is now stating irrelevant conditions to get out of the guagmire he got into. Save your face.

RussellRutherfo:



MaxInDHouse singing tune is now changing as more facts hit him.

Oteneaaron own self weak am.

MaxInDHouse is now admitting that he is aware of the lies of the organization but he himself is a liar and love the lies.
The same with Janosky.

RussellRutherfo:


MaxInDHouse singing tune is now changing as more facts hit him.
Oteneaaron own self weak am.
MaxInDHouse is now admitting that he is aware of the lies of the organization but he himself is a liar and love the lies.
The same with Janosky.

MaxInDHouse:


Funny atheists!

Do you think i have the time going through all the shit Apostates are putting up here and there against the truth?
In fact i've read lots and lots and lots of books with research materials that's enough to make one debunk the belief in God or Jesus.
But Intelligence will never allow any right thinking person forgo consistency.

This is what consistency means!

Mankind found ourselves here on this planet without anyone to tell us where we come from. Many Spirit Beings claiming God are being worshiped in different parts of the earth. Only one out of all took the initiative to inspire men from one race telling them all that happened right from the beginning until now.
He told us how mankind fell from glory and His plans to restore sanity on the planet.
He promised to send one person who will organize people and train them how to cohabit peacefully. This man came and started a movement that lasted for less than two centuries until the movement was wiped out by political element but the records of their deeds was well preserved until centuries later when people began searching for God with all their hearts. Then one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers emerged in the process preparing for the restoration of sanity on planet earth. Throughout the world everyone know this group for their obedience and humility as they're submissive to those taking the lead among them without the use of force or weapons but the words found written in the book reportedly inspired by one of the Gods.
So if anyone has anything to say against that group it should first be to present a better performing group that's under the control of that same God or another God then their achievements throughout the world.
In the absence of that, Kò sọ́rọ̀ mọ́!

RussellRutherfo:


Funny publishers.
Delude yourself all you want.

People are waking up.
You represent the old order of secrecy and lies.

Nothing you can do can stop young Jehovah witnesses like your children from asking in the future as they stumble across these informations no matter how the cult organization tries to cover it all.

Max's child to MaxInDHouse:
Dad, why all these recorded lies by the Watchtower Society?!!
I go out there and people are now asking why the lies in 1975, 1925, etcetera

MaxInDHouse to his child:
It is the evil apostates like RussellRutherfo, achorladey, etcetera that made our founders like Russell, Judge Rutherford, etcetera tell so much lies and give so much false prophecies. I myself is ashamed of our history but the promise of Bethel made me lie more to defend these jw lies.

RussellRutherfo:


Funny publishers.
Delude yourself all you want.

People are waking up.
You represent the old order of secrecy and lies.

Nothing you can do can stop young Jehovah witnesses like your children from asking in the future as they stumble across these informations no matter how the cult organization tries to cover it all.

Max's child to MaxInDHouse:
Dad, why all these recorded lies by the Watchtower Society?!!
I go out there and people are now asking why the lies in 1975, 1925, etcetera

MaxInDHouse to his child:
It is the evil apostates like RussellRutherfo, achorladey, etcetera that made our founders like Russell, Judge Rutherford, etcetera tell so much lies and give so much false prophecies. I myself is ashamed of our history but the promise of Bethel made me lie more to defend these jw lies.

MaxInDHouse:


Funny atheists!

Do you think i have the time going through all the shit Apostates are putting up here and there against the truth?
In fact i've read lots and lots and lots of books with research materials that's enough to make one debunk the belief in God or Jesus.
But Intelligence will never allow any right thinking person forgo consistency.

This is what consistency means!

Mankind found ourselves here on this planet without anyone to tell us where we come from. Many Spirit Beings claiming God are being worshiped in different parts of the earth. Only one out of all took the initiative to inspire men from one race telling them all that happened right from the beginning until now.
He told us how mankind fell from glory and His plans to restore sanity on the planet.
He promised to send one person who will organize people and train them how to cohabit peacefully. This man came and started a movement that lasted for less than two centuries until the movement was wiped out by political element but the records of their deeds was well preserved until centuries later when people began searching for God with all their hearts. Then one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers emerged in the process preparing for the restoration of sanity on planet earth. Throughout the world everyone know this group for their obedience and humility as they're submissive to those taking the lead among them without the use of force or weapons but the words found written in the book reportedly inspired by one of the Gods.
So if anyone has anything to say against that group it should first be to present a better performing group that's under the control of that same God or another God then their achievements throughout the world.
In the absence of that, Kò sọ́rọ̀ mọ́!

Do you think i have the time going through all the shit Apostates are putting up here and there against the truth?

In fact i've read lots and lots and lots of books with research materials that's enough to make one debunk the belief in God or Jesus.

But Intelligence will never allow any right thinking person forgo consistency