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Re: Pope Francis Says NATO Started The War In Ukraine By "Barking At Putin's Door" by Idaytesj29(m): 7:46am On May 04, 2022
WriterNig:


Since the beginning of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, Pope Francis has floated the idea that he wants to take a trip to Kyiv to try to broker a ceasefire. But now he says he would prefer to go to Moscow to try to talk some sense into Vladimir Putin, who he has not outwardly condemned in the now nearly three-month-old war and only did so lightly in a lengthy interview with an Italian newspaper.

“I feel that before going to Kyiv, I must go to Moscow,” he told Corriere Della Sera in an interview that ran Tuesday. But the meeting would not exactly be to condemn Putin, based on what he told the paper. He said that the real “scandal” of Putin’s war is “NATO barking at Russia’s door,” which he said caused the Kremlin to “react badly and unleash the conflict.”

Never mind that the 85-year-old pontiff is unable to walk after tearing a ligament in his knee (for which he says he will soon have surgery), or that Putin won’t even answer his calls. Francis repeated comments he has made in general audiences and in other interviews that the war is nothing more than a giant opportunity for a “trade in arms” and that it is still ongoing because of the constant shuttling of weapons to Ukraine. He has spoken twice by phone to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, but mostly to urge him not to fight back. He also went to the Russian embassy to the Holy See days after the invasion began to “register his concerns” about what was happening.



“I don’t know how to answer - I’m too far a way - the question of whether it is right to supply the Ukrainians,” he told the paper. “The clear thing is that weapons are being tested there. The Russians now know that tanks are of little use and are thinking of other things. This is why wars are waged: to test the weapons we have produced. Few people are fighting this trade, but more should be done.”

Whether the Italian journalists didn’t ask or whether he didn’t answer there was no mention about what would happen if Ukrainians were not fiercely fighting back, whether it would mean a full annexation of the entire country, millions of deaths, or empowering an already insatiably power-hungry Putin.

Francis veered toward conspiracy theory as he blamed the international community for instigating the war.

“You cannot think that a free state can make war on another free state,” he said. “In Ukraine, it seems that it was others who created the conflict. I am pessimistic but we must do everything possible to stop the war.”

The pope then said that in a state visit to Rome by Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban, he was told “the Russians have a plan, that everything will end on May 9” without giving any further explanation. May 9 is the day Russia celebrates its liberation and the end of World War II.





Finally, someone is bold enough to tell the truth without fear of NATO or US. This is the truth. You can't beat a child and expect her not to cry.

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Re: Pope Francis Says NATO Started The War In Ukraine By "Barking At Putin's Door" by Pharmboy24: 7:47am On May 04, 2022
Quelme:
This senile old fool is back into reality.
20x better than all the old fools in your household,community and village including a plonker like you.

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Re: Pope Francis Says NATO Started The War In Ukraine By "Barking At Putin's Door" by Sapalo: 7:48am On May 04, 2022
War Is All About Who Is Left And Not Who is Right, i Must Say That Pope Is Right About Nato . but we need peace to reign BECAUSE WHO DON GO DON GO.

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Re: Pope Francis Says NATO Started The War In Ukraine By "Barking At Putin's Door" by Johel(m): 7:49am On May 04, 2022
Whazar:
I love war like mad


Same grin grin
Re: Pope Francis Says NATO Started The War In Ukraine By "Barking At Putin's Door" by omoyankee3(m): 7:49am On May 04, 2022
It's all about $$$$$.
Re: Pope Francis Says NATO Started The War In Ukraine By "Barking At Putin's Door" by Blessed4sure: 7:50am On May 04, 2022
Where did you get that?

Neither of them is Catholic Majority.

They're both Orthodox Majority, and the Orthodox church isn't same as Catholic.

Mooh247:


Both Ukraine and Russia are Catholic majority

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Re: Pope Francis Says NATO Started The War In Ukraine By "Barking At Putin's Door" by IDIOTmoderators: 7:51am On May 04, 2022
Whazar:
I love war like mad
This one na embryo.
Re: Pope Francis Says NATO Started The War In Ukraine By "Barking At Putin's Door" by Mooh247: 7:52am On May 04, 2022
Blessed4sure:

Where did you get that?

Neither of them is Catholic Majority.

They're both Orthodox Majority, and the Orthodox church isn't same as Catholic.


Really
Re: Pope Francis Says NATO Started The War In Ukraine By "Barking At Putin's Door" by Benny6944: 7:56am On May 04, 2022
Rugaria:
I'm happy that The Pope understands the unending wickedness and pugnacious nature of NATO.
NATO is useless to modern world other than to provoke conflicts to loot other nations resources and to funnel funds into the "military industrial complex"

Putin was right to respond as he rightly did, but now that lives are being lost and Ukraine being totally ruined, anything that can be done to save lives is welcomed. Part of that should entail the global criminalization of NATO and the designation of the association as that of vandals and bloodsuckers..





Your a FO0L... An emphatic one.

Who's the criminals here? countries joining NATO to buttress their security or Putin Raping, looting, bombing hospitals, Doing their best to take land with best resources in other countries and causing mayhem in Ukr, which they also they did in Syria?


is Ukraine the only the country that share border with Russia? Latvia, Norway, Poland, Estonia etc do why didn't they attack them? oh because they saw an independent country they can easily oppress and intimidate because of their greed and wickedness


You all were deceived with lame excuses on what started the war but it wasn't about NATO but the Rapi$t Russians greed for wealth did. Russia is the most corrupt nation in the world, you can't hear or see it because everything is done secretly.

If your that sensible, why don't you help solve abject penury, insecurity, and terrorism ravishing your stinking nation?

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Re: Pope Francis Says NATO Started The War In Ukraine By "Barking At Putin's Door" by 1stGenAmerican(f): 7:57am On May 04, 2022
seguno2:


Is it in your world alone that right is synonymous with badly? Or why are you twisting the Pope’s words? Do you want the wrath of God to descend on you ni

I’m surprised at how many people don’t know the meaning of “react badly and unleash the conflict”.

Good to know that I’m not the only one reading these posts and realizing that only a few bothered to read the article and even fewer were able to comprehend what they read. They twisted the Pope’s word to fit their narrative without stopping to think that if the Pope was really siding with Russia, Putin wouldn’t be ducking his calls.

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Re: Pope Francis Says NATO Started The War In Ukraine By "Barking At Putin's Door" by Morphinne: 7:58am On May 04, 2022
Idaytesj29:


Finally, someone is bold enough to tell the truth without fear of NATO or US. This is the truth. You can't beat a child and expect her not to cry.

Bless you
The world needs more bold Elders like this. This is what we’ve been saying all this while but you never can underestimate the power of fools, especially when they are in large groups. These foolish nairaland resident western slaves have been trying hard to change the narrative. Trying really hard to have us believe that the supposed Villains are the saints here and vice versa. Russia is not the Middle East or North Africa. The country they are messing with is also a superpower

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Re: Pope Francis Says NATO Started The War In Ukraine By "Barking At Putin's Door" by Betscoreodds: 7:59am On May 04, 2022
puremaker7:
i like the javelin, but I like the hypersonic missile more....
long live hypersonic weapons

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Re: Pope Francis Says NATO Started The War In Ukraine By "Barking At Putin's Door" by Benny6944: 7:59am On May 04, 2022
Dalil8:


Most of the self propelled artillery, fighter jets, rifles, air defense systems, bombs, armored tanks and missiles of both Russia and U.S are from the 80's and 90's.

They just keep upgrading them.




noise maker.. us and other nation only sent what was recovered in the WWII which Ukr knows only how to use
Re: Pope Francis Says NATO Started The War In Ukraine By "Barking At Putin's Door" by Benny6944: 8:02am On May 04, 2022
perez100:
The US "Javelin" had made nonsense of armoured tanks. The tanks are easily blown into pieces like balloons. The Javelin comes with 2 war heads and gives you the opportunity to fire and change position and this makes it so difficult for enemies to track where the attack comes from. Whenever Javelin is involved, the tanks that position in one place are sure for destructions and trying to tactically maneuver, still no escape because whichever way, Javelin the king of destruction will track you. Anytime Javelin is in action, it can't return without delivering its message successfully. What made Russian Commander exclaimed, "tanks are now useless and appears like toys.".

Javelin, a symbol of Ukraine"s resistance.

Don't joke with Javelin.


Knuckle

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Re: Pope Francis Says NATO Started The War In Ukraine By "Barking At Putin's Door" by Blackman101: 8:02am On May 04, 2022
Finally someone is man enough to say the truth

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Re: Pope Francis Says NATO Started The War In Ukraine By "Barking At Putin's Door" by ShaqFu: 8:02am On May 04, 2022
Very nice of you Papa. I'm sure if we have more people like you who can tell the United. States and it's allies, the truth, we won't be faced with much conflict as we have seen for the last 10 to 15 years.

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Re: Pope Francis Says NATO Started The War In Ukraine By "Barking At Putin's Door" by Benny6944: 8:04am On May 04, 2022
paramakina202:
NATO instigated this war I concur with Pope.



Ask your stupd self if what Russians are doing in Ukr is part of their mission there? raping, looting and killing of civilians?
Re: Pope Francis Says NATO Started The War In Ukraine By "Barking At Putin's Door" by Betscoreodds: 8:11am On May 04, 2022
Morphinne:


He said that the real “scandal” of Putin’s war is “NATO barking at Russia’s door,” which he said caused the Kremlin to “react badly and unleash the conflict.”
When someone with a functional brain speaks you will surely know from a million miles away.
Here is someone with a functional brain and an unbiased mind~ a freethinker. The Pope just spoke nothing but the truth while some nairaland subhumans want to have us think otherwise and believe that anyone who goes contrary to their wack thinking is definitely a Muslim terrorist or probably denied visa to the West. The root cause of this conflict is very clear but only intelligent people can see. You don’t invite my ark enemies to surround my gate asking me to keep my cool citing that you have fundamental rights to peaceful assembly and association.
exactly.

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Re: Pope Francis Says NATO Started The War In Ukraine By "Barking At Putin's Door" by loswhite(m): 8:12am On May 04, 2022
Rugaria:
I'm happy that The Pope understands the unending wickedness and pugnacious nature of NATO.
NATO is useless to modern world other than to provoke conflicts to loot other nations resources and to funnel funds into the "military industrial complex"

Putin was right to respond as he rightly did, but now that lives are being lost and Ukraine being totally ruined, anything that can be done to save lives is welcomed. Part of that should entail the global criminalization of NATO and the designation of the association as that of vandals and bloodsuckers..
NATO is responsible for world War 1 and 2. Foolish ppl.

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Re: Pope Francis Says NATO Started The War In Ukraine By "Barking At Putin's Door" by 1stGenAmerican(f): 8:13am On May 04, 2022
Benny6944:


Your a FO0L... An emphatic one.

If your that sensible, why don't you help solve abject penury, insecurity, and terrorism ravishing your stinking nation?

I agree with your sentiment. To answer your question, he can’t help to solve any of the crises afflicting his nation because he is showing supports for the same kind of corrupt tyrants wreaking havoc across his nation. One would think that people being terrorized by corruption and anarchy in Nigeria would be empathetic to the people uprooted from their homes in Ukraine for the same reasons but they aren’t. Only a select few are able to discern what’s really going on and those few along with others like them are Nigeria’s only hope for improvement. As for the rest?
People who support anarchy and terrorism deserve leaders that foster anarchy, terrorism, and corruption. Not all but some of these Nigerians deserve the bad leaders that they complain about.
Re: Pope Francis Says NATO Started The War In Ukraine By "Barking At Putin's Door" by Kirkman: 8:14am On May 04, 2022
2elliot:
"When they say peace and safety, then sudden destruction shall fall on them". The "Health and 'Safety'" slogan has passed. Now we are on "Peace" slogan. Soon after this, sudden destruction of the earth, for the end of time is upon us.
*Peace and security*. You sabi wats up. I was waiting for someone to post this..
Re: Pope Francis Says NATO Started The War In Ukraine By "Barking At Putin's Door" by Amayabor1: 8:15am On May 04, 2022
Francis repeated comments he has made in general audiences and in other interviews that the war is nothing more than a giant opportunity for a “trade in arms”

What is the pope saying? Trade in which arms? The US and other western nations are giving Ukraine free weapons, he is talking about "trade in arms". If it was really trade, the US will not be giving Ukraine military aids.

He also talked about the war being used to test new weapons. Pope, please, who told you that the weapons being sent to Ukraine has not been tested before in war situations?

You ignored the fact that Russia invaded Ukraine. Now, you are bringing out conspiracy theories while the war started because the west is sending weapons to Ukraine to defend itself. You were expecting Ukraine to surrender while Russia run over their country right? Sorry to disappoint you!

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Re: Pope Francis Says NATO Started The War In Ukraine By "Barking At Putin's Door" by Rugaria: 8:16am On May 04, 2022
Benny6944:






Your a FO0L... An emphatic one.

Who's the criminals here? countries joining NATO to buttress their security or Putin Raping, looting, bombing hospitals, Doing their best to take land with best resources in other countries and causing mayhem in Ukr, which they also they did in Syria?


is Ukraine the only the country that share border with Russia? Latvia, Norway, Poland, Estonia etc do why didn't they attack them? oh because they saw an independent country they can easily oppress and intimidate because of their greed and wicked..


You all were deceived with lame excuses on what started the war but it wasn't about NATO but the Rapi$t Russians greed for wealth did. Russia is the most corrupt nation in the world, you can't hear or see it because everything is done secretly.

If your that sensible, why don't you help solve abject penury, insecurity, and terrorism ravishing your stinking nation?

You can't be so ignorant and noisy at the same time... It won't help you one bit..
NATO was formed to fight the communists in the former Soviet Union after the last World war. There's nothing like The Soviet Union again. The Soviet Union has collapsed! It collapsed politically, militarily and economically. Even Ukraine was an integral part of the former Soviet Union being fought against by the West during the Cold war days! So what are you yapping about

At the collapse of the Soviet Union, The Warsaw pact, which was an equivalent security association of countries under the sphere of the former Soviet Union collapsed too! The agreement and union was destroyed! And the individual nations started chatting their own individual security and political goals based on their respective interests. Russia never challenged this per se, only reaching different agreements to avoid NATO expansions to her doorsteps!!!

Those agreements, both with the west and with Ukraine are there for all to see. Russia which was the biggest nation from The USSR never tried to set up military posts around The USA or even other fledging European powers like The French and The British. And it's because of this her laid back approach that led some former Soviet entities to open their doors to NATO brigandage as members. It's this expansion that's totally responsible for the war we have today.

The question you need to ask your dumb self is this:
If the Soviet Union has collapsed, if the Warsaw pact has been annulled, if the Russian president like Boris Yeltsin can go as far as inviting American politicians and economists into Russia to take strategic positions in acts of national goodwill immediately after the collapse of the Soviet Union, why did the Americans and the West insist on energizing the NATO alliance against an enemy that is more or else dead!?!? Answer that question and cure yourself of your debilitating ignorance..

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Re: Pope Francis Says NATO Started The War In Ukraine By "Barking At Putin's Door" by VULCAN(m): 8:16am On May 04, 2022
I'm not even a Catholic yet I know your post is a foolish one.

I guess your age at around 21.

The Pope has hundreds of millions of followers around the world but you compare him to someone like the unknown girl that wanted to trend so she did the video claiming she was the one who slept with a dog.

You are definitely not a smart one
NwaNimo1:
Why is pope desperate to trend?

[img]https:///media/3-30-2022/GDyBpU.gif[/img]

The matter no concern the vatican.......dem wan loot from the dead bodies again?

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Re: Pope Francis Says NATO Started The War In Ukraine By "Barking At Putin's Door" by Mjpem23(m): 8:17am On May 04, 2022
Merisbankie:

don't joke with Putin strikes can bomb a javelin to pieces
You and the person you quoted are being brainwashed by this Ukraine and Russia conflict. Read what Pope said very well, just like these people want to be using global political conflict to control our minds.
Re: Pope Francis Says NATO Started The War In Ukraine By "Barking At Putin's Door" by Elmemeoflagos(m): 8:18am On May 04, 2022
NwaNimo1:
Why is pope desperate to trend?

[img]https:///media/3-30-2022/GDyBpU.gif[/img]

The matter no concern the vatican.......dem wan loot from the dead bodies again?
Gee .. you went too far with your joke on this post...

E no make at all

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Re: Pope Francis Says NATO Started The War In Ukraine By "Barking At Putin's Door" by Elmemeoflagos(m): 8:19am On May 04, 2022
NwaNimo1:
Why is pope desperate to trend?

[img]https:///media/3-30-2022/GDyBpU.gif[/img]

The matter no concern the vatican.......dem wan loot from the dead bodies again?
Gee .. you went too far with your joke on this post...

E no make at all

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Re: Pope Francis Says NATO Started The War In Ukraine By "Barking At Putin's Door" by Betscoreodds: 8:21am On May 04, 2022
Amayabor1:
Francis repeated comments he has made in general audiences and in other interviews that the war is nothing more than a giant opportunity for a “trade in arms”

What is the pope saying? Trade in which arms? The US and other western nations are giving Ukraine free weapons, he is talking about "trade in arms". If it was really trade, the US will not be giving Ukraine military aids.

He also talked about the war being used to test new weapons. Pope, please, who told you that the weapons being sent to Ukraine has not been tested before in war situations?

You ignored the fact that Russia invaded Ukraine. Now, you are bringing out conspiracy theories while the war started because the west is sending weapons to Ukraine to defend itself. You were expecting Ukraine to surrender while Russia run over their country right? Sorry to disappoint you!

USA don't give you anything for free the arms is loan to be repaid.

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Re: Pope Francis Says NATO Started The War In Ukraine By "Barking At Putin's Door" by Idaytesj29(m): 8:21am On May 04, 2022
Morphinne:


Bless you
The world needs more bold Elders like this. This is what we’ve been saying all this while but you never can underestimate the power of fools, especially when they are in large groups. These foolish nairaland resident western slaves have been trying hard to change the narrative. Trying really hard to have us believe that the supposed Villains are the saints here and vice versa. Russia is not the Middle East or North Africa. The country they are messing with is also a superpower

Bless you too. You are so correct. We are watching. We will see how it all goes down.

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Re: Pope Francis Says NATO Started The War In Ukraine By "Barking At Putin's Door" by Benny6944: 8:21am On May 04, 2022
Rugaria:


You can't be so ignorant and noisy at the same time... It won't help you one bit..
NATO was formed to fight the communists in the former Soviet Union after the last World war. There's nothing like The Soviet Union again. The Soviet Union has collapsed! It collapsed politically, militarily and economically. Even Ukraine was an integral part of the former Soviet Union being fought against by the West during the Cold war days! So what are you yapping about

At the collapse of the Soviet Union, The Warsaw pact, which was an equivalent security association of countries under the sphere of the former Soviet Union collapsed too! The agreement and union was destroyed! And the individual nations started chatting their own individual security and political goals based on their respective interests. Russia never challenged this per se, only reaching different agreements to avoid NATO expansions to her doorsteps!!!

Those agreements, both with the west and with Ukraine are there for all to see. Russia which was the biggest nation from The USSR never tried to set up military posts around The USA or even other fledging European powers like The French and The British. And it's because of this her laid back approach that led some former Soviet entities to open their doors to NATO brigandage as members. It's this expansion that's totally responsible for the war we have today.

The question you need to ask your dumb self is this:
If the Soviet Union has collapsed, if the Warsaw pact has been annulled, if the Russian president like Boris Yeltsin can go as far as inviting American politicians and economists into Russia to take strategic positions in acts of national goodwill immediately after the collapse of the Soviet Union, why did the Americans and the West insist on energizing the NATO alliance against an enemy that is more or else dead!?!? Answer that question and cure yourself of your debilitating ignorance..



Your a blatant fo0l and ignoramus.

When Ukr made it clear they won't join NATO, what made Russia not to retreat if it was NATO gags made them invade Ukr. So shot your mouth because you know nothing about this war.. call me bastad if I respond to your senseless argument again

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Re: Pope Francis Says NATO Started The War In Ukraine By "Barking At Putin's Door" by 1stGenAmerican(f): 8:22am On May 04, 2022
loswhite:
NATO is responsible for world War 1 and 2. Foolish ppl.


How was NATO responsible for World War 1 when the organization wasn’t formed until 41 years after WWI ended?

Are you saying that the leaders of the NATO countries got into a time machine, travel back in time, and assassinated Archduke Franz Ferdinand? It’s obvious that you know little to nothing about WWI.
It’s so ironic that you called others foolish.
Re: Pope Francis Says NATO Started The War In Ukraine By "Barking At Putin's Door" by Invitationn: 8:23am On May 04, 2022
9gerian:
Who else noticed that the only time the pope was alleged to be a conspiracy theorist was when he alluded to what every informed person knows about the deliberate poking of Russia by NATO, which led to this crisis? This is because there is a script, and anything outside of that script is regarded as conspiracy theories and censored from the news.

This is how people are brainwashed and programmed to think and react in a particular way using the media who work in sync with specially scripted narratives for people to soak up without an opportunity for an opinion of their own. Watch all the mainstream media and you would see the pattern for what it is.


They've purged almost all alternative news sources from the information space, especially news from Russia and Chinese origins, leaving their people to solely consume what they want them to consume.

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