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Re: Honor Killing, Jungle Justice...not ISLAMIC! by legionISproteus: 10:23pm On May 13, 2022 |
bot101:It is in their training to deflect the discussion from the matter at hand, but I am ready for him. Let the self-acclaimed data analyst carry out a simple exercise to verify what everyone has said against this murder... that one is still dodging. I pity all black muslims because even the religion regards them as slaves by mere colour of their skin. The mental slavery is so powerful it binds them for generations. Imagine a young nigerian student killling his fellow student because of an arab paedophile called mohammed that died many years ago. If you are a muslim (especially from Nigeria) that feels offended by my second paragraph, something is definitely wrong with you in the head. |
Re: Honor Killing, Jungle Justice...not ISLAMIC! by Saxxon(m): 10:28pm On May 13, 2022 |
fkj950ax: Please leave Adeyinka90. He was taught the yoruba version of Islam which is thoroughly watered down. It is because of this their watered down teachings that fulanis do not rate them. That's why fulanis will never attend a mosque chaired by a Yoruba Imam. To them, the Yorubas are infidels. So leave him, he doesn't even know that he's an infidel to the people he's defending. |
Re: Honor Killing, Jungle Justice...not ISLAMIC! by abbey621(m): 10:29pm On May 13, 2022 |
legionISproteus: I live abroad and my work takes me to Saudi, Indonesia, Malaysia and India quite often, if you can't prove the 1 billion muslims supporting terrorism then I suggest you keep shut and stop embarrassing yourself. It is only in Northern Nigeria that you constantly hear about these senseless killings. So your problem is not Islam, it is the fact that your government does not give a damn about your life, it is the fact that your government allows religious law to supercede the Nigerian Constitution. So once again, I am not going to defend Islam, there is no need, it can defend itself. Tell your governemnt to protect you, tell your government to find the perps and demand justice. When last did you hear Muslims in the South killing Christians? Abi there are no Muslims in the South? This once again proves the stupidity of your argument. I can't be responsible for the actions of every Muslim, just like I don't expect you to be responsible for every actions of your family members.....Don't come at me with such tomfoolery! |
Re: Honor Killing, Jungle Justice...not ISLAMIC! by legionISproteus: 10:30pm On May 13, 2022 |
Saxxon:and the fulani, hausa and other black muslims are seen as subhumans to the arabians that founded the religion! This food chain get as e be. 1 Like |
Re: Honor Killing, Jungle Justice...not ISLAMIC! by Saxxon(m): 10:38pm On May 13, 2022 |
Haakeem: Your prophet Mohammad never condemned it. Mohammad in his early days preached peace. This was at a time when he was still trying to convince people of his priesthood. When every effort failed, he gathered an army with the money he inherited from the rich women he married, returned to Mecca, and destroyed polytheism using brute force. That was when his teachings became crude and hostile. Even when one of his followers confronted him saying that he's contradicting himself with his new teaching, he introduced something called "LAW OF ABROGATION". That law makes it clear that his new teachings render the old ones null and void. Meaning that all those peaceful teachings you guys usually cite, those teachings which made at the beginning of his life, are all void. Can you remember how he adored the jews at the beginning? How did that end?? Now, tell me, which one do muslims today act upon? You obviously don't know NOTHING about your religion. |
Re: Honor Killing, Jungle Justice...not ISLAMIC! by legionISproteus: 10:39pm On May 13, 2022 |
abbey621:The proof is in this thread but you have blatantly refused to put your self-acclaimed data analyst skills to good use. I don't give a damn if you worked in the moon or Venus, I can tell when someone is defending a sinister act when I see one. Tell me now, if you decide to stop worshipping mohammed today, can you go to your muslim friends and announce your decision? I do not blame you because you did not choose to be born into a muslim home. I always feel pity for black muslims when they mindlessly murder themselves because of some islamic teaching and another group (like the one you belong to ) comes up to defend the act. This is generational subjugation in perfection. I can bet you force your children to read the hadith and whatever religious text you were forced to read while growing up. This is why the problem never ends. You are made to perpetuate this barbaric acts in your family and tribe and it seen as a noble act in the eyes of the arabian man's god whom you worship. |
Re: Honor Killing, Jungle Justice...not ISLAMIC! by abbey621(m): 10:43pm On May 13, 2022 |
legionISproteus: Like I said previously, stop your tomfoolery, you don't deserve the dignity of an intellectual discussion.....FAREWELL! |
Re: Honor Killing, Jungle Justice...not ISLAMIC! by Saxxon(m): 10:48pm On May 13, 2022 |
abbey621: Bros, I suggest you keep shut if you can't use the brain that God gave you. "Civilized muslims" is how the Arabs would love to describe themselves and they do a pretty darn good job at it. Have you forgotten that in this same UAE, women aren't allowed to vote, own/drive cars, or even walk around alone without supervision? The Arabs live by very strict sharia law. The only difference is that they make it look legitimate by institutionalizing those laws in their courts. An offender is taken to court where if proven to be a blasphemer or apostate, said offender will be sentenced to death. What then is the difference? Is it the fact that Deborah wasn't first sentenced to court before being killed? Isn't she still going to be killed of tried in an Islamic court? Dubai man, I'm waiting for your answer. |
Re: Honor Killing, Jungle Justice...not ISLAMIC! by legionISproteus: 10:50pm On May 13, 2022 |
abbey621:Why should I be discussing with someone who supports the murder of another human being that was killed in the name of another man's god? What ounce of intellect will come out from such discourse? You are incapable of having an intellectual discussion |
Re: Honor Killing, Jungle Justice...not ISLAMIC! by Saxxon(m): 10:51pm On May 13, 2022 |
legionISproteus: Dem no born am well, if he dares denounce Islam they will slit his throat. |
Re: Honor Killing, Jungle Justice...not ISLAMIC! by legionISproteus: 11:07pm On May 13, 2022 |
Saxxon:yet abbey621 is defending the religion that supports such carnage. He is only a muslim because he is afraid for his life. |
Re: Honor Killing, Jungle Justice...not ISLAMIC! by abbey621(m): 11:07pm On May 13, 2022 |
Saxxon: I think your brain is faulty, are we discussing social rights here or the value of human life? Do you think if Deborah was sent to court and the court sentenced her to death after evidences were presented, do you there would be as much outrage? Sharia law exists in the North, your Nigerian government allowed it hence it was the proper course of action not the needless senseless jungle justice. If you have a problem with how Northerners have chosen to be ruled, speak to your government about it. Whether it is Islam, whether it is someone that stole something or kidnapped a child, I am against jungle justice. I am against people getting judged without due process, the rest of your argument na for your own pocket! |
Re: Honor Killing, Jungle Justice...not ISLAMIC! by Antilslaam: 11:21pm On May 13, 2022 |
Aboki99: He's not a father to you (Muslims) but rather a slaves master Case close |
Re: Honor Killing, Jungle Justice...not ISLAMIC! by Aboki99(m): 11:25pm On May 13, 2022 |
Antilslaam: You are absolutely right. The prophet is our master. He is our authority. Our judge, our saviour. |
Re: Honor Killing, Jungle Justice...not ISLAMIC! by Topzee109: 11:31pm On May 13, 2022 |
advocatejare:To show that only God can create human |
Re: Honor Killing, Jungle Justice...not ISLAMIC! by Topzee109: 11:31pm On May 13, 2022 |
advocatejare: Seriously, I don't know where y'all get all these stories |
Re: Honor Killing, Jungle Justice...not ISLAMIC! by fkj950ax(m): 2:20am On May 14, 2022 |
Saxxon: There is no Yoruba version of Islam. You and/or they are all Muslims. This is not the time to divide and rule. And you are totally out of line calling him an infidel. You need to apologize to him. There is nothing wrong with any version of Islam. Iran and Saudi have different types. Indian and French Muslims have different forms. No Muslim should kill anybody whether it’s a Yoruba Muslim or a Hausa Muslim because of their belief. 1 Like |
Re: Honor Killing, Jungle Justice...not ISLAMIC! by littleguy444: 7:24am On May 14, 2022 |
AntiChristian:We Muslims are fast becoming the major blasphemers of other religions today, so many Muslims make unacceptable statement about other people's religion and the scholars are not doing much about it, everybody loves his/her religion so dearly as such respect must be mutual. 2 Likes |
Re: Honor Killing, Jungle Justice...not ISLAMIC! by advocatejare(m): 7:58am On May 14, 2022 |
Topzee109:I gave you the references, stop feigning ignorance! Do you want to claim that you don’t know what Sahih Bukhari means? Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah: Allah's Apostle said, "Who is willing to kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?" Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, "O Allah's Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?" The Prophet said, "Yes,”" Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab). "The Prophet said, "You may say it."[/b] Then Muhammad bin Maslama went to Kab and said, "That man (i.e. Muhammad demands Sadaqa (i.e. Zakat) from us, and he has troubled us, and I have come to borrow something from you." On that, Kab said, "By Allah, you will get tired of him!" Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Now as we have followed him, we do not want to leave him unless and until we see how his end is going to be. Now we want you to lend us a camel load or two of food." .... Then he requested Ka'b again, "Will you let me (smell your head)?" Ka'b said, "Yes." When Muhammad got a strong hold of him, he said (to his companions), "Get at him!" So they killed him and went to the Prophet and informed him. (Abu Rafi) was killed after Ka'b bin Al- Ashraf." -Sahih Bukhari 5:59:369 or Sahih Bukhari 4037 |
Re: Honor Killing, Jungle Justice...not ISLAMIC! by advocatejare(m): 8:01am On May 14, 2022 |
Topzee109:So anyone that raised the dead is God ? |
Re: Honor Killing, Jungle Justice...not ISLAMIC! by Antilslaam: 8:08am On May 14, 2022 |
Aboki99: Why did you removed the slaves part of it, are you not happy to be slave? Are you happy that allah is the manufacturer of slaves? Moreso, where did you read it in Quran that muhammad is your saviour as the authors of Quran affirms Jesus Christ as your Messiah? |
Re: Honor Killing, Jungle Justice...not ISLAMIC! by Topzee109: 9:07am On May 14, 2022 |
advocatejare:He wants to kill an enemy not innocent During those time fought wars where enemies attack them, so how's that a crime Even in your Bible many prophet killed and fought wars |
Re: Honor Killing, Jungle Justice...not ISLAMIC! by advocatejare(m): 9:57am On May 14, 2022 |
Topzee109:Stop lying, the man Ka’b didn’t fight Muhammad, he only used poem to insult him. So muhammad sent killer to him because of insults, which is the same thing those Muslims in sokoto did. They followed the footsteps of Muhammad! |
Re: Honor Killing, Jungle Justice...not ISLAMIC! by Topzee109: 12:54pm On May 14, 2022 |
advocatejare: No something already happened, either he is an enemy or he has previously waged war in them |
Re: Honor Killing, Jungle Justice...not ISLAMIC! by advocatejare(m): 1:11pm On May 14, 2022 |
Topzee109:Stop lying. He never waged any war against Muhammad, if he did then show us the evidence! |
Re: Honor Killing, Jungle Justice...not ISLAMIC! by RightChannel: 1:15pm On May 14, 2022 |
Topzee109: Is like you Muslims has a special school where they gather you and teach you how to lies and falsely defend the atrocities or crimes of muhammad 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Honor Killing, Jungle Justice...not ISLAMIC! by Topzee109: 1:17pm On May 14, 2022 |
RightChannel:Proove me wrong, else, this is bullshit |
Re: Honor Killing, Jungle Justice...not ISLAMIC! by RightChannel: 2:43pm On May 14, 2022 |
Topzee109: You mean Muhammad never killed anyone that insulted him? |
Re: Honor Killing, Jungle Justice...not ISLAMIC! by RightChannel: 2:54pm On May 14, 2022 |
Topzee109: Muhammad killed Abu Rafi' ibn Abi Al-Huqaiq for mocking him with his poetry and for helping the troops of the Confederates by providing them with money and supplies Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent a group of Ansari men to kill Abu-Rafi`. One of them set out and entered their (i.e. the enemies) fort. That man said, "I hid myself in a stable for their animals. They closed the fort gate. Later they lost a donkey of theirs, so they went out in its search. I, too, went out along with them, pretending to look for it. They found the donkey and entered their fort. And I, too, entered along with them. They closed the gate of the fort at night, and kept its keys in a small window where I could see them. When those people slept, I took the keys and opened the gate of the fort and came upon Abu Rafi` and said, 'O Abu Rafi`. When he replied me, I proceeded towards the voice and hit him. He shouted and I came out to come back, pretending to be a helper. I said, 'O Abu Rafi`, changing the tone of my voice. He asked me, 'What do you want; woe to your mother?' I asked him, 'What has happened to you?' He said, 'I don't know who came to me and hit me.' Then I drove my sword into his belly and pushed it forcibly till it touched the bone. Then I came out, filled with puzzlement and went towards a ladder of theirs in order to get down but I fell down and sprained my foot. I came to my companions and said, 'I will not leave till I hear the wailing of the women.' So, I did not leave till I heard the women bewailing Abu Rafi`, the merchant pf Hijaz. Then I got up, feeling no ailment, (and we proceeded) till we came upon the Prophet (ﷺ) and informed him." Collection Sahih Bukhari Dar-us-Salam reference Hadith 3022 In-book reference Book 56, Hadith 231 USC-MSA web (English) reference Volume 4, Book 52, Hadith 264 |
Re: Honor Killing, Jungle Justice...not ISLAMIC! by bot101(m): 2:58pm On May 14, 2022 |
abbey621: I don't have time for bullshit discussions. The simple fact that Sanusi was once CBN governor and Patanmi is a Minister today validates my argument. Did you see your chief imam's statement? That you are posturing and trying to divert from Deborah's murder also validates my assertion. The whole world knows your hypocrisy, has called it out, but you and your ilk defend it nevertheless! Try all you can, you are a murderer like those who killed Deborah's as long as you do not outrightly condemn her murder. She was defenceless and innocent, and you killed her for a dead Arab man, and think you are sane. |
Re: Honor Killing, Jungle Justice...not ISLAMIC! by 1nigeriamyfoot: 5:06pm On May 14, 2022 |
Topzee109: But no Muslim was killed! No branch of sterling Bank recieved just threat not to talk of burning it down No staff of sterling Bank was ever stoned Deborah never insulted Muhhamed SAW (Sex Award Winner) but only condemned act of posting religious thing on WhatsApp group meant for academic purposes Islamabad |
Re: Honor Killing, Jungle Justice...not ISLAMIC! by abbey621(m): 5:22pm On May 14, 2022 |
bot101: You're a bastaard, go back and read what I wrote and the numerous times I've condemned the people who did it. You want to pin it on Islam rather than your inept govenrment and the extremists views from the North. This is where we disagreed, stop spewing rubbish and GTFO! |
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