ISabiDisturb:


You need to stop these lies.

USA stopped every Oil purchase from Russia since April 15th. That was the deadline given to all US entities still patronizing Russian crude.

All purchases ended April 15th.

US has never at any time paid for Russian crude in Rubles.

I hear you

Igbofam:


Read the OP very well. All arrangements have already been made.

I am sure you are not more knowledgeable than those who put this deal together between USA and Bulgaria.

All the minute details logistically has been taken care of so stop worrying on their behalf.

They will get US LNG for cheaper than Russian Gas

Thanchu

Forget about the OP, there is no cheap gas from LNG, especially from Shale Oil LNG, this is simple propaganda, the US is subsidising the cost of LNG but for how long.

ericmani:

As long as that your news is from Lavrov then be rest assured that it's a lie.

You can read this link to be better informed. Russia and propaganda are 5 and 6.

If indeed they still have a lot of nations buying their crude why did they drop their oil prices heavily while begging countries to come and buy?

www.devdiscourse.com/article/headlines/2035362-factbox-who-is-buying-russian-crude-oil-and-who-has-stopped%3famp

Igbofam:


https://www.euractiv.com/section/energy-environment/news/bulgaria-to-replace-russian-gas-supply-with-cheaper-us-lng/

Only a stupid human being would think US LNG would be cheaper than gas through pipeline .

sulaak:


Forget about the OP, there is no cheap gas from LNG, especially from Shale Oil LNG, this is simple propaganda, the US is subsidising the cost of LNG but for how long.

If you followed the conversation by the OP you would have seen where he posted why the gas would be cheaper for Bulgaria and that is because they have a terminal they just linked to Greece.

Greece is barely 800km from Bulgaria while Russia is over 4000km from Bulgaria so do the math and tell me why Bulgaria would not be getting LNG supplied to them for cheaper?

This war in Russia is a blessing in disguise for my dear country! Mark my words the west will invest massively in alternative sources of energy which will in turn make crude oil obsolete the only thing keeping Nigeria together is crude oil.

Buckeyemedia1:
Colonialist Zombie, Fela said “Black Man Know Yourself”.

Look at this Nincompoop.

You must be very Stupid if you think you can reply my comment with insult and get away with it.

Only a foolish bastard like you will resort to insults when people are having sensible conversation.

You better carry your frustrated useless Life out of my mention before you die untimely.

Anything that has US can never be cheap. If it is cheap today. How long will it last before the real price set in

bakar007:


Only a stupid human being would think US LNG would be cheaper than gas through pipeline .

LNG to Bulgaria would dock in Greece which is 800km from Bulgaria.

Russian gas pipeline distance to Bulgaria covers a little over 4000km

In layman's terms explain to me how something coming from a little over 4000km away would be cheaper than something coming from 800km away.

I would like to learn your Statistics and economics

KillerCrocodile:
I love and would always support the United States.

But I must say here that Putin fell for their Trap.

The United States have been planning to divert the European countries from Russian gas to American gas for a long time without success.

But since Putin's invasion of Ukraine, their plan is seeing the light of day.

Nord Stream 2 is dead and buried. Even Nord Stream 1 is on life support and may die a natural death if Germany and other EU countries can source for gas supply from other places.

Putin never saw this coming....

He was banking on division in the reaction among NATO and Western countries in response to his invasion.

If Donald Trump was President, that would be possible but not with Joe Biden as President.

Joe Biden is known as a Unifier. He is known for bringing different parties with different opinion to the table and coming up with a compromise plan of action.

Putin underestimated the European Union

Putin underestimated the old man in the oval office.

Putin's Russia fell for the trap that America has set for the Russian economy for a long time.

We are likely heading for a prolonged battle in Ukraine and with news like this, then the Russian economy would be severely dehydrated....

Slava Ukraini....... Glory to the heroes.

quit ur delusion bro.American gas is very light nd nt suitable to Europe. Go do ur research.All dose flexing deir muscle,no one will tell dem bfor running back.Europe has no alternative to Russia cheap gas,infact d prime minister of Italy mario Draghi said European countries are already opening ruble account nd paying for gas in rubles.All of d Germany gas dealers already started paying in rubles.pls go nd do ur research.Bulgaria is banking on other European buyers,buying in surplus,den inturn sell to dem.D weather is still ok ova deir nw,wen winter sets in,evry1 sense go formalize.If USA gas is dat gud,European union will nt only ban Russia oil,bt also gas.

frog12:
don't you think europe also fell for america's trap. if europe know this, why they allow am
if you can answer that, you are a MASTER !

Kindly Explain...

I am here to learn too.

mainkendo:
Anything that has US can never be cheap. If it is cheap today. How long will it last before the real price set in

There is no real price. Bulgaria is now linked to Greece via an LNG terminal which is just 800km away.

Russian gas is over 4000km away

800km supply should be cheaper than a 4000km supply.

Right or wrong?

Svlla:


You're still the same idiot contradicting yourself by saying that they are shoring up gas from Azerbaijan.

Azerbaijan gas gets to Europe via turkey Trans Anatolia pipeline, does not tell you something?

Now Dunce take a seat and educate yourself;
1. Azerbaijan is not going to increase its gas export to Europe because it doesn't have the immediate capacity to do so even if it wants to. Take it or leave it, Europe is stuck with Russia gas (something that UAE can't do is want Azeri want to do with how many BCM of gas )

2. US gets most of its crude and energy related resources through hydraulic fracturing which is expensive. Now add to additional cost of transportation over thousands of nautical miles

There's no cheap gas for Europe anywhere else and Bulgaria is in deep shit

I will advice you look up the actual cost of gas from Russia and US for your self education.

You're just reacting to sensational headlines and your typical wearing your hearts on your sleeve kinda reaction. The reality on ground is too uncomfortable for you, must be the reason why you embarrassingly shy away from the truth.

quick question: why are you crying more than Bulgaria that wants to get gas from different other sources.

So in all of Bulgarian government agencies, there's no intelligent being that can analyze all you said above? or you're the only one that knows it.

They know it, they are cool with it. They have moved forward with it. Coming here to form analyst doesn't take away the fact that Bulgaria is getting gas supplies from other sources and they are okay with it

Demolakay:

quit ur delusion bro.American gas is very light nd nt suitable to Europe. Go do ur research.All dose flexing deir muscle,no one will tell dem bfor running back.Europe has no alternative to Russia cheap gas,infact d prime minister of Italy mario Draghi said European countries are already opening ruble account nd paying for gas in rubles.All of d Germany gas dealers already started paying in rubles.pls go nd do ur research.Bulgaria is banking on other European buyers,buying in surplus,den inturn sell to dem.D weather is still ok ova deir nw,wen winter sets in,evry1 sense go formalize.If USA gas is dat gud,European union will nt only ban Russia oil,bt also gas.

This your comment is all sorts of deluded that I do not even know where to begin from with it.

Natural gas from USA is perfect for any country because it is refined and not used right from the ground.

However due to distance from USA to Europe the most cost effective way to transport it is as LNG.

Bulgaria is not making any second hand purchases from other countries. On the contrary Bulgaria has connected directly to the LNG terminal in Greece which is about 800km away.

They buy directly.

And by the way No European country is opening accounts in Rubles....it's European Companies that are doing so. About 18 to 21 companies have done so and not countries.

I would like to believe that a company is not a country wouldn't you agree?

KillerCrocodile:
I love and would always support the United States.

But I must say here that Putin fell for their Trap.

The United States have been planning to divert the European countries from Russian gas to American gas for a long time without success.

But since Putin's invasion of Ukraine, their plan is seeing the light of day.

Nord Stream 2 is dead and buried. Even Nord Stream 1 is on life support and may die a natural death if Germany and other EU countries can source for gas supply from other places.

Putin never saw this coming....

He was banking on division in the reaction among NATO and Western countries in response to his invasion.

If Donald Trump was President, that would be possible but not with Joe Biden as President.

Joe Biden is known as a Unifier. He is known for bringing different parties with different opinion to the table and coming up with a compromise plan of action.

Putin underestimated the European Union

Putin underestimated the old man in the oval office.

Putin's Russia fell for the trap that America has set for the Russian economy for a long time.

We are likely heading for a prolonged battle in Ukraine and with news like this, then the Russian economy would be severely dehydrated....

Slava Ukraini....... Glory to the heroes.

So na you for Naija with your cheap ass phone that is seeing the strategy Putin did not see abi.

You look like those jobless roadside analysts.

tamdun:

Did you even consider the distance between US and Bulgaria? US gas can never be cheaper that Russia gas and incase u don't know, protest is going on in Bulgaria,some Europeans are getting tired already

U av tym replying dose western mumu.Bulgaria dat has bn at d forefront of blocking energy sanctions,is getting cheaper gas frm USA? anything to make western ignoramus feel gud is highly welcome.

ISabiDisturb:


LNG to Bulgaria would dock in Greece which is 800km from Bulgaria.

Russian gas pipeline distance to Bulgaria covers a little over 4000km

In layman's terms explain to me how something coming from a little over 4000km away would be cheaper than something coming from 800km away.

I would like to learn your Statistics and economics

Because it comes through pipes that cut across Europe and on discounted prices, those pipes remains constant and the cheapest means of transporting gas thus reducing cost. You have these facilities these for so many years , with LNG comes shipping cost and port facilities is something you have to always spend for.

https://www.shipleyenergy.com/resources/commercial/cng-vs-lng-whats-the-difference-which-is-best-for-your-commercial-fleet

AllKnowing:
Okay okay igbofam! I have never bothered to comment on your many posts about Russia/ Ukraine/ US.

Wait, you’re a Nigerian like me yeah? What’s our gain if these nations kill themselves? But check out the image below and see why this new agreement may be a pipe dream. If it goes through, Bulgarians will bear the brunt of expensive logistics.

Or will the US subsidize gas for them

This rubbish fake map? where Russia is bigger than Africa.

Smh

bakar007:


Because it comes through pipes that cut across Europe and on discounted prices, those pipes remains constant and the cheapest means of transporting gas thus reducing cost. You have these facilities these for so many years , with LNG comes shipping cost and port facilities is something you have to always spend for.

Do you know what an LNG terminal is and how LNG flows to it's destination for use?

Do you know what an LNG storage facility is?

Does LNG flow via the air or via LNG pipelines?

Let's test your intelligence a bit.

Meanwhile Russian gas prices to Bulgaria increased by about 15% due to Bulgaria's refusal to pay in Russian Rubles.

Why then do you think Bulgaria said they can now get it for cheaper especially since the prices increased by 15% from Russia?

Or are you not aware of this?

bakar007:


Only a stupid human being would think US LNG would be cheaper than gas through pipeline .

Educate yourself.

Nigeria has been shipping LNG to Europe for years and till date.

LNG is abundant and can be sourced from any part of the world at even much more cheaper rate.

Lots of country are looking for the market.

LNG is not a scarce resource.

ISabiDisturb:


Do you know what an LNG terminal is and how LNG flows to it's destination for use?

Do you know what an LNG storage facility is?

Does LNG flow via the air or via LNG pipelines?

Let's test your intelligence a bit.

Meanwhile Russian gas prices to Bulgaria increased by about 15% due to Bulgaria's refusal to pay in Russian Rubles.

Why then do you think Bulgaria said they can now get it for cheaper especially since the prices increased by 15% from Russia?

Or are you not aware of this?

Hello!

LNG is shipped via vessels.

Nigeria exports to Europe and LNG shipment is not a new thing. It’s over 2 decades old.

Demolakay:

quit ur delusion bro.American gas is very light nd nt suitable to Europe. Go do ur research.All dose flexing deir muscle,no one will tell dem bfor running back.Europe has no alternative to Russia cheap gas,infact d prime minister of Italy mario Draghi said European countries are already opening ruble account nd paying for gas in rubles.All of d Germany gas dealers already started paying in rubles.pls go nd do ur research.Bulgaria is banking on other European buyers,buying in surplus,den inturn sell to dem.D weather is still ok ova deir nw,wen winter sets in,evry1 sense go formalize.If USA gas is dat gud,European union will nt only ban Russia oil,bt also gas.

Thank you very much for this your reply void of insult.

It is well noted and Time would tell.

I am well aware of Companies that have started paying for Russian Energy in roubles.

But the European Union over-reliance on Russian Energy poses a huge security risk.

The Russian War chest cannot be continually funded by the EU, for them to now use it to Invade their European neighbors tomorrow.

Russia has this "untrustworthy image" about them and that was why the NATO alliance was formed.

The same untrustworthy image is now finding expression with their invasion of Ukraine. The European Union has no choice but to respond.

Nobody would have thought in January that Finland and Sweden would be talking of NATO membership In May. But it is happening before our very eyes.

So European countries would have to reject the bait of cheap gas from the Kremlin because every bait would eventually lead to a disastrous outcome.

SARSCoV2:



Hello!

LNG is shipped via vessels.

Nigeria exports to Europe and LNG shipment is not a new thing. It’s over 2 decades old.

Shipped and then stored and supplied how?

ISabiDisturb:


Shipped and then stored and supplied how?

Liquefied Natural Gas


It’s compressed and stored.


Visit LNG Bonny. Rivers State

Basher8583:


So na you for Naija with your cheap ass phone that is seeing the strategy Putin did not see abi.

You look like those jobless roadside analysts.

And this your comment makes you look like what ?

A Useless Buffoon that cannot reply sensibly without casting Aspersions.

Abeg Shift.

No time for Foolish people that are cursed from their village.

And for your information, I am not in Naija.

SARSCoV2:



Liquefied Natural Gas


It’s compressed and stored.


Visit LNG Bonny. Rivers State

You are clearly not knowledgeable about this topic you are fixated on.

LNG pipelines have been in existence for decades and the supply of LNG to Bulgaria would be coming through the Greek LNG terminal in Alexandroupolis

Find attached the map showing the LNG pipeline links from Greece to Bulgaria, Romania, etc.

The world has left Russia behind

ISabiDisturb:


You are clearly not knowledgeable about this topic you are fixated on.

LNG pipelines have been in existence for decades and the supply of LNG to Bulgaria would be coming through the Greek LNG terminal in Alexandroupolis

Find attached the map showing the LNG pipeline links from Greece to Bulgaria, Romania, etc.

The world has left Russia behind

Sigh….

Who told u that the US LNG gas is cheaper??

This is why germany etc don't want to switch off Russian gas asap..!

Russia maybe problematic but their gas is cheaper for Europe cos it flows through pipeline

SARSCoV2:


Educate yourself.

Nigeria has been shipping LNG to Europe for years and till date.

LNG is abundant and can be sourced from any part of the world at even much more cheaper rate.

Lots of country are looking for the market.

LNG is not a scarce resource.

LNG is more expensive than pipeline gas , go educate urself Pls.

bakar007:


LNG is more expensive than pipeline gas , go educate urself Pls.

The point is that it’s possible.

Many nations feed through that stream.

favinvest:
Who told u that the US LNG gas is cheaper??

This is why germany etc don't want to switch off Russian gas asap..!

Russia maybe problematic but their gas is cheaper for Europe cos it flows through pipeline

The only reason Germany is yet to switch off their Russian gas supply is simply because they failed to invest massively in floating LNG storages like Lithuania did which enabled them to stop receiving gas from Russia.

Also with the coming online of Norwegian gas pipelines, Russia would eventually also lose Germany because Germany is already working with Norway to connect to the Norwegian pipelines.

Norway already supplies about 30% of all the gas consumed by all of Europe and can easily increase their production.

US gas can never be cheaper than Russian gas, first think of the cost of labor in the US compare to Russia.

Norway has a large deposit of gas, think all EU countries should get their gas from there.