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Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:08pm On Jun 19, 2022 |
immaculatesense: Guy i've told you that i'm Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses, we don't do all those stuffs of yours where you give what you have and take from your fellow Churchgoers. We PREACH and TEACH those who are willing to learn so if you're not ready to learn we will take our leave and you can continue exchanging your stuff with your fellow Churchgoers! Before Noah's time angels don't know humans are enjoying something they (angels) can enjoy that's why Satan went to heaven and told them to look into what is called SEX. They were moved so they abandoned their abode {Jude 6} and came down to make use of the dust of the ground which God used to form Adam. They formed beautiful bodies that's irresistible for female humans and since they're highly intelligent with the ability to earn whatever it takes to pay ladies all were running after them. Genesis 6:2 For your information that's how Satan dragged one third of the angels in heaven to join him in rebelling against God {Revelations 12:4} and most people do wonder why God had to use flood to destroy Noah's generation? Well it's because God doesn't want the angels to make further use of the original soil He use to form Adam anymore so the flood washed them away and that's why we have deserts on the planet otherwise the whole earth supposed to be habitable for humans with green vegetations everywhere! Genesis 1:27-28 That's the origin of demons God never created any angel to become a demon they left their proper dwelling places during Noah's time and God disowned them! 1Peter 3:19-20 So when the true God said there's no God anywhere else apart from Him {Exodus 20:2-3} it's because all other nations were worshiping demons there's no God beside the Holy One of Israel. That's why He sent Moses and said "i have made you God" because before the messenger of the true God all those demons will become powerless! Exodus 8:18-19 I hope you have learned a lot but if you're still anticipating the usual give and take stuff with your fellow Churchgoers abeg count me out. Iron do sharpen iron {Proverbs 27:17} it's only applicable in the gathering of the worshipers of my own God so if you're not with us there's practically nothing sacred we can learn from you! 2Corinthians 6:14 May you have PEACE! 1 Like |
Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by Kobojunkie: 7:08pm On Jun 19, 2022 |
immaculatesense:1. I don't do sects. That said, the only one Jesus Christ actuality commanded His followers to believe in and obey is Himself. So logically if I chose to trust and obey Jesus Christ, it follows that I will not trust nor obey anyone else. Duh! 2a. I do understand "inspiration" which in no way means certification of Truth. In Genesis 2, we learn tha the knowledge of Good and of Evil, all belongs to God, meaning all knowledge is "inspired" by God. Does this mean all knowledge is True? Absolutely not! So stop brandishing the word "inspired" as though it is unique to even scripture because it isn't. 2b. As for what is written in 2 Samuel 24:1 & 1 Chronicles 21:1, if you understand who Satan is and who he works for, you would understand that those two passages speak of the same thing which is that God caused David to disobey Him. Focus on God, not morals and then you will learn God's Truth instead of your meaningless morals. 3. Again, Jesus Christ made it clear to you in John 6 vs 25 - 35 that instead of working to earn your living aka perishable bread, you are to instead work for bread that sustains to eternity which only He can give to you if you submit and obey Him. I believe God's Truth. |
Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by Cypress042: 7:09pm On Jun 19, 2022 |
Major7:that's his problem afterall. |
Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:16pm On Jun 19, 2022 |
baajetu: NO he learned from his father {John 14:31} but after the rebellion in the garden of Eden it's the son who pleaded in our behalf because humans are the most precious to Jesus after God used him to create all other things! Proverbs 8:22-31 compare to John 1:1 That's why God vowed in His anger that His wrath will be upon whoever ignore or disobey Jesus of Nazareth! John 3:16-18 May you have PEACE! |
Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by Joshuam1(m): 7:28pm On Jun 19, 2022 |
immaculatesense: You are right, it is not master and slave, it is partnership. 1 Like |
Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by immaculatesense(m): 7:29pm On Jun 19, 2022 |
Kobojunkie:You are just rigmaroling...the question is should a believer work to earn or not... u av bn quoting Bible verses and we av read it...just answer YES or NO...simple...and save us the stress...or are u feeling shy or afraid of saying Yes or No? |
Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by immaculatesense(m): 7:31pm On Jun 19, 2022 |
Joshuam1:Okay...good |
Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by Kobojunkie: 7:37pm On Jun 19, 2022 |
immaculatesense:Again, Jesus Christ made it clear to you in John 6 vs 25 - 35 that instead of working to earn your living aka perishable bread, you are to instead work for bread that sustains to eternity which only He can give to you if you submit and obey Him. Jesus Christ said those who love Him are those who continously submit to and obey His commandments. - John 14 vs 15 - 25 & John 15 vs 14 The reason I show you Bible verses showing you what Jesus Christ Himself said is so you know His Truth from the many lies you seem to hold to as far as His Kingdom is concerned. |
Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by udoh2k: 7:42pm On Jun 19, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Of course the Word of God is God. His Spirit is God. Both his Word and His Spirit can operate seperately, but same God. That's why he is God...it goes beyond natural understanding. |
Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:49pm On Jun 19, 2022 |
udoh2k: Trinitarian delusion at work! 1 Like |
Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by udoh2k: 7:58pm On Jun 19, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: The Word was God... The Word became flesh (i.e. human but still having divinity ) and dwelt among us. |
Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by Lucymercy: 8:00pm On Jun 19, 2022 |
[color=#006600][/color] englishmart:A little wine is good for the body.... I think it's somewhere in Timothy 1 or 2 |
Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by immaculatesense(m): 8:05pm On Jun 19, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:Dear MaxinDHouse I just felt like crying for u...u seem lost and brainwash with analogy that as not ground...u distorted the meaning of Jude 6...read and let me explain it to u Jude 1:6 [6]And I remind you of the angels who did not stay within the limits of authority God gave them but left the place where they belonged. God has kept them securely chained in prisons of darkness, waiting for the great day of judgment. Explanation They (Angels) did no stay within the limit of authority God gave them..." This angels were giving roles and hierarchy by God but we're deceived by the devil who wanted a higher position himself by promising them a higher and better roles and authority more than the one God has given to them. Compare it with Isaiah 14:13-14 [13]For you said to yourself, ‘I will ascend to heaven and set my throne above God’s stars. I will preside on the mountain of the gods far away in the north. [14]I will climb to the highest heavens and be like the Most High.’ Let me explain the later part... "...God has kept them chained in prison of darkness waiting for the day of judgement" Explanation Instead of getting to that higher role,they find themselves demoted and chained(i.e restricted) to the worse and awaiting their judgement. Compare it with Isaiah 14:15,19 [15]Instead, you will be brought down to the place of the dead, down to its lowest depths. [19]but you will be thrown out of your grave like a worthless branch. Like a corpse trampled underfoot, you will be dumped into a mass grave with those killed in battle. You will descend to the pit. You went further to distort the story of the flood and Noah...let me ask u and ask ursef or ur teachers... Why was Noah and his family spared? Didn't he also carry the blood of those demons? If he does,are we not all carry their blood? If he doesn't,how can we prove dat and why did he have to preach for 100's of years...since others are carrying the blood of demons...why is God looking for way out for them... Think man Think...don't be restrictive I always tell u...u av got potentials...but ur restricting ursef 1 Like |
Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by immaculatesense(m): 8:11pm On Jun 19, 2022 |
Kobojunkie:Should we work and earn money? Yes or No...simple...are u afraid to defend ursef? Yes or No |
Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by udoh2k: 8:15pm On Jun 19, 2022 |
AYNL: Caesar was the leader of the Roman Govt at that time (so he represents govt) .They were to pay tribute money (tax, dues etc) to caesar. God is God. Pay govt dues to govt. Pay God dues (tithe, offering, worship, praise, honour etc) to God. 1 Like |
Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by RealEzee(m): 8:15pm On Jun 19, 2022 |
Kobojunkie:yep he did,do you dispute the same Christ who said to Peter upon this rock I will build my church? in his church in the scriptures Peter was called to oversee the administration after his resurrection, that keys of the kingdom is what gave Peter the right to receive revelation for the church in general ,one of those revelations was for the gospel to be preached to the gentiles and Paul was extended that calling by the hand of the presiding council of the church i.e Peter,James and John . Not everyone in his church exercise these keys of the kingdom base on the mere fact that they accept Christ as their Lord and savior ,no way,that's chaotic, hence Hebrews 5:4 spells out how this is done,the calling of Paul to the ministry to the gentiles followed this pattern ,this keys of the kingdom refers to priesthood authority,Galatians 2:9 (The presiding council extending the call to Paul to the gentile after Peter received the revelation that it was time for the gospel to extended to those of non Jewish lineage ). That church had several offices of responsibility to cater for his sheep ,yet one church one doctrine not denominations of any sort ,not ones of Paul or ones of Peter, nope one church one leader with Christ as the chief corner stone ,all these various offices of the priesthood were present in his church for the perfecting of the saints i.e they who have come into a covenant with God upon hearing the gospel of christ via baptism and receiving the gift of the holy ghost ,Acts 2:36-39,Ephesians 4:19-22,4:9-16. A trip down history of the early saints will help you see the wonderful events that led to rise of various denominations ,it's beautiful. |
Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by Emusan(m): 8:20pm On Jun 19, 2022 |
You always show how confused you are! MaxInDHouse: Instead of saying something is WRONG, you could have explained in details the usage of the verb WAS but I know your brain capacity isn't high for that. which means the word worked with God but as he is penning down those words the word isn't God rather the word WAS God at some point in time. If you have done little research on the usage of the verb WAS, you'd have saved yourself from this embarrassment. [s]Moses WAS God at a point in time too Exodus 7:1 therefore if Moses worked with God in delivering Israel out of Egypt and WAS God while in Egypt it doesn't mean that Moses IS God rather he served as God at a point in time.[/s] Irrelevant! So the correct interpretation of that verse would be: Just look at the nonsense you spew in above At least you can see how John patterned his statement with that of Adam and Eve. You have shifted from your initial point of BOTH GOD when I gave you Bible expository The use of capital for both God and the one with God makes no practical sense because all other verses afterwards shows that the word is God's messenger. Another delusion, there's no CAPITAL LETTER in Greek |
Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by Kobojunkie: 8:21pm On Jun 19, 2022 |
immaculatesense:Again, Jesus Christ made it clear to you in John 6 vs 25 - 35 that instead of working to earn your living aka perishable bread, you are to instead work for bread that sustains to eternity which only He can give to you if you submit and obey Him. Jesus Christ said those who love Him are those who continously submit to and obey His commandments. - John 14 vs 15 - 25 & John 15 vs 14 The reason I show you Bible verses showing you what Jesus Christ Himself said is so you know His Truth from the many lies you seem to hold to as far as His Kingdom is concerned. |
Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by jafaru196: 8:24pm On Jun 19, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:you are half wrong,Jesus did not beg God the father,he is the one who sent him.the God heads work in unison,one cannot say another thing . 1 Like |
Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by Kobojunkie: 8:25pm On Jun 19, 2022 |
RealEzee:As the other already informed you, Jesus Christ did not in fact mean that Peter was the rock on which His Church is built, this since the church is instead built on the teachings(and commandments) of Jesus Christ, the one who is described as the Vine - John 15 vs 1 - 11 where all His followers, including Peter , are branches directly off the vine. |
Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by immaculatesense(m): 8:37pm On Jun 19, 2022 |
Kobojunkie:I give up on u man... |
Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by Kobojunkie: 8:39pm On Jun 19, 2022 |
immaculatesense:Again, Jesus Christ made it clear to you in John 6 vs 25 - 35 that instead of working to earn your living aka perishable bread, you are to instead work for bread that sustains to eternity which only He can give to you if you submit and obey Him. Jesus Christ said those who love Him are those who continously submit to and obey His commandments. - John 14 vs 15 - 25 & John 15 vs 14 The reason I show you Bible verses showing you what Jesus Christ Himself said is so you know His Truth from the many lies you seem to hold to as far as His Kingdom is concerned. |
Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by udoh2k: 8:39pm On Jun 19, 2022 |
In the Old Testament, God permitted the Jews to physically fight and destroy those that made themselves enemies of God (only at His command). But now, in the New Testament, Jesus came to reconcile all, including those that made themselves enemies of God (John 3:16). And so, we no longer wrestle against flesh and blood (fellow humans) but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. EPH 6:22 UyaiIncomparabl: |
Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by udoh2k: 8:50pm On Jun 19, 2022 |
akeeng: This instruction of Paul to Timothy was a "medical advice". It was not a call to drunkenness or consumation of strong drink. Even some present day medicines contain some kind of alcohol ,perhaps responsible for diziness. It's purely medicinal when precribed...outside that...it is drug abuse, self medication. |
Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:57pm On Jun 19, 2022 |
jafaru196: Argue with what the Bible says i'm through with you! 1 Like |
Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by immaculatesense(m): 9:10pm On Jun 19, 2022 |
udoh2k:Dear udoh2k May I ask...which passage of the Bible ask us not to drink alcohol or strong drink...cos I av read through the scriptures and the only thing I see is warning against getting DRUNK.. Cos even Jesus Christ drinks Alcohol (since the definition of wine contains anytin that has alcohol) wine /wʌɪn/ noun an alcoholic drink made from fermented grape juice. What do u think about this verse Read Luke 7:33-34 [33]For John the Baptist didn’t spend his time eating bread or drinking wine, and you say, ‘He’s possessed by a demon.’ [34]The Son of Man, on the other hand, feasts and drinks, and you say, ‘He’s a glutton and a drunkard, and a friend of tax collectors and other sinners!’ Any question? |
Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by udoh2k: 9:11pm On Jun 19, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: I don't know what's your meaning of trinity. But I have seen in the Bible where: The Word of God is called God. Capital G. The Spirit of God is called God. Capital G. And God Himself is called God. Capital G. And yet only one God. Meaning the Word of His mouth is a living 'Being'. The Spirit in Him is a living 'Being'. See 1John5:7 |
Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:25pm On Jun 19, 2022 |
immaculatesense: Guy i've told you that you and i aren't on the same page so if you have any question just go ahead and ask, if not hold onto whatever you want i'm not a worshiper of your God. Your three questions: (1) Noah and his family didn't become violent like other humans. Due to the way the giant sons of angels were causing trouble everywhere most people also became violent to combat the violent giants but instead of joining them Noah became a preacher {2Peter 2:5} so God looked down from heaven and Noah and his family were approved for salvation! (2) No the giants were born by fallen angels but there were male humans too like Noah married with their own children they're the ones Noah preached to not the fallen angels or their violent giant children! (3) He was 100% human that's why all his descendants were humans. Let me give you a gist: Have you heard of Ọmọlúàbí before? Well the Yorùbá people learned from history that after the destruction of evil people only Lúà (Noah) and his descendants were virtuous that's why they always refer to virtuous people as "Ọmọ tí Lúà bí" Just calm down and learn! 1 Like |
Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:27pm On Jun 19, 2022 |
udoh2k: By their FRUITS you will know them! Matthew 7:16 What's the fruit of TRINITY worship in the human society? 1 Like |
Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by udoh2k: 9:29pm On Jun 19, 2022 |
Kabikala: The confusion is that Peter means stone. Jesus is the Rock (a bigger Stone). So Jesus may be saying, although you are a stone, but I will build my church on this bigger Stone (Himself). He must have demonstrated with His hands...either pointing at Peter or pointing at Himself (we were not there). I nevertheless go by ur explanation. |
Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by Janosky: 9:35pm On Jun 19, 2022 |
Emusan:Greek 1510 "WAS" without definite article at John 10:33, Acts 28:6, Acts 12:22, "was a god". Four scriptural evidences & examples & more which your fellow Trinitarians agreed. Wayo Trinitarian dubiously put "is" wey no deh him Bible at John 1:1 Emusan:Wayo Trinitarian posting faulty analogy. Did your Bible tell you Adam and Eve is one being? John 10:30 & John 4:24, did Jesus Christ tell is one being? Your Friend OLAADEGBU said "Jesus is Jehovah". 1 Corinthians 11:3 Greek: "the God is Head of Christ, the man is head of woman". Do you agree? Emusan:Genesis 5:1 references only Adam. Genesis 5:2,"so both Male and the female were collectively called MAN" Yes ! Did God ever tell Emusan that Adam and Eve is one being? Why do you claim that 2 entities, Jesus & his Father is one being? Did God collectively call his son & himself by one name as he called Adam and Eve "Man"? No ! Oga, your fake analogy goes to the dustbin. Emusan:Genesis 1:26 "Let us make man" references only Adam. Why? Genesis 1:27, "And God went on to create the man (Adam),in God's image He created him (Adam). Genesis 2:20-21 Eve was an afterthought. "The man" Adam, did you see it? Emusan: Emusan,Why do you like to deceive yourself? Genesis 1:26-27, is Eve "the Man"? No way ! Genesis 1:27" ;DThe Man" Adam ! Full stop. The woman is not "the Man" Adam. The woman is a man By nature. Likewise,"the Word was with the God (his Father, ho Theos) recall,Adam is "the Man" not Eve). Likewise,"the word is a god" like God,godlike, divine by nature. By nature ,the word resembles God. By nature, the woman resembles Man. Na JWs ,Emphatic Diaglott, James Moffat,Sahidic Coptic truly understand John 1:1 |
Re: What Is The Most Seemingly Misinterpreted Portion Of The Bible? by jafaru196: 9:39pm On Jun 19, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:John 3:16 , reads: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” who sent him there ?. john 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise. john 10:13 I and my father are one. There is nothing Jesus did that was not the will of the father |
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