immaculatesense:

Dear MaxinDHouse
Another misinterpretation of the Genesis and Job's "sons of God"...they don't mean angels...
I don't really av time now but a quick one...
According to Genesis...if the sons of God are angels does that mean they were men with genital who has semen and can reproduce?...are there female angels and is there continuous reproductive activities going on in heaven?..that will negate Jesus statement in Matthew 22:29-30
[29]Jesus replied, “Your mistake is that you don’t know the Scriptures, and you don’t know the power of God.
[30]For when the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage. In this respect they will be like the angels in heaven.

And in Job's sons of God cannot also mean the angels because the Bible made us to know that the devil came amongst them...does that mean that even after many years of the fall of the devil up to the time of Job...the devil still available access to the throne of God?...
That will be against Revelation 12:8-9
[8]And the dragon lost the battle, and he and his angels were forced out of heaven.
[9]This great dragon—the ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, the one deceiving the whole world—was thrown down to the earth with all his angels.

The sons of God was a term used to qualify the righteous group people at the time.

Genesis sons of God was for the family of Seth before they mingled with the daughters of Cain because of the civilization and beauty at the time...

Job's sons of God was for the likes of Job and his friends amongst others who always offer sacrifices before God always...but at a point in time while the devil was moving to and fro on the earth...he came to encounter these set of people who are righteous...that was wen the Lord was now boasting of particularly Job whose righteousness weighs beyond others..

Even Adam was referred to as son of God in Luke 3:38
[38]Kenan was the son of Enosh.Enosh was the son of Seth.Seth was the son of Adam.Adam was the son of God.

So...this sons of God and angel kinda tin is not it at all...

Guy you just like stories!

Angels are the sons of God only born again Christians later became "Sons of God" {John :11-12} because they will also become like angels in heaven! Matthew 22:30

@ Genesis 6 angels came down materialised bodies for themselves and started mating with female humans. Daughters of men belongs to humans for marriage but angels aren't supposed to mate with humans that's why the ladies bear unusual babies (giants) for them.

So calm down and learn, humans are supposed to marry humans there's nothing strange if humans marry humans but it's due to the fact that the ones talked about there aren't humans that's why the Bible says "the sons of God married the daughters of men"

Joshuam1:

Well the writer was John the beloved a disciple of Christ. Then you can't understand John 1:1-2

Sebi you understand, shey?

Joshuam1:


The will of the church is subjected to the will of Christ, as a good church you do what Christ wants you to do, not what you want to do.

As a good church you ask permission from Christ in prayer to know what he wants you to do.

1 Corinthians 11:3
But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

Dear Joshuam 1
U are great point...but the submission of a woman to man is not d kinda submission that happens between a master and his slave...
Remember Paul even said in Ephesians 5:21
[21]And further, submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.
Before verse 22...Ephesians 5:22
[22]For wives, this means submit to your husbands as to the Lord.

The reason for the submission is like a pilot or captain of the ship...two captain cannot drive a ship at the same time...dat doesn't mean he cannot be guided or question by other co workers in the ship...Read 1 Corinthians 11:11
[11]But among the Lord’s people, women are not independent of men, and men are not independent of women.

God and Paul decided to delegate this authority to either of the man or woman...the man was chosen for many reasons that Paul highlighted in 1 Timothy 2:13-14
[13]For God made Adam first, and afterward he made Eve.
[14]And it was not Adam who was deceived by Satan. The woman was deceived, and sin was the result.
And in 1 Corinthians 11:8-9
[8]For the first man didn’t come from woman, but the first woman came from man.
[9]And man was not made for woman, but woman was made for man.

I hope u can understand these...it's more of partnership but one as to take the forefront than master stroke servant relationship where one controls the other whether right it wrong

naija4life247:


All you quoted are about Breasts.

My brethren, will you and I make Heaven like this?

Isn't it amazing that the inspiration of the Lord could mention b* so much in vivid and melancholic description!

I will make heaven!

immaculatesense:
1. U are great point...but the submission of a woman to man is not d kinda submission that happens between a master and his slave...
The reason for the submission is like a pilot or captain of the ship...two captain cannot drive a ship at the same time...dat doesn't mean he cannot be guided or question by other co workers in the ship...Read 1

2. God and Paul decided to delegate this authority to either of the man or woman...the man was chosen for many reasons that Paul highlighted in 1
I hope u can understand these...it's more of partnership but one as to take the forefront than master stroke servant relationship where one controls the other whether right it wrong

I see in desperation you are again trying to redefine/twist what is written in order that you can continue bowing to God's curse on marriage - Genesis 3 vs 16 - while you delude yourself that you are redeemed from the very same curse by Jesus Christ. Just know that God is not a fool!

2. God and Paul delegate authority? You actually think God to be an imbe_cile, don't you?

AntiChristian:
1. Isn't it amazing that the inspiration of the Lord could mention b* so much in vivid and melancholic description!

2. I will make heaven!

You are joking, right?

2. How do you intend on doing that exactly?

MaxInDHouse:


Guy you just like stories!

Angels are the sons of God only born again Christians later became "Sons of God" {John :11-12} because they will also become like angels in heaven! Matthew 22:30

@ Genesis 6 angels came down materialised bodies for themselves and started mating with female humans. Daughters of men belongs to humans for marriage but angels aren't supposed to mate with humans that's why the ladies bear unusual babies (giants) for them.

So calm down and learn, humans are supposed to marry humans there's nothing strange if humans marry humans but it's due to the fact that the ones talked about there aren't humans that's why the Bible says "the sons of God married the daughters of men"

Lol...u didn't answer all the fact questions I presented...do angel reproduce? Do the devil still available access to the throne of God?
See the etymology of the Hebrew word "sons of God on Wikipedia...the oldest believe from the earliest Hebrew historians who said they are righteous people rather than angel before the later ones that started the debate it to be angels rather than righteous people...

Even in Judaism that predate Christianity interpretes sons of God as righteous people of God
See

Kobojunkie:
You are joking, right?

2. How do you intend on doing that exactly?

Joking on what? The Bible verses that mentions breasts many times were inspired and written in your Bible. No be joke.

Heaven is for the pious and righteous!

immaculatesense:

Dear Bahamas95
Where is it in the Bible that u shud not drink

Can u quote it out for me

I only know the Bible said do not be drunk with wine
Ephesians 5:18
[18]Don’t be drunk with wine, because that will ruin your life. Instead, be filled with the Holy Spirit,

I don't understand what you're driving at, the question is about misinterpretation of the Bible.....That's how alcohol lovers interprete that passage judging by what I always hear them say. That "excess" is what they focus on.

AntiChristian:
Joking on what? The Bible verses that mentions breasts many times were inspired and written in your Bible. No be joke.

Heaven is for the pious and righteous!

What is wrong with writings on breasts and inspiration? You think pornographic writings aren't inspired?

Heaven is for those who are born-again aka who are of the Kingdom of God. So your righteousness and piousness is filthy rags if you are not at least born-again.

Kobojunkie:
I see in desperation you are again trying to redefine/twist what is written in order that you can continue bowing to God's curse on marriage - Genesis 3 vs 16 - while you delude yourself that you are redeemed from the very same curse by Jesus Christ. Just know that God is not a fool!

2. God and Paul delegate authority? You actually think God to be an imbe_cile, don't you?

Dear kobojunkie...
If I and u are captain and well trained ones...we wanna jump into ship...won't we first sit to decide which of us will drive the wheel? Amos 3:3 comes to mind Amos 3:3
[3]Can two people walk together
    without agreeing on the direction?

U are bothered about my usage of God and Paul?...God commands...Paul convey it in writing or do God write by himself to us from heaven?

U talk about curse...why are you surprised...wen Adam and Eve sinned...didn't God curse them that they will die?...when Jesus came to save us...did that still stop man from dieing(natural death) till date? Why do women still available to go through pain in child bearing according to the curse? If the curse is total over?


Ur so funny...u make me laugh

Bahamas95:
I don't understand what you're driving at, the question is about misinterpretation of the Bible.....That's how alcohol lovers interprete that passage judging by what I always hear them say. That "excess" is what they focus on.

I understand u...they are not wrong if they focus on the excess...cos that's wats wrong...and wat do u mean by alcohol lover? Is it people dat love to drink alcohol or peoplethat get drunk drinking alcohol...cos the people who love drinking alcohol are not breaking any rule but those who love to drink drunk are...so,they are different

Kobojunkie:
What is wrong with writings on breasts and inspiration? You think pornographic writings aren't inspired?

Heaven is for those who are born-again aka who are of the Kingdom of God. So your righteousness and piousness is filthy rags if you are not at least born-again.

Try and let your female daughter memorise such verses. Abeg of what use are such verses?

Was Moses born again? Abraham, David and even John the Baptist?

All those your born again theory na lie!

Cypress042:
God help those who help themselves.


Where's that verse in the bible

People use it alot but i don't think is in the bible.

Not in my bible

immaculatesense:
1. If I and u are captain and well trained ones...we wanna jump into ship...won't we first sit to decide which of us will drive the wheel? Amos 3:3 comes to mind Amos 3:3
[3]Can two people walk together
    without agreeing on the direction?

2. U are bothered about my usage of God and Paul?...God commands...Paul convey it in writing or do God write by himself to us from heaven?

3. U talk about curse...why are you surprised...wen Adam and Eve sinned...didn't God curse them that they will die?...when Jesus came to save us...did that still stop man from dieing(natural death) till date? Why do women still available to go through pain in child bearing according to the curse? If the curse is total over?


Ur so funny...u make me laugh

1. So you are saying that you bend what is written in order to have it conform to your will because you are a captain much like God is supposed to be?

2. Paul wrote down the Gospel, Jesus Christ, God's Law in the Kingdom of God?

Your claimed that authority was bestowed upon you in the name of Paul's, and that is what I am concerned with understanding the how and why of.

3. Your rambling does not make sense of any kind. God cursed mankind in Genesis 3 vs 16 vs 22, and then God sent Jesus Christ to redeem men from that curse. Meaning that those who belong to Jesus Christ are to, through obedience of Him, no longer live under the curse. What part of this do you have issue with understanding?

AntiChristian:
1.Try and let your female daughter memorise such verses. Abeg of what use are such verses?

2. Was Moses born again? Abraham, David and even John the Baptist?

3. All those your born again theory na lie!

1. First of all, why would anyone need to memorize any of what is written in scripture to begin with? Second, what is wrong with memorizing the poems written by Solomon about his beloved? Is that worse than what kids learn from school or their friends?

2. Moses, Abraham and David aren't in Heaven though, so?

3. What you claim is theory is the Law as far as the Kingdom of God where Heaven happens to be situated. So, if the King says you at least have to be born-again, is it your intention to bulldoze your way into His Kingdom against His Will?

7arrows:


Not in my bible

Lol, do you have any other bible apart from the one i know? Not doubting you tho but because of the way you wrote it

AntiChristian:


You should have quoted just one verse to prove yourself. But you goofed! Okay read ahead!

Sometimes, people are indeed honest enough to admit that the Bible really does not prohibit polygamy (polygyny). However, as a hedge against that admission, such ones may then resort to saying one of the following assertions:

"Yes, but God never condoned polygamy."
"Yes, God allowed it, but He was against polygamy."
"Polygamy was only man's idea, not God's".
"Yes, but God never approved of polygamy."

The passage involving 2 Samuel 12:8 rather clearly reveals otherwise.
"And I gave thee thy master's house, and thy master's wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things."
2 Samuel 12:8.

The context of the verse is that of God, speaking through a prophet (Nathan), calling out David for David's sin of taking another man's wife (Bathsheba, wife of Uriah the Hittite), which is adultery indeed, and for setting up the death of Uriah the Hittite to try to hide David's sin.

Also, at the point in time of this situation, David had already been married to at least seven known-named wives. (1 Samuel 18:27, 25:42-43, 2 Samuel 3:2-5.)

But, in this verse 12 (above), God was not condemning David for all his wives! In fact, this verse 12 shows God Himself actually saying that HE was the One Who had GIVEN David His wives.

If God was against David's polygamy, He certainly would not have said that He had GIVEN David his wives.

But the LORD did not stop there. That verse 12 shows that the Lord took it even one step further than that! The LORD God even went on further to say that if David had wanted more wives, the Lord Himself said that He would have given David even more!

It was only because David had sinned, in committing adultery by taking another man's wife, and then causing that man's death to try to hide David's sin, that the Lord was calling him out through the prophet Nathan. There was no sin in the polygamy at all.

This is later confirmed that this was the only matter by 1 Kings 15:5, which says the following:

"Because David did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, and turned not aside from any thing that he commanded him all the days of his life, save only in the matter of Uriah the Hittite. "
1 Kings 15:5.

Two verses before that, in 1 Kings 15:3, the Bible says that David's heart was perfect with the LORD God.

Very clearly, therefore, what all this shows is that God is the One Who gives wives, even when more than one wife.

This is, of course, confirmed by 1_Corinthians 7:17.

"But as God hath distributed to every man,
as the Lord hath called every one,
so let him walk.
And so ordain I in all churches."
1 Corinthians 7:17.

Be it
NO wife,
ONE wife, or
MORE THAN ONE wife,
it is only has God calls and gives.

As such, it is clear that the Bible does, in fact, explicitly show

"Yes, God did condone polygamy."
"Yes, God allowed it, and He was not against polygamy."
"Polygamy is not a man's idea, but God's".
"Yes, God did approve of polygamy."
In 2 Samuel 12:8, He Himself said so!

It was not my intention to delve into whether God approves of polygamy but to show you that Moses never married two wives as you and your teachers sought to erroneously imply.
Throughout the Bible, Moses is reputed to have two sons Gershon and Eliezer, both from Ziporrah. Major characters in the Bible usually have their children mentioned. So either you imply that the Cushite woman was barren (which will also have been mentioned), or she is simply a figment of your imagination.

As for the polygamy question, it is interesting that you Muslims derive so much joy from quoting old testament scriptures to back up your wild claims while ignoring Christ's explicit injunctions. The injunction of Christ concerning marriage as found in Matthew 19:4-6

4Jesus answered, “Have you not read that from the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’a 5and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’b? 6So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate.”

In verse 6, Jesus clearly spelt out that they are no longer two not three, four or five.
If you read further down the chapter, you will see where he even agreed that it is even better not to marry at all. Verse 9 of same chapter says

Now I tell you that whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman, commits adultery

Obviously, if you're not allowed to divorce your wife and marry another except on ground of sexual immorality, how much more marrying others with her. May I also ask. If God allows for polygamy, why peg it at only four? What difference especially does it make? Does that not also mean David whom you quoted here also went against God's law since he married more than four.
And how com one man got waiver for eleven? Of all the other prophets and people since the beginning of the Earth, only one man got that waiver. Why?

So if you wish to follow the letter that kills according to Romans, you're very much free to, but don't rely on the Bible to carry out your personal proclivities

Kobojunkie:
Forget that fantastical story fed you by your pastors and mogs. Instead the meaning of what Jesus Christ said there is found in what is written right there in Matthew 19 vs 16 - 23

this not story Google it,I know this as far as 1988,back then at centre cuture des etats unis d'amerique.

Ojuntana:


It was not my intention to delve into whether God approves of polygamy but to show you that Moses never married two wives as you and your teachers sought to erroneously imply.
Throughout the Bible, Moses is reputed to have two sons Gershon and Eliezer, both from Ziporrah. Major characters in the Bible usually have their children mentioned. So either you imply that the Cushite woman was barren (which will also have been mentioned), or she is simply a figment of your imagination.

As for the polygamy question, it is interesting that you Muslims derive so much joy from quoting old testament scriptures to back up your wild claims while ignoring Christ's explicit injunctions. The injunction of Christ concerning marriage as found in Matthew 19:4-6
In verse 6, Jesus clearly spelt out that they are no longer two not three, four or five.
If you read further down the chapter, you will see where he even agreed that it is even better not to marry at all. Verse 9 of same chapter says

Obviously, if you're not allowed to divorce your wife and marry another except on ground of sexual immorality, how much more marrying others with her.

So if you wish to follow the letter that kills according to Romans, you're very much free to, but don't rely on the Bible to carry out your personal proclivities

I think you have the right to interpret your Bible as you like. Many of such interpretation exists. Some Christians believe as you while others believed as me. All is proven from your Bible.

But as regards your argument on Jesus, he never spoke against polygamy!

All he said was against divorce.

dnawah:
this not story Google it,I know this as far as 1988,back then at centre cuture des etats unis d'amerique.

I know of that fantastical explanation to what Jesus Christ said as well. But I am telling you instead that the meaning of what Jesus Christ said is instead found right there in the context of Matthew 19 vs 16 - 23.

Kobojunkie:
1. So you are saying that you bend what is written in order to have it conform to your will because you are a captain much like God is supposed to be?

2. Paul wrote down the Gospel, Jesus Christ, God's Law in the Kingdom of God?

Your claimed that authority was bestowed upon you in the name of Paul's, and that is what I am concerned with understanding the how and why of.

3. Your rambling does not make sense of any kind. God cursed mankind in Genesis 3 vs 16 vs 22, and then God sent Jesus Christ to redeem men from that curse. Meaning that those who belong to Jesus Christ are to, through obedience of Him, no longer live under the curse. What part of this do you have issue with understanding?

How do u think people see u and ur reply...it does not even correlate with wat ur quoting in my comment
1) Which time did I exemplify God as captain...the captain example I gave was about the man and the woman...go back to dat comment and read again before replying...gushhhh

2) You seem lost in my comment total...who said Paul wrote God's law...I said he wrote the epistle to the church for instruction from God...or do u have issue with 2 Timothy 3:16-17
[16]All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right.
[17]God uses it to prepare and equip his people to do every good work.

Or do u not believe the epistle of Paul for service or doctrine cos it seems I don't know u and ur belief...

3) Do u even know wat Jesus came to do?...after man dies...the hope of salvation is the fact that we have hope to be raised at the last day...do u tink as long as man lives...those things God said in Genesis 3:16-19?...if u say we are free from it in this earth den the last curse is "FOR YOU WERE MADE FROM DUST AND TO DUST SHALL YOU RETURN"
Genesis 3:19
[19]By the sweat of your brow
    will you have food to eat
until you return to the ground
    from which you were made.
For you were made from dust,
    and to dust you will return.”

Wats ur problem with accepting FACTS

immaculatesense:

1) Which time did I exemplify God as captain...the captain example I gave was about the man and the woman...go back to dat comment and read again before replying...gushhhh

2) You seem lost in my comment total...who said Paul wrote God's law...I said he wrote the epistle to the church for instruction from God...or do u have issue with 2 Timothy 3:16-17

Or do u not believe the epistle of Paul for service or doctrine cos it seems I don't know u and ur belief...

3) Do u even know wat Jesus came to do?

4. ...after man dies...the hope of salvation is the fact that we have hope to be raised at the last day...do u tink as long as man lives...those things God said in Genesis 3:16-19?...if u say we are free from it in this earth den the last curse is "FOR YOU WERE MADE FROM DUST AND TO DUST SHALL YOU RETURN"
Genesis 3:19
[19]By the sweat of your brow
    will you have food to eat
until you return to the ground
    from which you were made.
For you were made from dust,
    and to dust you will return.”

Wats ur problem with accepting FACTS

1. I obviously didn't understand the reason behind your two-captains schpeel hence the question.

2a. Instruction from the God who only said His own are to teach the world the very same Gospel He taught to them?

2b. As for inspiration, even the lies spoken by the devil and his demons, all of them recorded in the scriptures are also inspired. So I am not certain why you insist on inspiration as if it is certification of Truth. Unless you are here suggesting demons and devils speak God's Truth.

2c. I only believe in the teachings(and commandments) of Jesus Christ, God's Truth. All other teachings that run in conflict or contradict God's Truth,I ofcourse do not believe in.

3. Oh, I do know what Jesus Christ came to do. He came to redeem/save men from God's curse, and make into Sons of God. Salvation, which you all claim is from God's curse.

4. Those who are of the Kingdom of God have overcome that particular part of the curse by believing in Jesus Christ. Eternal life which you get as you enter into through one of the two gates ensure that you will not return to dust when you die.

Kabikala:
*And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it.*
Matthew 16: 18. RSV.

Many Christians believe that Jesus was inferring that he was going to build his church on Peter, his disciple.

I don't think so.
Jesus would not predicate the entirety of his divine assignment on another human with frailties. Even when that person would deny him a short while later.
I believe Jesus' statement was that his church would be built on that powerful statement uttered by Peter in the earlier verse:
*Simon Peter replied, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”*
Matthew 16:16 RSV

This makes more sense to me. Many Bible scholars think so too.

well Christ gave Peter the mandate to administer in his church ,to him he gave the keys of the kingdom that whatever he binds on earth was bound in heaven I.e authority to act on his behalf in his church .

Many times in the scriptures Peter is been told to feed his sheep,before and soon after Christ resurrection Christ reminds peter to administer to his sheep ,the church.

Peter stood ahead of the apostles to speak on the day of Pentecost, twas Peter the revelation was given to extend the gospel to the gentiles of which Paul received that commission,Galatians 2:9, Peter ,James and John were the presiding council over the early church,hence the pattern here isn't much different from the old testament where God calls a prophet to teach his people his gospel and call them to repentance amos 3:7,surely Christ indeed gave this mandate to Peter .

Authority is critical, hence one cannot act in God's name without been called of God as of Aaron,that's the pattern Hebrews 5:4.

AntiChristian:


I think you have the right to interpret your Bible as you like. Many of such interpretation exists. Some Christians believe as you while others believed as me. All is proven from your Bible.

But as regards your argument on Jesus, he never spoke against polygamy!

All he said was against divorce.

That's because the question asked him was about divorce. But it's obvious in his explanation that he wasn't advocating polygamy. Two (not three or four) shall become one is what he said. In fact, he placed singleness above being married!

There is no biblical interpretation that says Moses had two wives. It's a figment of your imagination. Chronology is part of biblical exegesis and there's no chronology that describes Moses as having two wives or having more than two sons.

Now you've not been able to answer why peg polygamy at four? What difference does it make if it is four or five? If polygamy is right, I see no reason why there should be a maximum limit.

And why was a particular man given license to marry eleven? What exactly was the reason for being given that particular privilege?

Joshuam1:


1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

fantastic!!! These 3 bear record !! 3 beings with one purpose,all shareholders in a company .

During Christ baptism we can see that Christ was on earth, the Father spoke and was heard from heaven,The Holy Ghost also bear record, a sign of a dove upon Christ to John of the divinity of Christ .

All these 3 beings work hand in hand .

This doctrine was changed by the early priests of the Catholic church way back thru debate, lots of doctrine we have now were debated back then usually by majority wins regardless of what's right and apostasy, a trip back to early Christianity will open your mind to many wonderful events ,indeed it's wonderful.

Cheers

MaxInDHouse:


Excellent!
No one can even come any close to God's glory without the Son! John 1:11-12; 14:6

so the son is more merciful than the father ?

RealEzee:
well Christ gave Peter the mandate to administer in his church ,to him he gave the keys of the kingdom that whatever he binds on earth was bound in heaven I.e authority to act on his behalf in his church .

Administer what church, where Jesus?

Jesus Christ gave the same keys of the Kingdom to everyone of His followers, so?

Kobojunkie:
Why does Jesus Christ choke you?

The breakdown na it choke. Thanks for the enlightenment

Kobojunkie:
1. I obviously didn't understand the reason behind your two-captains schpeel hence the question.

2a. Instruction from the God who only said His own are to teach the world the very same Gospel He taught to them?

2b. As for inspiration, even the lies spoken by the devil and his demons, all of them recorded in the scriptures are also inspired. So I am not certain why you insist on inspiration as if it is certification of Truth. Unless you are here suggesting demons and devils speak God's Truth.

2c. I only believe in the teachings(and commandments) of Jesus Christ, God's Truth. All other teachings that run in conflict or contradict God's Truth,I ofcourse do not believe in.

3. Oh, I do know what Jesus Christ came to do. He came to redeem/save men from God's curse, and make into Sons of God. Salvation, which you all claim is from God's curse.

4. Those who are of the Kingdom of God have overcome that particular part of the curse by believing in Jesus Christ. Eternal life which you get as you enter into through one of the two gates ensure that you will not return to dust when you die.

Ohhh..now am beginning to understand the sect u belong...those who really do not believe in Paul's teaching but the first four gospels...ohhh...I get...
But also u don't understand wat inspire means...that doesn't mean perfection but the need to put down sometin...human error is permissible because it deals with perspective...example is..
2 Samuel 24:1
[1]Once again the anger of the lord burned against Israel, and he caused David to harm them by taking a census. “Go and count the people of Israel and Judah,” the lord told him.
And
1 Chronicles 21:1
[1]Satan rose up against Israel and caused David to take a census of the people of Israel.

One writer said the Lord rose against David...another writer Said the Devil rose against david...
This are perspectives but that doesn't change the moral and the purpose...

Let ask straight since I know where u belong now...
Should a believer work to Earn or live without doing nothing?

Cypress042:
God help those who help themselves.


Where's that verse in the bible

People use it alot but i don't think is in the bible.

not in the bible, african cookie jar quote

Cypress042:
Okay thanks

He lies! The verses didn't even reach 50