IbroSaunks:

evil brain,

well maybe i was a little too harsh on the bloke, but i still believe some of the things he said are wrong!!!

if u believe everything scientist say, without looking at other factors, it restricts your vision!

IbroSaunks:

evil brain,

well maybe i was a little too harsh on the bloke, but i still believe some of the things he said are wrong!!!

if u believe everything scientist say, without looking at other factors, it restricts your vision!

IbroSaunks:

@harakiri

i get u man, i know u don't have any beliefs. i know you don't have any answers. I'm not trying to convert u or anything, but my point is, stop  relegating peeps that do believe in stuff, and have their own answers, when u don't even know the answer! Also, i see some atheists have answers, so that probably means there r different types of atheists, so your views cannot be generalized.

lastly, i remember u said something about excuses in reply to one of my first comments, but honestly, simply observing the world around us and its magnificence, and seeing that there really has to be some reason to it all, is not an excuse, its seriously true. i know i would feel so empty, and feel life is worthless, if  i believe it all just happened by coincidence. call it instincts, but even instincts pay off many times. thats just how i feel, and im sure a lot of people feel the same way.

IbroSaunks:

@evil brain

i am not arguing blindly, heck im not even arguing, im saying i BELIEVE charles darwin is wrong about the theory of evolution and i believe God created the earth and us, human beings. I am not going to prove that to you, as i know that even if i try, you will not understand me and would call me things like gullible and sentimental.

The earth did not come to being by an explosion of chemicals, or by coincidence. i continue to take all the things around me in and the more i do that, the more im convinced about the falsity of that. Someone is behind everything, someone has to be, u may call it whatever u want, sentiment, etc, but to me, its as rational as it gets!

harakiri:

Look, all this attempts of mine to try and reason with you people is obviously not going anywhere. You can't not prove the existence of your god and at the same time, you don't understand why i can't be block headed and mentally dull like yourselves to believe in crap! Even moslems and christians have teamed up because they believe "EVERYONE MUST BELONG TO SOMETHING". No wonder Africa remains unprogressive with the reetards that make up the mass majority of it's populace.

Delafruita:

@harakiri

it would tke a really long time to go through the entire thread so please forgive my overisghts if i repeat something that had been posted earlier.

Firstly i must state tht i am a christian.tht however doesnt mean that i havent sometimes asked a lot of questions about "God".

I know i would never have had contact with christianity if the missionaries hadnt come to africa so it gets me wondering if i would have gone to  plce of fiery torment called "hell" if they hadnt come to africa nd i had never heard of the name "Jesus" by which "we shall be saved".

I ask myself why "God" would create the world and then select to himself "his own people" clled isreal out of all the people he created.then he would incite them to wage wars against other people who were also created by God.

I ask myself if God really wnted the isrealites to own a certain land,why didnt he just create them there?

I also ask myself why God who is all-knowing didnt forsee that adam and eve would disobey him.

There are too many questions on the christin "God" that a whole day wont be enough to type them out

as for the holy book called "Bible",thats the only place(with the exception of the Qu'ran and the Torah) where there is evidence of "God" and many of the other stuff.

Christian will lways quote the bible to support his existence of God.that same christian is however oblivious of the fact that thet bible was put together by emperor constantine with his tools been the biased bishops at the second nicene council in 371AD nd therefore had imprints of a man who decided what to include.its probable that some of the accounts were distorted or totally removed.

The only evidence of Jesus dying and resurecting is in the same bible.

I think i'd layoff the discrepancies at this point.i don't castigate people for not believing in God just as i dont lay claim to been on the "right path".i believe in the God of the bible and that takes a lot of faith based on what my research has shown and the evidences my walk with him has chalked up.

But that doesnt mean i am still not baffled by a lot of things that surround christianity.

As for the age of the world,its definitely not 6000years old.even the bible doesnt say that.a lot of "christians" miscontrue the accounts of genesis 1:1-2.

A good understanding of those verses reveals that there was a timeline between verses 1 and 2 the lenght of which is unknown

IbroSaunks:

harakiri,

you don't have to verbally say it before u mean it,  i know the thread was directed at you, but from the language u used from the very beginning, its obvious what your opinion about religious peeps is. All u have to do is imply.

No one is going to prove to you that God exists, ull keep questioning, theres a particular story i heard one day on radio. sadly i have forgotten it. when i remember ill post it. but in the end, it is only you that can find the answers, and if u feel cool being "answerless", then fine, stay that way! I guess thats the way "the force" wants it!

may the force be with u!

apocalypse:

@ sexkillz
since you say everything starts somewhere , where does your god start or begin , what is his origin and if you can't explain that then we can deduce his non existence

IbroSaunks:

im exhausted man, its okay, u can believe religious peeps don't know what they are doing and all, its ok, i pray God guides you though.

Also man, one thing, u said u have thought about things alot, spent 17 years, wow, thats a lot, but u haven't given us insight about your thought process, or the things that actually went through your mind.

Could u like, try to do that, maybe a summary!!

apocalypse:

@ martol
essentially what you are saying is since science can't come up with a definite explanation it doesn't mean it is wrong

sexkillz:

FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! I AM NOT REJECTING SCIENCE. NO? I AM SIMPLY REJECTING THE INTERPRETATION OF SCIENCE ON THIS THREAD BY ATHEISTS!!!

sexkillz:

Which of the following MAKES MORE SENSE?

a) Someone Built this WEBSITE called NAIRALAND!
b) The WEBSITE called NAIRALAND EVOLVED from other EXISTING WEBSITES!!!



Whether YOU FIGHT this or NOT! There is A VERY INTELLIGENT BEING behind the[b] ORIGIN of LIFE![/b] If you doubt it, pls NAME ONE ORDERLY PROCESS (like the CREATION OF NAIRALAND) that did not require some directing intelligence and I’ll kiss your ATHEISTIC ARSE!

kandiikane:

I want you to look a Intelligent design which is different to the evolutionary theory or hypothesis whatever you want to call it.

kandiikane:

I want you to look a Intelligent design which is different to the evolutionary theory or hypothesis whatever you want to call it.