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Re: Ibiyeomie Bans Couples From Having Sex During Fasting by Kobojunkie: 3:59am On Jan 10, 2023 |
staga:1. God said that you do not honor Him by torturing your body in any way — either by starving yourselves of food or sex — so who exactly are these rituals you partake in in honor of? According to God, your fasting is meant to show Honor to Him and the only kind of fasting that can do that is one that is according to that which He commands - Isaiah 58 and Zechariah 7. 5 Do you think I want to see people punish their bodies on those days of fasting? Do you think I want people to look sad and bow their heads like dead plants? Do you think I want people to wear mourning clothes and sit in ashes to show their sadness? That is what you do on your days of fasting. Do you think that is what the Lord wants?See, God said He will only answer you if you do what He commands, so why continue to engage in these meaningless rituals that these lying mogs and pastors spew at you? Who do you please by these foolish traditions? Certainly not God! 2. Christians or gullible Churchians? Because no right-thinking follower of Jesus Christ would engage in starvation-diets thinking it is for God's sake or that God would answer to such a ritual. |
Re: Ibiyeomie Bans Couples From Having Sex During Fasting by Kobojunkie: 4:04am On Jan 10, 2023 |
staga:1. Wrong! The major reason for that is instead that many of you confuse your pagan rituals for the worship of God. You don't even know how to honor God — you suffer majorly from a lack of knowledge of His teachings and commandments, as you continue to gorge yourselves on the doctrines and traditions of men, lies, which Jesus Christ warned you to steer clear off instead. God never asked any man to embark on starvation-diet rituals using His name. You raise the lies fed to you by men who you call pastors and mogs above the Truth of God, yet you think in your lies you are justified by God. How you all work that out in your minds, I don't know. |
Re: Ibiyeomie Bans Couples From Having Sex During Fasting by Kobojunkie: 4:06am On Jan 10, 2023 |
papagiddy:No he is not. What the pastor is suggesting is exactly that which is according to Ramadan kind of fast. https://metro.co.uk/2022/04/03/can-you-have-sex-during-ramadan-16396834/. What your pastor proclaims is not of scripture but of Islam— that and the starvation-diet rituals, all belong to Islam. |
Re: Ibiyeomie Bans Couples From Having Sex During Fasting by Kobojunkie: 4:08am On Jan 10, 2023 |
vivaAfrica:So, never mind the fact that God instead said He does not want you to torture your body in His name, you are saying that, against God, what your pastor and mog suggests is that by torturing your body the more, God will be more pleased? Don't you lot see that these men don't mean anything good for your souls? According to God, your fasting is meant to show Honor to Him and the only kind of fasting that can do that is one that is according to that which He commands - Isaiah 58 and Zechariah 7. 5 Do you think I want to see people punish their bodies on those days of fasting? Do you think I want people to look sad and bow their heads like dead plants? Do you think I want people to wear mourning clothes and sit in ashes to show their sadness? That is what you do on your days of fasting. Do you think that is what the Lord wants?See, God said He will only answer you if you do what He commands, so why continue to engage in these meaningless rituals that these lying mogs and pastors spew at you? Who do you please by these foolish traditions? Certainly not God! |
Re: Ibiyeomie Bans Couples From Having Sex During Fasting by Kobojunkie: 4:13am On Jan 10, 2023 |
basork:Bible didn't say that. Instead, Paul, a man, suggested it, and Paul is not the Law nor a Lawgiver, so follow his opinions at your own risk. The one who is Law and LawGiver in the Kingdom of God is Jesus Christ. He is God's New Covenant and Law, God's Truth in the Kingdom of God, and He made it abundantly clear that your marriages are of this world and not of the Kingdom of God - Luke 20 vs 34 - 36. |
Re: Ibiyeomie Bans Couples From Having Sex During Fasting by Kobojunkie: 4:13am On Jan 10, 2023 |
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Re: Ibiyeomie Bans Couples From Having Sex During Fasting by Kobojunkie: 4:19am On Jan 10, 2023 |
Sweetplum:By the way, the reason I don't bother talking against Mohammedans, Buddhists, Sango worshippers, Hinduists, Atheists, Witches/Wiccans, etc., has to do with Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ never spoke against the religions of those who He was not sent to call by the Father; nor did He send His followers out to use His name to condemn any religion out there in the world. The only religion He ever condemned was that which used the name of His father to sell what were lies, Judaism. And as such, the only religion that His followers can condemn by His teachings are all religions that set out to use the name of the Father, and Jesus Christ, in the selling of lies that are antiChrist. And the two religions happen to be Judaism and Christianity. Another reason why other religions don't matter has to do with teh fact that Jesus Christ only sent His followers to Teach the Gospel to the Lost sheep of Israel. So, why take away from others that which they cling to when you have nothing to give them in exchange? So, refusing to attack Islam is not cowardice but instead knowing not to waste one's time on meaningless things. |
Re: Ibiyeomie Bans Couples From Having Sex During Fasting by udomonday: 5:53am On Jan 10, 2023 |
I bet he is knacking his girlfriends |
Re: Ibiyeomie Bans Couples From Having Sex During Fasting by Siscooh: 5:54am On Jan 10, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Have you read the Bible on thus subject matter? |
Re: Ibiyeomie Bans Couples From Having Sex During Fasting by Kobojunkie: 5:54am On Jan 10, 2023 |
Siscooh:Sure! why do you ask? |
Re: Ibiyeomie Bans Couples From Having Sex During Fasting by Siscooh: 6:02am On Jan 10, 2023 |
lomprico:Read the Bible |
Re: Ibiyeomie Bans Couples From Having Sex During Fasting by Siscooh: 6:03am On Jan 10, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:You response says the contrary. We ought to abstain during fasting. Pastor shouldn't even remind us |
Re: Ibiyeomie Bans Couples From Having Sex During Fasting by Kobojunkie: 6:07am On Jan 10, 2023 |
Siscooh:Are you certain you have ever read scripture yourself cause your statements here actually reveal you have never in fact done that for yourself. God Himself explained that you cannot please Him by torturing your body — starving yourself of food and of sex— so there is nothing scriptural about your starvation-diet exercise nor your pastor there who even advises you to add a lie upon another lie. According to God, your fasting is meant to show Honor to Him and the only kind of fasting that can do that is one that is according to that which He commands - Isaiah 58 and Zechariah 7. 5 Do you think I want to see people punish their bodies on those days of fasting? Do you think I want people to look sad and bow their heads like dead plants? Do you think I want people to wear mourning clothes and sit in ashes to show their sadness? That is what you do on your days of fasting. Do you think that is what the Lord wants?See, God said He will only answer you if you do what He commands, so why continue to engage in these meaningless rituals that these lying mogs and pastors spew at you? Who do you please by these foolish traditions? Certainly not God! |
Re: Ibiyeomie Bans Couples From Having Sex During Fasting by Jossymekoos10: 6:07am On Jan 10, 2023 |
TimT: Good morning sir Your submission is understandable but it's a choice If husband and wife choose to abstain, then it's fine It's not for the pastor to impose it on them If you actually study the passage that pastor quoted, you will see that Paul said that he was not imposing it on anybody You must understand that people have different spiritual levels. In as much as you won't die because of sex deprivation, would you rather that the Christian that can't abstain from sex for such a long period should go and commit adultery or masturbation? Everything must be done in love to keep fellow Christians from committing sin Thank you sir |
Re: Ibiyeomie Bans Couples From Having Sex During Fasting by Kobojunkie: 6:14am On Jan 10, 2023 |
Jossymekoos10:1. Your starvation-diets have nothing to do with God or that which He commands, to begin with. So your Pastor suggesting you abstain from sex while you engage in these starvation rituals reveals his ignorance of God's truth. 2. Paul has nothing to do with any of what your Pastor has committed here out of ignorance of God's Truth. 3. That is bullsheet talk and you know it. God said that you do not honor Him by torturing your bodies — either by starving yourselves of food or by abstaining from sex —and no spiritual-level nonsense makes it ok to suggest that uou can do any of that to please God. 4. If what you do is not in accordance with that commanded by God Himself, you do it in vain, and worse, you sin against God by using His name in connection to such vain rituals. |
Re: Ibiyeomie Bans Couples From Having Sex During Fasting by Siscooh: 6:18am On Jan 10, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Been saved from over 10 years ago. I am not even just a religious church goer; sound born again. Bible says if they agree just to seek Him. 1Cor 7:5-&6 |
Re: Ibiyeomie Bans Couples From Having Sex During Fasting by Kobojunkie: 6:28am On Jan 10, 2023 |
Siscooh:1. Is this some way of insisting that God must have lied in both Isaiah 58 and Zechariah 7 regarding the kind of fasting He wants instead? 2. Did Paul, in 1 Corinthians 7 say they should engage in starvation-diet fasting to please God in the manner that your pastor and mog there commands his followers to? 1. Now I will discuss the things you wrote me about. You asked if it is better for a man not to have any sexual relations at all.As you rightly said, Paul's opinion he meant as a mere suggestion. Paul didn't imply that by abstaining from sex while they pray instead, the married honors God. However, the same cannot be said of your pastor's claim, can it? |
Re: Ibiyeomie Bans Couples From Having Sex During Fasting by Siscooh: 6:53am On Jan 10, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Everything I know the Lord taught me by the witness of the Holy Spirit in my heart. I don't follow any Mog foolishly neither should I continue to argue in a platform that rather needs evangelism than your efforts to prove me wrong. I don't attend his church and I don't live in Nigeria. Thank you. God bless you |
Re: Ibiyeomie Bans Couples From Having Sex During Fasting by Kobojunkie: 6:58am On Jan 10, 2023 |
Siscooh:1. Surely, the Lord can't teach you that which is contrary to His very own Word, can He? I mean no one who was in fact taught by God's very own Spirit of Truth would confuse the starvation-diet rituals of men with that which honors God, to begin with. So, how certain are you that the spirit you claim witnessed to you in your heart is of God? 2. The Gospel is God's Law and Truth in the Kingdom of God. How can you preach to others if you yourself aren't equipped with the Truth in the Kingdom of God? 3. You don't attend the man's church yet you stepped in to affirm his lie as scriptural truth when it isn't, why? |
Re: Ibiyeomie Bans Couples From Having Sex During Fasting by Siscooh: 7:01am On Jan 10, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: The word of God is Truth, it doesn't matter the church. Again I don't live in your country |
Re: Ibiyeomie Bans Couples From Having Sex During Fasting by Kobojunkie: 7:07am On Jan 10, 2023 |
Siscooh:Indeed the Word of God, Jesus Christ, is God's Truth and Law. And, it is by Him that all these pastors and mogs are exposed as nothing but liars — the thieves who come to steal from God's sheep, kill the fat of God's sheep and destroy God's flock using the name of God to perpetrate their lies - John 10 vs 1 - 16 & Ezekiel 34 vs 1 - 16. 1 Like |
Re: Ibiyeomie Bans Couples From Having Sex During Fasting by lomprico(m): 7:35am On Jan 10, 2023 |
Siscooh: Sex is not a sin! |
Re: Ibiyeomie Bans Couples From Having Sex During Fasting by kingreign(m): 7:45am On Jan 10, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: If you know nothing about a topic, it’s best you keep quiet rather than exhibit foolishness. In Matthew 17:20-21, Jesus asserted prescribed prayer and fasting as an antidote for some problems. So Jesus said to them, “Because of your [e]unbelief; for assuredly, I say to you, if you have faith as a mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move; and nothing will be impossible for you. However, this kind does not go out except by prayer and fasting.” Matthew 17:20-21 (NKJV) |
Re: Ibiyeomie Bans Couples From Having Sex During Fasting by kingreign(m): 7:47am On Jan 10, 2023 |
lomprico: It depends. Sex with someone who’s not your spouse is a sin, sex when unmarried is a sin, strange sexual practices such as same gender sex, bestiality, rape, etc are sins and are taboos. |
Re: Ibiyeomie Bans Couples From Having Sex During Fasting by Kobojunkie: 7:54am On Jan 10, 2023 |
kingreign:1. What Jesus Christ said isn't the problem here. Instead, your conclusion regarding what He said is. Nowhere in that passage did Jesus Christ suggest to you that the kind of fasting you should engage in is the starvation-diet ritual partake in. God said— through the very same prophets that announced the coming of Jesus Christ—, that your fasting is meant to show Honor to Him and the only kind of fasting that can do that is one that is according to His command and Law to you - Isaiah 58 and Zechariah 7. 5 Do you think I want to see people punish their bodies on those days of fasting? Do you think I want people to look sad and bow their heads like dead plants? Do you think I want people to wear mourning clothes and sit in ashes to show their sadness? That is what you do on your days of fasting. Do you think that is what the Lord wants?So, are you insinuating that because Jesus Christ mentioned fasting, Jesus Christ must have meant starvation-diet fasting which is against God— since God indicated that He abhors it—, and not the doing-of-good-works fasting that God commands? |
Re: Ibiyeomie Bans Couples From Having Sex During Fasting by lomprico(m): 8:03am On Jan 10, 2023 |
kingreign: We still saying same thing, sex is not a sin. The type of sex you choose to practice now depends if its a sin or not, just like you just mentioned some. |
Re: Ibiyeomie Bans Couples From Having Sex During Fasting by harmony75: 8:09am On Jan 10, 2023 |
Pastor God no send you this one o I believe your members are adults can think for themselves. |
Re: Ibiyeomie Bans Couples From Having Sex During Fasting by Pimine: 8:19am On Jan 10, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:This robot no dey quote me abeg. I nor follow for people wey dey engage you. I know who you are - voice of Jacob, hand of Esau. |
Re: Ibiyeomie Bans Couples From Having Sex During Fasting by Kobojunkie: 8:31am On Jan 10, 2023 |
Pimine:Stop allowing ordinary men play their con games with your mind and life this year. Open your mind and eyes to learn from God for your own self. |
Re: Ibiyeomie Bans Couples From Having Sex During Fasting by GreatrAnalyst: 8:41am On Jan 10, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Junkie, stop expecting replies from me based on junks you always narrate using Scriptures to pacify your blinded, twisted, self-willed, self-originated intention. I don't have replies for you. But mark my handle. Take your last attention. Go, teach babies. |
Re: Ibiyeomie Bans Couples From Having Sex During Fasting by Kobojunkie: 8:43am On Jan 10, 2023 |
GreatrAnalyst:1. According to God, your fasting ought to be to honor Him, and not for what you claim is your personal spiritual upliftment, and to seek Him, God says you are to do only that which He commands. These starvation-diet rituals which many call fasting aren't even commanded by God so, who instead commands you to do something else when fasting to please and seek Him - Isaiah 58 and Zechariah 7. See, God said He will only answer you if you do what He commands, so why continue to engage in these meaningless rituals that these lying mogs and pastors spew at you? Who do you please by these foolish traditions? Certainly not God! 2. Pay close attention to what God asks in verse 5 in the passage above. You don't please God when you torture your bodies in any way. 3. It is highly doubtful that a man who cannot stay away from sex even knows God let alone His Law, Jesus Christ. Self-discipline if essential when following God. |
Re: Ibiyeomie Bans Couples From Having Sex During Fasting by 2016v2017: 8:54am On Jan 10, 2023 |
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