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Re: Does The Soul Exist? by DeepSight(m): 10:46am On Feb 12, 2023 |
Workch: This is one of the worst definitions I have ever seen in my life. |
Re: Does The Soul Exist? by Workch: 10:49am On Feb 12, 2023 |
DeepSight:do you want to create another one that will suit your own opinion? Since you cannot provide evidence 2 Likes
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Re: Does The Soul Exist? by DeepSight(m): 10:55am On Feb 12, 2023 |
Workch: My friend, your definition is but a sub-set of what mind is (even by the Google snapshot you sourced). But more to the point, you need to understand that your definition should be contextual for this discussion: thus you should be speaking of what mind is at an existential level. By your simplistic definition a person who does not think (say an unconscious person, or a sleeping person) does not have a mind. And a person incapable of rationalization (say a re.tarded or otherwise mentally challenged person) also does not have a mind. Its not good enough to simply run to Google and vomit the first thing you see there into a nuanced and intricate discussion on a nuanced and difficult matter. This is why I said you are lazy, and this is why I said you are yet to pass Kindergarten questions. The first quality of mind in this sort of existential discussion is more deeply related to sentience. The second extends to personality. |
Re: Does The Soul Exist? by DeepSight(m): 10:58am On Feb 12, 2023 |
Workch - PS: In this sort of discussion there are also problems describing the mind as "an ability". . . . it is a thing of itself, and not a "capacity" anymore than an ability to walk is what you would describe your legs as. Your legs exist even if you become paralyzed. |
Re: Does The Soul Exist? by A001: 1:24pm On Feb 12, 2023 |
LordReed:I don't know that. But I know the souls of humans have frequencies that lie within a certain range with upper and lower limits sufficiently out of the scope of the human eye and perception. People operate at certain wavelengths, which can become manifest when two or more people agree on some issues. I know that the soul exists because I've had many travels in my astral or soul body (known as spirit) where the soul floated out of the body. That's a personal experience (lucid dreams involving flights) I've had countless number of times over the years, which occurred naturally without using any substance like psychedelic or entheogen. That's from my personal experience. Then based on my research which I engage in as a pedagogical effort to understand the soul, I know the soul exists as a wave because every matter has a wave aspect and a particle aspect via the wave-particle duality. In the case of living things, this wave aspect is called the soul. Well, you might not like that term anyway, but you can't deny the fact that every matter can behave as a wave sometimes and as a particle some other times. Unless you understand what consciousness is deeply, you shouldn't say with certainty that the soul doesn't exist. That the soul exists doesn't mean all the things said about it in various religious texts are true as many of them are based on superstition. To understand reality deeply, one needs to be able to see things in terms of waves, energy, and frequency. The atheist still needs to understand that there are still tons of mysteries in nature that scientists don't know yet before he makes certain claims with certainty. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Does The Soul Exist? by DeepSight(m): 4:04pm On Feb 12, 2023 |
A001: Brilliant again. 1 Like |
Re: Does The Soul Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 6:48pm On Feb 12, 2023 |
A001:Bullshit 3 Likes |
Re: Does The Soul Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 7:32pm On Feb 12, 2023 |
A001:How do you know all this 1 Like |
Re: Does The Soul Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 7:36pm On Feb 12, 2023 |
DeepSight:That is the summary of all: Your personal conviction, without a shred of evidence 3 Likes |
Re: Does The Soul Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 7:38pm On Feb 12, 2023 |
DeepSight:Atheism is just a tag. You can be many things |
Re: Does The Soul Exist? by Maynman: 7:40pm On Feb 12, 2023 |
DeepSight:An atheist is someone that doesn’t believe in a deity or deities. An atheist can be anything he wishes outside of that. You conjoining words together doesn’t make you smart. 1 Like |
Re: Does The Soul Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 7:40pm On Feb 12, 2023 |
DeepSight:So which god did it? 2 Likes |
Re: Does The Soul Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 7:41pm On Feb 12, 2023 |
DeepSight:Can you cut through this bullshit and present your evidence 2 Likes |
Re: Does The Soul Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 7:41pm On Feb 12, 2023 |
correctguy101:What is the mind? |
Re: Does The Soul Exist? by A001: 7:43pm On Feb 12, 2023 |
jaephoenix:I'm a Physics graduate. |
Re: Does The Soul Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 7:43pm On Feb 12, 2023 |
A001:I know soul exists because I fly out at will, watch people at night including you, then fly back to my bed in the morning 2 Likes |
Re: Does The Soul Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 7:45pm On Feb 12, 2023 |
A001:Oh wait, they teach soul travel in physics classes? Oh shit, I made a wrong career move 2 Likes |
Re: Does The Soul Exist? by Maynman: 7:47pm On Feb 12, 2023 |
A001: So? We also can’t see some microorganisms and we need microscope to see them, before microscope was created, I’m sure microorganisms was also a “mystery” to scientists then. 1 Like |
Re: Does The Soul Exist? by A001: 7:48pm On Feb 12, 2023 |
jaephoenix:Keep sounding ignorant and close-minded like the average religionist. Maybe you think the concepts of Physics such as wave-particle duality of matter is only there to be crammed and poured to pass exams. Enlightened people know the paradox is a key principle underlying reality. I don't have time for silly arguments on Nairaland and may not dignify you with a response again. |
Re: Does The Soul Exist? by A001: 7:50pm On Feb 12, 2023 |
jaephoenix:You must be foolish not to see the wave-particle paradox explained in my posts. Anyway, you're ignorant of how science works. Your silly posts only show how low the quality of education of Nigeria's education system has sunk |
Re: Does The Soul Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 7:53pm On Feb 12, 2023 |
A001:Why is it that when you're pestered for explanations and evidences for your vague posts, you resort to insults? This is about the third time you do this. If you reply that you don't have any evidence, that its a gut feeling, nobody would kill you. Sies! 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Does The Soul Exist? by Maynman: 7:54pm On Feb 12, 2023 |
A001: No dey bobo us. 1 Like
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Re: Does The Soul Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 7:56pm On Feb 12, 2023 |
A001:Bro, I know how all those work, maybe not as much as you do, since you claim youre a physicist, and I'm only a physician. The topic that brought us here is soul. And we're in the 3rd or 4th page of this thread, yet not you nor the OP, the proponent has thrown a shred of evidence or data our way. You're now called to provide evidence, and you get into your high horse and start throwing insults around. Really? 3 Likes |
Re: Does The Soul Exist? by A001: 8:00pm On Feb 12, 2023 |
Maynman:Another foolish post. Attached is a standard definition of the wave-particle paradox. You've started quoting me all about like person we dey swear for.
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Re: Does The Soul Exist? by Maynman: 8:01pm On Feb 12, 2023 |
A001:Another foolish reply. Go to quora and make a thread and be making this dumb assertions, you’ll be taught!
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Re: Does The Soul Exist? by A001: 8:02pm On Feb 12, 2023 |
jaephoenix:Tell me why I should waste my time in this discussion with you when I already gave the scientific concept underlying my submissions. As I said earlier, I don't have time to waste in silly arguments. |
Re: Does The Soul Exist? by KnownUnknown: 8:03pm On Feb 12, 2023 |
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mysticism Quantum mysticism, sometimes referred pejoratively to as quantum quackery or quantum woo,is a set of metaphysical beliefs and associated practices that seek to relate consciousness, intelligence, spirituality, or mystical worldviews to the ideas of quantum mechanics and its interpretations. Quantum mysticism is criticized by non-believers with expert knowledge of quantum mechanics to be pseudoscience or quackery. 2 Likes |
Re: Does The Soul Exist? by KnownUnknown: 8:05pm On Feb 12, 2023 |
Re: Does The Soul Exist? by A001: 8:05pm On Feb 12, 2023 |
Maynman:You learn science on Quora and YouTube, and I do from professors and the best of textbooks with practical knowledge on the field. We're not the same. You obviously don't understand the photos you're sharing. You can post another 1000-word epistle. Let me know when it disproves the simple definition I gave above. |
Re: Does The Soul Exist? by Maynman: 8:06pm On Feb 12, 2023 |
A001: You are saying jargons. If you understand what you’re taught you won’t be showing your illiteracy here. Go on quora, make a thread, post the link here and see how you’ll be disgraced. 2 Likes
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Re: Does The Soul Exist? by A001: 8:08pm On Feb 12, 2023 |
Foolish people. The scientific understanding of consciousness is still very low. That's why even the most brilliant scientists don't make claims about the subject with certainty. Yet, some nonentities here that only learn science on Quora and YouTube think they understand consciousness deeply. Arrogance in ignorance. |
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