MaxInDHouse:

It's just a dogma!

Emusan:


Thomas: "My Lord and My God"

Matthew 8:21 And another of his disciples said unto him, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father.

Matthew 12:8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.

Matthew 14:28 And Peter answered him and said, Lord, if it be thou, bid me come unto thee on the water.

Matthew 22:43 He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying,

John 13:13 Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for so I am.

Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

1 Corinthians 1:9 God is faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord.

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Luke 2:11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.

1 Timothy 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the commandment of God our Saviour, and Lord Jesus Christ, which is our hope

1 Timothy 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

Titus 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

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Every true disciples of Jesus Christ are always proud to call Jesus their Lord and Saviour but JWs is afraid and called it dogma

Anyways, I know you're not bold enough to answer that question straight forward.

MaxInDHouse:


I hope you take your own advice!

FreedomfromtheT:
I opened this thread and it's about why people hate Deeper Life Bible Church.
I am minding my business here.
May all sinners including you and other deluded Jehovah's Witnesses come to the knowledge of the saving truth before you breathe your last in Jesus' name, Amen.

Romans 5:12 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, in this way death spread to all people, because all sinned"

Death spread to Deeper Life Churchians because they have ALL SINNED"

Oga, Carry your DELUSION outta here.

FreedomfromtheT:
No it is not a dogma.
Jesus is MY Lord and personal Saviour.

Emusan:


Thomas: "My Lord and My God"

Matthew 8:21 And another of his disciples said unto him, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father.

Matthew 12:8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.

Matthew 14:28 And Peter answered him and said, Lord, if it be thou, bid me come unto thee on the water.

Matthew 22:43 He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying,

John 13:13 Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for so I am.

Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

1 Corinthians 1:9 God is faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord.

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Luke 2:11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.

1 Timothy 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the commandment of God our Saviour, and Lord Jesus Christ, which is our hope

1 Timothy 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

Titus 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

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Every true disciples of Jesus Christ are always proud to call Jesus their Lord and Saviour but JWs is afraid and called it dogma

Anyways, I know you're not bold enough to answer that question straight forward.

FreedomfromtheT:
A lot of people including Christians from other denominations do not seem to like Deeper Life members.
They hardly speak good about them.
Why do you think people dislike Deeper Life members so much?

FreedomfromtheT:
Are you done with your 'Jehovah's Witnesses are the real Christians' propaganda?
A thread was opened about why people hate Deeper Life members.
It has nothing to do with Jehovah's Witnesses or any other religious sect.
You cunningly decided to change the narrative to how Jehovah's Witnesses are the real Christians.
Now that you are faced with the truth about how fake your Jehovah's Witnesses are, you are trying to run away.
Learn to mind your business.
May God have mercy on your soul and the souls of all who have been held captive by indoctrination of Jehovah's Witnesses, their deceptive and false interpretation of the Bible and their religious propaganda.

Janosky:

Matthew 7:21-23, Jesus Christ is NEVER lord to 3 deities worshippers,efulefu workers of iniquity.

Janosky:


Worker of iniquity calling "lord ,lord" upandan.

Janosky:


Romans 5:12 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, in this way death spread to all people, because all sinned"

Death spread to Deeper Life Churchians because they have ALL SINNED"

Oga, Carry your DELUSION outta here.

Janosky:


Matthew 27:46 & Hebrews 5:7.

Hebrews 5:7 "While Jesus was here on earth, he offered prayers and pleadings, with a loud cry and tears, to the one who could SAVE him from death. And God heard his prayers because of his deep reverence for God"


Oga,who is the Saviour of your lord?

Janosky:


Matthew 7:21-23, Jesus Christ is NEVER lord to 3 deities worshippers,efulefu workers of iniquity.

DyshApp:


It's because their beliefs does not tally with what other are preaching

FreedomfromtheT:
Jesus Christ saved me from sin. I know the date, time, place and circumstance that led to my salvation.
By the grace of God, I am not just an indocrinated religious sinner parroting the versions of the Scriptures I was taught in the 'Kingdom Hall' and holding on to the dogma of my religious sect.
I pledged to obey, follow and serve Jesus Christ Who graciously saved and changed my life all through my life on earth.
Jesus Christ is thus my Saviour and Lord.
I don't know about you?

Continue DECEIVING YOURSELF.
Romans 5:12 says you are a sinner. No deeper lifer lives forever.

Oga, come & type more GIBBERISH.

hillaryj:
Briefly:
My dad is a muslim, (shuwa arab)
My mom is a christain.(Okrika:ijaw)
my dad met my mum in ph in the late 80s. He married my mum and the union gave birth to 4 kids. My dad started attending deper life around 2002. It was amazing seeing my dad as a christain.
our family was one of the pillars of the church in all ramifications.
all of a sudden, my dad was invited by pastors of that region. My dad was ask to divorce my mum and get back to his first wife.(my dad gave birth to 4boys in borno to a muslim woman and she is married to another muslim. He was ask to take custody of us and make peace to his first wife or remain single.
madnes, my dad don comot 4 deper lif wit all of us. He is back to his root(muslim)...i hate the members wit passion not the church....is't right or wrong by the pastors.

FreedomfromtheT:
Hmmmmmmmm!
Can you please throw more light on this?

DyshApp:


Well you can come and join our live session tomorrow June 15th by 8pm where our speaker from the Uk can answer your question in more depth (use the link in the bio to join)

Janosky:


Continue DECEIVING YOURSELF.
Romans 5:12 says you are a sinner. No deeper lifer lives forever.

Oga, come & type more GIBBERISH.

FreedomfromtheT:
Mr incorrigible, blinded religious sinner wanting to teach others, please compare Romans 5:12 that you quoted "Wherefore as by one man (Adam) sin entered into the world and death by sin and so death passed upon all men for all have sinned" with Romans 5:17 "For if by one man's offence death reigned by one, much more they (including myself) who receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by One, Jesus Christ".
Christ Jesus, came with a mission to correct what Adam spoilt and He successfully accomplished that (1st John 3:.
I was a sinner no doubt just like everyone else born into this world (apart from Christ), but I have been set free and received grace to live a righteous life which is the reason Christ the Redeemer came to this world.
You can choose to believe that it is possible for Christ to set you free from sin as I did (Mathew 1:21; John 8:32,36; Romans 6:1,12,18,22) and be saved or remain a hardened religious sinner, continue in religious delusion and end in hellfire. (Luke 12:4,5).
The choice is yours.

MaxInDHouse:


So if it's through one man (Adam) all mankind became sinners and through one man (Jesus) all will be made clean, what makes you feel that others don't have access to forgiveness?

For just as through the disobedience of the one man many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one person many will be made righteous! Romans 5:19

FreedomfromtheT:
There is nowhere I stated or implied that others don't have access to same forgiveness I graciously received.

FreedomfromtheT:

You and your fellow Jehovah's witness claim that everyone must remain sinners while claiming at the same time to be Christians.
I say NO.

MaxInDHouse:

So all believers have access to God's underserved kindness.

NO you misunderstood us.
What we're saying is that all humans are sinners that's why we are dying! Romans 5:12

FreedomfromtheT:
In the context of our discussion, you are both wrong.
We are not discussing all humans in general.
We started with the reasons why some people hate Deeper Life members.
Then we came to whether a Christian can be free from sin or not.
The Jehovah's Witnesses as represented by the two of you claimed that all including the Christian is a sinner since everyone will still die.
The born again preaching Churches including the Deeper Christian Life Ministry which I represent here disagree with you based on Scriptures and logic.
Christ was born to save (those who will eventually become) His people from their sins Mathew 1:21.
He that committed sin is of the devil (1st John 3:.
Without holiness (freedom from sin and practically life of purity), no person will see the Lord (Hebrews 12:14).
So if everyone remains a sinner even after Christ's death, then His sacrifice would have been in vain (God forbid).
If everyone is a sinner including Christians, then all, including Christians, belong to the devil (what an absurdity)!
If all are sinners, then noone will see God eventually.
So it is clear that you Jehovah's Witnesses are so wrong.
The unfortunate thing is that in your conceit, you claim you are the only Christians (yet sinners) and that you alone know the truth (that cannot set you free) and many people follow you!
This regrettably, fulfills the Scriptures in Mathew 23:15.
The glad tiding is that it is not too late for you and your misled proselytes as long as you are yet breathing.

ubani1981:
Too much rules and regulations (doctrine) that makes one feel as if heaven is impossible and unattainable

MaxInDHouse:


We are not sinning just as God's word warned believers but then it's inherited son that's the cause of death.
The blessings that's of Christ's death will be applied only after God's kingdom comes until then believers have just an edge which is the knowledge that will keep them away from continuing in sin!

FreedomfromtheT:
The topic is not about inherited sin. That applies to all humans.
The point is whether a Christian can be truly set free from sin in the present time (Titus 2:11-14).
The new Heaven and new earth or Paradise is a prepared place for prepared people (Revelations 21:4).
The preparation starts from a sinner acknowledging his sinfulness, repenting and surrendering to the Lordship of Christ the only Saviour and then living a sin free life by the grace of God till the end.
If God can do it for a person for a day, He can do it for two, three, four days, one week, one month, one year and for a lifetime because with Him nothing is impossible (Luke 1:37).
I am happy you now agree with me.
You are thus welcome.

MaxInDHouse:


The highlighted is what you missed!

There is no end in the life of a sinless person!

It's still sin that's causing death! Romans 6:23

FreedomfromtheT:
There you go again implying that Jesus Christ cannot save one from sin because you are yet to be saved. If Jesus' death is in vain in your life, thank God it is not in vain in my own life.
For your information, death has already been pronounced by God on man due to Adam's transgression and because we are his offprings(Genesis 3:17-19).
The same God who knows that man will eventually die as He proclaimed planned the redemption of sinful man from ALL INIQUITY here on earth (Genesis 3:15; Titus 2:11-14).
Those who deny the power of God and want to remain in sin can continue. That is their choice and the consequence is theirs as well.
But as many as believe that Christ can save and desire to be set free from all iniquity so as not to be damned, God will do it in your life as He has done for others in Jesus' name, Amen.