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Re: Can An Election Not Uploaded After 5 Months Be Credible? - Phrank Shaibu by JAMO84: 4:05pm On Jul 03, 2023
pacespot:


I pray that some of the violent acts, voters suppression and intimidation we witnessed during the elections will visit your family soon, I want to hear you say Amen to that 'prayer'?
Your entire lineage will be wiped out before the end of this year, starting from you. You will die a miserable death, no one will recognize your cops. All the bad things in this world will start happening to you. You will lose your job, you will be in an accident, armed robbers will visit your home and business, ipob terrorists will sever your head....
Re: Can An Election Not Uploaded After 5 Months Be Credible? - Phrank Shaibu by JAMO84: 4:07pm On Jul 03, 2023
Alfredah01:
Then why spending such hug amount on BVAS or passing the Bill for electronic voting?
Because it favors u that’s why u are not seeing the other side of digital election. If there’s no irregularities why did they pass electoral bill?

You don't know the difference between bvas and irev? Most of you don't read.
Re: Can An Election Not Uploaded After 5 Months Be Credible? - Phrank Shaibu by Gunayo(m): 4:29pm On Jul 03, 2023
garfield1:


Oga,hard copies are the most important,the court made this clear in osun.the electoral act was amended for bvas not irev.irev is not in the law
Even when the hard copies have been tampered with.
Re: Can An Election Not Uploaded After 5 Months Be Credible? - Phrank Shaibu by ebenholer2(m): 4:34pm On Jul 03, 2023
Shaibu is talking like one of the daft cos I am yet to know why so much belief in uploading of a thing cos on what basis can uploading of result guaranteed the credibility of such result...it is just absurd that this people fail to know that technology is a little strange to Nigeria electioneering process being the first that such technology is to be used to conduct election in the nation.
Re: Can An Election Not Uploaded After 5 Months Be Credible? - Phrank Shaibu by MISTAICEY02288(m): 4:34pm On Jul 03, 2023
JAMO84:
Iyalaya e ni Omale

Iponripongba babanlaku baba ati iya e ti ya werey. Osinwin generation. Eléríibú Ọmọ

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Re: Can An Election Not Uploaded After 5 Months Be Credible? - Phrank Shaibu by ebenholer2(m): 4:42pm On Jul 03, 2023
pleasureosondu:
At the bolded is true if the hardcopy of inec contains untampered information. But inec has a lot of tampered figures at the LG collation level but many polling unit results were untouched cos its nearly impossible to rig at that level due to the fact that the everyone who voted waited and counted the results. Thats the usefulness of irev, as backed by law and the basis of LP's petition. If inec wants to defend APC's win, all it needs to do is to count the results from the polling units on irev as a lot of it is the original scores. If does this, Obi wins outrightly. Inec simply needs to provide the original hardcopies so that we can compare with irev but inec tampered with them at the LG collation centers

Note the results(original) on irev places APC in 3rd position. Feel free to count yourself.
All these still remain a baseless allegation cos it cannot be proven that they actually tampered with the result.
The worst that can happen to this petition is to have a rerun of the election but sorry OBIDIENTS and Atikulates, you have made Tinubu to be popular the more and if any election is to be re-conducted tomorrow TINUBU will be having double of votes he had in February election and that is the reality. I can honestly tell u folks that all these tribunal activities are nothing but efforts infutility.
Re: Can An Election Not Uploaded After 5 Months Be Credible? - Phrank Shaibu by garfield1: 4:48pm On Jul 03, 2023
Gunayo:
Even when the hard copies have been tampered with.

Is it the irev that wasn't tampered with? You must prove the tampering
Re: Can An Election Not Uploaded After 5 Months Be Credible? - Phrank Shaibu by Johans2023: 4:48pm On Jul 03, 2023
Essenza01:


Why dont the INEC upload the copy of the result used in declaring... or does INEC not have a copy too?

If you have nothing tangible to say... please sit it out rather than sound ignorant.
he sounds stupid not ignorant
Re: Can An Election Not Uploaded After 5 Months Be Credible? - Phrank Shaibu by Johans2023: 4:54pm On Jul 03, 2023
JAMO84:
So if waec cannot upload your results due to technical issues, but they gave you a hard copy, you will not accept it because you need to view what you have in your hand on a computer screen?
are you normal? What stop WAEC ( INEC) from bringing the original? Why am I even talking to your types? Politics is not for you, just make sure you passed your next year WAEC first.
Re: Can An Election Not Uploaded After 5 Months Be Credible? - Phrank Shaibu by Johans2023: 4:57pm On Jul 03, 2023
sunray:
Is there anything special about inec irev portal? Festus okoye had explain why all polling units results will not be there. Phrank should stop playing pranks.
so spending 350 billion naira is for nothing? Tinubu is supposed to be castrated while Mahmoud Yakubu should be buried alive.
Re: Can An Election Not Uploaded After 5 Months Be Credible? - Phrank Shaibu by siaco(m): 5:10pm On Jul 03, 2023
JAMO84:
Your father is deranged

I know you don't have a father
Re: Can An Election Not Uploaded After 5 Months Be Credible? - Phrank Shaibu by Karlosorji(m): 5:17pm On Jul 03, 2023
JAMO84:
So if waec cannot upload your results due to technical issues, but they gave you a hard copy, you will not accept it because you need to view what you have in your hand on a computer screen?
how can you compare waec to Nigerian election? Shows you are dull. After releasing 300 Billion? If waec get that kind of money you think they'll give any excuse?
Re: Can An Election Not Uploaded After 5 Months Be Credible? - Phrank Shaibu by Mccullum: 5:32pm On Jul 03, 2023
Tntsi:
To defend tinubu or INEC on the presidential election you must need to destroy your conscience.
I don't envy chief Olanipekun's job at all.
No matter how bright , experienced and erudite you are,
Tinubu matter will make you lose balance.
Tinubu matter will make you sound stupid.
Tinubu matter will make you kill your conscience.
Tinubu matter will make you offend God. It will turn a christian lawyer to an athetist


It's you making yourself stupid, enjoy your LIKES from your types as you're playing to the gallery.. Nonsensical.
Re: Can An Election Not Uploaded After 5 Months Be Credible? - Phrank Shaibu by ebenholer2(m): 5:37pm On Jul 03, 2023
Most of the allegations against the presidential election seem to bebaseless allegation cos it cannot be proven that inec actually tampered with the election result.
The worst that can happen to this petition is to have a rerun of the election but sorry OBIDIENTS and Atikulates, you have made Tinubu to be popular the more and if any election is to be re-conducted tomorrow TINUBU will be having double of votes he had in February election and that is the reality. I can honestly tell u folks that all these tribunal activities are nothing but efforts infutility.
Re: Can An Election Not Uploaded After 5 Months Be Credible? - Phrank Shaibu by ladididanlami(f): 5:40pm On Jul 03, 2023
INEC is a true definition of “It Is Finished”…
Re: Can An Election Not Uploaded After 5 Months Be Credible? - Phrank Shaibu by Femeto: 5:41pm On Jul 03, 2023
Alake is a big big lair. He is only continuing from from where Lai Mohammed stopped.
Re: Can An Election Not Uploaded After 5 Months Be Credible? - Phrank Shaibu by gawu1: 6:05pm On Jul 03, 2023
What a very stupid question! That it was even asked by a duty governor made it most stupid question of the century. We all know that in elections which brought him into power twice as duty governor, there was nothing like uploading results into inec portal. Does that mean the elections were compromised?
Since we started democracy our results counting and collations have been manual until the last one which our constitution accepted that after manual collations, the certified results sheets could be uploaded into inec results viewing portal. Besides, the results were publicly announced after counting and collations at each pooling unit and collation center. The announcement didn't take place after uploading. Therefore, in what way does the failure to upload the certified manual results into inec results viewing portal which might have been due to some technical glitch invalidate the election?
The new innovation suggested by the amended electoral acts is to give interested public opportunity to view certified results as the act did not stipulate that the results must be uploaded to make them credible or valid.
If we believe that the election was compromised because the certified results sheets were not uploaded, then one may concludes that the previous election since 1999 were also compromised for the results were not uploaded too even though there was nothing like inec results viewing portal then.
Re: Can An Election Not Uploaded After 5 Months Be Credible? - Phrank Shaibu by Stevyne: 6:17pm On Jul 03, 2023
JAMO84:
You're mad. Did I invite you to read my post?
A mad man call another person MAD!!!!
The joke is on you 🤡
Re: Can An Election Not Uploaded After 5 Months Be Credible? - Phrank Shaibu by obama99: 6:23pm On Jul 03, 2023
I don't think Mr alake understands the gravity of when things go out of hand due to utterances at all.
Re: Can An Election Not Uploaded After 5 Months Be Credible? - Phrank Shaibu by JAMO84: 6:32pm On Jul 03, 2023
Karlosorji:
how can you compare waec to Nigerian election? Shows you are dull. After releasing 300 Billion? If waec get that kind of money you think they'll give any excuse?
And the 300 billion is for your irev alone? If irev is the Almighty results compiling platform, why then must inec move result forms from polling units to wards to states and to Abuja? Everyone can just gather in Abuja and wait for irev now. You all are too shallow because you don't read, and you're not ready to learn because you're too daft.
Re: Can An Election Not Uploaded After 5 Months Be Credible? - Phrank Shaibu by JAMO84: 6:33pm On Jul 03, 2023
MISTAICEY02288:


Iponripongba babanlaku baba ati iya e ti ya werey. Osinwin generation. Eléríibú Ọmọ
Onikure omo elede
Re: Can An Election Not Uploaded After 5 Months Be Credible? - Phrank Shaibu by MISTAICEY02288(m): 6:54pm On Jul 03, 2023
JAMO84:
Onikure omo elede

Oonisunre omo Inaki
Re: Can An Election Not Uploaded After 5 Months Be Credible? - Phrank Shaibu by jamesharryson(m): 6:59pm On Jul 03, 2023
JAMO84:
So Mr lvnatic, what is the discrepancy between the eventually uploaded results and the hard copies that prove your Obi won the election? Give us the numbers
Can you keep your u cultured mouth shut and allow the court to sort it out
Re: Can An Election Not Uploaded After 5 Months Be Credible? - Phrank Shaibu by pleasureosondu(m): 7:03pm On Jul 03, 2023
garfield1:


You lie sir,your another apc hater.apc won based on physical results and irev.obidients recounted irev and tinubu won.the only difference is that obi won benue and rivwrs
At the bolded can only be true if you back your statements with facts. Inec said tinubu won, other parties say no problem but produce the results (hardcopies) used in declaring tinubu since we already had the softcopies via irev. If inec is clean, then issue the original hardcopy which will be compared to what is on irev. Simple. I hold you're following the tribunal cases.

The issue(s) isn't whether obi won Benue and Rivers state but by what margin did he win? A PDP official for Lagos on Arise TV specifically mentioned that LP had nearly 900k votes in Lagos, based on their collation center results but inec official result for LP was a lil over 500k. What happened to the balance 400k votes? And it happened all over the country. This is why LP is in court, specifically to reclaim those votes cos if he does, both APC and PDP votes will be reduced, thus no need for a re- run as he already has FCT.

Note
Inec, not tinubu, needs to do more to justify why tinubu was declared president. That's the basis of LP's case

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Re: Can An Election Not Uploaded After 5 Months Be Credible? - Phrank Shaibu by pleasureosondu(m): 7:12pm On Jul 03, 2023
ebenholer2:

[b]All these still remain a baseless allegation cos it cannot be proven that they actually tampered with the result.
The worst that can happen to this petition is to have a rerun of the election but sorry OBIDIENTS and Atikulates, you have made Tinubu to be popular the more and if any election is to be re-conducted tomorrow TINUBU will be having double of votes he had in February election and that is the reality. I can honestly tell u folks that all these tribunal activities are nothing but efforts infutility.[/b]
grin And you think Obi(a businessman) will go to court, like invest his time and resources if he had no evidence? You really don't know that nigga. Are you following the tribunal case at all?

If you look at LP'S strategy, it's simple. They want inec to produce the original hardcopies used in declaring tinubu president because if you calculate the results on irev, Obi won outright(do your calculation), no re-run since he has FCT. But since inec said tinubu won, then issue the original result hardcopies used in declaring tinubu president. At least, there's no technicalities with hardcopy except you tamper with it.
Re: Can An Election Not Uploaded After 5 Months Be Credible? - Phrank Shaibu by broadman20: 8:19pm On Jul 03, 2023
JAMO84:
Get away from my mention jor, ipob terrorist


Shut up there Oduduwa nation terrorist,

Apart from supporting a drug Criminal what else can you do better?

Look at the rubbish you are posting on public platform, you don't even know how to defend your Criminal.

Block head.....
Re: Can An Election Not Uploaded After 5 Months Be Credible? - Phrank Shaibu by garfield1: 8:25pm On Jul 03, 2023
pleasureosondu:
At the bolded can only be true if you back your statements with facts. Inec said tinubu won, other parties say no problem but produce the results (hardcopies) used in declaring tinubu since we already had the softcopies via irev. If inec is clean, then issue the original hardcopy which will be compared to what is on irev. Simple. I hold you're following the tribunal cases.

The issue(s) isn't whether obi won Benue and Rivers state but by what margin did he win? A PDP official for Lagos on Arise TV specifically mentioned that LP had nearly 900k votes in Lagos, based on their collation center results but inec official result for LP was a lil over 500k. What happened to the balance 400k votes? And it happened all over the country. This is why LP is in court, specifically to reclaim those votes cos if he does, both APC and PDP votes will be reduced, thus no need for a re- run as he already has FCT.

Note
Inec, not tinubu, needs to do more to justify why tinubu was declared president. That's the basis of LP's case

Inec does not need to do anything.by virtue of osun Judgment,irev copy is secondary.obi should compare irev results to his agents copies just like uzodinma did.ive told you that both irev and hardcopies show tinubu winning.prof ofoedu tabulated irev and obi still lost.no changes in lagos.obi won benue and rivwrs by 200k which changes nothing.obi has not brought any proof to show he won Lagos by 900k.all he is saying now is that there were irregularities,inec didn't follow guidelines.election should be cancelled,he isn't asking to be declared winner.it seems you are not following the court case
Re: Can An Election Not Uploaded After 5 Months Be Credible? - Phrank Shaibu by garfield1: 8:32pm On Jul 03, 2023
pleasureosondu:
grin And you think Obi(a businessman) will go to court, like invest his time and resources if he had no evidence? You really don't know that nigga. Are you following the tribunal case at all?

If you look at LP'S strategy, it's simple. They want inec to produce the original hardcopies used in declaring tinubu president because if you calculate the results on irev, Obi won outright(do your calculation), no re-run since he has FCT. But since inec said tinubu won, then issue the original result hardcopies used in declaring tinubu president. At least, there's no technicalities with hardcopy except you tamper with it.


Oga,stop embarrassing yourself.obi did not win on irev.his fans calculated and he got 6 mil,tinubu got 8 mil.prof ofoedu calculated and obi did not win.post the scores obi got from irev boy
Re: Can An Election Not Uploaded After 5 Months Be Credible? - Phrank Shaibu by pleasureosondu(m): 9:46pm On Jul 03, 2023
garfield1:


Oga,stop embarrassing yourself.obi did not win on irev.his fans calculated and he got 6 mil,tinubu got 8 mil.prof ofoedu calculated and obi did not win.post the scores obi got from irev boy
Yet, he's in court? Like I asked you earlier, do you really think Obi(a businessman)will invest time and resources in a project that will lead to losses? If he lost the election, he won't be in court.

Tinubu didn't even score 6m on irev. Do your calculations via irev. If he did, inec should bring the original hardcopies. Obi has submitted all results(certified by inec via both irev and EC8 result form) from nearly the 36states. Let inec do same since they have the original hardcopies. Simple.

Note
I've not insulted you, so I implore you to be civil
Re: Can An Election Not Uploaded After 5 Months Be Credible? - Phrank Shaibu by pleasureosondu(m): 9:59pm On Jul 03, 2023
garfield1:


Inec does not need to do anything.by virtue of osun Judgment,irev copy is secondary.obi should compare irev results to his agents copies just like uzodinma did.ive told you that both irev and hardcopies show tinubu winning.prof ofoedu tabulated irev and obi still lost.no changes in lagos.obi won benue and rivwrs by 200k which changes nothing.obi has not brought any proof to show he won Lagos by 900k.all he is saying now is that there were irregularities,inec didn't follow guidelines.election should be cancelled,he isn't asking to be declared winner.it seems you are not following the court case
Ask yourself, why will obi be in court despite he lost via irev? What does he stand to gain? Do you really think Obi, a businessman, will invest in a project(court cases) that will lead to losses? You really don't understand how the man thinks. You think he made poor decisions which made him a millionaire before the age of 30? Easy man.

The Osun judgement is different from this. Its similar to VP's double nomination which PDP lost but LP is still on this particular issues. This is where you'll understand "technicalities" in law if you're a good lawyer. It's these technicalities that LP is using. PDP wasn't smart enough to see it.

Like I stated earlier, rivers and Benue ain't the only states were rigging occurred against LP. If you follow the tribunal case, nearly every state in the federation is being contested, except certain northern States
Re: Can An Election Not Uploaded After 5 Months Be Credible? - Phrank Shaibu by garfield1: 10:02pm On Jul 03, 2023
pleasureosondu:
Yet, he's in court? Like I asked you earlier, do you really think Obi(a businessman)will invest time and resources in a project that will lead to losses? If he lost the election, he won't be in court.

Tinubu didn't even score 6m on irev. Do your calculations via irev. If he did, inec should bring the original hardcopies. Obi has submitted all results(certified by inec via both irev and EC8 result form) from nearly the 36states. Let inec do same since they have the original hardcopies. Simple.

Note
I've not insulted you, so I implore you to be civil

I will be civil if you stop being mischievous and serious.oga,almost all losers usually go to court.does it mean they won? Did obi not lose with atiku 4 yreas ago?
What tinubu scored on irev is irrelevant as far as he beat obi.it has been calculated severally and he beat obi.obi has failed to prove that he won.the only proof he has is via irev which shows 18000 blurred results.unfortunstely,court place premium on manual copy.
So far,all obi evidences says there's irregularities.he submitted manual copies but never tabulated,demonstrated or explained what is there.in law,that is dumping of documents..
By the way,how did obi win? He won the south,tinubu won the north.north has more voters.therefore tinubu won.obi never won it was impossible esp with him failing woefully in core north and sw
Re: Can An Election Not Uploaded After 5 Months Be Credible? - Phrank Shaibu by garfield1: 10:10pm On Jul 03, 2023
pleasureosondu:
Ask yourself, why will obi be in court despite he lost via irev? What does he stand to gain? Do you really think Obi, a businessman, will invest in a project(court cases) that will lead to losses? You really don't understand how the man thinks. You think he made poor decisions which made him a millionaire before the age of 30? Easy man.

The Osun judgement is different from this. Its similar to VP's double nomination which PDP lost but LP is still on this particular issues. This is where you'll understand "technicalities" in law if you're a good lawyer. It's these technicalities that LP is using. PDP wasn't smart enough to see it.

Like I stated earlier, rivers and Benue ain't the only states were rigging occurred against LP. If you follow the tribunal case, nearly every state in the federation is being contested, except certain northern States

Oga,the shettima case is dead.the supreme court clearly said shettima was never guilty.
Should I start mentioning businessmen that lost elections and went to court and still lost? Jimoh Ibrahim,ifeanyi ubah from 2011-2015,atiku,tonye cole.see,you have nothing to say.stop worshipping obi.
The osun Judgment is different but has influenced this election as it showed that online evidences or data from inec server are unreliable.
Apart from rivers and benue,obi has failed to show any other state he won.he called 13 witnesses,none of them said he was rigged or cheated or won.stop deceiving yourself

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