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Re: Can An Election Not Uploaded After 5 Months Be Credible? - Phrank Shaibu by pleasureosondu(m): 2:01pm On Jul 04, 2023
garfield1:


You,obi and atiku are the ones shooting yourself on the foot that is why you guys lost the election and will lose the case.popularity has nothing to do with positions you held but how much you are loved.you are talking about being renowned or known.popularity is being known for good things.whixh good thing did atiku do?
If tinubu rigged,he would have won yobe,won borno- with a bigger margin and win gombe,win katsina.if atiku is popular,he would have won heavily in the north. atiku is not popular because he is liberal not religious and the north love religious people,you yourself admitted to this.tinubu used religion to increase his chances.both atiku and tinubu are not popular but tinubu used party structure,heavy connections,Muslim ticket to destroy atiku..if atiku was rigged out,you will see heavy protest and unrest up north like it happened in 2011.oboy,they don't like atiku.atiku struggled to win his north east region.he won north east by 500k but tinubu won south west by 1.4 million.tinubu even beat the useless man in south east,south south.
Tinubu used abiola calculation of 1993 to win .he bracketed atiku up north and defeated him down south.atiku is not a Fulani,he is claiming to be.his lga and village is kilba,his parentss from cameroun but he claimed in court that his grandparents are from Hausa sokoto.he is a fraudulent man and the north hate such people.
At the bolded, so you mean tinubu(who married a pastor) is more religious than a Fulani Atiku? A born and bred northerner who is also a former VP in Atiku isn't popular in North? Maybe you'll say Kwankwaso is more popular than Atiku soon.

Don't talk about protest from the northerners for Atiku cos you clearly don't understand how they think. The only protest they engage in when Islam is involved, whether they hate or love you as a politician. And even if tinubu loses today at the tribunal, there won't be protest despite his MUMU ticket cos of how he's portrayed here.

You attack atiku with the same info nnamdi KANU gave you, yet you still attack the same KANU.

Tinubu's abiola calculation has led him to court. Not so brillant i guess. So, He better hope inec do a good job at the tribunal.
Re: Can An Election Not Uploaded After 5 Months Be Credible? - Phrank Shaibu by caesymore(m): 2:06pm On Jul 04, 2023
JAMO84:
PDP and LP should divest from politics and move to the skit making industry, I mean how do you explain this useless obsession with an ordinary results viewing Portal?

Hard copy of my WAEC certificate is with me, the examination body also have it on their portal, if the portal crashes and the result is no longer available there, does it mean the original hard copy I have is not relevant?


You have agents in the polling units, they were given a copy of the result, the police and the commission have there own copies, another copy was pasted on the polling units walls, none of you have been able to prove that what were later posted on the IREV were different from the copies you have except in few places. The election tribunal needs to ban those 2 miserable losers from contesting any election in this Country for 60 years.

Jonsing clown, No be jame use their original catch person wey hold result. your yeye dey smell.
Re: Can An Election Not Uploaded After 5 Months Be Credible? - Phrank Shaibu by pleasureosondu(m): 2:11pm On Jul 04, 2023
garfield1:


Based on what obi has tendered,he has failed to tender any evidence of rigging[b].he failed to call polling unit agents,voters to testify or collation agents.hw was busy bringing useless experts to analyse inec server which is third hand.
The only new thing obi is bringing in shettima case is the video where tinubu announced shettima which shows how foolish obi is.nomination takes place when a name is submitted not by announcement.
Obi is playing to the gallery.hw is a trader not a bizman.
if you follow the tribunal, you would have known that there's a schedule. So, find the schedule.

And you should know that it's not obi's job to tender evidence of rigging. Rather its when inec submits the original hardcopies, then its compare when irev info, then we can officially begin the claim of rigging or not. For now, inec hasn't done a good job at defending the irev results. Maybe they still need time
Re: Can An Election Not Uploaded After 5 Months Be Credible? - Phrank Shaibu by garfield1: 2:35pm On Jul 04, 2023
pleasureosondu:
At the bolded, so you mean tinubu(who married a pastor) is more religious than a Fulani Atiku? A born and bred northerner who is also a former VP in Atiku isn't popular in North? Maybe you'll say Kwankwaso is more popular than Atiku soon.

Don't talk about protest from the northerners for Atiku cos you clearly don't understand how they think. The only protest they engage in when Islam is involved, whether they hate or love you as a politician. And even if tinubu loses today at the tribunal, there won't be protest despite his MUMU ticket cos of how he's portrayed here.

You attack atiku with the same info nnamdi KANU gave you, yet you still attack the same KANU.

Tinubu's abiola calculation has led him to court. Not so brillant i guess. So, He better hope inec do a good job at the tribunal.

Oga,no matter how tinubu won,we will still be in court.not everyone is like gej,gej is better than the obi afterall.
The fact of the matter is that a southerner cannot rig a northerner in the north.if obj and gej cannot do it,tinubu cannot.kwankwaso actually appeals more to the talakawas than atiku.tje northerners don't just love any northerner,they follow those that are fanatics like buhari,El rufai,late shehu yaradua,ahmadu bello.they know it's the turn of the south so why vote atiku? They can manage a southern Muslim with a Muslim vice than a northern liberal with an Igbo vice.
All my info is not from mnk,I don't believe or take any rubbish he utters.it doesn't take rocket science to know atiku's history.

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Re: Can An Election Not Uploaded After 5 Months Be Credible? - Phrank Shaibu by garfield1: 3:02pm On Jul 04, 2023
pleasureosondu:
if you follow the tribunal, you would have known that there's a schedule. So, find the schedule.

And you should know that it's not obi's job to tender evidence of rigging. Rather its when inec submits the original hardcopies, then its compare when irev info, then we can officially begin the claim of rigging or not. For now, inec hasn't done a good job at defending the irev results. Maybe they still need time

You still do not understand law or you don't want to,this is the problem with obidients.i am trying to help you and you are being funny.in court,the burden of proof is on the petitioners not defendants.the law sees elections as being free and fair.it is left for obi to prove otherwise.he must do so substantially beyond reasonable doubt not in few places.it must affect the 2.8 mil margin.if he claims he won,he must recount the votes and show the court the actual figures he got like uzodinma did.uzodinma brought ,results showing he got 213000 votes.they compared it with police copies and it tallued.inec and pdp couldn't challenge it with their own evidence.obi has counted irev using prof ofoedu.the only difference was obi winning rivers and benue and 18000 blurred results.he failed to compare it with other copies as required.
In osun,apc brought server copies of bvas reports.pdp brought direct copies from bvas.supreme court trashed apc copies and said pdp shouldn't have bothered defending themselves that server copies is unreliable and third hand.that direct copies from bvas alongside register is required.therefore,server copies will be thrashed.obi should bring manual copies showing rigging and identify the figure and it must affect the margin.
When obi lose,you need to know that it was his fault not from the court.he has failed to bring compelling evidence

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Re: Can An Election Not Uploaded After 5 Months Be Credible? - Phrank Shaibu by Tzar(m): 5:18pm On Jul 04, 2023
So while learning from the mistakes of others, you ain’t permitted to make mistakes of your own?
You wey go school, hope you have made zero mistakes in life… as you be God na! Keep playing. Mr perfectionist.
drugBaronTINUBU:

U are the one that is playing o

In life, u are supposed to learn from the mistakes of others
US have try to be better than what they did since 23yrs back
We are supposed to learn from what they did right not what they did wrong.

Nawa oo
Which school u go?
Re: Can An Election Not Uploaded After 5 Months Be Credible? - Phrank Shaibu by pleasureosondu(m): 7:38pm On Jul 04, 2023
garfield1:


Oga,no matter how tinubu won,we will still be in court.not everyone is like gej,gej is better than the obi afterall.
The fact of the matter is that a southerner cannot rig a northerner in the north.if obj and gej cannot do it,tinubu cannot.[b]kwankwaso actually appeals more to the talakawas[b][/b]than atiku.tje northerners don't just love any northerner,they follow those that are fanatics like buhari,El rufai,late shehu yaradua,ahmadu bello.they know it's the turn of the south so why vote atiku? They can manage a southern Muslim with a Muslim vice than a northern liberal with an Igbo vice.
All my info is not from mnk,I don't believe or take any rubbish he utters.it doesn't take rocket science to know atiku's history.


1. Now, we're going back to my earlier statements. If tinubu won via inec following the electoral process( the right process), the EU'(plus several other reports) won't be against tinubu, talk more of LP and PDP going to court. It mattered/still matters how you win an election. Have you noticed that we have fewer tribunal cases for Senate and HOR, held same day as the presidential? It should give you a clue that something was wrong with the presidential elections.

2. You're adding unnecessary info. Talakawas/almajiri are everywhere in the north with no central authority. Its Islam under an imam that largely controls them. An alhaji with enough money can secure their votes via buying. The owe allegiance to no one but allah. That's why they remain poor and are largely underage voters which the bvas successfully reduced. So, your posit is out of point.

3. I repeat, OBJ, GEJ and yar adua became President without the NW and large parts of the NE. Obi doesn't need them if he takes a good chunk from NC. The North has the highest number of underage voters but the south has the highest number of legal voters. Note that parts of North central isn't the North
Re: Can An Election Not Uploaded After 5 Months Be Credible? - Phrank Shaibu by garfield1: 10:06pm On Jul 04, 2023
pleasureosondu:


1. Now, we're going back to my earlier statements. If tinubu won via inec following the electoral process( the right process), the EU'(plus several other reports) won't be against tinubu, talk more of LP and PDP going to court. It mattered/still matters how you win an election. Have you noticed that we have fewer tribunal cases for Senate and HOR, held same day as the presidential? It should give you a clue that something was wrong with the presidential elections.

2. You're adding unnecessary info. Talakawas/almajiri are everywhere in the north with no central authority. Its Islam under an imam that largely controls them. An alhaji with enough money can secure their votes via buying. The owe allegiance to no one but allah. That's why they remain poor and are largely underage voters which the bvas successfully reduced. So, your posit is out of point.

3. I repeat, OBJ, GEJ and yar adua became President without the NW and large parts of the NE. Obi doesn't need them if he takes a good chunk from NC. The North has the highest number of underage voters but the south has the highest number of legal voters. Note that parts of North central isn't the North

Oga,the foreign observers have always condemned all our elections so it is meaningless.tjey covered less than 100 units and didn't stay till the polls ended.they were mostly at the collating points.their reports are irrelevant as the electoral law didn't create a role for them.party agents and voters remain primary witnesses.if you want credible observers with coverage,go for yiaga that covers at least 10,000 polling units

Secondly,tinubu outspend atiku in terms of wooing talakawas and religious leaders...

Thirdly,obj won the entire south massively and the north central.he got 30% in ne nw.he defeated buhari in kaduna.obi lost massively in SW,won SS narrowly,lost north massively.there was no path for victory.his only chance was to win se SS massively,bracket SW with tinubu,win nw and get 20 in ne nw..obj contested in a 2 way election so his pathway was different,same as yaradua.obi was in a three or 4 way race therefore his pathway was harder.he should have studied the 1979 elections.undoetunately,tinubu studied it and discovered that the best way was through margins not just wins

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