Decarbonisation:


Fill that cup with your father's tears and forcefeed it to your mother.
Tw..at!

GeneralDae:

You all should gather to decide what the issue is. The person I responded to said the issue is that he did not attend at all but bought the certificate.

GeneralDae:



Read more on civil forfeiture in the U.S. The court paper would tell you the asset should be ceased because it is a product of drugs. However, the person does not have to be charged with a crime. The focus for the Government is to give reasons why they believe the property should be ceased.

In civil forfeiture, you are not guilty but your property is guilty. Crazy but that is how the American law is. You know it's a civil forfeiture when the property becomes the defendant and not the person e.g USA vs Fidelity Bank Account. In that instance, USA is the plaintiff and Fidelity Bank Account is the defendant. But USA vs Bola Tinubu, means Bola Tinubu was the one put under trial, and this was not the case.


This you have cited is based on Nigerian law which does not differentiate criminal or civil forfeiture. The court document presented by the labour party against Tinubu was a judgement given in America. So the judgement has already been passed and that judgement was based on American laws not Nigerian laws.

In Nigeria for instance, if Emiefele eventually forfeits assets to the Government, he would have had to be charged with a crime. Meaning he is under the sentence of a fine. In American civil forfeiture, you don't have to have been charged with a crime. There is no evidence from that court paper that Bola Tinubu was charged with a crime ie that he was involved in Narcotics but only that the property was a product of Narcotics.

For instance, your distant relative who you know lives abroad sends you some money while you work in Nigeria as a Mobil treasurer, and one day your account gets blocked. While trying to retrieve it you found out that American Govt blocked your account because it was related to a prior case where some of the money was believed to have been product of crime. Now they either charge you to court to determine if you were part of the crime or not. If they don't charge you but just focus on taking your money and it ends as a settlement, then it's just civil forfeiture and no court in the world can say you are under a sentence based on a crime you committed.


The passport was given by Guinean Government for 5 years and expired in 2020 (2015-2020). It's not something Tinubu voluntarily took.


Even you know 25% FCT is a dumb argument.


Everybody showed discrepancies across some states. Even Atiku presented discrepancies in Anambra against Labour party and even Tinubu showed he was short of 10200 votes in Kano. So there were some issues with the election across favouring one party against the other. However, you are claiming that the entire election was rigged in favour of Tinubu. That's what you have not successfully proven.


INEC's guidance note stipulated that the results be snapped and IREV be used. However, the Electoral act gives INEC the complete power to determine the mode of transmission. So for instance, if there is a glitch, election can still go on and INEC can decide to switch to manual transmission.

IfnobeGod20:

You're just particular about civil forfeiture but neglect the portion of the law that says, anyone that have incurred a fine is not competent to vie for an election in Nigeria. Even Tinubu never claimed the money never belong to him and that was why PDP and LP said, he should have appealed the the court ruling when such amount was taken from his account, if truly it was a legitimate money.
Meanwhile, let us even agree that the money was wired to his account without his knowledge but what did he do when he saw such huge amount wired to his account? Did he report to the necessary quarters that money was credited to his account? If he has done that that would have exonerated him but he kept the money in his account and never raised alarm, meaning he was complacent. Remember that there is no I don't know in law. Ignorance can lead you to jail if not careful.

My brother, you're just guess commenting. Tinubu never said he was a citizen of Guinea but claimed his citizenship expired as the Guinean passport expired. Read below from the link of the submission at the tribunal, with extract:
"President Bola Tinubu has informed the Presidential Election Petition Tribunal that his Guinean citizenship expired in 2020, the same year that his Guinean passport, which has been brought up by the opposition, also expired".
https://tribuneonlineng.com/my-guinean-citizenship-expired-in-2020-president-tinubu-tells-tribunal/.
Meanwhile, does citizenship expired. Passport can expire but citizenship doesn't expire, except it is revoked or you voluntarily denounced citizenship through proper procedure. You must follow the same procedure you followed to naturalize yourself to that country.
So stop manufacturing what wasn't in the equation to justify your backing of Tinubu. Tinubu made allegiance with Guinea but claiming it has expired. Point of note, citizenship doesn't expired, except you renounced it.

I won't dwell much of the 25% because it is more of interpretation of the law, which can be interpreted based on the motive you wish to achieve. And this is what we've seen in many of our court's judgements. Like someone that never participated in a primary but was made an aspirant by our court while in another judgement, someone that didn't participate in a primary was told that he cannot reap or benefit from what he didn't participate in.

I never said the election was rigged in favour of Tinubu but I only reacted to what you wrote that there was no evidence of election been rigged. The election was rigged in some states and it was crystal clear in the results posted by INEC into the REVs. Like in Rivers state and Benue, the results posted showed that LP won the two states clearly but the two state was declared to be won by APC. Also, there are some LGAS and areas that there were no election but results declared. So, whether for APC or PDP or LP all amounts to refractions.

My brother, so far the commission gave direct guidelines by which they would conduct the 2023 General Elections. The commission cannot at the middle of the election changed his guidelines. That is Tantamount to double standard. No serious get of that nature that rules are changed at the middle of the game. If it were in a country where rule of law is sacrosanct, heads would have rolled. A glitch that only affected one out of the three elements conducted same day same time and with the same body. Common sense!

Ofunaofu:



I am not accusing him, those who today work for him made those revelations

Majesty7:


What qualification did Obi submitted?

GeneralDae:

Now we'll be going in circles.

Again, in Nigeria when you are fined you have been judged guilty . According to section 134 (1) (d) you are under the sentence of a fine. Tinubu is not under any sentence of a fine. He wasn't even charged for a crime. The person who sent him some money while he was in Nigeria was a Nigerian politician Akande living in America whose two brothers were into drug trafficking. The man Akande who gifted Tinubu 8000 dollars in 1989 was a family friend to Tinubu's wife and was a rich man living in America.

So you saying Tinubu should have questioned where the wealth came from is disingenuous.

Tinubu was not fined rather he had the bulk of his money returned back to him when he filed complaint as the claimant because he discovered his account was blocked. The IRS (not the DEA) then told him he also has to pay tax from some of his savings he had in the U.S which he saved for a long time. Part of those savings belonged to his family and they all went to the court as claimants. So Tinubu tried to retrieve his money but rather than keep fighting the U.S Government he agreed like most people to lose some of his property. Because fighting the U.S Government to claim back all your funds would be stupid. It would take years and you end up expending more resources. Go and read up on civil forfeiture cases and how many innocent abandoned their cases and ended up losing more. Tinubu's lawyers advised him to just agree with the IRS and the court for the settlement.

Tinubu was given passport by the then Guinean president because Tinubu helped him in 2015 to win election. Passport expired in 2020. I still don't see how that equates to voluntary citizenship. This to me, is more or less like chasing shadows as with all things Atiku.

If the elections were rigged in some states why should Tinubu suffer for it when it did not favour him alone? To what extent was it rigged to demand the election be cancelled?

The commission gave guideline and they were all followed. For the presidential portal, the system was probably being bombarded more and INEC had to shut it down for a while. This is why they said there were technical glitches. IREV was just a viewing portal for transparency and 80% of the results have eventually been uploaded on IREV. The major thing which is the BVAS worked.

Ofunaofu:
The individual behind the name Bola A. Tinubu, whether real or fake, male or female must be unmasked


This is a noble quest every patriotic Nigerian must support

Burob:
Abubakar Atiku na real Mumu Man, chasing shadows.

All this, just to tell us there was an error on Tinubu’s BSC from Chicago State University?

Useless Malu.

YeyeGbami:
Atiku serial loser, dubai babes dey wait for your return

helinues:
Atiku, go and rest inside gutter

Okoroawusa:
So you have now won the election?

JetApartment:








You all have moral deficit, supporting someone doesn't mean doing it in stvpidity, your President is a confirmed fraudster who is capable of defrauding your children's future yet you are defending him blindly with zero sense of being a patriotic Nigerian.

You are all a disgrace to humanity.

You all fit the example of human beings that are far dumber than animals.

JetApartment:








You all have moral deficit, supporting someone doesn't mean doing it in stvpidity, your President is a confirmed fraudster who is capable of defrauding your children's future yet you are defending him blindly with zero sense of being a patriotic Nigerian.

You are all a disgrace to humanity.

You all fit the example of human beings that are far dumber than animals.

JetApartment:


Glad to see you named yourself yeye and have a cup at home for collecting tears from your unfortunate self.

tribalmall:
How far with igbos claim of Buhari being Elsudan or Eljibrin ? It's 8 years already, what truth as come out of that ?

How many times must Chicago University affirm Bola Tinubu graduated from the school before you miserable stop chasing shadows ?

The fact that fools chose to chase shadows does not make it, the fact you wail about it does not also make it right.

The burden is on you to prove it is not right according to Nigeria law. We all can't chose to be foolish taking your assumptions as fact, go on n prove Tinubu did not attend the school or shut your foolish mouth.




Look at this fool ?
You despicable soul that supported the fraudster Mnesome Ejikeme shamelessly in front of the whole wide world.

The institution Mnesome claim gave her the certificate came out boldly to testify she is a fraudster, a die hard criminal from birth for that matter but your despicable tribe still went out defending her the like of Ezekwusile n co.

In Tinubu case the institution affirmed Tinubu did attend the Scholl but fools like you that bigotry as ruined your miserable life want the school to claim Tinubu did not. You no just gree get sense one bit I swear.

7arrows:


Your father is a fool and married ur mother who happens to be an idiot so they gave birth to an asshole like you. Unfortunately for you the DNA of your parents produced you as a tribalistic bigot. Your emotions has beclouded you to the extent your Sense of reasoning is zero. Oloshi werey.

ncoolsome:



Logo on the result is different.
Font size is different.
Gender is different.
Date of result issued is different.
Signataries on the result are different.
Name on the result is different.
Age used in gaining admission is different.
Tinubu had more than 40 years to clarify all this publicly but chose to hide,now people are doing the digging up,asking questions and you have the effontary to call it a foolish question,how foolish can you guys be ??

Omowale2023:

Bros I asked you a question. Please give an answer

IfnobeGod20:

Mr. Man, names discrepancy is a fraud everywhere in the world. Names discrepancy caused David Lyon from being sworn in as the governor of Bayelsa state 4 years ago.
Try and say what you know and stop defending the undefendable.

lailo:

All those nonsense u wrote up there are missing in the same certificate and the school still confirms he graduated from there? Ogbeni allow court do her job and get the Bleep out my mention. Dumb people, looking for what is not lost.

Omowale2023:

When? And where?

IfnobeGod20:

You're just particular about civil forfeiture but neglect the portion of the law that says, anyone that have incurred a fine is not competent to vie for an election in Nigeria. Even Tinubu never claimed the money never belong to him and that was why PDP and LP said, he should have appealed the the court ruling when such amount was taken from his account, if truly it was a legitimate money.
Meanwhile, let us even agree that the money was wired to his account without his knowledge but what did he do when he saw such huge amount wired to his account? Did he report to the necessary quarters that money was credited to his account? If he has done that that would have exonerated him but he kept the money in his account and never raised alarm, meaning he was complacent. Remember that there is no I don't know in law. Ignorance can lead you to jail if not careful.

My brother, you're just guess commenting. Tinubu never said he wasn't a citizen of Guinea but claimed his citizenship expired as the Guinean passport expired. Read below from the link of the submission at the tribunal, with extract:
"President Bola Tinubu has informed the Presidential Election Petition Tribunal that his Guinean citizenship expired in 2020, the same year that his Guinean passport, which has been brought up by the opposition, also expired".
https://tribuneonlineng.com/my-guinean-citizenship-expired-in-2020-president-tinubu-tells-tribunal/.
Meanwhile, does citizenship expired. Passport can expire but citizenship doesn't expire, except it is revoked or you voluntarily denounced citizenship through proper procedure. You must follow the same procedure you followed to naturalize yourself to that country.
So stop manufacturing what wasn't in the equation to justify your backing of Tinubu. Tinubu made allegiance with Guinea but claiming it has expired. Point of note, citizenship doesn't expired, except you renounced it.

I won't dwell much of the 25% because it is more of interpretation of the law, which can be interpreted based on the motive you wish to achieve. And this is what we've seen in many of our court's judgements. Like someone that never participated in a primary but was made an aspirant by our court while in another judgement, someone that didn't participate in a primary was told that he cannot reap or benefit from what he didn't participate in.

I never said the election was rigged in favour of Tinubu but I only reacted to what you wrote that there was no evidence of election been rigged. The election was rigged in some states and it was crystal clear in the results posted by INEC into the REVs. Like in Rivers state and Benue, the results posted showed that LP won the two states clearly but the two state was declared to be won by APC. Also, there are some LGAS and areas that there were no election but results declared. So, whether for APC or PDP or LP all amounts to refractions.

My brother, so far the commission gave direct guidelines by which they would conduct the 2023 General Elections. The commission cannot at the middle of the election changed his guidelines. That is Tantamount to double standard. No serious game of that nature that rules are changed at the middle of the game. If it were in a country where rule of law is sacrosanct, heads would have rolled. A glitch that only affected one out of the three elements conducted same day same time and with the same body. Common sense!

IfnobeGod20:

Mr. Man, names discrepancy is a fraud everywhere in the world. Names discrepancy caused David Lyon from being sworn in as the governor of Bayelsa state 4 years ago.
Try and say what you know and stop defending the undefendable.

lailo:

If on your other certificates your name is spelt Godwin Mercy Janet and probably on your NYSC certificate they wrote Godwin Jane Mercy instead. If u submit it for election since it is your original certificate, does it mean u have committed a fraud, bcs the commission didn't arrange your name well or even shorten one of your name by error? Is it not up to the people who question the integrity of your certificate to prove it in court which I salute Atiku for. In fact I couldn't believe he would go that far. Atiku people who are even trying to prove that the certificate is fake are not even making as much noise as u brainless obidient who would only accuse and use lies and propaganda to finish your opponent. Allow Chicago state university, Atiku and court to prove the certificate is fake first you propagandists. Error on certificate does not connote fraud anywhere unless infringement confirmed. That Nigeria's court and politicians are using it as technicatilty to knock out their opponent does not mean the result is fake. Obi should show his election winning figures or get the ffuck outa tribunal.

2mercy:


https://dailypost.ng/2023/08/26/purported-error-on-tinubus-certificate-validates-my-discovery-atiku/

garfield1:



The problem with you obidients is that no matter how someone advance reasonable arguments,you will still stubbornly cling to your biased and skewed narrative even with the latest precedents and laws.section 133 D clearly says a candidate will not be qualified if the person is under a sentence of imprisonment,death or fine or any other crime.the key or operative word is a sentence which has to do with conviction which flows from a guilty charge.was he arraigned,charged and found guilty? No.the us authorities simply froze money totalling over 1 mil belonging to his accounts believed to belong to two convicts.aftet tinubu showed evidence that only 460k of that money belong to those convicts,the money was forfeited while that of tinubu was released.

Section E clearly says after ten years of conviction,you are free to contest...

Concerning the guinea matter,the passport is expired and in law,an expired document is inadmissible which means atiku has no evidence so far.again,atiku has the burden of proof.he is not the maker of the document and should have called the makers who are guinean embassy officials to testify and he failed to.again,the law says voluntarily acquiring another citizenship not dual citizenship.he failed to prove how tinubu either married,registered or naturalize in guinea.citizenship by birth and honorary are involuntary.again,the constitution said swearing allegiance to another country.no proof of this was tendered..atiku and obi have nothing solid

IfnobeGod20:

I don't like engaging with you because owing up to issue is alien to you. You have never seen yourself being wrong for once since I know you on this platform. I have umpteenth times corrected you on this, even when you're caught pants down, you will always dance round it. You always believe you're Mr. Know All. So, I know people I have discourse with and not you.

IfnobeGod20:

I don't like engaging with you because owing up to issue is alien to you. You have never seen yourself being wrong for once since I know you on this platform. I have umpteenth times corrected you on this, even when you're caught pants down, you will always dance round it. You always believe you're Mr. Know All. So, I know people I have discourse with and not you.

plaindealer:




All because you cannot accept superior, intelligent, and factual arguments.

See, you people don't like facts, sane and rational submissions, you think your emotional, sentimental, and group-thinking chants are facts and are admissible or good substitution for facts.

YeyeGbami:
Atiku serial loser, dubai babes dey wait for your return