Ashipa was rewarded with the title of the Oloriogun (War leader) and he received the Oba of Benin’s sanction to govern Lagos on his behalf.

These small fries Binis,they are lizards who see themselves as crocodiles ! They just keep exposing themselves in their futile attempt to make themselves what they're not !

Now,take a look at the highlighted word up there: "Oloriogun", that's a clear Yoruba word, no controversy ! This means that who ever sent "Ashipa",another Yoruba word,to Lagos then was,certainly,a Yoruba man ! Lol, Olori = Head, Ogun = War ! Oloriogun or Balogun in Yoruba language means "a Leader of warriors". Ashipa is a common chieftaincy tittle that's found everywhere in Yorubaland. As a matter of facts,all the underlisted words are well rooted in Yoruba language but are today being used by the Binis. They ordinary have no meanings in Bini language :

* Iyaoba (Iya Oba) = The King's mother.

* Ayaoba (Aya Oba) = The King's wife/wives.

*Olori or Olorioba = The King's senior wife.

*Oba = coined from OBAtala,the first king in Yoruba land.

* Ashipa (Ashipaogun) = High ranked warrior who prepares other or lesser warriors for battle /war.

* Oyegun = a name that's common among the people from the family or lineage of well respected traditional chieftaincy tittle holders.

*All the deties inside the palace of Oba of Benin are all indigenous Yoruba deties - Ogun, Sango,Oya, Yemoja-Olokun,Osun,etc !

Oba of Benin is a Yoruba man.

VEHINTOLAR:


Stop making noise,everything you wrote is gibberish;good only for the dustbin ! Just one point knocks off all the nonsense you laboured so hard to type : Oduduwa was NEVER a Bini man !

Now,explain to us how he must have lost "his Bini language" while wandering in the wilderness,enroute Ile Ife because he neither spoke nor understood Bini language or dialect ! Before you think of any lie to tell,make sure that it is a very good one ! The reason for that advice is; inside the Palace of Ooni and some other sacred places in Ile Ife,there were (are still) some ancient writings and letters,quite similar to the ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs,it was reported that Oduduwa understood those foreign letters and writings. Similar ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs look-alike letters and writings were equally discovered inside the sacred Osun Osogbo Groove !

Was it your missing "Izoduwa" who wrote those ancient hieroglyphs,Bini man ?

So u think the Yoruba u speak today was the same as wot was spoken 900 yrs ago? Ozuduwa is 900 yrs ago! In addition, coming across Egyptian writings in his travels is not impossible.

The No Man's Land better suits Lagos.

Make everyone rest!

Krismas:
So u think the Yoruba u speak today was the same as wot was spoken 900 yrs ago? Ozuduwa is 900 yrs ago! In addition, coming across Egyptian writings in his travels is not impossible.

You be mumu ! The point is; Oduduwa came from a foreign land to Ile Ife but he neither spoke nor understood Bini language ! If he was a Bini man as you want the whole world to believe,there would have been some deeply rooted Bini words and language in Yoruba language today but none exists ! It is even otherway round;you Binis are the ones using some of our words in your day to day activities today !

Ponder over it !

VEHINTOLAR:
Ashipa was rewarded with the title of the Oloriogun (War leader) and he received the Oba of Benin’s sanction to govern Lagos on his behalf.

These small fries Binis,they are lizards who see themselves as crocodiles ! They just keep exposing themselves in their futile attempt to make themselves what they're not !

Now,take a look at the highlighted word up there: "Oloriogun", that's a clear Yoruba word, no controversy ! This means that who ever sent "Ashipa",another Yoruba word,to Lagos then was,certainly,a Yoruba man ! Lol, Olori = Head, Ogun = War ! Oloriogun or Balogun in Yoruba language means "a Leader of warriors". Ashipa is a common chieftaincy tittle that's found everywhere in Yorubaland. As a matter of facts,all the underlisted words are well rooted in Yoruba language but are today being used by the Binis. They ordinary have no meanings in Bini language :

* Iyaoba (Iya Oba) = The King's mother.

* Ayaoba (Aya Oba) = The King's wife/wives.

*Olori or Olorioba = The King's senior wife.

*Oba = coined from OBAtala,the first king in Yoruba land.

* Ashipa (Ashipaogun) = High ranked warrior who prepares other or lesser warriors for battle /war.

* Oyegun = a name that's common among the people from the family or lineage of well respected traditional chieftaincy tittle holders.

*All the deties inside the palace of Oba of Benin are all indigenous Yoruba deties - Ogun, Sango,Oya, Yemoja-Olokun,Osun,etc !

Oba of Benin is a Yoruba man.

The yorubas are the GREATEST borrowers of Bini terms!
For example, Kpataki or important in Yoruba is borrowed from the Bini word Kpotoki, which was a mispronunciation of Portuguese. In delta state there is still the OLOROGUN family to show u Oloriogun of the Yoruba was borrowed. They take so many terms from Bini, get too used to the terms and now claim it was theirs in the first place

Krismas:
The yorubas are the GREATEST borrowers of Bini terms!
For example, Kpataki or important in Yoruba is borrowed from the Bini word Kpotoki, which was a mispronunciation of Portuguese. In delta state there is still the OLOROGUN family to show u Olorogun was borrowed. They take so many terms from Bini, get too used to the terms and now claim it was theirs in the first place

Lol, you're a clown,walahi !

VEHINTOLAR:


Lol, you're a clown,walahi !

Oloriogun is from OLOROGUN. Was never Yoruba’s to begin with

Ogene001:

You will be severely dealt with after Tinubu. We all know your people are the real secessionist

Lmao 🤣
Secessionist my foot.
You said you ll be dealt with after Tinubu.
A fûck isn't given Whether Tinubu is president or not. The msg is telling you that Yorubas want peace. And if you think peace isn't ok, bring your violence. Don't disrespect Yorubas.
Dint come and rewrite their history. All you children of electoral pains, wait till 2027 to vent ya anger via voting.
So you think Tinubu's offering cover for Yorubas?
You are mad & hungry, oya take bread and akara to eat!

christistruth01:



If Ooni of Ife turns up in Benin and Claims the Throne and Kingdom of Benin he too is also right


Ok, Let us look at the praise names of oba of benin

One of it is
Abieyuwa N'Ovbi Odua N'uhe
The son of the wealthy Odua of Uhe(Ife).
(Odua of Ife is the same as oduduwa of Ife)

Another of oba of benin's praise names is

Ovbi' Adimila
The son of Adimila
oduduwa was also known as Olofin Adimula
Which was his Title

Notice there is no mention at all of any Ekhalerderhan of Igodomigodo or izoduwa that got lost

They did not mention the Ekhalerderhan and izoduwa too is not happening anywhere in oba of benin's praise names but they called Oduduwa the great Odua of Ife his Father

So with their own mouths they themselves have already given the evidence that fully demolished and destroyed their case which had no legs to stand on in the first place and have confirmed with your own Mouth that the oba of benin was indeed oduduwa's Son
There is nothing left to drag because it is settled

God bless you jare.

Oduduwa came from the Benin Kingdom.
So, if the Father of the Yorubas came from Benin, that means Benin Kingdom owns not only Lagos, but the entire Yoruba land.

VEHINTOLAR:


You be mumu ! The point is; Oduduwa came from a foreign land to Ile Ife but he neither spoke nor understood Bini language ! If he was a Bini man as you want the whole world to believe,there would have been some deeply rooted Bini words and language in Yoruba language today but none exists ! It is even otherway round;you Binis are the ones using some of our words in your day to day activities today !

Ponder over it !

U d greater Mumu! There is nothing to ponder over. What is the The Egyptian words Oduduwa introduced to Yoruba language?

lexy2014:


thats not what I asked you.

1. if you say that "Oduduwa son became first king in Benin" was that "first king in Benin" the one that gave birth to all the Binis that present days Binis now have to trace their ancestry to him?

2. also, is the Oba of Benin wrong in his claim that the Binis FOUNDED Lagos?

Yes Oba of Benin was wrong in his claim that was why we said Yorubas were in Lagos with even a Moba kingdom there before Oduduwa was born they later assimilated with the Awori people

All Oba's of Benin descended from Oduduwa

Do you know that the first Ogiso Obagodo who founded Igodomigodo was from Ile Ife and founded Igodomigodo with his followers who were at least part of a Pre Oduduwa. population of Igodomigodo

Oya wetin you want talk
The first Ogiso Obagodo was from Ile Ife too

Krismas:
Oloriogun is from OLOROGUN. Was never Yoruba’s to begin with

Mumu,Oloriogun and Olorogun are not the same thing and they don't mean same thing ! You won't know because they are not your words originally. You may use Google translator,Bini man !

Padipadi:

God bless you jare.

God bless you too greatly

lexy2014:


what exactly did the Oba of Benin say that is wrong?

did he claim anywhere as his own?

Benin were not the founders of Lagos

Benin only saw a Great Party going on in Lagos and joined in

If the Itsekiri had made the Claim it would have been far more tolerable ,at least those ones have Lagos Ijebu roots and gladly say it

VEHINTOLAR:


Mumu,Oloriogun and Olorogun are not the same thing and they don't mean same thing ! You won't know because they are not your words originally. You may use Google translator,Bini man !

What Yorubas have is Balogun NEVER Oloriogun. It not for you. U borrowed it. Same thing the word Oba. It’s from the Bini monarch! It’s not a Yoruba word

christistruth01:


Benin were not the founders of Lagos

Benin only saw a Great Party going on in Lagos and joined in

If the Itsekiri had made the Claim it would have been far more tolerable ,at least those ones have Lagos Ijebu roots

The Itsekiri nation still pay tithe to the Bini kingdom uptill today

lexy2014:


why is there no time?

Shombiro

christistruth01:



Yes Oba of Benin was wrong in his claim that was why we said Yorubas were in Lagos with even a Moba kingdom there before Oduduwa was born they later assimilated with the Awori people

All Oba's of Benin descended from Oduduwa

Do you know that the first Ogiso Obagodo who founded Igodomigodo was from Ile Ife and founded Igodomigodo with his followers who were at least part of a Pre Oduduwa. population of Igodomigodo

Oya wetin you want talk
The first Ogiso Obagodo was from Ile Ife too

LOL
U see, OGISO is two compound words OGIE meaning king and ISO meaning Sky or heaven. Ogiso means king from heaven.
Ogisos didn’t come from anywhere on earth. The were probably aliens! And their era passed away quickly

ILoveNG:
I guess it's yet to occur to some people that the Yoruba tribe is one of the tribes in Africa who first start the documentation and preservation of its history

Kwayet ya mouth dia! When Timbuktu had advanced in education to what gave birth to the western university educational system centuries after, Oduduwa had not yet been born!

Krismas:
The Itsekiri nation still pay tithe to the Bini kingdom uptill today

If Ooni of Ife turns up to Claim the Benin Throne and Kingdom now he too is very correct

Do you know that the Coronation of the Oba Of Benin cannot be Completed until the Ooni sends him a Traditional Staff of Office
Of course you are so proficient at denying the Truth and will deny it

It is sent to all Oba's of Oduduwa Ancestry and if you go to any Obas Palace they will show you the Staffs of all the Previous Obas

That is one of the ways they keep count of the number of Obas that have ruled any place
All their Obas Previous Staffs are kept in a secluded place in their Palaces

Ooni of Ife must also send them a Special beaded necklace which symbolizes his approval of their Coronation as Oba

The Itsekiri didn't even claim to be founders of Lagos

VEHINTOLAR:


Stop making noise,everything you wrote is gibberish;good only for the dustbin ! Just one point knocks off all the nonsense you laboured so hard to type : Oduduwa was NEVER a Bini man !

Now,explain to us how he must have lost "his Bini language" while wandering in the wilderness,enroute Ile Ife because he neither spoke nor understood Bini language or dialect ! Before you think of any lie to tell,make sure that it is a very good one ! The reason for that advice is; inside the Palace of Ooni and some other sacred places in Ile Ife,there were (are still) some ancient writings and letters,quite similar to the ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs,it was reported that Oduduwa understood those foreign letters and writings. Similar ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs look-alike letters and writings were equally discovered inside the sacred Osun Osogbo Groove !

Was it your missing "Izoduwa" who wrote those ancient hieroglyphs,Bini man ?

In matters like this, I try to be as respectful as possible.


Kindly go online, do a little research, then come back and refute any point I raised.


Meanwhile:

1. Oduduwa didn't come from the sky.

2. He couldn't have been an Arabian Prince, the earliest date given for the establishment of Old Oyo was 1300 AD, no matter the age of Oduduwa, if he was Arab, he would have brought Islam then because Islam was already established in the Arabian Pennisular as at that time.

3. The most reasonable yoruba Origin story for Oduduwa claims he came from the "East". Get a map and check which was the most prominent Kingdom or society East of Ife as at that time.



We don't do insults, we do facts.

Christistruth00:


If Ooni of Ife turns up to Claim the Benin Throne and Kingdom now he too is very correct

The Itsekiri didn't even claim to be founders of Lagos

Oduduwa came from Benin. Wen he was asked to return, he sent his grandson Oranmiyan. Who tried to straighten the power tussle in Bini, b4 leaving to to reign as Alafin in Oyo. Dats the history. How den can Ooni claim Benin throne?

Krismas:
Oduduwa came from Benin. Wen he was asked to return, he sent his grandson Oranmiyan. Who tried to straighten the power tussle in Bini, b4 leaving to to reign as Alafin in Oyo. Dats the history. How den can Ooni claim Benin throne?

Oduduwa was born at Oke Ora at Ile Ife his People were believed to be of Gobir or Kanuri Stock and till today Kanuri still claim that some of their Ancestors were Yemeni though I believe they were Blacks driven out of Sudan by religious Jihads because the Sudanese have tribal marks similar to the Kanuri and Yorubas and some Kanuri are actually indigenous to the Darfur in Sudan

But some People would Poetically say he descended from Olodumare at Oke.Ora

Of Course that is not what happened Oduduwa was not a Bird or a Bat

Christistruth00:


If Ooni of Ife turns up to Claim the Benin Throne and Kingdom now he too is very correct

Do you know that the Coronation of the Oba Of Benin cannot be Completed until the Ooni sends him a Traditional Staff of Office
Of course you are such proficient at denying the Truth and will deny it

It is sent to all Oba's of Oduduwa Ancestry and if you go to any Obas Palace they will show you the Staffs of all the Previous Obas

That is one of the ways they keep count of the number of Obas that have ruled any place
All their Obas Previous Staffs are kept in a secluded place in their Palaces

The Itsekiri didn't even claim to be founders of Lagos

Oba is Benin word. The rest answering to it, borrowed it. Wen this current Oba N’edo was installed, the Ooni was in Benin to render help to him with the king makers and obviously mediate btw the Oba and the kingmakers. That’s all I know. The RESPECTED Ooni is not one of Bini kingmakers though I acknowledge his greatness

Christistruth00:



Oduduwa was born at Oke Ora at Ile Ife

But some People would say he descended from Olofumare at Oke.Ora

Of Course that is not what happened Oduduwa was not a Bird or a Bat

U shouldn’t say things u cannot substantiate.

christistruth01:


Thank you for this wonderful question

Some of the Moba people Migrated to Ijebu long before Oduduwa was born
We always knew that there were Aboriginal Ijebu around Lagos long before Oduduwa was born but they were not called Ijebu until around the 16th Century

They were Originally part of the Moba kingdom

That was why Awujale said the Ijebus were not of Oduduwa descent which is True for some Ijebu even though towns like Ijebu Ife are of direct Oduduwa descent

For example Oore Otun Ekiti is of Non Oduduwa Moba kingship dynasty descent too
It was he who told the first Owa Obokun of Ijesha to fetch water from the Moba Sea near Victoria Island today and that was what he used to cure Oduduwa's blindness

As an eredo native. I will have to take your words with a pinch of salt. As an ijebu person i've always seen some difference from the Oyo and Osun and kwara type of yoruba to the ijebu, ikale/ilaje type of yoruba. The aworis are more like the osun kind of yorubas. Not until i grew to understand that the ijebu were of an east ward migration. The moba word you use is quite new to me and the eredo kingdom predate the ijebu kingdom doesnt mean the natives of those area dont see themselves ijebu.
There are striking similarities between the ilaje, ikale, and itshekiri plus ijebu people dialect that has made me believe not everyone is from ile-ife but some historian are bent on forcing propaganda for reason best known to them.
Giving various historical assumption on peoples lineage. Making everything look like it started from oduduwa.
There is no moba people mixed with any awori. Awori are later settlers who came to dwell in lagos island. The people of ibeju who also identify as ijebu so as the people of Epe/Eredo too. Those that existed and lived within eredo during the reign of the female empress are more likely to be mix with present day ijebu.
Some parts of ijebu today like ijebu-ife might be migrant from ife who identify with ijebu during the awujale reign.

Krismas:
Oba is Benin word. The rest answering to it, borrowed it. Wen this current Oba N’edo was installed, the Ooni was in Benin to render help to him with the king makers and obviously mediate btw the Oba and the kingmakers. That’s all I know. The RESPECTED Ooni is not one of Bini kingmakers though I acknowledge his greatness

Obatala was the King Oduduwa fought and replaced in Ile Ife can you already see Oba in his name
The Obatala king that Oduduwa fought was believed to be number 93 on the Throne

Christistruth00

For the case of oba of benin.
I see unnecessary rant by many people.
Oba of benin was not a native isale eko. They were settlers there already, what they did was founding the city and its civilization.
Why are some historians angry and want to distort fact when descendant of the Benin settlers are still in Lagos with their verifiable history.

JOemmy:



What about the oba of Lagos that claimed Bini heritage?

He is of Bini heritage no doubt but his ancestors never found Lagos. They were invaders.

Racoon:
Oba really touched a nerve. But Fulani confidently claimed Ilorin and chase people to find refuge in Benin Republic, them no talk pim. Instead they were protesting and standing with their killer Palestinian terrorists brothers in Monatan - Iwo Road.

Funny that I used to see you as being objective with your posts but you goofed big time and showed how completely ignorant you are.

Now y'all present yourselves as an opposition to the Yorubas then when they act out that behaviour of opposition, you'll start crying that they hate thr Igbos.

Imagine the Binis themselves not coming for the Yorubas to defend the Oba but it now seems the Igbos have made themselves compulsory enemies of the Yorubas

Why would you hate people this much and expect them to treat you like friends and neighbours?