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Nato008:

Common how can u use bin laden as a case study when u know the were going to seve him justice hot

Aside from the fact that -

1. They didnt go to arrest him (not that they had a right to do so on foreign soil) - they went to kill him

2. If not for the power of the USA in the world, that was a breach of sovereignty and a breach of international law, and in fact murder on foreign soil.

3. Its just a bad example generally. That was a case that had risen to the level of warfare for all practical purposes, and thats why no one will look at the fine points of legality or illegality.

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Idaytesj29:


No, they can. They only need a duly signed arrest warrant by a DPO or office of the commissioner, area commander etc.
The police has lot of powers that you don't even know.

The guy should have gone to them with his lawyer for their questioning. That will be better.

*Politeness*
Actually according to the letter of the law only a judge or magistrate can issue a warrant of arrest (see below). But since when did Nigerian police start following letter of the law?!

phemray:


Very simple.

People condemning police forgot that police officers are human being as well grew up in the Nigerian society. Some people comments on nairaland and this policemen actions are same in different ways. Action and reaction are equal and opposite. Trust me if d guy has no issues, he will not be making noise to create sympathy. Ok I ask, why didn't the police go to another person house, but choose to go meet the guy in the studio because they know who they are looking for.

Typical Naija thinking. Who cares what the law says

PoliteActivist:
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*Politeness*
Actually according to the letter of the law only a judge or magistrate can issue a warrant of arrest (see below). But since when did Nigerian police start following letter of the law?!

Thanks for clarifying this

lexy2014:


do you understand the questions am asking you?

1. Which one is "restricting" arrest?

2. How did he restrict arrest and obstruct police duty?

I do, but did you watch the video at all?

pongwa:
I do, but did you watch the video at all?

good. you claim that the person arrested was "restricting" arrest'

1. Which one is "restricting" arrest?

2. How did he "restrict" arrest and obstruct police duty?

Idaytesj29:


No, they can. They only need a duly signed arrest warrant by a DPO or office of the commissioner, area commander etc.
The police has lot of powers that you don't even know.

The guy should have gone to them with his lawyer for their questioning. That will be better.

what are the "lot of powers" that the police has that he doesnt even know?

who gave the police those powers?

lexy2014:


what are the "lot of powers" that the police has that he doesnt even know?

who gave the police those powers?

Nigerian constitution

Idaytesj29:


Nigerian constitution

I asked you two questions.

1. what are the "lot of powers" that the police has that he doesnt even know?

2. who gave the police those powers?

3. can you show me the place in the constitution where the police were given these "lots of powers"?

Supremos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFB_yQ6M3ig



Caught On Tape

that man just making noise. Instead of him to video the faces of the police.

lexy2014:


I asked you two questions.

1. what are the "lot of powers" that the police has that he doesnt even know?

2. who gave the police those powers?

3. can you show me the place in the constitution where the police were given these "lots of powers"?

Get the Nigerian Constitution and read it or you go to Louis Edet House, your questions will be answered.

Idaytesj29:


Get the Nigerian Constitution and read it or you go to Louis Edet House, your questions will be answered.

since you have gotten the Nigerian constitution and you have gone to Louis Edet house, then answering these questions shouldnt be difficult for you.

1. what are the "lot of powers" that the police has that he doesnt even know?

2. who gave the police those powers?

3. can you show me the place in the constitution where the police were given these "lots of powers"?

I can confidently say the actions of the officers are unlawful and they should be reprimanded. This practice of arresting people on the basis of petitions in Nigeria needs to stop. Allegations must be reported and recorded formally as a crime which the police must investigate and provide evidence to charge in court.

There should be mechanisms in place to deal with civil matters instead of involving who should be combating and solving crime.

Also any journalistic material is subject to legal privilege and going into a live studio to arrest anyone is fraught with legal problems.

They should have simply waited and effected the arrest afterwards outside the studio.

Also just because it is common practice does not make it lawful.

Officers are accountable for their actions and must explore other options or choose the less intrusive one to do the job effectively. Their actions must be proportionate, legal and accountable.


You wouldn't use a hammer to kill a mosquito or a sledge hammer to break a nut.

SmartyPants:


Which law did they break?

You went further to link it to the possibility of arresting Oseni - is Oseni a wanted person or a suspect due for arrest? Why can't you situate events in their proper context?

They didn't apply common sense ...

GOATandYAMtheory:
show us where it is stated in the constitution that a bricklayer cannot be arrested while doing his job.

Una go just dey speak nonsense English full space. So you mean if a junkalist says things capable of disturbing public peace and inciting violence, he should be allowed to finish because he is on the job?

Most Nigerians just want to be heard. They don't even listen to themselves

You know they can serve a warrant and the station will end the program so the officers can conduct their activity

lexy2014:


good. you claim that the person arrested was "restricting" arrest'

1. Which one is "restricting" arrest?

2. How did he "restrict" arrest and obstruct police duty?

first of all, my premise is based on the assumption of availability of a warrant of arrest.
1.) did he or did he not refuse the order of the police man or not? That is restriction for you
2) when you refuse or disobey a lawful order, I believe you have obstructed lawful proceedings is it not?

EverythingPhone:
If theirs is. No skeleton in your cupboard
Pls follow them and know wetin Dey sup

Very simple.

People condemning police forgot that police officers are human being as well grew up in the Nigerian society. Some people comments on nairaland and this policemen actions are same in different ways. Action and reaction are equal and opposite. Trust me if d guy has no issues, he will not be making noise to create sympathy. Ok I ask, why didn't the police go to another person house, but choose to go meet the guy in the studio because they know who they are looking for.

Idaytesj29:


Thanks for clarifying this

*Politeness*
You quite welcome dear

Rolings:


Sometimes criminals behave in a way that puts security agencies in a very difficult situation.
If a man decides to behave irrationally it's okay for police to be irrational with him too.
The police I know would have extended invitation to him and called him to come to their office and he has refused.
I'm sure he ran to that television studio believing falsely that he can't be arrested on set.

No surprise at the eminently stupid position you're taking on this issue! Your intense hatred for anything Igbo has made you extend an unmerited benefit-of-the-doubt to a murderous, oppressive, corrupt and notorious organisation whose unsavoury reputation precedes them!

Get a life worth living before hate consumes you!

Vacora:
I can confidently say the actions of the officers are unlawful and they should be reprimanded. This practice of arresting people on the basis of petitions in Nigeria needs to stop. Allegations must be reported and recorded formally as a crime which the police must investigate and provide evidence to charge in court.

There should be mechanisms in place to deal with civil matters instead of involving who should be combating and solving crime.

Also any journalistic material is subject to legal privilege and going into a live studio to arrest anyone is fraught with legal problems.

They should have simply waited and effected the arrest afterwards outside the studio.

Also just because it is common practice does not make it lawful.

Officers are accountable for their actions and must explore other options or choose the less intrusive one to do the job effectively. Their actions must be proportionate, legal and accountable.


You wouldn't use a hammer to kill a mosquito or a sledge hammer to break a nut.

So spot on!

Nigeria is a lawless jungle and this is what some assholes thrive on and depend on to rig themselves into power, rob the state treasury, and enthrone nepotism, bigotry and division! This is what they're protecting why they support lawlessness and injustice....lke we see them doing on this thread!

PROUDIGBO:


No surprise at the eminently stupid position you're taking on this issue! Your intense hatred for anything Igbo has made you extend an unmerited benefit-of-the-doubt to a murderous, oppressive, corrupt and notorious organisation whose unsavoury reputation precedes them!

Get a life worth living before hate consumes you!

Everyone that say anything you people don't want to hear automatically hates igbos.

So what will you do about it?
Ndi dot in the circle

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Using an error to justify another error is abysmal. Conventional security agencies are not secret cults where creepy things happen.

Hezmatosky:

Nope!
What if the guy has wrong information to pass, he wouldn't be allowed to do so. Where they got it all wrong is that, because police has the right of arrest at any point. You can prove yourself innocent at the station or the law court, the should have allowed the management of the tv station to go off air and handed the guy to them. That's all

Switching off the transmitter is better than bursting the live coverage that provided the guy an opportunity to portray the police in a bad light.

Or, sanctioning the radio station management would have brought dignity than this disgraceful act.

And there is always right of reply in conventional media space. The police and the radio management should have allowed the other party to air his/her own side of the story for a balanced repottage.

victorazy:


Is the station not supposed have armed security men standby?

That would babe led to gun duel between the police and the radio’s security guys and that would escalate chaos.

sketching:


20% of them are actually illiterate (give them a pen to write their name, their hands would be shaking in fear).

lol…….. a police officer that can’t write his/her name is charged with the responsibility to uphold the law that requires intellectual acumen………. No be juju be that!

Praxis758:
Only God know the kind of Stone Age curriculum the Nigerian Police is using in its training schools.

It is professionally, legally and morally wrong for any security agency to arrest a suspect during a live coverage of a program. They should have allowed the program to be concluded before effecting the arrest.

Our police will continue to be a disgrace and the leadership should e embarrassed for this.

That means they can burst into Arise studio and arrest Rufai Oseni for always tackling the leadership.

There is nothing special about a TV program.
A suspect can be arrested anywhere.
The only issue I will have is if the police has no warrant for the arrest.

Fiscus105:



Have you tried to ask urself, the kind offence the guy committed?

Anybody can be arrested in anywhere, the respect police would grant u, for them not to arrest u in certain places, would base on level of offences u committed.


Meanwhile, as for Rufai, he has never committed offence that warrant him to be arrested. The offence he normally committed is to fine the TV station and which they are doing periodically.

Buharists, Apcists and Batists will disagree with you on this Rufai saga.

Their wish is for the police or DSS to wake up one morning and ransack the Arise tv during a live coverage under the pretense that the tv is a threat to national security.

Manmusteat:

State the relevant sections of the law that forbids police from effecting an arrest during a live TV appearance. The police can even breakdown and barge into your house, break your car window, drag you off of an airplane to effect a lawful arrest if you are resisting like the guy here, and they are completely backed by law, you are here talking of live TV presence. Also what is morally or professionally wrong in arresting a criminal wherever he may be?

There are laws and conventions. Ask anyone with legal background and he/she will school you on the correlation between laws of countries around the world and conventions.

No law globally permits anyone from being arrested in any place of worship (pagoda, mosque, shrine or church)

No security agency is conventionally permitted to burst any arrest any suspect in embassies, court rooms or hallowed chambers except the aforementioned management handover the suspect(s).

pongwa:
first of all, my premise is based on the assumption of availability of a warrant of arrest.
1.) did he or did he not refuse the order of the police man or not? That is restriction for you
2) when you refuse or disobey a lawful order, I believe you have obstructed lawful proceedings is it not?

that is not what I asked you.

1. Which one is "restricting" arrest?

2. How did he "restrict" arrest and obstruct police duty?

NB: did you see the word I highlighted?

Praxis758:



There are laws and conventions. Ask anyone with legal background and he/she will school you on the correlation between laws of countries around the world and conventions.

No law globally permits anyone from being arrested in any place of worship (pagoda, mosque, shrine or church)

No security agency is conventionally permitted to burst any arrest any suspect in embassies, court rooms or hallowed chambers except the aforementioned management handover the suspect(s).

Is a radio station any of the mentioned places above? Again, stop being sentimental, the guy that was arrested obviously did something wrong. Don't get me wrong, I am all for justice and fairness, but sometimes we should let law enforcement do their job without hindrance. Except if you want a lawless society

lexy2014:


that is not what I asked you.

1. Which one is "restricting" arrest?

2. How did he "restrict" arrest and obstruct police duty?

NB: did you see the word I highlighted?

are you retarded or something?