ideylaff:

I reached 300 KPH (187.5 MPH) on the SilverStone Circuit in an F1 car as a Birthday Experience Adventure gift. a few years ago, wow

Ikenna351:

Siena, you got it wrong. If you read the post properly, you would understand that i wasnt emphasing on the speed, but a matching car for a high speed.

Like i noted in the earlier post, a KIA Picanto can speed upto 170kph. Yes, likewise Toyota Yaris. But are you now telling me that the body or size of such cars match such speeds? You think they can handle it? So just because a car instrument cluster shows 240 km/h,  means that its safe to speed the car in question at such speed and still manuaever eventualities at such speeds?

Ikenna.

Ikenna351:

Siena, you got it wrong. If you read the post properly, you would understand that i wasnt emphasing on the speed, but a matching car for a high speed.

Like i noted in the earlier post, a KIA Picanto can speed upto 170kph. Yes, likewise Toyota Yaris. But are you now telling me that the body or size of such cars match such speeds? You think they can handle it? So just because a car instrument cluster shows 240 km/h,  means that its safe to speed the car in question at such speed and still manuaever eventualities at such speeds?

Ikenna.

Siena:

If you're referring to the size of the body shell, then again, you're not on point. A smaller shell with a decent power-to-weight ratio will out handle a big heavy car. I attend track days, and the cars that out handle the opposition are the small lightweights. An example is a Caterham 7 or a Lotus Elise. The Lotus Elise ('96-'01) makes a measly 118 bhp from its 1,8 I4 engine. This will out-accelerate a Bentley Turbo R, and out-handle it too. So, would you still say a big, heavy car is favourable for good handling? We've dropped balls-out power now, and engine configuration. I have been out-smarted on the track by a Caterham 7, with 110 bhp, with me in a heavily-worked Audi S4, with trick suspension and 412 bhp.

And you're getting things mixed up bro. At no point did I state the maximum speed of any car, based on what's on the speedo dials. I've gone by the manufacturer's figures, which have very little to do with the speedo dials. Most cars will have the dials calibrated in excess of the car's actual maximum, so the dials are a moot point.

itoldu:

i did this somewhere between ile- ife and moro in a kia cerato 2008 model. i checked online for the topspeed of the car. it was written to be limited at 198km/hr whereas i went ahead to 200km/hr. the pics was taken with my hp phone so it aint that clear.
If you are interested in taking your car to topspeed in the southwest, there are two main roads/highways i can recommend.
1- from elegbusi beach to La campagne tropicana beach in Lagos state (my 1st choice, straight road and no potholes)
2- from ota to Joga orile in ogun state

Be careful bro, snapping pictures of your speedo at those speeds is risky business, but cool none the less.  

And as for the top speed, it wouldn't be limited. Limits are imposed on certain Euro models that will do in excess of 155 mph. Or in Japan, models are limited to 112 mph. Your figure for the Kia Cerato would be the maximum, very different from an electronically limited / governed speed of 198 km/h.  

Siena:

Wallie, I agree with you - to a point.  A lightweight, aerodynamic car will be less affected by crosswinds at speed, than a heavy, boxy one. This is also why the Lotus Elise has tremendous downforce, courtesy of it's rear spoiler and front splitter. It also sits closer to the tarmac, with the underside pretty much covered. With its small frontal and side area, it will cut through the wind, helped by its wedge-shaped profile.

A big, heavy car with a boxy shape will definitely be affected by crosswinds, and will become unstable at speed, even on a good day. The same goes for trucks - they are way heavier than cars, but at 90 mph will feel far from stable, and are more affected by crosswinds. Large frontal / side section = greater wind resistance, which increases the faster one travels.

But it's all good, we're all learning a thing or two here.  

Ikenna351:

@ ambyzown,

And what about them? Yes they are poweful cars, with modern electronic components that ensures good road handling of such cars at great or hi speed. And pleasurable to drive. Yes, performance cars, they might be too. But does that stop the 505 V6 from being one too? Was it because it a late '90s production? Car enthusiast dont judge cars by mere look or how modern they might be, but how they perform when geared into action. I can only comment on a car i have driven. The technology might be outdated, but it still remain what it is. At least, not many modern cars performs as good as the good as the car does. Most modern Performance cars need to be hard accelerated before they will perform. But this car is different. Its a short stroke V6 engine. The car shoots out like rocket at slight touch on the throttle pedal (low rpm). Find out the difference for us between short stroke & long stroke engine and get back to us. Tell us which one produces high engine torque at a very low rpm.

Its a performance car not just because its V6, but the road handling. Test drive one and judge!

Ikenna.

Err, Ikenna, the Audi Quattro 20V (1989) 2,2 I5 produced maximum torque from 1,950 rpm to 5,800, so quite a broad plateau of usable torque. It wasn't a long stroke engine either, the stroke was 86,4 mm with a bore size of 81,0 mm. So it all depends on design.

The Peugeot 505 V6 is not a performance car. It takes more than a V6 engine and good road holding to make a car a performance car. Your car at best falls into the large family sedan class. it has a modest (170 bhp) output for its size and weight. And no, I'm not saying so because the Peugeot 505 V6 is an old design. There are older 4-door sedans that are regarded as performance cars. BMW E23 M535i (1984), Ford Sierra RS Cosworth (1985), Nissan Skyline R32 sedan (1989).

I think you're simply biased towards your car (not a bad thing) - hence you opinion that "most modern performance cars need to be pushed hard before they will perform." You've made this thread about the virtues of the Pug 505 V6. Any car with an I4 is no good for hi-speed use. All this thread was about was What's The Fastest Speed You've Experienced In A Car? That's all. It wasn't about extolling the virtues of any given model. Bro, where did you get that opinion from regarding modern performance cars, and how many "modern" performance cars have you driven? There are many other short-stroke engines out there, even in I4 guise. A short-stroke does not always equate to high torque at low rpm in modern designs. A long stroke in older cars simply meant the engine's maximum safe rpm was reduced. These days, with lighter material and variable intake flaps, it doesn't really matter.

If you Google BMW M3, M5, M6, Audi S4, S6, S8, Ford Sierra RS Cosworth, Ford Fiesta RS Turbo etc you'll see they're all referred to as performance or High-Performance cars. Interestingly, the Ford Fiesta RS Turbo (1989) was an I4 1,6 turbo, 130 bhp with FWD! This pretty much negates your statement with regards to FWD cars not fitting the "performance" tag. A performance car is a car that is built for a purpose, not just get from A to B. The Pug 505 V6 was built to appeal to the family man who wants more poke in a family sedan than the 2,0 turbo could give. It was not aimed at the Sport / Performance sector.

I used to be a contributor, write a technical column for Volkswagen Audi Car magazine, between 1988 - 1996. Google this magazine when you get a spare moment. It was a monthly publication, still exists as two separate magazines - Audi Drive and Volkswagen Driver. I would be handed a brand new car, and told to abuse it for 3 weeks, give an opinion, do a write-up, see what broke, stood up to abuse, and generally what could be improved, before the car was taken back. Opinion had to be biased, not based on my preference to my own car. My own model had its own failings too, and I had to address them when writing my column. I'm no stranger when it comes to building engines that can be classed as high-performance, I'll scan some magazine features on some cars I've built.

@ Ambyzown: The Audi R8 and Nissan GTR can be referred to as Supercars!