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Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by Mrexcell(m): 11:13pm On Mar 31
Miracle actually do exist to only those who have faith and believe something like this also happened in my church recently where a woman's husband was totally healed of prostrate cancer after she ran to hold the garment of our vicar after church service almost similar with the story of the woman with the issue of blood in the bible.
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by Kobojunkie: 11:22pm On Mar 31
Mrexcell:
Miracle actually do exist to only those who have faith and believe something like this also happened in my church recently where a woman's husband was totally healed of prostrate cancer after she ran to hold the garment of our vicar after church service almost similar with the story of the woman with the issue of blood in the bible.
Her husband was totally healed of prostrate cancer before she ran to hold the garment of the vicar after church service. Are you people for real? Was she able to immediately able to test her husband at that very moment to confirm he was healed because of that act of hers? Come on people! These tales una dey like tell dey give a person the heebie-jeebies abeg! undecided
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by Mrexcell(m): 11:33pm On Mar 31
Kobojunkie:
Her husband was totally healed of prostrate cancer before she ran to hold the garment of the vicar after church service. Are you people for real? Was she able to immediately able to test her husband at that very moment to confirm he was healed because of that act of hers? Come on people! These tales una dey like tell dey give a person the heebie-jeebies abeg! undecided


It was after the vicar prayed for her and she went home to her husband to see the miracle I don't expect u to believe this story anyway cause it's beyond the understanding of non believers.
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by Kobojunkie: 11:37pm On Mar 31
Mrexcell:
∆ It was after the vicar prayed for her and she went home to her husband to see the miracle I don't expect u to believe this story anyway cause it's beyond the understanding of non believers.
Jesus Christ, I believe. Your vicar and the woman's claims I do not. Sorry, the story no even enter at all at all. After she got home that she then went immediately to test her husband to find out if her touching the vicar's garment healed him? Abegi! undecided
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by JooEeL(m): 11:46pm On Mar 31
FxMasterz:


Where are these deaf and blind atheists like francistown, lordreed, maynman, jaephoenix, hopefullandlord, knownunknown and their fellow blinds and deafs to come and dispute this miracle too?

Ur life is finished.
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by JooEeL(m): 12:01am On Apr 01
OMBIIGA:
Let us be very cautious with our comments. Miracle it self is God supernatural intervention in human affairs.
It's behind logic and human understanding!!

U go explain tire.
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by JooEeL(m): 12:14am On Apr 01
fuckingAyaya:
If it explainable then it no longer a miracle, those that use to call God sky daddy, the day u die and stand b4 some Angel's y'all will beg for 3seconds to correct ur wrongs on earth but by then it will be too late. Y'all believe someone can hold rain, someone can hypnotize someone with charms, y'all believe someone can do shoot someone and it won't penetrate but y'all dont believe in the existence of God Almighty. Well I don't blame most of you I blame the many fake men of God taking advantage of people without discerning spirit to defraud them.
Nb: God no collect power from lucifer hand so the b!tch is taking multitude to hell with him.

that ur god punish that ur jobless angels plus the stupid sheeple who have no job than to spread fear in gullibles' peoples' hearts. Ori gbogbo yin buru.
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by JooEeL(m): 12:52am On Apr 01
Paramount01:




Those ones that happen sometimes, who did God now make it happen

Which silly ones?
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by JooEeL(m): 12:53am On Apr 01
Geovanni412:


Here is the most probable outcome

The boy probably had 3 kidneys

But the doctors were unaware of it the first time he went there

There are cases like that. see:
https://www.news18.com/news/buzz/kanpur-man-has-3-kidneys-doctors-say-its-rare-but-nothing-to-worry-5817307.html

Another thinker right here. We are having good thinkers these days.

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Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by pendragonbladgo(m): 1:50am On Apr 01
Lols, some who are even graduates will believe ohhhh, chaiii... Black man na black man
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by Kobojunkie: 2:25am On Apr 01
korm2me:
Mother rejected surgery and went to church. After pastor prayed she still went to hospital for the surgery . If they report she went back to hospital to confirm if the prayer worked would have been ok.
Doesn't even make any sense
This one no pray at all, yet she get miracle. So, wetin we go come talk now? https://www.nairaland.com/8047000/miracle-baby-woman-gets-pregnant
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by Kobojunkie: 2:27am On Apr 01
pendragonbladgo:
Lols, some who are even graduates will believe ohhhh, chaiii... Black man na black man
MIracles do happen https://www.nairaland.com/8047000/miracle-baby-woman-gets-pregnant

The problem is the many claims coming out of the mouths of Nigerians, even the ones that are hosted by this Jerry Eze man, we no dey hear of them anywhere else except for their shows, how come? undecided

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Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by JooEeL(m): 3:24am On Apr 01
IMASTEX:

God doesn't need any human either to promote miracle especially pinning His wonder to any individual or denomination. Christ & others in the Bible days performed verifiable miracles which led to the massive follower-ship. The man born blind was well known, etc. What people are saying is that such kind of miracle should naturally go viral through the hospital. Recently, a US man married a conjoined twin with two heads. It was the media that blow the amazement not some few circle under any form.
I believe in miracles & I know God do answers prayers especially the one said by yourself in faith.

And who told u there was a blind man that was well known and his eyes got restored? That led to "mass" followership? Who told u that?

If it was so massive, how come xtianity makes up such a little percentage of the population in Israel, the supposed birthland of Jesus?
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by Rolings: 3:48am On Apr 01
ednut1:
Miracles happen sometimes. But no pastor has power to make it happen . None of these pastors could heal mr ibu, amaechi the actor, yinka ayefele, cobhams etc. we too mumu for this country 🤣

Or they can simply go to disabled people's homes to heal the cripples there

Yeye

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Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by joseph1832(m): 4:39am On Apr 01
FxMasterz:


There are numerous miracles happening there. This one is just one in a thousand. The church does not announce its miracles to the world. They're common place. Bloggers hyping one particular miracle does not mean the church is hyping it.
Imagine this nonsense. Yet we watch the church perform miracles on TV almost like everyday, and you're typing the emboldened?

You're not serious.

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Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by pek(m): 7:53am On Apr 01
mikemike50:
Op should have contacted the child mother for Verification instead. The OP contacted a Muslim to verify a miracle perform in a Christian church and called it fake. Why don't go with all the news channel and interview the child mother.
Don't bring religious bias into this. Your problem is that the person contacted is a Muslim. You would have believed the story is fake if he is a Christian. Don't go that way. You can do your own verification and tell us. Verification must include the hospital and the medical personnels
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by jaephoenix(m): 7:54am On Apr 01
FxMasterz:


And, you're the omniscient who knows who's lying?

Was this thread open to promote God in the first place?
Mister, did you read this?

Personally, I do not like to leave stories like this unverified and seeing that Nigerians do not really take it upon themselves to very such stories, I decided to speak to Dr. I. B. Babaniyi. He's the Chief Consultant Paediatrician/Cardiologist at the Joyland Medical Centre and Children's Hospital, Valencia Garden Estate, Dakwo - Abuja.

I tasked him with the job of verifying this Glorious Medical Breakthrough.

I was hopeful, seeing the handle the story was coming from but, I was disappointed when he called back and said he spent 3 minutes speaking with the CMD of the National Hospital, Abuja. Professor Mahmud Raji.

To cut the long story short... There is no record of such medical condition/breakthrough at the National Hospital, Abuja.

In his words "Madam Tinuke, you are a scholar now. I'm surprised you're asking these questions. Let me tell you Tinuke, if something like this ever happens, it'd be plastered on the front page of every newspaper globally. He then giggled and said,.. I'm sorry Madam Tinu but this didn't happen at the National Hospital. Pls disregard!"

For more details, pls contact National Hospital Abuja on +2348097520012 or contact@nationalhospital.gov.ng

I know I might probably get blocked or unfollowed, which is totally fine BTW.


Anyway, as a physician I'm tired of saying this, if things like healings/miracles etc happened in hospitals, we'd be the first to let the whole world know. It would be good business for the hospital, especially in Nigeria where people are religious. The hospital would put up the narrative of 'God is working miracles through us'. More patients, more benjamins. But they don't happen. Never happened.
I was waiting to see the ultrasound scan or MRI of the abdomen confirming the 'miracle'. But nothing like that. Enenche is a physician. At least he should know what investigations to show the world his 'miracle' was real but he didn't do it.
But there are more cretards in Nigeria than smart folks so… Dimwits like you would believe it
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by jaephoenix(m): 7:57am On Apr 01
Kobojunkie:
MIracles do happen https://www.nairaland.com/8047000/miracle-baby-woman-gets-pregnant

The problem is the many claims coming out of the mouths of Nigerians, even the ones that are hosted by this Jerry Eze man, we no dey hear of them anywhere else except for their shows, how come? undecided
Kobo did you read this article at all? It wasn't a miracle. Africans really have mental reading disabilities
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by nedekid: 8:24am On Apr 01
KnownUnknown:


Keep my username out of your simple rabid mind please.
Lol
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by BALLOSKI: 8:33am On Apr 01

To the amazement of the Professor & his team they found what they had never heard of or seen ever before in Medical Science; they saw 2 kidneys on the right (the damaged one & a new one that wasn’t there before) alongside the normal left kidney, making it 3 kidneys in total.

Ah Ahn...
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by Emeskhalifa(m): 8:51am On Apr 01
FxMasterz:


I was in the church in 2017, and by virtue of what I know of the church, they won't peddle lies.

Sigh cry

So let's say this is a court case, you think judge will believe your' I believe they won't peddle lies'? No verification nothing, just believe? It is well.
Have a wonderful day sir.

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Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by writeprof(m): 9:20am On Apr 01
Kobojunkie:
You folks and quoting Scripture blindly. That man in John did not go seeking pastors or anyone to heal him; he didn't even have faith at all in Jesus Christ since he never heard of Jesus Christ. Yet that man was healed by Jesus Christ, an example to show you don't need a pastor or other gods of men to be healed by Jesus Christ and there are lots of documented examples miracles out there. https://www.nairaland.com/8047008/woman-ovaries-removed-learns-one

You have not said anything. Work on your own relationship with your God if you have any at all.
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by PropertyBuying(f): 12:56pm On Apr 01
jmoore:


This why I said you should learn to read. Someone went to a hospital to verify the claims. Go and read the post again and stop being defensive.
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by riczy(m): 9:24pm On Apr 01
tobenuel:
Happy Birthday, Age gracefully, more wealth and life upon you.

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Baba nothing day happen ohh, no money am a Pg student

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Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by jaephoenix(m): 11:18pm On Apr 01
FxMasterz:


Of cause, no individual eats from a prison business. We can go to prisons without anyone feeling threatened.

We go to hospitals to pray for people who invite us only. No minister would go to hospital to do mass healing services there. Hospitals for doctors and churches for pastors. Everything has its order. We're not disorderly in God's Kingdom!
Even the pastors still don't heal anyone they are invited to pray for in the hospitals. So what's your point?
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by Slimplush: 10:59am On Apr 02
[quote author=ednut1 post=129198462]Miracles happen sometimes. But no pastor has power to make it happen . None of these pastors could heal mr ibu, amaechi the actor, yinka ayefele, cobhams etc. we too mumu for this country
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by FxMasterz: 7:05am On Apr 04
jaephoenix:

Even the pastors still don't heal anyone they are invited to pray for in the hospitals. So what's your point?

That's not correct!
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by FxMasterz: 7:08am On Apr 04
joseph1832:
Imagine this nonsense. Yet we watch the church perform miracles on TV almost like everyday, and you're typing the emboldened?

You're not serious.

Fake pastors do miracles for show. Real pastors don't.

If you watch Dunamis for example, you'll be watching their full services. When it's prayer time, then you can see whatever happens during the prayers too. When it's testimony time, you can hear testimonies too. But the service itself is not centered on miracles.
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by jaephoenix(m): 5:57pm On Apr 04
FxMasterz:


That's not correct!
Ok. Quote the hospital and city, and I'd verify.
Like I keep on telling you, if things healings/miracles etc happened in hospitals, we'd be the first to let the whole world know. It would be good business for the hospital, especially in Naija where people are religious. The hospital would put up the narrative of 'God is working miracles through us'. More patients, more benjamins. But they don't happen. Never happened
But there are more cretards in Naija than smart folks so…
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by jaephoenix(m): 5:58pm On Apr 04
FxMasterz:


Fake pastors do miracles for show. Real pastors don't.

If you watch Dunamis for example, you'll be watching their full services. When it's prayer time, then you can see whatever happens during the prayers too. When it's testimony time, you can hear testimonies too. But the service itself is not centered on miracles.
Has any of the 'miracles' been verified?
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by jaephoenix(m): 2:07pm On Apr 18
FxMasterz:


That's not correct!
Please give me examples of folks that got healed, whether in the hospital or elsewhere.
Remember I'm a physician, before blowing any lies
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by jaephoenix(m): 2:09pm On Apr 18
foleskay:
Miracle has been happening since the day if Jesus Christ. So its a non brainer. My issue is d way some pastors openly display their own miracle healing and chasing clout with it like d Christ Embassy. Miracle happens spontaneouly and not something u stage or arranged undecided
Example of the miracles

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