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Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by Funflipper: 7:26pm On Mar 31
FxMasterz:


What stops the non members from coming to church for healing or should the church go and interfere with doctors" businesses?

But how does going to hospitals to pray for the sick interfere with the doctor's business? On the contrary, they will be welcome with open arms.
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by FxMasterz: 7:28pm On Mar 31
LoudlyMouthed:
You must be benefiting from their table.

It's why you do not have any scriptural backup for all your comments. Same way the MOG cannot.

It's a business venture not religious gathering.
Give us scan result

Before d miracle showing 2 kidneys (1bad, 1good)
After d miracle showing 3 kidneys πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ€£

Benefiting from which table?

Okay, I now understand that I'm communicating with one of those Christians who believe that miracles died with the apostles, there's nothing like Holy Spirit baptism with the evidence of tongues, and a lot of unscriptural assumptions they call doctrines.

Are we discussing scriptures here that you're asking me for scriptural backups? Read all my posts and arguments on this forum, you would discover that I back every Bible based arguments with scriptures. Or, do you want me to be quoting scriptures to unbelievers who don't even know God. How would quoting scriptures to unbelievers prove that the miracle happened?

If you want Biblical explanations for these things, I'll be obliged. I would also take you into my own practical experiences of the miraculous. I would be ready to demonstrate the power of God to you if need be, according to the grave that is given unto me.
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by FxMasterz: 7:29pm On Mar 31
Funflipper:


But how does going to hospitals to pray for the sick interfere with the doctor's business? On the contrary, they will be welcome with open arms.

Doctors eat from people's sicknesses. You can't enter a hospital without permission.
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by Kobojunkie: 7:31pm On Mar 31
ejimatic:
. I know there are miracles in medicine .

1. In the USA a woman always had miscarriages.On examination the consultant found out that she had only one-sided fallopian tube Out curiosity the doctor wanted to find out the number of kidneys she had Alas ! She had one kidney. The doctor advised her on to keep her pregnancy.She later had a kidney with one-sided fallopian tube

2. In Ibadan , Oyo State,an opthalmologist has a patient with a damaged eye.In an attempt to dismiss him because of the condition of the eye, he prescribed a drug for him. 4 Four days later he came back to the doctor with his sight restored. The doctor could not believe it.


My submission is : miracles are possible in medicine and there are medical surprises and intricacies.
Here's another one of those. https://www.nairaland.com/8047008/woman-ovaries-removed-learns-one

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Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by Kobojunkie: 7:31pm On Mar 31
FxMasterz:
βˆ† Doctors eat from people's sicknesses. You can't enter a hospital without permission.
What a dumb Cop out!

https://www.nairaland.com/8047008/woman-ovaries-removed-learns-one
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by LoudlyMouthed: 7:34pm On Mar 31
FxMasterz:
Or, do you want me to be quoting scriptures to unbelievers who don't even know God. How would quoting scriptures to unbelievers prove that the miracle happened?

If you want Biblical explanations for these things, I'll be obliged. I would also take you into my own practical experiences of the miraculous. I would be ready to demonstrate the power of God to you if need be, according to the grave that is given unto me.
in this very case, why had you not?
Ogbeni it's all necessary for the "unbelievers"

You wan talk about your God you no get evidence. Are we fools?

See, miracles will continue to happen till thy kingdom come. Cos na from God.

Not from Daddy GO
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by Emeskhalifa(m): 7:39pm On Mar 31
FxMasterz:


Facts are streamed live. Go to any Dunamis branch and watch it live. You can request video taped of miracles. Visit them in Abuja. I have done that already.

Don't stay in one corner of your room and start streaming 'fake miracles' without verification.

There are many fake miracles and fake ministries out there but Dunamis isn't one of them.


Sorry to say ooo. Dem dey ask u say u meet the individuals wey come testify follow them reach hospital to verify? Why una dey fall hand easily like this na
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by LoudlyMouthed: 7:41pm On Mar 31
And those abradabash bruhaha bandwidth you are getting intoxicated with while in trans.. go and find out from your founding fathers if it ever has meaning

It's all lies lies + lo ri ro
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by Nteogwuija(m): 7:42pm On Mar 31
FxMasterz:


Doctors eat from people's sicknesses. You can't enter a hospital without permission.

But you conveniently go to correctional centers to pray for convicts.

Besides, anyone can visit anyone in a hospital, as long as you pass security checks.

So you want to tell me that if Enenche decides to go for a humanitarian visit at the general hospital in Abuja, the doctors would object and say he's coming to remove food from their table?
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by LoudlyMouthed: 7:42pm On Mar 31
Emeskhalifa:



Sorry to say ooo. Dem dey ask u say u meet the individuals wey come testify follow them reach hospital to testify? Why una dey fall hand easily like this na
As in
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by LoudlyMouthed: 7:43pm On Mar 31
Nteogwuija:


But you conveniently go to correctional centers to pray for convicts.
i tire ooo
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by LoudlyMouthed: 7:45pm On Mar 31
FxMasterz:


FactsLies are streamed live...
shocked

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Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by LoudlyMouthed: 7:48pm On Mar 31
Did the hospital in Abuja deny d "claim"?
Or yours s also a faith building miraculous healing grin
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by naija4life247: 8:24pm On Mar 31
The only miracle I will believe from yhe Dunamis fraudster is if Peter Agulu Giringori Obituary is sworn in as President on May 29th 2023 through a backdate of the world's calendar
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by caye(m): 8:27pm On Mar 31
StUriah:
I believe in God, the same way I believe in miracles.


But, I detest Abracadabra forms of miracles
being practice in Africa, particularly in Nigeria.

Come to think of it, has Jesus abandoned other continents to favour the black men with miracles?

Why is miracles not being advertised in Israel, Vatican City, Europe, America, Asia, and the rest of the world?

It seems the black man is closer to God than other race.

I also hope you know that statistically, the type of poverty being experienced does not OCCUR in any continent again in the world.
We are on our own.

"How can you be proud of a country that hasn't had electricity for the past 60yrs?" - Mazi Nnamdi Kanu.
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by FxMasterz: 8:32pm On Mar 31
Nteogwuija:


But you conveniently go to correctional centers to pray for convicts.

Besides, anyone can visit anyone in a hospital, as long as you pass security checks.

So you want to tell me that if Enenche decides to go for a humanitarian visit at the general hospital in Abuja, the doctors would object and say he's coming to remove food from their table?


Of cause, no individual eats from a prison business. We can go to prisons without anyone feeling threatened.

We go to hospitals to pray for people who invite us only. No minister would go to hospital to do mass healing services there. Hospitals for doctors and churches for pastors. Everything has its order. We're not disorderly in God's Kingdom!
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by FxMasterz: 8:36pm On Mar 31
Emeskhalifa:



Sorry to say ooo. Dem dey ask u say u meet the individuals wey come testify follow them reach hospital to verify? Why una dey fall hand easily like this na

I'm not the creator of the thread. My position is based on my personal experiences only.
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by FxMasterz: 8:38pm On Mar 31
Kobojunkie:
What a dumb Cop out!

https://www.nairaland.com/8047008/woman-ovaries-removed-learns-one

I told you to surrender your life to Christ and go for deliverance. Have you done that?
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by FxMasterz: 8:40pm On Mar 31
Funflipper:


But how does going to hospitals to pray for the sick interfere with the doctor's business? On the contrary, they will be welcome with open arms.

That's where doctors make money.

No doctors don't welcome anyone with open arms, who has come to deprive them of their earnings. A hospital is a business place, not a miracle ground.
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by Funflipper: 8:41pm On Mar 31
FxMasterz:


Doctors eat from people's sicknesses. You can't enter a hospital without permission.

A big name like dunamis will be granted permission without any hassle. Besides, we have goverment run hospitals where doctors earn their salaries even if the wards are empty so that should not be enough reason for dunamis not to reach out to sick people in hospitals.
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by FxMasterz: 8:45pm On Mar 31
Funflipper:


A big name like dunamis will be granted permission without any hassle. Besides, we have goverment run hospitals where doctors earn their salaries even if the wards are empty so that should not be enough reason for dunamis not to reach out to sick people in hospitals.

Hospitals are not miracle grounds.

Miracles happen by faith, and there are spiritual laws to follow. If Dunamis would invade hospitals, they must work according to the rules. God does not condone disorderliness.
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by Kobojunkie: 8:45pm On Mar 31
FxMasterz:
βˆ† I told you to surrender your life to Christ and go for deliverance. Have you done that?
You and your many dumb cop outs! https://www.nairaland.com/8047008/woman-ovaries-removed-learns-one

FxMasterz:
βˆ† Hospitals are not miracle grounds. Miracles happen by faith, and there are spiritual laws to follow. If Dunamis would invade hospitals, they must work according to the rules. God does not condone disorderliness.
See how dem take know them. This one even believes in the myth of miracle grounds... embarassed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed embarassed
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by FxMasterz: 8:46pm On Mar 31
Kobojunkie:
You and your many dumb cop outs! https://www.nairaland.com/8047008/woman-ovaries-removed-learns-one

Proofs that you really need deliverance. Go get delivered, and also give your life to Christ.
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by tkgindofa(m): 9:12pm On Mar 31
Go and do your own miracle and stop making research on people's miracles credibility please. Leave such to God and don't bring curse upon your self and family.
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by Emeskhalifa(m): 9:22pm On Mar 31
FxMasterz:


I'm not the creator of the thread. My position is based on my personal experiences only.

Ok so from your personal claim, after they gave testimony at the Church, you followed them to the hospital to verify if what they said the Church was nothing but the truth?
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by ALLNIGERIANSMAD(m): 9:27pm On Mar 31
naptu2:


Here's another one that has a problem with reading.
you were advertising religion when you were caught, you are trying to sugarcoat it by insulting people that they can't comprehend reading. You are a fraudster
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by FxMasterz: 9:47pm On Mar 31
Emeskhalifa:


Ok so from your personal claim, after they gave testimony at the Church, you followed them to the hospital to verify if what they said the Church was nothing but the truth?

I was in the church in 2017, and by virtue of what I know of the church, they won't peddle lies.
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by Kobojunkie: 9:48pm On Mar 31
joseph1832:
Pless I am a man and I take exception to the emboldened.

You should have said "the foolishness of church goers". πŸ‘Œ

Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by joseph1832(m): 10:41pm On Mar 31
FxMasterz:

I was in the church in 2017, and by virtue of what I know of the church, they won't peddle lies.
so how come the church have not posted facts to back up this so called miracles?

I mean, there should be hospital reports, scans, test, xray and the likes. Don't you think so?
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by FxMasterz: 10:54pm On Mar 31
joseph1832:
so how come the church have not posted facts to back up this so called miracles?

I mean, there should be hospital reports, scans, test, xray and the likes. Don't you think so?

There are numerous miracles happening there. This one is just one in a thousand. The church does not announce its miracles to the world. They're common place. Bloggers hyping one particular miracle does not mean the church is hyping it.
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by Kobojunkie: 11:03pm On Mar 31
Numerous miracles happening in that church every day yet to this very day not a single of them are we able to find posted facts on. Isn't that the most unbelievable thing you have ever heard in your whole life abeg? undecided

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