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Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by onecansee: 2:20pm On Mar 31
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Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by Paramount01(m): 2:21pm On Mar 31
Kobojunkie:
na so we dey hear stories of miracle wombs to replace surgically removed wombs, miracle kidneys to replace surgically removed kidney, and so on and so forth but no matter how much you search Google, you no go find even one hospital or tabloid sef wey carry the news. Even the hospitals wey dem talk say the thing happen for no dey even get news. Even Christian news channels outside of the particular church group no dey carry the news of the miracle? Why? How? We no know. When you talk say something no add up, dem go talk say you no believe in miracles be the problem. lipsrsealed lipsrsealed embarassed


But the information and the hospital is mentioned for you to go and varify, if you still doubting the power of God, go and verify
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by hslbroker2(m): 2:22pm On Mar 31
I always believe there is miracle, before and now and tomorrow there will always be.

That is not a problem.
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by Paramount01(m): 2:22pm On Mar 31
LordReed:


Here and still unimpressed. It's easy to tell stories but when we ask for verification na dat time agbada go hook wire.

But the pics of the boy and the result of the kidney is their for you
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by Paramount01(m): 2:23pm On Mar 31
foleskay:
Miracle has been happening since the day if Jesus Christ. So its a non brainer. My issue is d way some pastors openly display their own miracle healing and chasing clout with it like d Christ Embassy. Miracle happens spontaneouly and not something u stage or arranged undecided


Did Jesus miracle happen instantaneously?
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by FxMasterz: 2:23pm On Mar 31
BrighterSyde:


Thank you so much for this clarification.
So these miracles that are streamed live have you seen anyone who’s limb has been replaced live? Or maybe someone who had a visible tumor that disappeared? I’m not talking about miracles like someone sitting on a wheelchair but suddenly stands up. If you have evidence of these it will go a long way in silencing those doubters

Please visit the church yourself and verify. I was in Dunamis in 2017 to see things for myself. You can do the same.
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by FxMasterz: 2:24pm On Mar 31
Pootle:


yinka ayefele never still waka undecided

Would you tell me which man of God he has visited for prayers?
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by Trustedpronet: 2:24pm On Mar 31
The good news is that they later went for the surgery to remove the bad one...the miracle couldn't finish the job. Kudos to those medical personnel.

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Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by Paramount01(m): 2:25pm On Mar 31
ednut1:
Miracles happen sometimes. But no pastor has power to make it happen . None of these pastors could heal mr ibu, amaechi the actor, yinka ayefele, cobhams etc. we too mumu for this country 🤣



Those ones that happen sometimes, who did God now make it happen
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by Geovanni412(m): 2:27pm On Mar 31
LordReed:


Here and still unimpressed. It's easy to tell stories but when we ask for verification na dat time agbada go hook wire.

Here is the most probable outcome

The boy probably had 3 kidneys

But the doctors were unaware of it the first time he went there

There are cases like that. see:
https://www.news18.com/news/buzz/kanpur-man-has-3-kidneys-doctors-say-its-rare-but-nothing-to-worry-5817307.html

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Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by Dumbochristian: 2:27pm On Mar 31
They wouldn't believe you, even if they hear it directly from the doctor that the claim is false.

Nigeria ln Christians will never see the light..they are scared of men like them that claim to hear directly from God...what a pity.

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Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by Geovanni412(m): 2:30pm On Mar 31
FxMasterz:


Please visit the church yourself and verify. I was in Dunamis in 2017 to see things for myself. You can do the same.

The boy probably already had 3 kidneys

The condition is called supernumerary kidney.

This medical condition has been known as far back as 1911: see https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1288870/

And recently, someone in India was reported to have three functioning kidneys:
https://www.news18.com/news/buzz/kanpur-man-has-3-kidneys-doctors-say-its-rare-but-nothing-to-worry-5817307.html

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Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by Roger3D(m): 2:31pm On Mar 31
naptu2:
DON "Tobechukwu" Ade @Row_Haastrup

Absolute nonsense and garbage
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by Inosky(m): 2:31pm On Mar 31
Dem do Africa strong thing that even in 21st century a lot of people are still being deceived.

I believed God can do wonders but many African pastors are using manipulative/fake miracles to gain members and attention and deceive the unsuspecting.

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Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by Image123(m): 2:32pm On Mar 31
Even Jesus miracle caused controversies, it is not new. However, churches should do more due diligence before jumping at miracles. There are real miracles and fake ones, just like any original has fake. Satan is not sleeping, let's bruise that his bruised head further.

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Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by Boldideas: 2:32pm On Mar 31
naptu2:
DON "Tobechukwu" Ade @Row_Haastrup


When Eneche shout "The devil is a liar through that mic, the conspiracy will disappear"!!!
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by correctguy101(m): 2:33pm On Mar 31
ednut1:
Miracles happen sometimes. But no pastor has power to make it happen . None of these pastors could heal mr ibu, amaechi the actor, yinka ayefele, cobhams etc. we too mumu for this country 🤣

Everything's already a miracle. It happens every time.

The order in chaos and the chaos in order is one of the biggest miracles that continues to amaze this ancestor.

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Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by IMASTEX: 2:35pm On Mar 31
OMBIIGA:
Let us be very cautious with our comments. Miracle it self is God supernatural intervention in human affairs.
It's behind logic and human understanding!!
God doesn't need any human either to promote miracle especially pinning His wonder to any individual or denomination. Christ & others in the Bible days performed verifiable miracles which led to the massive follower-ship. The man born blind was well known, etc. What people are saying is that such kind of miracle should naturally go viral through the hospital. Recently, a US man married a conjoined twin with two heads. It was the media that blow the amazement not some few circle under any form.
I believe in miracles & I know God do answers prayers especially the one said by yourself in faith.
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by OBoy50: 2:38pm On Mar 31
God's miracle is real and I believed and received.
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by HRMK: 2:40pm On Mar 31
YESWITH GOD,NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE!BUT ONE NEEDS TO BE EXTRA CAREFUL WHEN IT COMES TO CLAIMS FROM NIGERIAN PASTORS!!
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by Ubanz: 2:40pm On Mar 31
Cock and bull stories.

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Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by InvertedHammer: 2:43pm On Mar 31
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What's the big deal?

Claims of miracles in Nigeria are only targeted at particular audience--obligate morons.

Rational humans need not bother themselves with those fairy tales.

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Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by nairalanda1(m): 2:47pm On Mar 31
Yep, ask them to tell you the name of the hospital, abuse results.

There was no miracle. It was a pleasant lie cheesy

See how we damage the good name of the Lord in the name of worshipping miralces

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Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by Vinnie2000(m): 2:48pm On Mar 31
Macnnoli4:
Not Eneche abeg. I remember my mom once saw TB Joshua's broadcast, she was immediately uncomfortable with it and hasn't watch a TB Joshua's broadcast ever since. That was few years before he died. Eneche is one of the pastors her spirit is comfortable with. Anyway, I am waiting to see the end of this.

Your Mum had Negative Bias for TB Joshua, maybe because of some things Pple said about him. undecided

Otherwise, Enenche is not different from him.

These Pastors are not all that Different from eachother. smiley

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Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by Pimine: 2:48pm On Mar 31
jmoore:


This why I said you should learn to read. Someone went to a hospital to verify the claims. Go and read the post again and stop being defensive.
Bro, they said the miracle happened in 2017. This woman made a call which lasted for 3 minutes in 2024 and came to the conclusion with the help of a Muslim CMD that it never happened. Is the CMD the same one that was there in 2017? Do they still have the records. Does this sound like a thorough investigation to you?

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Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by nairalanda1(m): 2:48pm On Mar 31
Kobojunkie:
na so we dey hear stories of miracle wombs to replace surgically removed wombs, miracle kidneys to replace surgically removed kidney, and so on and so forth but no matter how much you search Google, you no go find even one hospital or tabloid sef wey carry the news. Even the hospitals wey dem talk say the thing happen for no dey even get news. Even Christian news channels outside of the particular church group no dey carry the news of the miracle? Why? How? We no know. When you talk say something no add up, dem go talk say you no believe in miracles be the problem. lipsrsealed lipsrsealed embarassed

Or you have little faith
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by naptu2: 2:51pm On Mar 31
BrighterSyde:
The woman investigating has backed down

Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by FxMasterz: 2:52pm On Mar 31
Geovanni412:


The boy probably already had 3 kidneys

The condition is called supernumerary kidney.

This medical condition has been known as far back as 1911: see https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1288870/

And recently, someone in India was reported to have three functioning kidneys:
https://www.news18.com/news/buzz/kanpur-man-has-3-kidneys-doctors-say-its-rare-but-nothing-to-worry-5817307.html


There was an X-ray before the doctors recommended an operation. Don't you think they would have seen the 3rd kidney before they made the second X-ray? Or which doctor recommends surgery before taking a look at the inside of a body?
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by nairalanda1(m): 2:52pm On Mar 31
Pimine:

Bro, they said the miracle happened in 2017. This woman made a call which lasted for 3 minutes in 2024 and came to the conclusion with the help of a Muslim CMD that it never happened. Is the CMD the same one that was there in 2017? Do they still have the records. Does this sound like a thorough investigation to you?

Hospitals keep records for a very long time, old chap.

Yes, National hospital has the records from 2017 and even all records from its founding till date.

They are not foolish to dump such records.

Also, such a breakthrough would have been widely reported in the medical papers if it happened

The miracle did not happen. Simple.

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Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by nairalanda1(m): 2:53pm On Mar 31
Paramount01:



But the information and the hospital is mentioned for you to go and varify, if you still doubting the power of God, go and verify

Someone went and verified it did not happen

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Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by nairalanda1(m): 2:55pm On Mar 31
Geovanni412:


Here is the most probable outcome

The boy probably had 3 kidneys

But the doctors were unaware of it the first time he went there

There are cases like that. see:
https://www.news18.com/news/buzz/kanpur-man-has-3-kidneys-doctors-say-its-rare-but-nothing-to-worry-5817307.html


It would have been found before the operation
Re: Dunamis: Miracle Claim Causes Controversy by BrighterSyde: 3:05pm On Mar 31
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Yes. Saw all these. Maybe now that it’s here she might pick it up again. I saw her tweet where she said she was dropping it

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