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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by 50d33q: 1:14pm On Apr 18, 2022
Haha they lost the entire defense, then the midfielders are the one playing defense.
Lfc no lose only vvd, the season went down because the midfielders that was protecting the defence were now playing defense
Make we post legit stuff
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 1:18pm On Apr 18, 2022
I support Arsenal not a freaking coach, at the height of Wenger’s dominance and success, when the fans were done with it, they let him know because no one is bigger than the club, so who is Arteta that should not catch sticks?

He was hired to do a job and in his 3rd year, there is no clarity regarding the club but of course questioning the golden child is abominable because he is the 2nd coming of Marcelo Lippi. He has been excused and anyone who calls him out is seen as an enemy of the club. I have been consistent about my position even before he was hired and the streaks.

I don’t care about the hate, Arsenal matters to me now and in the future. We did not tolerate this much from Ebening, even though that one nearly sent us to the Championship but has Arteta not done same? No one expected us to flirt with top 4 but when you watch the implosion going on especially as this stage of this season, then it’s deja vu all over again.

I have seen enough to know we are not going anywhere with Arteta especially if you are looking to match up against the others for top 4 consistently.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by 50d33q: 1:19pm On Apr 18, 2022
Moreover it's arsenal FC not partey FC
Why his injury affect defense that was winning us games, we should be drawing with CS instead of losing
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 1:22pm On Apr 18, 2022
Spy360:

Isn't it enough that when you lose your best player, be it in attack or defense, it's going to affect the whole team?

If I tell you that the problem of this team is not personnel but psychology you will not accept. This team is mentally affected by the loss of two good starters. Hopefully they will get over that mental block and find a way to push themselves into winning again.

When Mostob brought his formation options, I told him as it stands the major problem is not formation but mentality. I saw that clearly. This was what also affected City, though they cope better because they have other very good players to rely on.
When did it affect City?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 1:24pm On Apr 18, 2022
grin

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jencejyde(m): 1:27pm On Apr 18, 2022
Nothing beats right mentality and attitude on match day. I was watching Real Madrid vs Sevilla the other day. This was a team that just played a gruelling encounter vs Chelsea to qualify for the next phase of the champions league and were losing 2 0 away to Sevilla. The most inspiring part was that they even had a goal rulled out by var but rather than moan or complain about it. They just kept at it and ended up winning that match 3 2.

It was same benzema, modric vicinius et all that put their bodies on the line with little or no recovery time to go out there and deliver yet another performance.

That win ultimately takes care of Laliga.

Our players really do not know what is at stake and I'm not sure even the coaching staff has what it takes to get them over the line.

Why should we still be talking about leadership almost 13 years going now? Can the club not really look into their recruiting to see how they can not only buy quality but also the one that possess leadership qualities in lieu of eradicating the problem or leadership completely?

Well for now it's just to enjoy the games and hope for the best even though imho getting top four or even deserving it on evidence of our performances lately is not justifiable.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 1:28pm On Apr 18, 2022
BlueRayDick:


Loserpool lost Van Djik to injury last season and their whole season went down the drain. That's loserpool that had more quality players than arsenal o.

A struggling arsenal lost partey our most crucial player and Midfield wins u league agenda ressurects on Easter Monday. No be juju be that?
This is false. Liverpool lost van dijk in Oct abi Nov and they were still in 1st or 2nd position even at January. Their downward spiral started when the lost their defensive line which made klopp started using Midfielders as CBs.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 1:31pm On Apr 18, 2022
Jodera:
When did it affect City?

Is arsenal the same as city that has 1 billions pounds worth of players in its books?

Arsenal that signed Martinelli Nobodynho just, signed pepe just to pay his sign on fee over a number of years, etc..... U expect that arsenal to be compared to City àbí?

The problem I always have with most arsenal fans is they fail to see the decline over a number of years beginning from Wenger's later years to the present and they expect a miracle to happen such that arsenal will compete favorably with their "contemporaries"

We were all here when teams that were not near the traditional top4 were building up for the future and our board was slumbering busy doing business Koreonke way. Now we suddenly expect a rookie manager to buy all needed players within a year or two and compete with the so called "contemporaries"

Is that playing? What sort of playing is that? grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 1:33pm On Apr 18, 2022
Jodera:
This is false. Liverpool lost van dijk in Oct abi Nov and they were still in 1st or 2nd position even at January. Their downward spiral started when the lost their defensive line which made klopp started using Midfielders as CBs.

Lolz. If Van Djik was fit will the coach use midfielders as CB? Especially when he signed a CB in January....Will he still use Fabinho as CB if Van Djik was fit between January that he signed a CB and May when the league was completed?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 1:45pm On Apr 18, 2022
50d33q:
I thought every player in the squad is replaceable
Why are we losing grin
Lol, na here I dey wey I bring Partey as example but they say anybody can replace anybody afterall no be under structure we dey?. Now it happened, e don turn to "Partey na our best player so everybody must be down" like say na Partey FC.

I brought logical reasons why our team is floundering, the least that could be done is to bring up facts maybe formation wise or sort on why it's not due to Partey's quality dem dey shout agenda. Like who gives a hell about agenda when our team is failing?

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 1:50pm On Apr 18, 2022
BlueRayDick:


Lolz. If Van Djik was fit will the coach use midfielders as CB? Especially when he signed a CB in January....Will he still use Fabinho as CB if Van Djik was fit between January that he signed a CB and May when the league was completed?
he was using Gomez and Matip in CB positions and they were winning matches and topping table. They lost momentum when both Matip and Gomez had injury and Midfielders was drafted in their place.

That's different from you saying ONLY van dijk had injury and their season spiralled down
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 1:53pm On Apr 18, 2022
Jodera:
Lol, I've always known it's midfield and attack that help most teams at least become stable, but that's not why I brought the piece sha. I just brought it up to show why arsenal is really misfiring in all departments and no suitable quality isn't at our disposal making the hole Partey left too too big to fill and the possible solution to save our season. Sadly elneny na another minus 1.

God bless that cazorla coquelin partnership. I've never enjoyed any midfield partnership like that for a long while even tho it lasted for just 6months. Na after that I know say Wenger na bad belle wen the next season he pushed coquelin to play advanced role and Xhaka dmf grin. Since then we never smell top 4 grin

Correction tho, the keeper during that partnership was ospina not sczcz....

I still dey wonder how we thrived with mertesacker for years knowing how snailish he was grin. I swear, I mertesacker dey this team now eh, na cricket scores every week we for dey count grin
It's about partnership and team structure. White and Gabriel were called up to their national teams because of their performance but since Partey got injured, they have become ordinary. Rammy was behind only Elderson in he race for golden boot but baba don swallow 6 goals in 3 games now. Everything boils down to Midfield...If your Midfield is balanced and solid, even Maguire will win best defender I. EPL.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 1:53pm On Apr 18, 2022
BlueRayDick:


Is arsenal the same as city that has 1 billions pounds worth of players in its books?

Arsenal that signed Martinelli Nobodynho just, signed pepe just to pay his sign on fee over a number of years, etc..... U expect that arsenal to be compared to City àbí?

The problem I always have with most arsenal fans is they fail to see the decline over a number of years beginning from Wenger's later years to the present and they expect a miracle to happen such that arsenal will compete favorably with their "contemporaries"

We were all here when teams that were not near the traditional top4 were building up for the future and our board was slumbering busy doing business Koreonke way. Now we suddenly expect a rookie manager to buy all needed players within a year or two and compete with the so called "contemporaries"

Is that playing? What sort of playing is that? grin
Why are you countering me bros na grin.

I think this should be directed to Spy not me. I strictly talked arsenal but he said Man city had same Psychological issues as us and suffered but quickly recovered cos of their quality in players.

So hence my question to him ... When did it happen to city cos I don't seem to remember.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by 50d33q: 1:56pm On Apr 18, 2022
Jodera:
Lol, na here I dey wey I bring Partey as example but they say anybody can replace anybody afterall no be under structure we dey. Now it happened, e turn say Partey na our best player so everybody must be down like say na Partey FC.

I brought logical reasons why our team is floundering, the least that could be done is to bring up facts maybe formation wise or sort on why it's not due to Partey's quality dem dey shout agenda. Like who gives a hell about agenda when our team is failing?
Like Roland said everything is agenda
We win DWYL
We lose MWYL
Whereas the bigger picture is the coach that is clueless since over 3 years now buying more and more defenders
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 1:56pm On Apr 18, 2022
BlueRayDick:


Loserpool lost Van Djik to injury last season and their whole season went down the drain. That's loserpool that had more quality players than arsenal o.

A struggling arsenal lost partey our most crucial player and Midfield wins u league agenda ressurects on Easter Monday. No be juju be that?
And Klopp sharply got Konate. I'm waiting for how our summer transfer window will go
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 1:57pm On Apr 18, 2022
50d33q:
Haha they lost the entire defense, then the midfielders are the one playing defense.
Lfc no lose only vvd, the season went down because the midfielders that was protecting the defence were now playing defense
Make we post legit stuff
Exactly. Na Van-dijk propagandists naim go dey talk say Liverpool slump last season was because of his injury. Now it's circling as truth.

People wey las las make top 3 with freaking Nathaniel Philip and kabak. grin

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by 50d33q: 2:02pm On Apr 18, 2022
mostob:
It's about partnership and team structure. White and Gabriel were called up to their national teams because of their performance but since Partey got injured, they have become ordinary. Rammy was behind only Elderson in he race for golden boot but baba don swallow 6 goals in 3 games now. Everything boils down to Midfield...If your Midfield is balanced and solid, even Maguire will win best defender I. EPL.
Thank you very much
Kokane and I even used vvd and koulibally as example because those 2 are rock at the back
We told everyone is midfield is bad even the world best defenders will concede stupid goals that was where they started calling mustafi and the rest clowns.
Who will play behind xhaka or Leno and not concede stupid goals.
This same mustafi played with Martinez and a better midfield in 3 straight Europa without conceding 1 goal
No be JuJu be that

Funny enough, we now have new set of clowns in Gabriel and white because they are conceding stupid goals and Gabriel is now making silly errors mustafi was criticized for.
Now we need new set of CB

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 2:03pm On Apr 18, 2022
This mentality problem started during Wenger's latter years when he stopped grooming warriors and started grooming commodities.
After that 6-0 loss against Chelsea that came after Mourinho called Wenger a specialist in failure, one of the invincible, Henry maybe, said Arsenal lacked leadership and the right mentality because how can a team walloped you 6-0 after insulting your manager.
Bergkamp said the same thing days ago.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by 50d33q: 2:04pm On Apr 18, 2022
Jodera:
Exactly. Na Van-dijk propagandists naim go dey talk say Liverpool slump last season was because of his injury. Now it's circling as truth.

People wey las las make top 3 with freaking Nathaniel Philip and kabak. grin
Where that kabak they sef
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 2:05pm On Apr 18, 2022
mostob:
It's about partnership and team structure. White and Gabriel were called up to their national teams because of their performance but since Partey got injured, they have become ordinary. Rammy was behind only Elderson in he race for golden boot but baba don swallow 6 goals in 3 games now. Everything boils down to Midfield...If your Midfield is balanced and solid, even Maguire will win best defender I. EPL.
Exactly the bolded. Thank you.,
but if we talk dem go shout agenda must agend

I just have to write what I wrote and if it favours Midfield, fine. It won't stop me from saying it how it is.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 2:06pm On Apr 18, 2022
50d33q:

Where that kabak they sef
Norwich oo. Norwich wey dey swallow goals anyhow this season.
Tho he's on injury now
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 2:06pm On Apr 18, 2022
Now, we have a lot of young players starting for us and managed by a rookie. None even knows what it means to win the big prizes. grin grin

The board better starts going for matured players if Arteta is still planning to continue.

The shoulders of these youngies are too frail to carry arsenal problem
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by 50d33q: 2:08pm On Apr 18, 2022
mostob:
This mentality problem started during Wenger's latter years when he stopped grooming warriors and started grooming commodities.
After that 6-0 loss against Chelsea that came after Mourinho called Wenger a specialist in failure, one of the invincible, Henry maybe, said Arsenal lacked leadership and the right mentality because how can a team walloped you 6-0 after insulting your manager.
Bergkamp said the same thing days ago.
There's no way I will forgive that foolish old man for what he did to this club
Evra will mock us before games and after games because he knows they will always win
Look at that waste life in Watford too deeney mocking us

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 2:10pm On Apr 18, 2022
50d33q:

Thank you very much
Kokane and I even used vvd and koulibally as example because those 2 are rock at the back
We told everyone is midfield is bad even the world best defenders will concede stupid goals that was where they started calling mustafi and the rest clowns.
Who will play behind xhaka or Leno and not concede stupid goals.
This same mustafi played with Martinez and a better midfield in 3 straight Europa without conceding 1 goal
No be JuJu be that

Funny enough, we now have new set of clowns in Gabriel and white because they are conceding stupid goals and Gabriel is now making silly errors mustafi was criticized for.
Now we need new set of CB
That's the truth. I remember mentioning something like this when the debate was going on here. Wenger continually make top 4 even with Giroud in the front and Per at the back because he has a strong Midfield. Forget defence and attack, Midfield is the foundation of every team.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by 50d33q: 2:11pm On Apr 18, 2022
Jodera:
Norwich oo. Norwich wey dey swallow goals anyhow this season.
Tho he's on injury now
Maybe we should buy him grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 2:12pm On Apr 18, 2022
50d33q:

Like Roland said everything is agenda
We win DWYL
We lose MWYL
Whereas the bigger picture is the coach that is clueless since over 3 years now buying more and more defenders
grin grin grin

I think Arteta biggest mistake was not strengthening in Jan this season. The big contrast between our midfield and attack bench to the starting lineup is very wide. Same can't be said for defence.

We dey complain for Partey now, if Saka go injury (God forbid) and Pepe replaces him and start playing his usual nonsense, you'll hear how it's the team that's being affected by Saka that's causing it. So the team is affected psychologically
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 2:13pm On Apr 18, 2022
50d33q:

There's no way I will forgive that foolish old man for what he did to this club
Evra will mock us before games and after games because he knows they will always win
Look at that waste life in Watford too deeney mocking us
grin grin
That period na torture. Some unknown player go mock us and still whip us on matchday.
I don't know where Wenger got it wrong. He was the one that formed the invincible for God's sake.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by 50d33q: 2:15pm On Apr 18, 2022
Jodera:
grin grin grin

I think Arteta biggest mistake was not strengthening in Jan this season. The big contrast between our midfield and attack bench to the starting lineup is very wide. Same can't be said for defence.

We dey complain for Partey now, if Saka go injury (God forbid) and Pepe replaces him and start playing his usual nonsense, you'll hear how it's the team that's being affected by Saka that's causing it. So the team is affected psychologically
His biggest mistake is his ego, I still don't trust that man
He strike me like a snake, bloody pretender we only know what we see.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by 50d33q: 2:17pm On Apr 18, 2022
mostob:
grin grin
That period na torture. Some unknown player go mock us and still whip us on matchday.
I don't know where Wenger got it wrong. He was the one that formed the invincible for God's sake.
Power drunk
He got us Emirates stadium then he started acting like our lord and saviour controlling everything even disrespected fans

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 2:18pm On Apr 18, 2022
50d33q:

Like Roland said everything is agenda
We win DWYL
We lose MWYL
Whereas the bigger picture is the coach that is clueless since over 3 years now buying more and more defenders

O Lord of Agenda! Your children have gathered this morning because every Agenda must Agend and be respected.

I belong to the DWYL group but now we desperately need to update our midfield and attack.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 2:19pm On Apr 18, 2022
Jodera:
he was using Gomez and Matip in CB positions and they were winning matches and topping table. They lost momentum when both Matip and Gomez had injury and Midfielders was drafted in their place.

That's different from you saying ONLY van dijk had injury and their season spiralled down

How u chose to interprete my post is the problem here. I didn't use the word "only” in my post ( it’s still there, u can check it ).

They lost Van Djik for the whole season and they paid heavily for it. Even when other CB options were available Van Djik who happens to be their best player in previous seasons as recognized by PFA , UEFA and even Balon D’or ( he placed second ) was not available for selection and it is one of the major reasons they ended up how the way they ended.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by 50d33q: 2:20pm On Apr 18, 2022
Roland17:


O Lord of Agenda! Your children have gathered this morning because every Agenda must Agend and be respected.

I belong to the DWYL group but now we desperately need to update our midfield and attack.
But this attack have been carrying us until partey got injured grin
Jodera and I still argue midfield is scoring more goals than attack

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