Islamic view is extremely problematic. It requires us to believe that God deceived billions of people. God even led Jesus’ followers astray by tricking so many people into believing that Jesus died. This could have been avoided if God hadn’t been so intent on deceiving people. But this leads to more questions: Why would God want people to believe that Jesus was dead when he really wasn’t?

If Islam is true, God deceives people who believe the prophets he sends. If Islam is true, God spreads false teachings until they become dominant in the world. If Islam is true, Jesus, the Messiah, was completely incompetent and should never have been sent by God, since Jesus’ life ended up leading more people astray than any other life in history.

Now, if Satan wants to keep people from God, and if the way
to God is through Jesus Christ, what would Satan’s highest
priority be? His main goal wouldn’t be to get people to lead
immoral lives (though he would prefer that we do, since this
corrupts God’s created order); instead, his primary aim would
be to incite people to reject Christ, for this rejection is what
keeps them separated from God.
But how would Satan convince people to reject Christ? We
should note here that there are plenty of people in the world
who simply don’t care about God. Satan doesn’t have to worry
about them, because they aren’t interested in salvation anyway.
Since his goal is to keep as many people from God as possible, we would expect Satan to be more
focused on people who are to some extent concerned with
religious matters. There are two
ways to keep such people from God. Satan would either have to convince them that all “religious talk” is nonsense (i.e. by
spreading secularism, which we see around the world) or he would have to offer them a substitute for the truth (i.e. a
religion that rejects what is necessary for salvation).

Islamic view is extremely problematic. It requires us to believe that God deceived billions of people. God even led Jesus’ followers astray by tricking so many people into believing that Jesus died. This could have been avoided if God hadn’t been so intent on deceiving people. But this leads to more questions: Why would God want people to believe that Jesus was dead when he really wasn’t?

If Islam is true, God deceives people who believe the prophets he sends. If Islam is true, God spreads false teachings until they become dominant in the world. If Islam is true, Jesus, the Messiah, was completely incompetent and should never have been sent by God, since Jesus’ life ended up leading more people astray than any other life in history.

bashy_demy:

^^^ Well said bro may Almighty Allah increase your knowledge

plappville:

Why do u people believe u are chating with kids in NL? allah was blind to fight against himself? Ve the boko bomb a Mosque in Nigeria? [/b]Last christmas eve was same bombing issue that killed almost 35 persons.
[b]Boko is islam, Islam can't kill Islam.

bashy_demy:

Madam with those bolds am sorry to call you an Allien where were you on Dec 11 2011 When BH bomb mosque in Sapele?

http://www.nigeriancompass.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=9211:boko-haram-bombs-mosque-in-sapele-over-preaching-in-english-language&catid=54:nigeria-today&Itemid=594

The Police chief said that he had personally visited the scene and he found out that it was not really a bomb.

What could have led to the early morning blast was still unclear as at press time, but sources said that it might be connected to internal wrangling in the mosque over worship doctrine.

plappville:

U said in the other thread that it was Christians that bomb the Sapele mosque, now that u ve traced a link that states it was Boko, u ve come up with it to suit your claim. I must tell u that your claims are false still did not bomb any mosque in Sapele, Islam cannot fight a mosque. The link @goggs gave u was the good one.

plappville:

@bashy_demy , i just view the link. I said it that it cant be Boko, it was not concluded as u mentioned here.

See what the Police commisional said.: only one person was injured , will islam bomb islam NO.

Allah sent another prophet after Jesus in the name of Muhammad (sa).but he was rejected up to this day by christians like the jews also reject Jesus (as) up to this day after Moses.

so really,those who staunchly refuse to believe that Jesus did not die should explain to us why they keep insisting he died.

Judek2:


Try and make your point straight.
Who is that question directed to?

Judek2:

Where was the Prophesy of Mohammad made of him?
When and where did God promise another saviour.(Anyway, Allah is not God)

bashy_demy:

John 14:16:

   16And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;


  That should answer your question

frosbel:

^^^^

Bible is corrupt.

Abeg leave our corrupt bible alone , Jo.

proo212:

Baaassshhhyyyy Deeemmmmmyyyyyy! I thought we clarified this John 14. Bear in mind that Apostle John wrote the Gospel according to John and the book of Revelations. Exegesis of both book does not reveal the coming of another prophet. Your prophet was not prophesied in the bible.

The comforter which is the spirit of truth that Christ promised was given in the book of Acts 1 and the same spirit of truth showed John the Apostle the things which were to come in the book of revelations.

How then is your prophet the spirit of truth? Or are you holding on to Ahmed Deedat's explanation of the "He" appearing 8 times in John 14 which can only mean Mohammed because a spirit cannot be He. The funny thing is, he actually got it wrong depending on which translation you read, "He" came up between 4 and 7 times but that is just nitpicking (irrelevant). The people who were baptised with the spirit of truth in Acts 1 were definitely not expecting another prophet and the people who are being baptised today with that spirit of truth are being strengthened because they just get confirmation that Jesus is Lord because that same spirit bears witness with their spirit that they are children of God.

frosbel:

^^
Oh Common , but Muhammad is the comforter in the corrupt Injil right, Muhaha

LagosShia:

your admission that Muhammad (sa) was not prophesied in the bible can turn out to be the biggest flaw of the bible.whether Muhammad (sa) is right or wrong,something ought to have being mentioned there.when we search the bible all we see are traces pointing to the veracity of Muhammad (sa).

"The Fifth Kingdom(of God) In The Bible Prophecy Of The Book "DANIEL 2" Is Islam"!
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-772940.0.html

"The New Islamic Nation In Undeniable Bible Prophecies"
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-820160.0.html

Jesus said that it was "expedient" for him to go so that the comforter would come.that if he does not go the comforter would not come.for you to interprete comforter as "holy spirit" you must either be very deceitful or very ignorant of the bible.before Jesus,the holy spirit was present.during Jesus' days it was present.after Jesus' it was present.i can bring you verses where the holy spirit was there and known to b"e  the divine will and force for enlightenment,guidance and the delievery of divine messages and inspiration.so how then can Jesus say if he does not go the holy spirit will not come when the holy spirit was already there if you are to interprete the word "comforter"as holy spirit"?

LagosShia:

the Injil is not corrupt;the bible is.

the bible (new testament) contains Injil (teachings of Jesus and the revelation given to Jesus).but not everything in the New Testament is Injil.Injil is not the same thing as "bible" in Islam.it is arab christians who refer to the entire bible as "Injil" which is translated in english as "evangel".

"False Prophecies Of The New Testament" (bible)
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-550247.0.html

frosbel:

So where is the Injil my confused friend

Surely Muslims must have preserved the original Injil somewhere safe and secure, except of course ALLAH was not all seeing and so could not prevent the corruption and loss of the Injil.

LagosShia:

the injil is what God revealed to Jesus and everything inspired unto him from "the Father" as you refer to God.

so it is best you ask Jesus:where is the "injil" and where did he preserve it?

Jesus said that it was "expedient" for him to go so that the comforter would come.that if he does not go the comforter would not come.for you to interprete comforter as "holy spirit" you must either be very deceitful or very ignorant of the bible.before Jesus,the holy spirit was present.during Jesus' days it was present.after Jesus' it was present.i can bring you verses where the holy spirit was there and known to b"e the divine will and force for enlightenment,guidance and the delievery of divine messages and inspiration.so how then can Jesus say if he does not go the holy spirit will not come when the holy spirit was already there if you are to interprete the word "comforter"as holy spirit"?

proo212:

@Lagosshia, the cherry picking of scriptures and quoting out of context again. When you were quoting the John 16:7 you obviously did not read up till verse 13 that says "But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come".

Did your Mohammed prophesy? Did your Mohammed guide into all truth? Did Mohammed speak what he heard from God?

plappville:

Muhammed was not Holy, so this verse has nothing to do with him. He was a wild man, all he taught his followers is to be wild, this alow contradict Jesus. He was adultrous, Murderer etc. So he cant fits in as the comforter and correcter to the truth. Recieve Christ and get baptised, u will then understand what the comforter means.