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Poll: Are you in support of male circumcision? Would you circumcise?

Yes: 91% (142 votes)
No: 8% (13 votes)
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Re: I Won't Circumcise My Baby Boy (If Any) by theboy0808(m): 7:37am On Oct 04, 2007
Why shouldn't a male child be circumcised. Its very uncivilized to even think about it. Have you ever seen an uncircumized male? His extrenal Instruments looks like diseased carrots for crying out bloody loud!

But in the case of female circumcision, anyone caught perpetrating such act should be sent to KIRIKIRI MAXIMUM PRISON!

I was circumsized before i knew the difference between my nose and mouth, and I think it's the best solution, 'cause circumsizing a full grown man is tantamount to asking to committing suicide!

If I had a male child I would circumsize him when he is about 7 - 21 days old.
Re: I Won't Circumcise My Baby Boy (If Any) by seun001(m): 7:58am On Oct 04, 2007
ok,am wondering why uncircumcised males are not used it pornographic films hmmm.
Re: I Won't Circumcise My Baby Boy (If Any) by Nannu(f): 8:03am On Oct 04, 2007
Hmm it's nonesense that you suffer from not having a circumcation, If that was the case, most European population would be suffering right now.
In my country they circumcise only for medical reasons (such as too tight foreskin etc, ) , I dont see the difference one way or another, Do it, if it pleases you, don't do it if you don't want to.
Re: I Won't Circumcise My Baby Boy (If Any) by sniperwolf(m): 8:10am On Oct 04, 2007
Re: I Won't Circumcise My Baby Boy (If Any) by vescucci(m): 9:16am On Oct 04, 2007
Goddamit! I can't believe this. You're fighting a 'cause' because some Jewish person was 'forced' to circumcise his kid? Did someone put a gun to his head? Or did they threaten to freeze his bank account? Circumcision is an integral part of Jewish culture and Islam for that matter. I don't know whether Christians are at liberty or whatever. But from a secular point of view, it looks better circumcised. I have only seen a boy not circumcised once and I thought he had a disease or something. Don't fight another person's war, man. Your kid'll kick your ass in old age if you don't circumcise him.

Now if you wanna fight female circumcision, that's a fairly honorable cause. Nobody wants to spoil the joys of sex for the ladies and it will be up to her to keep her urges under wraps when she grows up. But the male foreskin serves no known purpose except to make your pecker look like a ram's.

I hope [/i]you're[i] circumcised, Seun.

I really do!
Re: I Won't Circumcise My Baby Boy (If Any) by Aladunni(f): 10:09am On Oct 04, 2007
vescucci:


I hope [/i]you're[i] circumcised, Seun.

I really do!

He is
Re: I Won't Circumcise My Baby Boy (If Any) by theboy0808(m): 10:49am On Oct 04, 2007
@Aladunni
How you take know say hin don circumcise?
Abiii?

@Seun, Poster, Owner Nairaland.com

Genesis 17:11
You are to undergo circumcision, and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and you.
NIV

Acts 7:8
Then he gave Abraham the covenant of circumcision. And Abraham became the father of Isaac and circumcised him eight days after his birth. Later Isaac became the father of Jacob, and Jacob became the father of the twelve patriarchs.
NIV

Romans 2:25-29

25 Circumcision has value if you observe the law, but if you break the law, you have become as though you had not been circumcised. 26 If those who are not circumcised keep the law's requirements, will they not be regarded as though they were circumcised? 27 The one who is not circumcised physically and yet obeys the law will condemn you who, even though you have the written code and circumcision, are a lawbreaker.

28 A man is not a Jew if he is only one outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical. 29 No, a man is a Jew if he is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a man's praise is not from men, but from God.
NIV

Romans 2:28-3:2

28 A man is not a Jew if he is only one outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical. 29 No, a man is a Jew if he is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a man's praise is not from men, but from God.


Romans 3

3:1 What advantage, then, is there in being a Jew, or what value is there in circumcision? 2 Much in every way! First of all, they have been entrusted with the very words of God
NIV

Colossians 2:11
In him you were also circumcised, in the putting off of the sinful nature, not with a circumcision done by the hands of men but with the circumcision done by Christ,
NIV

Need I say more?!
Re: I Won't Circumcise My Baby Boy (If Any) by Bamiprof(m): 11:23am On Oct 04, 2007
@ theboy0808
Nice Quotes
Re: I Won't Circumcise My Baby Boy (If Any) by Olusleeky(m): 11:24am On Oct 04, 2007
wow
Re: I Won't Circumcise My Baby Boy (If Any) by CrazyMan(m): 11:45am On Oct 04, 2007
Seun,

Circumcision is biblical; God himself made it clear to us that parents must circumcise their male child. And I suppose you’re a Christian so understanding that shouldn’t be very difficult.

Also Circumcision reduces the risk of HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases; you may say that you would bring up your children in a Godly manner; but you never can tell the kind of friends they might be habouring. So in order to protect the lives of your children, it’s good that the parents themselves play their cards well.

And finally you should respect the moral of your child; how would that child feel when he grows up only to find that he’s the only male who isn’t circumcised; he would feel depressed and believe me such a person wouldn’t respect you the father. He would be ashamed to approach a woman because he would feel that if she knows that he isn’t circumcised, she might make a mockery of him.

So I would suggest that you ask the ladies in here if they would date a or marry a guy who isn’t circumcised; before you make up your mind of not circumcising your male children.
Re: I Won't Circumcise My Baby Boy (If Any) by Aladunni(f): 11:50am On Oct 04, 2007
theboy0808:

@Aladunni
How you take know say hin don circumcise?
Abiii?


very simple, considering the year he was born, parents were not crazy yet

@ crazykid

you are not new here why do you write to seun like that. He is not a God person
Re: I Won't Circumcise My Baby Boy (If Any) by CrazyMan(m): 12:12pm On Oct 04, 2007
@Aladunni

Am just advising him; he’s our admin and we all want the best for him
Re: I Won't Circumcise My Baby Boy (If Any) by TawaTemi1(f): 12:23pm On Oct 04, 2007
No long story!
Let all the Uncircumcised guys make a nooooooooooooiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiseeeee.
Lets see if they are cool with it, period!
Re: I Won't Circumcise My Baby Boy (If Any) by FufuKing1(m): 12:25pm On Oct 04, 2007
More quotes from the Bible:

Romans 3:29-30


Does God belong to the Jews alone?  Is he not also the God of the
Gentiles?  Yes, of the Gentiles, too.  It is the same God who justifies
the circumcised and the uncircumcised on the basis of faith.

Romans 4:9-12

Does this blessedness apply only to the circumcised, or to the
uncircumcised as well?  For we say that Abraham's faith was "credited as
justice."  What were the circumstances in which it was credited?  Was
it after he was circumcised or before?  It was before.  In fact, he
received the sign of circumcision as a seal attesting to the justice
received through faith while he was still uncircumcised.  Thus he was to
be the father of all the uncircumcised who believe
, so that for them too
faith might be credited as justice, as well as the father of those
circumcised who are not merely so but who follow the path of faith which
Abraham walked while still uncircumcised.


THIS PASSAGE IN THE BIBLE MAKES IT VERY CLEAR THAT CIRCUMCISION IS NOT THE CHRISTIAN THING TO DO:

1 Corinthians 7:18-19

Was someone called after he had been circumcised?  He should not try to
hide his circumcision.  Did the call come to another who had never been
circumcised?  He is not to be circumcised.  Circumcision counts for
nothing, and its lack makes no difference either.
What matters is keeping
God's commandments.

CIRCUMCISION IS NOT A CHRISTIAN THING. PERIOD.
Re: I Won't Circumcise My Baby Boy (If Any) by TawaTemi1(f): 12:27pm On Oct 04, 2007
No long story!
Let all the Uncircumcised guys make a nooooooooooooiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiseeeee.
Lets see if they are cool with it, period!
Re: I Won't Circumcise My Baby Boy (If Any) by Aladunni(f): 12:31pm On Oct 04, 2007
Fufu King:

More quotes from the Bible:


CIRCUMCISION IS NOT A CHRISTIAN THING. PERIOD.


i said so lipsrsealed



















flees to religion
Re: I Won't Circumcise My Baby Boy (If Any) by FufuKing1(m): 12:34pm On Oct 04, 2007
This is the beautiful circumcised penis you all are talking about?

undecided

http://www.circumstitions.com/Restric/Botched1sb.html

http://www.noharmm.org/IDcirc.htm
Re: I Won't Circumcise My Baby Boy (If Any) by FufuKing1(m): 12:36pm On Oct 04, 2007
Whoever said that you never see uncircumcised men in pornos, lol. You clearly don't know much about the normal penis. The foreskin pulls back when the p.enis is erect, so you wouldn't be likely to tell the difference unless the camera zoomed in.

Ignorance is bliss, o.
Re: I Won't Circumcise My Baby Boy (If Any) by Shinatu: 1:50pm On Oct 04, 2007
Thank God someone said circumcision is not a christian thing.
Some people still think they are doing it for religion(Christianity)!

I am also happy that this is being discussed because many people in Nigeria think it is
absurd not to circumcise a male child just because it is not common around here.

I get upset when people say something is abnormal for no reason other than the fact that they are not familiar with it.

Uncircumcised male organ is ugly to you because you have been seeing circumcised ones all your life! another person may see the circumcised one as ugly too.

It is the same way you may not fancy a white woman because she does not have 'ikebe' and a white man may not fancy a black woman because she has thick lips anda flat nose.

Does it mean the two are ugly?

By the way I have a circumcised son and it was my decision based on many things but I respect the decision of any other parent be it for/against circumcision.


So please think beyond the limitations of your environment.
Re: I Won't Circumcise My Baby Boy (If Any) by Fikzy(f): 2:10pm On Oct 04, 2007
The story in this link may change your opinion,

http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/1998/10/26feature.html
Re: I Won't Circumcise My Baby Boy (If Any) by Fikzy(f): 2:50pm On Oct 04, 2007
@seun
ok,am wondering why uncircumcised males are not used it pornographic films hmmm.

I have actually seen a Indecency with an uncircumcised dude, it sucks, worsts of all, the chikala was working on the dick while its still sleeping, you can imagine, groese.ese. se.e es^&$E%
Re: I Won't Circumcise My Baby Boy (If Any) by FufuKing1(m): 3:02pm On Oct 04, 2007
Shinatu:

Thank God someone said circumcision is not a christian thing.
Some people still think they are doing it for religion(Christianity)!

I am also happy that this is being discussed because many people in Nigeria think it is
absurd not to circumcise a male child just because it is not common around here.

I get upset when people say something is abnormal for no reason other than the fact that they are not familiar with it.

Uncircumcised male organ is ugly to you because you have been seeing circumcised ones all your life! another person may see the circumcised one as ugly too.

It is the same way you may not fancy a white woman because she does not have 'ikebe' and a white man may not fancy a black woman because she has thick lips anda flat nose.

Does it mean the two are ugly?

By the way I have a circumcised son and it was my decision based on many things but I respect the decision of any other parent be it for/against circumcision.


So please think beyond the limitations of your environment.






Here, here! I applaud your post whole heartedly. Finally, some common sense.
Re: I Won't Circumcise My Baby Boy (If Any) by akinst: 3:03pm On Oct 04, 2007
It is a poll alright.But whats the use of a poll thats not guided by hard facts.The facts here are overwhelming.Simply incontrovertible.I am talking about the medical facts.It is simple-the health of the uncircumcised individual is greatly and perpetually compromised throughout life with the continue presence of the ugly fore-skin.
So,the big question?What is the basis for the argument?Argument only arises when issues are subjects to differing opinion based on differing backgrounds and prejudices.Definitely not one that will call public health to question.It is like questioning the old simple practice of wash-hands-b4 meals,when u can freely do otherwise.This borders on hygiene my people.It is not a subject for controversy.What on earth made it so in the first place?
Re: I Won't Circumcise My Baby Boy (If Any) by FufuKing1(m): 3:03pm On Oct 04, 2007
Fikzy:

@seun
I have actually seen a Indecency with an uncircumcised dude, it sucks, worsts of all, the chikala was working on the privates while its still sleeping, you can imagine, groese.ese. se.e es^&$E%
Are you bipolar or do you have a split personality disorder??  

You just posted an article about how bad circumcision is and now you're talking about how ugly and dirty the uncircumcised penis is?
Re: I Won't Circumcise My Baby Boy (If Any) by FufuKing1(m): 3:05pm On Oct 04, 2007
akinst:

It is a poll alright.But whats the use of a poll thats not guided by hard facts.The facts here are overwhelming.Simply incontrovertible.I am talking about the medical facts.It is simple-the health of the uncircumcised individual is greatly and perpetually compromised throughout life with the continue presence of the ugly fore-skin.
So,the big question?What is the basis for the argument?Argument only arises when issues are subjects to differing opinion based on differing backgrounds and prejudices.Definitely not one that will call public health to question.It is like questioning the old simple practice of wash-hands-before meals,when u can freely do otherwise.This borders on hygiene my people.It is not a subject for controversy.What on earth made it so in the first place?

And where, praytell, are your facts, my friend?

All men are born and created with the foreskin. Man has lived for thousands of years with the foreskin intact. Rome conquered the world and its men were not circumcised.

Europe and Latin America do not routinely circumcise their men and they have lower rates of HIV and STDs than Africa as a whole. So exactly what facts, what hygeine, and what science are you basing this on?

You see what I said about the circumcised male's defense mechanism to desperately rationalize this procedure? Sad.
Re: I Won't Circumcise My Baby Boy (If Any) by Fikzy(f): 4:08pm On Oct 04, 2007
Fufu King
Are you bipolar or do you have a split personality disorder??

You just posted an article about how bad circumcision is and now you're talking about how ugly and dirty the uncircumcised privates is?

The argument in the story i posted is strong i agree.

Still, I appreciate my parents for Circumsing my dick. I cant imagine what gig i would have become if my dick had a fore skin, ehew, Its a phycological thing attached to culture & religion and society, it goes a long way to affect the way we live.
Re: I Won't Circumcise My Baby Boy (If Any) by FufuKing1(m): 4:15pm On Oct 04, 2007
Fikzy:

Fufu King
The argument in the story i posted is strong i agree.

Still, I appreciate my parents for Circumsing my privates. I can't imagine what gig i would have become if my privates had a fore skin, ehew, Its a phycological thing attached to culture & religion and society, it goes a long way to affect the way we live.

Well, I hope you aren't a hypocrite then, and do not criticise female circumcision, as that too is rooted in tradition, culture and society.
Re: I Won't Circumcise My Baby Boy (If Any) by mimiko(f): 4:23pm On Oct 04, 2007
@ tawa temi
thank u i bet if any one of them ve the guts to open up they will rather say they did not make the choice
and to fufu king talking about ignorance i think u display it more circumcision is nt just traditional,
Re: I Won't Circumcise My Baby Boy (If Any) by Fikzy(f): 4:24pm On Oct 04, 2007
@Fufu King
The story in this link may change  your opinion,

http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/1998/10/26feature.html

Did you read what i said?
The story in this link may change  your opinion

I dont remember sounding critical. I read the story and the argument was strong, so i decided Niralanders might look at the cercumcision thing from another point of view. shikena.
Re: I Won't Circumcise My Baby Boy (If Any) by FufuKing1(m): 4:26pm On Oct 04, 2007
Fikzy, I was just pointing out that if you're in favor male circumcision because it is rooted in culture, religion and (nigerian) society, you cannot discount female circumcision then, as it has mainly the same roots. That's all.
Re: I Won't Circumcise My Baby Boy (If Any) by FufuKing1(m): 4:34pm On Oct 04, 2007
[size=16pt]Did you know?[/size]

That in a study conducted in Ibadan, Nigeria, there was a complication rate of 20.2 percent on all the male circumcisions performed?

Complications included: redundant foreskin, excessive skin, skin bridges, amputation of glans (the head of the p.enis!), buried p.enis, hemorrhage

The study is included in this report, it's called Okeke et. al : http://www.biomedcentral.com/content/pdf/1471-2490-7-4.pdf

Can someone explain to me, why they're okay with continuing the practice of male circumcision, with a 20.2 percent complication rate, which includes amputation of the glans? How is that not mutilation?
Re: I Won't Circumcise My Baby Boy (If Any) by seun001(m): 5:18pm On Oct 04, 2007
Fufu King:

Whoever said that you never see uncircumcised men in pornos, lol. You clearly don't know much about the normal privates. The foreskin pulls back when the p.enis is erect, so you wouldn't be likely to tell the difference unless the camera zoomed in.

Ignorance is bliss, o.

oga,i know an uncircumsized organ when i see one.comes to questions if u have actually watched pornos b4.

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