Khanben:



With due respect to Magic. He is not equipped to run basketball operations in a NBA team. He is more like an owner type of person. A president of a NBA team has to be more hands on than he ever was. Travel to watch player in dingy gyms (at college or in Europe), watch films, read scouting reports, improve player development staff etc. All of these Magic failed to do.
how it became Lebron's fault I don't understand.

A40:
Player development? Name one player that was developed while playing in a team assembled for LeNomad. That one is mission impossible. Everything is geared towards getting stars to play with him right now so this whole idea of scouting, development flew out the window the minute LeNomad was coming

This is not solely about Magic. There is more than enough blame to go around. Though I agree he made numerous unpardonable gaffes evaluating personnel but some of these gaffes were based on pressure and the need to get instant impact players or players that fit with LeNomad

It's about the fact that half the team was going to be traded at Midway point. Who instigated that? The uncertainty in the franchise with the coaching and the younger players from the all Star break to the trade deadline. Whose advisor set those wheels in motion? There is no way you can tell me LeBron played no role in this mess. Not hearing that. Sorry

ReysonDrabek:


Kyrie went from all star to elite guard with lebron because kyrie is the truth. Not everyone is kyrie. But heres a better thought, name one young player that improved playing for the lakers? russell left and is balling, so is randle. The lakers at heart cant seem to develop young players.

[s]Not solely on magic because pressure? excuse me isnt the job of a GM to build a team around their best player? if thats too much pressure, building a team that can win with the best player in the world then you have no business being a GM. That goes for pelinka as well, i hope they trade lebron or he gets sacked. Imagine thinking lebron can chase magic out of the lakers?

Who instigated it? LOL! are you kidding me? its not magic, pelinka or any of the front office, of course its lebron who instigated it because hes the GM like you ingenuous dweebs like to believe.

You goofballs like to say lebron never takes the blame when he loses, but somehow even when grown men do dumbshit and pay for it, when grown men make decisions. Its always lebrons fault[/s].

hoopLA:

Ogbeni keep kwayet.


When Kyrie won All Star MVP, he wasnt elite? Or when he was Rookie of the Year? Or when he was FIBA MVP in 2014? All before LeBron returned with his drama.

All this megedefegede like eedris abdulkarim doesnt make you know jack§hit.

Omo get your tongue out of LeBum's arse. I know its so far up in there, you can taste what he had for breakfast. Kyrie was already the truth before LeBitch came back with his drama.

ReysonDrabek:


Kyrie went from all star to elite guard with lebron because kyrie is the truth. Not everyone is kyrie. But heres a better thought, name one young player that improved playing for the lakers? russell left and is balling, so is randle. The lakers at heart cant seem to develop young players.

Not solely on magic because pressure? excuse me isnt the job of a GM to build a team around their best player? if thats too much pressure, building a team that can win with the best player in the world then you have no business being a GM. That goes for pelinka as well, i hope they trade lebron or he gets sacked. Imagine thinking lebron can chase magic out of the lakers?

Who instigated it? LOL! are you kidding me? its not magic, pelinka or any of the front office, of course its lebron who instigated it because hes the GM like you ingenuous dweebs like to believe.

You goofballs like to say lebron never takes the blame when he loses, but somehow even when grown men do dumbshit and pay for it, when grown men make decisions. Its always lebrons fault.

SmooshCHN:
All I know is, LeGM didn't force Magic Johnson to resign. He also didn't make Luke Walton quit. It's just the normal pressure LeBron brings. Those guys including Rob Pelinka owe it to themselves for not doing anything. Anyways, Bron and the players as well have their faults but the front office was a mess to begin with. Magic's job ended when LeBron signed with the Lakers.

SmooshCHN:
All I know is, LeGM didn't force Magic Johnson to resign. He also didn't make Luke Walton quit. It's just the normal pressure LeBron brings. Those guys including Rob Pelinka owe it to themselves for not doing anything. Anyways, Bron and the players as well have their faults but the front office was a mess to begin with. Magic's job ended when LeBron signed with the Lakers.

hoopLA:

Ogbeni keep kwayet.


When Kyrie won All Star MVP, he wasnt elite? Or when he was Rookie of the Year? Or when he was FIBA MVP in 2014? All before LeBron returned with his drama.

All this megedefegede like eedris abdulkarim doesnt make you know jack§hit.

Omo get your tongue out of LeBum's arse. I know its so far up in there, you can taste what he had for breakfast. Kyrie was already the truth before LeBitch came back with his drama.

A40:
Kyrie? Lmaooo. He was a star even while having to deal with Dion Waiters being his second best player. That's how good everyone knew Kyrie was so he doesn't count

Kuzma, Randle, Ingram were doing pretty ok. All they needed was time which the Lakers understandably did not have but LeNomad's arrival disrupts all probability of these players having a fair chance to develop. How can they improve? When they are not sure they won't be traded. Denying that LeNomad's arrival throws all development out the window is just being intellectually dishonest.

So when someone is talking about Magic not being at some obscure gym in Eastern Europe I'm wondering how many Eastern Europeans were in any of LeNomad's roster that wasn't already in the league. Cut the crap! He tried moving two lottery picks and a second year product (all with less than 3 years experience) to get an All-star and you fanboys are talking about he doesn't travel, he doesn't scout. As if these Lakers actually have the mandate to do any type of player development

Of course. The job to build around their best player is any GM's mandate. And in this instance the plan was to go via the Free agent route!

Anthony Davis joined LeNomad's proxy, LeNomad openly courted AD and LeNomad's proxy naively tried to strong arm his client's team to a trade. Of course Magic wanted to do a trade. But at whose bidding? You think Magic would try to trade half the roster including the guy he drafted and swore would have his number in the rafters if he wasn't trying to make LeNomad happy?

Lol you're a joker

ReysonDrabek:

He was a star who couldnt get into the playoffs before lebron came.

ReysonDrabek:

LOL And what did they do when lebron was absent, kuzma was bricking shots and the lakers fa.g base were asking for ingram to get traded. Somehow even without lebron playing thats lebrons fault too yes? if his arrival disrupts growth, why didnt it disrupt kyrie since he was averaging similar numbers as ingram? why did kyrie continue to grow with lebron? maybe the young guys arent as good as they thought, maybe the lakers just cant improve them. Just imagine trading D-lo, not giving randle peanut change and taking lonzo over tatum. SMH!

ReysonDrabek:

LOL so woj, one of lebrons most blatant haters because he cant get zilch on him is now a lebron fanboy because he was told magic was incompetent. Talk about moving the goal post.

ReysonDrabek:

Its not that simple. Its not all about free agents but role players as well. At the end of the day, magic still had at least another year, he didnt have to go, no one blamed him, at least not from the other side of the fence. Something happened with him jeanie and rob that he isnt saying and this is obvious. I still dont know how it is lebrons fault that he resigned.

ReysonDrabek:

Lebron only spoke about AD when it was already public knowledge. AD wanted to leave and Rich did what every agent would do. I'm sorry, does it have to be at lebrons bidding for magic to go after a top 5 player in the league? its friggin AD not some other journey man of course Magic would go after him. He was trying to do what he felt was best for the roster. Granted It blew up in his face but stop blaming lebron for it. And how do you explain the trades he did after that giving away svi and zubac? The other teams were literally laughing at him. I guess that was also at lebrons behest right?

aliondo:


These days, you just dey speak my mind dey go...
I don't need to type plenty. ..LeBron will always be LeBron. .The pressure that comes with handling LeBron will always be there. .

I remember once during an interview, Ty Lue don tire for the questions and he said shebi(literally speaking) you people (referring to the media) said LeBron is the coach, Why not ask him yourself...

A40:


Because you don't spend weeks berating your own teammates and wooing other players and be surprised your teammates are not busting their balls for you

A40:

Hahahaha you're a funny guy. Could LeNomad get into the playoffs his first two years in the league? Didn't it take the addition of Larry Hughes to help him get there?

Laughable that a young team is not expected to go through growing pains. Even the Heatles with seasoned vets didn't get it right at first try, including your LeNomad but somehow you are expecting second year pros to do so. Smh

Because Kyrie was in his 4th and 5th season. Duhhh

You're preaching to the choir. I have talked about Magic's incompetence long before it became cool to do so.

But even the role players were supposed to be to LeNomad's tastes, the complaint from LeNomad was that rather than the shooters he had at Cleveland he wanted more playmakers. It's why they got Rondo, it's why they got Stevenson.

What does it matter? If Magic didn't go Luke would have gone. Somehow someway people were going to lose their jobs. Luke was more or less doomed and setup to fail. As some NBA executives said

That speaks to his awful leadership skills. Speaking on another player that his agency represents that's still under contract on another team. From his yes man to Magic to LeNomad it was one gaffe after the other which ended up sabotaging another team's postseason chances and invariably his own.

Because you don't spend weeks berating your own teammates and wooing other players and be surprised your teammates are not busting their balls for you

donlittle25:
I don't even know

SmooshCHN:
Lue was frustrated and that's the frustration talking. I'm just surprised if the Lakers are just stupid at this point. Lue was a foot mat on the Cavs. Cavs fans and the LeStans in the media used him as an excuse when the Cavs failed. We heard about how he didn't know how to draw plays or make use of the rotations (same thing with Luke Walton) but he's now the front runner for the Lakers job. This either means he's a genius all of a sudden or he's coming because he's LeBron's guy. Same way he took over from David Blatt. A40 point makes sense now. I'm not saying Bron got Luke fired. I'm just saying his presence definitely is so strong not to make a connection to what is going on right now. You'd have to be a LeStans to not think his presence, actions or body language is not a big factor here. Cos I don't see any reason Ty Lue should be the front runner for the job if it had nothing to do with Bron. Maybe both of them are padi but Lue would be foolish to want to experience what he experienced on the Cavs.

Death, Taxes and being the scapegoat should everything go wrong when working with LeBron are constant in life. Might not be his fault but history has shown that you'd definitely be the scapegoat thanks to LeStans.

donlittle25:
I don't even know

Roland17:


You don carry come again this Saturday morning abi!!

Why una no dey compare other players? Na only Celtic players una sabi use? I guess in one way it buttresses the greatness of the team. if I come type 5 pages now to support my guy now, una go say I don come

A40:
Kyrie? Lmaooo. He was a star even while having to deal with Dion Waiters being his second best player. That's how good everyone knew Kyrie was so he doesn't count

Kuzma, Randle, Ingram were doing pretty ok. All they needed was time which the Lakers understandably did not have but LeNomad's arrival disrupts all probability of these players having a fair chance to develop. How can they improve? When they are not sure they won't be traded. Denying that LeNomad's arrival throws all development out the window is just being intellectually dishonest.

So when someone is talking about Magic not being at some obscure gym in Eastern Europe I'm wondering how many Eastern Europeans were in any of LeNomad's roster that wasn't already in the league. Cut the crap! He tried moving two lottery picks and a second year product (all with less than 3 years experience) to get an All-star and you fanboys are talking about he doesn't travel, he doesn't scout. As if these Lakers actually have the mandate to do any type of player development

Of course. The job to build around their best player is any GM's mandate. And in this instance the plan was to go via the Free agent route!

Anthony Davis joined LeNomad's proxy, LeNomad openly courted AD and LeNomad's proxy naively tried to strong arm his client's team to a trade. Of course Magic wanted to do a trade. But at whose bidding? You think Magic would try to trade half the roster including the guy he drafted and swore would have his number in the rafters if he wasn't trying to make LeNomad happy?

Lol you're a joker

ReysonDrabek:
Thats besides the obvious fact that barkley played against carpenters and interior decorators. Imagine a demar derozan dominating your era

Khanben:


Barkley played against MJ, Magic, Bird, IT, Hakeem, KAJ, the admiral to name a few in their prime. MJ's game is exactly what derozan models his after. The game then was inside out not like now which is outside in. Please stop disrespecting the Chuckster he is a legend.

Roland17:


You don carry come again this Saturday morning abi!!

Why una no dey compare other players? Na only Celtic players una sabi use? I guess in one way it buttresses the greatness of the team. if I come type 5 pages now to support my guy now, una go say I don come

ReysonDrabek:

ReysonDrabek:

Larry Hughes. LOOOOOOOOOL! The dion waiters you are making fun off is better than larry hughes. Dont compare lebrons ascendance with kyries, its not fair. Theyre not in the same league. Lebron averaged 27 7 7 in his second year then went on to average 30+ his 3rd year when they made the playoffs. Kyrie won like 30 games in his third year.

Larry hughes

ReysonDrabek:

But didnt you just literally say that young players cant grow with lebron why did kyrie grow? ooh theyre going to grow, just not now and its not lebrons fault again? stop contradicting yourself.

ReysonDrabek:

So why is it lebrons fault he got resigned not his incompetence?

ReysonDrabek:

So lukes exit is not lebrons fault like you said again? Again, stop contradicting yourself.

ReysonDrabek:

The story was already out there. Pretending you didnt want AD would just be stupid.

ReysonDrabek:

Magic said, these are grown men. If they cant handle trade talks, they shouldnt be in the NBA.

ReysonDrabek:

"bust their balls for him" LOL I forgot they were playing the NBA for lebron. How about they play and win for themselves, if you play and win because of someone else you are just a soft loser!

etidy:
Walton joining the kings, good for him