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Re: Why Is The Protest So Intense In The West And North? Why Are They Bitter? by Nobody: 7:13am On Jan 10, 2012
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Chinua Achebe Leads Nigerian Authors' Fuel Subsidy Protest

The internationally acclaimed, bestselling novelist Achebe was joined by Caine prize winner EC Osondu, Commonwealth writers prize winner Helon Habila and 35 other Nigerian authors in issuing a "Statement of Solidarity with the Nigerian People" on Sunday. Thousands of protesters have taken to the streets of Nigeria since the announcement at the beginning of the year that the country's state fuel subsidy programme would be discontinued, leading petrol pump prices to more than double to around $1 a litre.

The authors called the timing of the move "ill-advised", coming as it does shortly after a series of religiously motivated attacks on churchgoers.

"We stand with the Nigerian people who are protesting the removal of oil subsidy which has placed an unbearable economic weight on their lives. This action has clearly imposed an untenable and unfair burden on those segments of Nigerians who are already impoverished – subsisting on less than $2 a day. We call on President Jonathan to immediately change course," said the authors in their statement.

"By reverting to the old prices of petroleum products, President Jonathan can work to diffuse tension in the country and exemplify the true servant leader who not only serves but also listens to his people. To insist on having his way, and to deploy state security and legal apparati to crush growing popular uprisings is to stamp on a highly valued tenet of democracy – the right to peaceful assembly – and to inadvertently promote greater violence in the country."

because the SE and SS are populated and led by FOOLS.

what a wasted and stupid generation. look at the zero they are selling their souls and their future for. cry cry cry
Re: Why Is The Protest So Intense In The West And North? Why Are They Bitter? by Hardunnii(f): 7:18am On Jan 10, 2012
otokx:

The south south is ashamed for GEJ and we own the oil not the east so get your facts right.
Beaf told us south south is also igboland, are u rejecting them now
Re: Why Is The Protest So Intense In The West And North? Why Are They Bitter? by otokx(m): 7:22am On Jan 10, 2012
the east is igboland not the south south
Re: Why Is The Protest So Intense In The West And North? Why Are They Bitter? by abes(m): 7:29am On Jan 10, 2012
I have heard that one of reasons for fuel subsidy removal is to stop oil marketers from getting free money from the government, some even say its a way to punish the marketers. But the reality is that these marketers are still making the same amount of money (after subsidy removal).
Here is a rough breakdown;

pre-subsidy removal:
govt subsidy - N75
pump price - N65
Total - N140

post-subsidy removal:
govt subsidy - N0
pump price - N140
Total - N140

Therefore the cabals still smile to the banks while the masses suffer.

Some are even saying the marketers are instigating the nationwide protests, I ask, why would they do that when they have nothing to lose.
Re: Why Is The Protest So Intense In The West And North? Why Are They Bitter? by Hardunnii(f): 7:36am On Jan 10, 2012
otokx:

the east is igboland not the south south
I guess the ibos are just romancing u guys cos of the oil.
Re: Why Is The Protest So Intense In The West And North? Why Are They Bitter? by Johndoe100(m): 7:44am On Jan 10, 2012
otokx:

the east is igboland not the south south

Thank you my brother. They always try to blur this truth.
Re: Why Is The Protest So Intense In The West And North? Why Are They Bitter? by Beaf: 7:48am On Jan 10, 2012
Hardunnii:

Beaf told us south south is also igboland, are u rejecting them now

You see how you people tell lies? The whole of NL politics section (except donkeys) knows that I am not Igbo and I am from the SS.
Go and drink otapiapia to calm your nerves.
Re: Why Is The Protest So Intense In The West And North? Why Are They Bitter? by Hardunnii(f): 7:52am On Jan 10, 2012
Beaf:

You see how you people tell lies? The whole of NL politics section (except donkeys) knows that I am not Igbo and I am from the SS.
Go and drink otapiapia to calm your nerves.
Lol, thats what i thot
Re: Why Is The Protest So Intense In The West And North? Why Are They Bitter? by DRANOEL(m): 7:54am On Jan 10, 2012
@post
are you surprised its the north and west? well both regions have always expressed their opinions at critical times of nigeria's history little wonder they determine a lot that happens in the country! as for the wise men in the east? now you know why they are always schemed out of things! let the true cowards stand up!
Re: Why Is The Protest So Intense In The West And North? Why Are They Bitter? by Beaf: 7:56am On Jan 10, 2012
Hardunnii:

Lol, thats what i thot

Ok, please forget about the otapiapia business, I thought you were carrying out "enemy" action.
--hugs Hardunnii --
Re: Why Is The Protest So Intense In The West And North? Why Are They Bitter? by Hardunnii(f): 7:59am On Jan 10, 2012
Beaf:

Ok, please forget about the otapiapia business, I thought you were carrying out "enemy" action.
--hugs Hardunnii --
I dont need ur hug, but i can make do with oil money
Re: Why Is The Protest So Intense In The West And North? Why Are They Bitter? by ade80: 8:21am On Jan 10, 2012
Since the landing cost is actually 138, they can also decide to sell to countries like Ghana at 180 and make about 40naira per liter. So either way, the so called cabal goes free

abes:

I have heard that one of reasons for fuel subsidy removal is to stop oil marketers from getting free money from the government, some even say its a way to punish the marketers. But the reality is that these marketers are still making the same amount of money (after subsidy removal).
Here is a rough breakdown;

pre-subsidy removal:
govt subsidy - N75
pump price - N65
Total - N140

post-subsidy removal:
govt subsidy - N0
pump price - N140
Total - N140

Therefore the cabals still smile to the banks while the masses suffer.

Some are even saying the marketers are instigating the nationwide protests, I ask, why would they do that when they have nothing to lose.
Re: Why Is The Protest So Intense In The West And North? Why Are They Bitter? by efisher(m): 8:49am On Jan 10, 2012
Ok land it at N135 in Nigeria and sell at N185 in Cameroun? In that case, it's still fair and square. The difference is that FG will not pay them any money. They can make whatever profit they like by selling in Niger or wherever. In fact importing into Nigeria to sell elsewhere has in a way created job or business opportunity for someone. It's still win-win for us.
Re: Why Is The Protest So Intense In The West And North? Why Are They Bitter? by Beaf: 8:59am On Jan 10, 2012
Hardunnii:

I dont need your hug, but i can make do with oil money

Choi! Your eyes de shine wella! grin
You see why nobody is doing the right thing and protesting against corruption?

By the way, my hug is good o! Nice strong arms to make you melt. lol!
Re: Why Is The Protest So Intense In The West And North? Why Are They Bitter? by ektbear: 9:04am On Jan 10, 2012
The attempts to tribalize this are sad and pathetic.

Mark well which people are ethnicizing this issue, Nigerians (and the world at large more generally.)

They are venomous vipers.
Re: Why Is The Protest So Intense In The West And North? Why Are They Bitter? by igbonla(m): 9:15am On Jan 10, 2012
So sad people are not using their brains here, yet Okah/Tom Polo and co had to use/trust Wole Soyinka to act on their behalf during the meeting with Yar Adua.

As far as know, Yorubas would prefer and have been supporting resource control and true federalism. This is based on principles, the oil has caused more damage in the SW than benefits and it will be in the interest of SW to move away from monthly oil handouts.
Re: Why Is The Protest So Intense In The West And North? Why Are They Bitter? by emmke(m): 9:27am On Jan 10, 2012
Nchara:

No wonder both groups have misruled Nigeria and practically stole it blind. Useless, THIEVING groups.
u just move around insulting everybody at the slightest opportunity and tomorrow u'd be wondering why everyone hates u. Calling others parasites, yet millions of ur people are in the north and west, stubbornly living there even as the locals made it clear that they dont want them. Did your people sow anything there? and u have the guts to call others parasites. What a shameless hypocrite.
Re: Why Is The Protest So Intense In The West And North? Why Are They Bitter? by LogicMind: 9:32am On Jan 10, 2012
The north and the west have nothing. I mean exactly nothing. zero. dadashi. They need to pillage and steal from the east. The sad truth is that the SS because of their fear of their igbo brothers (and also beacause of foolishness beyond comprehension) carried their oil resources and gave to the malams and ofemmanus.
Now things are changing and you want the east to demostrate. Shege. Any igbo that goes into the street is either foolish or lazy. His mama needs to be investigated to know which tribe the paternity came from and send him back there.
Igbo people listen. Whether fuel = 500 or 1000 naira per litre, we will survive it. We have survived worse. In fact we will come out better from this situation because of our industrious nature. Start making plans to build refineries in the east for oil export because many many countries need am.
Leave the subsidy beggars.
Re: Why Is The Protest So Intense In The West And North? Why Are They Bitter? by LogicMind: 9:35am On Jan 10, 2012
emmke:

u just move around insulting everybody at the slightest opportunity and tomorrow u'd be wondering why everyone hates u. Calling others parasites, yet millions of your people are in the north and west, stubbornly living there even as the locals made it clear that they dont want them. Did your people sow anything there? and u have the guts to call others parasites. What a shameless hypocrite.

We will go as soon as your people agree to divide Nigeria.
If you don't need us why do you want to be with us? We have made it clear we don't want to be with you. The ball is in your court. Parasite.
Re: Why Is The Protest So Intense In The West And North? Why Are They Bitter? by emmke(m): 9:52am On Jan 10, 2012
Logic Mind:

We will go as soon as your people agree to divide Nigeria.
If you don't need us why do you want to be with us? We have made it clear we don't want to be with you. The ball is in your court. Parasite.
look at this one. A SSner can call someone parasite not u. U dont want to be with us yet u prefered to be killed in the north than leave. What a joker. Why do u like clinging to the SS? Why are u scared of standing alone? Why are u people scared of going back to the SE?. Chuku chuku dey for una land? Abegi go sidon
Re: Why Is The Protest So Intense In The West And North? Why Are They Bitter? by LogicMind: 10:20am On Jan 10, 2012
emmke:

look at this one. A SSner can call someone parasite not u. U dont want to be with us yet u prefered to be killed in the north than leave. What a joker. Why do u like clinging to the SS? Why are u scared of standing alone? Why are u people scared of going back to the SE?. Chuku chuku dey for una land? Abegi go sidon
Ewu north, nobody is clinging to anybody. The difference between you and us: We go far and wide in search of better life for ourselves. You just siddon and suck the blood out of others. Like__ em__ PARASITES!
Re: Why Is The Protest So Intense In The West And North? Why Are They Bitter? by emmke(m): 10:55am On Jan 10, 2012
Logic Mind:

Ewu north, nobody is clinging to anybody. The difference between you and us: We go far and wide in search of better life for ourselves. You just siddon and suck the blood out of others. Like__ em__ PARASITES!
akuyan kudu. Same people u term parasites are the same people u are running to in search of "better life". What a confused fellow. grin grin
Re: Why Is The Protest So Intense In The West And North? Why Are They Bitter? by otokx(m): 11:00am On Jan 10, 2012
the north is the food basket of Nigeria.
Re: Why Is The Protest So Intense In The West And North? Why Are They Bitter? by LogicMind: 11:04am On Jan 10, 2012
emmke:

akuyan kudu. Same people u term parasites are the same people u are running to in search of "better life". What a confused fellow.  grin grin

Still doesn't make you less of a parasite. A lazy parasite begging for subsidy.
Re: Why Is The Protest So Intense In The West And North? Why Are They Bitter? by asha80(m): 11:09am On Jan 10, 2012
DRANOEL:

@post
are you surprised its the north and west? [b]well both regions have always expressed their opinions at critical times of nigeria's history little wonder they determine a lot that happens in the country! [/b]as for the wise men in the east? now you know why they are always schemed out of things! let the true cowards stand up!

thank god that nigeria is now an eldorado.
Re: Why Is The Protest So Intense In The West And North? Why Are They Bitter? by DRANOEL(m): 11:11am On Jan 10, 2012
otokx:

the north is the food basket of Nigeria.

you mean benue grin
Re: Why Is The Protest So Intense In The West And North? Why Are They Bitter? by Gbawe: 11:35am On Jan 10, 2012
ekt_bear:

The attempts to tribalize this are sad and pathetic.

Mark well which people are ethnicizing this issue, Nigerians (and the world at large more generally.)

T[b]hey are venomous vipers.[/b]
 

Indeed. We all know, for example, that Beaf is a despicable creature who cannot match the brightest Nairalanders for intelligence or a fact based analysis of issues. This is why he would rather resort to tactics that stoke the base feudalism and ethnic bigotry he knows will compel scantily educated and ignorant folks to be blindly up in arms.

How can any sane person fall for the nonsense that Tinubu is sponsoring the protest or that the SW and North are the beneficiaries of subsidy hence the reason they protest?

First, Tinubu , if without morals and a pure business animal, should be happy with subsidy reomoval because it introduces a no-holds barred environment within which major marketers can form price cartels to charge Nigerians as high as N200/L for PMS. This would affect all Nigerians and not just the so-called parasites.

Secondly people need to stop talking about "parasite" and addiction to oil in relation to the North and SW. Those talk show nothing but ignorance and reveal that some here have grossly underdeveloped minds. First, a foreigner would ask: are you not all Nigerians regardless of the States you are from? The answer would be yes. He would then ask for the legal position on resource control agreed on by leaders from all corners of Nigeria.

Intelligent Nigerians not into conjecture would tell him that the constitution only provides for the resources within all States to be extracted, controlled and managed for all Nigerians by the federal Government with a 13% derivation paid to the State contributing the resource. The position obtaining for oil would also , for example, be the same if the Government shunned indolence to take advantage of the commercial deposit of valuable resources found throughout Nigeria. The only thing to argue about is the 13% derivation. Of course a good case  can be made for it to be higher but , overall, that should not distract from how a Bayelsan should never call anyone "parasite" with healthy allocation, boosted with a 13% derivation, that should make the State a Paradise for its less than 2 million population.

I would be personally embarrased if Ondo's bauxite deposit (one of the largest in the world) is commercially exploited , with the State recieving 13% derivation, and any Yoruba person is ignorantly condemning others as "Parasites". That would mean we are not sophisticated enough to understand the basic notion of nationhood . It would mean such clannishness render us worthless in the search for solutions to Nigeria's problem. It would also mean base feudalism has totally made us to misunderstand the correct provision governing how all the wealth of Nigeria ,regardless of State of origin, is to be used. Those happy to call their fellow Nigerians "parasites", when they have done nothing wrong and are also bound by decisions made by the centre, should first seek to fully secede and then drink their oil since clearly, they have the view of a six year old child as per ownership of toys and refusal to share. Very OK for a six year old but ridiculous for adults who are supposed to be fellow citizens with others within a national border .
Re: Why Is The Protest So Intense In The West And North? Why Are They Bitter? by LogicMind: 11:46am On Jan 10, 2012
@ Gbawe.
Do you live in a dreamland or what?
The same constitution that guarantees equal division of resources also guarantees security for every nigerian wherever they may choose to reside in nigeria. Either the constitution upholds all it it is meant to guarantee or it is null and void.

Nigeria is breaking up right under your nose. Wise up.
Re: Why Is The Protest So Intense In The West And North? Why Are They Bitter? by emmke(m): 11:52am On Jan 10, 2012
DRANOEL:

you mean benue grin
nah. Not just benue. Most northern states are agricultural powerhouse. Plateau, taraba, nasarawa, kaduna etc are all blessed with fertile lands with significant % of nigeria's agricultural produce coming from them. And last time i checked, benue is NC or has anything changed?
Re: Why Is The Protest So Intense In The West And North? Why Are They Bitter? by Gbawe: 11:54am On Jan 10, 2012
Nchara wrote:

No wonder both groups have misruled Nigeria and practically stole it blind. Useless, THIEVING groups.

Your illiteracy is very amusing. It is however downright laughable combined with your toxic and repellent ethnic bigotry. Only Dinosaurs who see everything through ethnic lenses will not know who the the "Useless, THIEVING groups" are. Igbos are included in that "thieving group" and we should all be fighting them together if not for how illiterates like you remain so amenable to crude divide-and-conquer deception.


You should stop relating fuel subsidy to oil "ownership" while contending others are "thieves" or "parasites". Those consideration don't come into play at all for those who have even a semi-decent grasp of what subsidy represents.

What is happening with subsidy is that income from oil (circa 90% of our total income) is used to subsidize PMS to make it affordable for Nigerians. The same income is used to also subsidize hideously the grotesquely profligate existence of a small number of people involved with the affairs of Government. Why should any sane person then bring "ownership" of oil or "parasitism" into an argument purely about how 160 million should lose out on the benefit of subsidy (circa N300 to 500 billion tops) while less than a thousand individuals , [size=14pt]from all frigging corners of Nigeria[/size], continue to enjoy trillions spent on them yearly because they are affiliated with the Government?

Anyone who knows a progressive nation spending 73% of it yearly budget on recurrent expenditure should bring that to my attention. What part of that argument , if some are not traitors to their nation, should detract from the wickedness of what is going on? Where , for any educated person, is there the allowance to talk about "thieving group" as Nchara does? I just think there are too many folks, with pre-existing grievances they have never dealt with, who just get on issues concerning Nigeria to be talking totally off topic and blindly promoting an incongrous ethnic position that lack merit. A mumu like Nchara does not realise that , now, 100% of the income from crude will be at the disposal of Government to embezzle while,with subsidy in place, Nigerians can still claim to enjoy a small benefit of their oil wealth, very affordable for a responsible and prudent Government, in a corruption-riddled nation where Nigerians from all corners already provide their own water, electricity, security etc, etc.

The Yorubas and Northerners you hate so much will now have more to embezzle with the SS, SE colleagues in the FG - the real "thieving group". You are too blinded by ethnic hatred to see what is really going on. Shior.
Re: Why Is The Protest So Intense In The West And North? Why Are They Bitter? by LogicMind: 11:58am On Jan 10, 2012
Gbawe, whenever you open your mouth, I dash for the air freshner.
Re: Why Is The Protest So Intense In The West And North? Why Are They Bitter? by Dede1(m): 12:01pm On Jan 10, 2012
otokx:

The south south is ashamed for GEJ and we own the oil not the east so get your facts right.

The statement in the above post is eloquently ignorant.

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