GustavoFring:
I think the question you should be asking is who is more useful hmm?
I honestly don't know why you brought Rooney into this argument.

You say Anderson can run the manure midfield. I say he is fat.

You say Rooney is fatter and point to BMI

I dont dispute Rooney's weight issues but point out the BMI is not used to measure professional athletes. Then you ask who is healthier?

Any manager in the world will pick Rooney over Anderson. Fat or not.

So I honestly don't understand why you're trying to compare the two.

afrodoc: LOL just came back to see that Coogar has in his usual manner changed it to an overweight/underweight issue based on BMI.
And of course Rooney got dragged into the debate as usual, i thought this was about the chubby Brazilian?

I know all about BMI and being overweight,obese,morbidly obese e.t.c but for me this was never about that. I dont know about others but i dont think i have ever used the term for Anderson, i always call him FAT Anderson and believe me GustavoFring has proved beyond reasonable doubt with his pictures that speak a thousand words each how jiggly his torso is. I guess u know being fat is not a matter of BMI.
FAT Anderson is FAT, we all know this. That is the reason why he gets specially measured for jerseys and eats alone

And i have to say your knowledge of BMI while commendable is not actually complete. When rating whether a person's weight is at a critical level posing a clear and present danger to the person bariatric surgeons use other parameters e.g co-morbid factors in addition to BMI to judge. So you see the quality of life the person has and his general health and performance are factored into it. They don't just calculate the BMI and prep the person for surgery.

LeBron's overweight BMI is actually good for him as we can see from his performances and as we can expect from his style of play. If he reduces to the weight of Kevin Durant just to have a normal BMI we can expect his performances to drop.

The opposite is the case with FAT Anderson , we see him labor day in day out breathing like an asthmatic patient who fell in a tall field of allergenic grass, trying his best to move his FAT a.ss around the pitch, turning at the speed of the king in Village Headmaster.
He sure is FAT

The nugget for today is for you to realize that there are people who are overweight but not fat e.g LeBron and there are people who are obviously FAT (thanks GustavoFring ) but may not be overweight e.g FAT ANDERSON

montelik: In a strange way I am pleased we will be without Carrick and Jones, Moyes now has little choice but to give Cleverley, Anderson and Fellaini starting berths over the next 2 games. I sincerely hope he doesn't try unnecessary gimmicks, like Rooney or Kagawa in central midfield. Giggs should be amongst the subs just in case.

Let see what the natural central midfielders in the squad are made of.

coogar:

no, you didn't know about BMI..until last nite!

coogar:

if rooney's weight is not a hindrance to his performance, why is anderson's weight a problem. people don't criticise anderson for his performance, they criticise his weight & his susceptibility to injuries.....so why shouldn't i compare him to the great white hope who is less healthier?

GustavoFring:
O.K. for sake of argument, Rooney is 'less healthier'

But Anderson is still FAT.
You always know where you can find the fatso...

EATING!!!!

afrodoc:
guy the doc in the name i use here is not decoration. I have been one for 10 years. BMI?

Read about the Anterior drawer test and the Lachman test, compare and contrast them and give me your assessment of which is a better assessment tool. When u drop a written essay here we can discuss.

coogar:

thank you!!!



it's only in a parallel universe you would call a 69kg, 1.76m man a fatso. mount your bathroom scale & show us what you weigh.

afrodoc: LOL just came back to see that Coogar has in his usual manner changed it to an overweight/underweight issue based on BMI.
And of course Rooney got dragged into the debate as usual, i thought this was about the chubby Brazilian?

I know all about BMI and being overweight,obese,morbidly obese e.t.c but for me this was never about that. I dont know about others but i dont think i have ever used the term for Anderson, i always call him FAT Anderson and believe me GustavoFring has proved beyond reasonable doubt with his pictures that speak a thousand words each how jiggly his torso is. I guess u know being fat is not a matter of BMI.
FAT Anderson is FAT, we all know this. That is the reason why he gets specially measured for jerseys and eats alone

And i have to say your knowledge of BMI while commendable is not actually complete. When rating whether a person's weight is at a critical level posing a clear and present danger to the person bariatric surgeons use other parameters e.g co-morbid factors in addition to BMI to judge. So you see the quality of life the person has and his general health and performance are factored into it. They don't just calculate the BMI and prep the person for surgery.

LeBron's overweight BMI is actually good for him as we can see from his performances and as we can expect from his style of play. If he reduces to the weight of Kevin Durant just to have a normal BMI we can expect his performances to drop.

The opposite is the case with FAT Anderson , we see him labor day in day out breathing like an asthmatic patient who fell in a tall field of allergenic grass, trying his best to move his FAT a.ss around the pitch, turning at the speed of the king in Village Headmaster.
He sure is FAT

The nugget for today is for you to realize that there are people who are overweight but not fat e.g LeBron and there are people who are obviously FAT (thanks GustavoFring ) but may not be overweight e.g FAT ANDERSON

coogar:

thank you!!!



it's only in a parallel universe you would call a 69kg, 1.76m man a fatso. mount your bathroom scale & show us what you weigh.



and tonto dikeh is a virgin....

dademola: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/manchester-uniteds-anderson-says-hes-1494030

GustavoFring:

Anderson must have mastered inter-dimensional travel to a fine art.

Because this photo was clearly not taken in this dimension

afrodoc:
LOL this is beneath you

why not read about those topics i mentioned and take down some notes. Then we can come discuss them here, it would be a form of education for you .

afrodoc: LOL so is tonto dike truly a virgin then?

well since being fat has nothing to do BMI i guess you should have waited until you were more than 10 learn about it

afrodoc:

LMAO so he spends his days visiting pastry shops and "sampling"?
no wonder he has been a teletubbie all these years

afrodoc:

guy the doc in the name i use here is not decoration. I have been one for 10 years. BMI?

Read about the Anterior drawer test and the Lachman test, compare and contrast them and give me your assessment of which is a better assessment tool. When u drop a written essay here we can discuss

coogar:

being fat has a lot to do with BMI.
the inaccuracy can only be found when you compare a non-athlete with an athlete. if the comparison is between 2 non-athletes(elampiro & afrodork) or (rooney & anderson) then BMI analysis is fairly accurate.

GustavoFring: This same Dayo writing a treatise on European football is the same one that claimed that David Beckham had 2 assists in the '99 Champions league final ....

If you cannot remember the momentous events that occurred in a final against your own club,events that happened more recently than '93,'95, and '98, how can you prove that you are not a copy and paste master?

You dey accuse Elampiro when you sef na gaffe master.

I laugh in Portuguese.

afrodoc:

yes i agree.
we should start the next match with cleverley and fellaini and if any of them messes up we can bring FAT Ando in.
Its time people started settling in their natural positions ,we are 3 months into the season

elampiro:
It is clear you have watched plenty of youtube or you have watched these videos again recently or you are a man of 45 years of age to have been so passionate about knowing every player name in 1992 and being able to easily recall now.

Till now, when Man United play big teams as Porto, Monaco, Leverkusen I will not be able to mention more than half of the players names the next day. I will just know we played against 11 men and I saw some of their good players which I could recall their names.

My interest in football is limited to EPL, UCL big matches. Some Laliga matches particularly Madrid and Barca fixtures. Seria top fixtures, sometimes when Bayern and Dortmund meet. Very scantily other leagues. Then the FIFA, CAF, COPA, EURO cups, etc. When Man United beat Leverkusen 4-1, ask me about who scored the one for Leverkusen, I don't know and I don't intend to know. It adds nothing to me. The ones I knew are already enough stress.

So if you like shout from the roof top EPL fans know nothing about other leagues or how elampiro can't remember some things in early '90s, I don't care and won't ever care. I know one of our heroes then was a certain Jin Pere @apin (not sure of the names spellings), but ask me questions about him now, I have since forgotten.
I have a relative who watches football like the way a bank manager is glued to his computer. He watches even South Africa league and knows details. May be in this your new line of argument, I can call him to come and face you. Lol

All those details you want me to know, may be when I become a football analyst for Super Sports, I can begin to make effort to be so detail. If I am not so detail now is memorizing names of players, you could imagine how it was for me in 20 years back when I was preparing to write WAEC, JAMB, etc.

afrodoc:

we are talking about athletes.
was the great Ray Lewis of the Baltimore Ravens fat at BMI 33. If u dont know him check his pics
Is Lebron fat?
so many people are overweight but not fat, not just athletes. because BMI DOES NOT distinguish between muscle, fat and bone.

So u can have a big boned and heavily muscled guy who is not fat registering as overweight in the BMI scale e.g lebron james,ray lewis and so many other people. but u will see fat and jiggly people like anderson register within normal BMI.
do u know why? because bone and muscle contribute more to weight than fat. so the guy with much fat might not register much weight but the big boned and muscular guy will. So u now know why BMI and fat are not synonymous?

HOWEVER fat contributes more to health risk than bone or muscle. So a more accurate assessment of health risk than mere BMI according to most experts would be Body Fat Percentage. But its a more technical and expensive assessment so BMI is done usually.

The nugget for today is that BMI has a lot to do with being overweight but not with being fat

montelik:

I would go with Ando and Tom C, as Fellaini played midweek and he can always start against Leverkusen.

dayokanu:
In the Champions League final Man Utd scored off two corners which were delivered by whom? David Beckham

coogar:

dayokanu, this is fraudulent....
there was about a period of 10 secs between beckham's delivery & the first goal. actually, it was a pinball moment with schmeichel & about 5/6 other players touching the ball in a goalmouth scramble before the goal - how can you credit that goal to beckham?

afrodoc: :DLol resorting to insults again?
U have obviously made a vow against knowledge.
Lebrons height is already factored into the BMI that is why it is weight over HEIGHT SQUARED. There is no need making adjustments for height after d calculation. You are d master of fallacious arguments.
How tall is ray lewis and he weighs 113kg... IS HE FAT? Is the Gronk fat?
Do i have to open ur skull to make u understand that BMI is about being overweight and not about fat or not.
P.s u r d one comparing rooney nd d fat one,for me I have my hands full grappling with anderson's weight

coogar:

dayokanu, this is fraudulent....
there was about a period of 10 secs between beckham's delivery & the first goal. actually, it was a pinball moment with schmeichel & about 5/6 other players touching the ball in a goalmouth scramble before the goal - how can you credit that goal to beckham?

dayokanu: Prove me wrong

Giggs assisted the first goal in the 1999 epic final, Beckham assisted the goal for the second .

I would help you self diagnoze your insanity