It's day three and donstant18 is still yet to tell us why Rafa Benitez couldn't transform real Madrid since according to him, It was lack of money at Everton that made it impossible for him to transform the team.

Ibime:


Kante is a league winner twice with Leicester and Chelsea. He is not a sitting DM although has defensive qualities.

Show me one period where Chelsea has won consistently with Jogginghoe in an attacking set-up.

Even when his father Sarri tried to set things up perfectly for him, below is what we were seeing. After trying to go toe to toe with an attacking set-up and getting hammered 6-0 by City, even Sarri abandoned Sarriball to park bus the next week in Carling Cup final to eek out a 0-0 draw.

Your Jogginghoe is useless in an attacking set-up. Only fool like you think you will park bus to compete for league title


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5axvFrCZWyk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C5Ad2Go1Fk

Didn't Jorginho excel in an attacking set up at Napoli and was a mainstay in the team that reached 91points?

Ibime:


Matip has been consistent for 4 years. Rudiger has only had one great year. Don't let recency effect fool you. Matip has done way better than Rudiger in EPL. When Rudiger was playing in a back 4 like Matip does with two flying fullbacks, 5 games cannot pass without him committing an error. It is even magnanimous to make it a preference choice.

And you don't see Liverpool fans counting Fabinho errors like we used to do weekly with Jogginghoe when we weren't playing Community defence. You think you will garner 97 points and 99 points and be having people counting DM errors weekly like his biggest fans below? Even under TT, we were still counting points dropped due to Jogginghoe against Villa, Arsenal and West Brom just in the final month of last season. Don't deceive yourself.

Can Jogginghoe play successfully and consistently in an attacking set-up? If so mention a time when that happened at Chelsea. I'll wait.

Why are you like this now? Matip that has never crossed 29 PL games for Liverpool is consistent? Please give us Mario's best season and we will compare Rudiger with him in that same season.

So Fabinho is suddenly better than Jorginho and Kovacic. Haba!

Forget it, an attacking setup with a solid partner will cover Jorginho's flaws. He will not have to worry about being an actual DM. However, I want him out of Chelsea ASAP as I don't personally rate him too.

popizaino:



Why shouldnt I bring in another person's achievements to a post that was meant to ridicule this another person in question?


Any explanation pls ?

You are a Pep assli.cker, there's no reason to prove otherwise

Somebody goes against the herd mentality and suddenly he is not a true Chelsea fan
. This shekpite thread na cruise

Trevor012:
Somebody goes against the herd mentality and suddenly he is not a true Chelsea fan
. This shekpite thread na cruise

On this same thread some actually hoped Chelsea lose vs Mourinho yet they are seen as fans

raumdeuter:


On this same thread some actually hoped Chelsea lose vs Mourinho yet they are seen as fans

Was this same person not called out that day?

Chief ibime since you started supporting Chelsea, how many trophies have they won playing possession based attacking football? The problem is with your club not Jorginho

Trevor012:

Didn't Jorginho excel in an attacking set up at Napoli and was a mainstay in the team that reached 91points?

91 points in farmers league with only Juve for company is 75 in EPL

Napoli had the best forwards, the best centre-back in Koulibaly in the league. Jogginghoe must have been the part of the team that let them down. No wonder he never made Serie A team of the season.

Brighton must not escape today like before. Lukaku hatrick.

Trevor012:
Chief ibime since you started supporting Chelsea, how many trophies have they won playing possession based attacking football? The problem is with your club not Jorginho

In modern EPL you have to. And we have done under Ancelotti in 2010

Ibime:


91 points in farmers league with only Juve for company is 71 in EPL

Napoli had the best forwards, the best centre-back in Koulibaly in the league. Jogginghoe must have been the part of the team that let them down

Did Jorginho excel in that attacking Napoli set up or not?

Ibime:


In modern EPL you have to. And we have done under Ancelotti in 2010

So basically you agree Chelsea is not an attacking team?


What period is modern epl? You mean Pep Era or what? What coach do you think will play possession based football with Chelsea currently and win the league in the modern epl?

BikeMan:
You are a Pep assli.cker, there's no reason to prove otherwise

Some of you have misplaced hatred, so let set the record straight. How will you as a Chelsea fan whose natural enemy is Manchester United hate Pep Guardiola that has been giving you some authority over this your natural enemy?

Is the enemy of your enemy not suppose to be your friend ?


If most of you think well you will have more reasons to love and thank pep guardiola than to hate him,but most of you don't think well so I understand were your problem lies.

BikeMan:
Why are you like this now? Matip that has never crossed 29 PL games for Liverpool is consistent? Please give us Mario's best season and we will compare Rudiger with him in that same season.

So Fabinho is suddenly better than Jorginho and Kovacic. Haba!

Forget it, an attacking setup with a solid partner will cover Jorginho's flaws. He will not have to worry about being an actual DM. However, I want him out of Chelsea ASAP as I don't personally rate him too.

Matip shïts on Rudiger 3 out of 4 seasons. Rudiger has never played a good season in a back4, I hope you know, something that's been bread and butter for Matip.

What stats do you want to use to judge them as CBs?

There's no comparison with Fabinho and Jogginghoe since the day they both came to EPL. There's nothing suddenly about it. I hope you didn't knock your head. You just confessed you want Jogginghoe replaced, if a Liverpool fan even dream such thought, he will wake up and slap himself. Someone who manned DM with few mistakes unlike Jogginghoe who we count his detrimental effect weekly if bus isn't parked around him to cover him.

BikeMan:
However, I want him out of Chelsea ASAP as I don't personally rate him too.

BikeMan:
Why are you like this now? Matip that has never crossed 29 PL games for Liverpool is consistent? Please give us Mario's best season and we will compare Rudiger with him in that same season.

So Fabinho is suddenly better than Jorginho and Kovacic. Haba!

Forget it, an attacking setup with a solid partner will cover Jorginho's flaws. He will not have to worry about being an actual DM. However, I want him out of Chelsea ASAP as I don't personally rate him too.

Not entirely on the emboldened.

Trevor012:

Did Jorginho excel in that attacking Napoli set up or not?

Yeah he excelled in making 100 passes and escorting and ultimately failing to win the league in 3 seasons despite having the best attack and best centre-back, while his compadre at Juventus, Miralem Pjanic was voted in Serie A team of the season 4 times.

Brought that nonsense to Chelsea and even Sarri had to park bus after one too many midfield disgraces

Trevor012:

So basically you agree Chelsea is not an attacking team?


What period is modern epl? You mean Pep Era or what? What coach do you think will play possession based football with Chelsea currently and win the league in the modern epl?

Which period are we trying to win league in currently?

Neither did I say I want possession football. I said I want attacking football. That's means playing in the forward zones with the team able to move the block forward and commit more men to attack. You can have possession football in your own half like Jogginghoe without necessarily being attacking.

Man City have now scored 520 PL goals in 212 games under Pep Guardiola.

It took Alex Ferguson 274 matches to reach the same total.

Levels.'

popizaino:



Why shouldnt I bring in another person's achievements to a post that was meant to ridicule this another person in question?


Any explanation pls ?

So Fifa the Best handed Tuchel Men's coach of the year to ridicule Pep? Wow!

Wonders shall never end.

popizaino:
Man City have now scored 520 PL goals in 212 games under Pep Guardiola.

It took Alex Ferguson 274 matches to reach the same total.

Levels.'

Actually not that impressive since SAF took over a midtable team

Ibime:


Yeah he excelled

Exactly.

raumdeuter:


Yet we are seeing people here denying that signing made by Chelsea under Cuntay like Morata Drinkwater Barkley and Bakayoko are not Cuntay signings

We are seeing people claim that signings made by Chelsea under Tuchel like Lukaku are not Tuchel signings

But all signings made by City under Pep are Pep signings

So which is which?

What are the City signings and what are the Chelsea signings. Let's start from that

You have to ask those making such claims directly.

City's signings in the past 5 years is different when compared with Chelsea's signings of the past 5 years.

Only one coach is in City this period. He started the overhaul and continued to tweak and fine tune his squad the way he wants. On the other hand, Chelsea have been hiring and firing. Different coaches making different signings, without any direction.

timbros:


So Fifa the Best handed Tuchel Men's coach of the year to ridicule Pep? Wow!

Wonders shall never end.

This is the post I quoted and everyone knows it was aimed at ridiculing the GOAT himself except for you, you and you alone.

Skimpledawg:

Was this same person not called out that day?

Were some people not angry at Cuntay for humiliating Mourinho and jubilating every goal scored?

popizaino:



One record is based on attacking while the other is based on defence. We now have a clearer view of why one is fading gradually.

The one that is called defense, has had a team that had more goals in a season than the attacking one... ironic?

Ibime:


Which period are we trying to win league in currently?

Neither did I say I want possession football. I said I want attacking football. That's means playing in the forward zones with the team able to move the block forward and commit more men to attack. You can have possession football in your own half like Jogginghoe without necessarily being attacking.

You are basically admitting Tuchel Chelsea is not an attacking team ?

Of course the hate shines through. At this point you should be called the bullshit_ factory.
You say jorginho cannot succeed in an attacking team, Someone who was in an ultra-attacking team that accumulated 91 points in the league. It's pointed out to you, you say it's because of others around him but in Chelsea that have been unstable previously, it's wholly because of jorginho.

BULLSHIT FACTORY. you keep manufacturing bullshite steadily.

It's only you that will call busquet, rodri, jorginho, pirlo "escorts" despite being extremely successful in their teams. in the same vein you want horjtout, a player who is worse than a failure in his team.

As I've said since, you can only Keep hating this player while his star keeps shining bright.

European player of the year.
3rd best balondor player.
UEFA team of the year.
FIFPRO team of the year.
Euros team of the year.
Highly recommended by the elite coaches in the game.
Is there any other player on those lists you think are useless?? Point out one player in these lists you think is useless in football.
Point out any other 3rd placed balondor player you think was useless in football.

Only a bullshite manufacturer would think this player is useless.

Trevor012:

You are basically admitting Tuchel Chelsea is not an attacking team ?

Always said it isn't.

Tuchel will not chance an attacking team with these error players and escort in midfield that will follow players like cameraman when an attack breaks down. That's not to talk of Alonso who will still be jogging back. One of the reason Tuchel won't try it is below.

popizaino:



This is the post I quoted and everyone knows it was aimed at ridiculing the GOAT himself except for you, you and you alone.

The Arteta mentioned there is a Basketballer?

donjazet:
Of course the hate shines through. At this point you should be called the bullshit_ factory.
You say jorginho cannot succeed in an attacking team, Someone who was in an ultra-attacking team that accumulated 91 points in the league. It's pointed out to you, you say it's because of others around him but in Chelsea that have been unstable previously, it's wholly because of jorginho.

BULLSHIT FACTORY. you keep manufacturing bullshite steadily.

It's only you that will call busquet, rodri, jorginho, pirlo "escorts" despite being extremely successful in their teams. in the same vein you want horjtout, a player who is worse than a failure in his team.

As I've said since, you can only Keep hating this player while his star keeps shining bright.

European player of the year.
3rd best balondor player.
UEFA team of the year.
FIFPRO team of the year.
Euros team of the year.
Highly recommended by the elite coaches in the game.
Is there any other player on those lists you think are useless?? Point out one player in these lists you think is useless in football.
Point out any other 3rd placed balondor player you think was useless in football.

Only a bullshite manufacturer would think this player is useless.

You are pained. Do me a favour. Name me a period where Chelsea successfully played in an attacking set-up with Jogginghoe. Facts are stubborn. I will wait.

timbros:


The Arteta mentioned there is a Basketballer?

Remind me again if he was ridiculed ?