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| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by 190: 2:00am On Jun 15, 2012 |
dayokanu: Everytime the dud manages to score they say Torres is BACK i hate dayokanu for this  |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 2:25am On Jun 15, 2012 |
2 goals against my brothers ain't no big deal. The Irish are just here to make up numbers. Let Torres do the scoring against a big team first. How many did he score against Italy? Anyway, if he is truly back that will be a plus for Chelsea. There will be no room for duds in our team next season. |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Babamide(m): 10:37am On Jun 15, 2012 |
BlueDiva: Let Torres do the scoring against a big team first.He had only 2o minutes playing time against italy. Apart from gomez, shevy, bendtner and the russian dude, how many strikes have been that prolific in this tourney. Give the guy some space |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 11:50am On Jun 15, 2012 |
Babamide: Trust me, Torres will still be considered by many as "not back yet" even if he scores 20 goals next season. |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by 1025: 12:13pm On Jun 15, 2012 |
Trust me, Torres will still be considered by many as "not back yet" even if he scores 20 goals next season. @nateevs, na only God go bless u for me. no matter what u do, enemies must have what to say to bring u down.enemies of progress or call them evil men, they cannot see anything good that one does. even drogba that could score with every part of his body and on big occasions, enemies of progress must have what to say. the good news here is, your fate is not in their hands but in the hands of the almighty who linked torres and drogba up with chelsea where money meet with trophies. |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 1:15pm On Jun 15, 2012 |
nateevs: Who exactly are the 'many'? Some of us are just realist. Why call something grey when it's black? I will be the biggest supporter of FT when he finds his scoring boots. You expect sentiment for someone who earns tons of money but can't deliver. |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 1:27pm On Jun 15, 2012 |
BlueDiva: Will you still think Torres is not back yet even if he scores 20 goals next season? If not, then you are not part of the 'many'. If so, well . . .  |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ritchboy(m): 1:38pm On Jun 15, 2012 |
nateevs: But surely Chelsea's center forward should be scoring more than 20 goals a season. . . 20 goals is only a successful season for Sunderland/Aston Villa strikers. Are you intentionally setting the bar low?  |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 1:43pm On Jun 15, 2012 |
No mind Nateevs. 20 goals ke. Na that one we go chop? Sturridge can GUARANTEE Chelsea 20-25 goals if played in no 9 position and Lukaku would guarantee 20 goals. What are we paying Torres for? Oga Lamps cops 20 goals and close to 20 assists for eons, yet Nateevs is/was his number 1 hater. Why should Torres score only 20 goals in a close-to-60 game season? Anything less than 30 goals for Torres is ABJECT FAILURE! This is factoring (a.) His price (b.) The fact he is not tactically robust and can only play one way (through ball) and doesnt help his midfielders game (c.) The sheer amount of times he loses the ball. Infact, anything less than 35 goals is failure cos dude needs to repay 18 wasted months of copping £175k per week to do nothing. |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 1:45pm On Jun 15, 2012 |
ritchboy: Well I am, just in case. For a striker who could not buy a goal, 20 goals next season will be a good place to start. If we are expecting Torres to score 35 goals next season, then we should be in the market for another striker. |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 1:48pm On Jun 15, 2012 |
Ibime: No mind Nateevs. nateevs: Well. . . |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by coogar: 1:52pm On Jun 15, 2012 |
Ibime: No mind Nateevs. sturridge cannot....stop blaspheming! lukaku at this level is worse than bebe....
20 goals/20 assists with at least 40% of those from set-pieces. any retard can score from 12 yards. manuel neuer does that for bayern! make torres the penalty taker, the freekick specialist and let's see if he won't score 30 goals per season.
how many starts would he get in a 60-game season?
how many times did drogba score 30 goals in his 8 seasons at chelsea? twice! ibime, you are a phat philandering phool! |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 2:13pm On Jun 15, 2012 |
coogar: Studge would outscore 20 goals any season of the week. Thats a fact. 8 goals in 12 games at Bolton whilst playing on the right-wing tells me that. 13 goals from the right-wing this season tells me that. You dont need to be a rocket scientist to extrapolate that any team that plays Studge as no 9 will cop him 20 goals at the barest minimum. coogar: Is it Manuel Neuers fault that the bottler Torres cannot hold his nerve from 12 yards? The dud is even begging Mata and Luiz to take his penalties for him (Birmingham and Genk). It is when the stakes are highest that Torres wants to ruin Chelsea football club. Thank God Di Matteo did not allow him take pens in UCL final otherwise we would be playing Europa League now and Harry Redknapp would still be Spuds manager Lampard is the fifth highest goalscorer in English PremLeague history, and has scored 186 goals for Chelsea, only 43 of them being penalties. Thats only 23% of his Chelsea goals. Since Torres started his career in 2000, he has scored 184 goals. In the same time period since 2000, Lamps has scored 195 goals. Even if you take away penalties, its either a shame on Torres part, or a sign of greatness that Lamps should be close to Torres in terms of goalscoring. Keep your filthy trap shut!!! coogar: DD in his first two seasons brought more to the table than Torres could ever bring even if he scores 30 goals. When you talk about SHAPE KEEPING, DD is the ultimate tactical weapon, unlike Dud who does nothing waiting for through pass all game. If Im a midfielder given a choice of playing behind even a 15-goal-a-season DD and a 30-goal-a-season Torres, I take DD anytime. There is no midfielder who didnt profit from DD's hold-up play, whether to set them up or hold the ball up and give them a breather. . . unlike Torres who loses the ball flakily and has midfielders running up and down like a ping-pong. |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 3:04pm On Jun 15, 2012 |
All this is megede fegede. We have thrashed this many times on the forum. DD loses the ball much more than most strikers on earth. Even you argued on this side in the past. Suddenly you are complaining about Torres when the forum is littered with your comments of "Drogba's first touch is like an amateur footballer". You even claimed that you have a better touch than Drogba. What changed? Let's assume for a sec that DD is that fantastic at holding up play (which if anything is the long ball), only a handful of strikers can do it.That's not a stick to beat Torres with. 80% of strikers cannot do it. Not even Lukaku whose frame is similar to Drogba's. Stop sounding like the world's midfielders' spokesman. . Who knows? Maybe 90% of midfielders would prefer Torres. |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 3:15pm On Jun 15, 2012 |
Ibime: Here's a stat for y'all. . . . at the start of the 2nd half, it flashed on my screen that Chelsea had completed 280 successful passes to 140 for Tottenham. . . thats double the amount of successful passes. Back in the day when Ibime had sense. Oya come and tell us what you were saying. This is a classic example of how he jumps about from opinion to opinion. Taking his last post, one would think he's a seasoned football analyst. Ibime's opinion of football is dependent on the wind's direction. .
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| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 3:28pm On Jun 15, 2012 |
I have always hated DD cos I dont believe a team like Chelsea should be playing with a striker as crude as Drogba who has the first touch of a semi-professional footballer. . . . . . DD's link up and movement is poor. Any good build up ends at Drogbas feet.. . . . . Ibime 2010. |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dare2think: 3:41pm On Jun 15, 2012 |
Lol. |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 4:06pm On Jun 15, 2012 |
I disagree with that argument nateevs. There is nothing bad in hailing a player when he improves. DD has evolved from a 'crude' striker to a masterclass. It is senseless to still keep hating a player that has made effort and stepped up his game. I was once a fan of Torres and will still become a fan if he improves. There is nothing wrong in being a critic, while should anybody keep supporting a player who fumbles. Ronaldinho was kicked out of Barca when he lost form. Nobody cares about the fact that he was once a god in Barca. |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dayokanu(m): 4:18pm On Jun 15, 2012 |
Mario Gomez doesnt take dead balls Last season 39 goals including 8 in the CL This season 42 goals including 12 in the CL Why cant Torres do the same? |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 4:32pm On Jun 15, 2012 |
Hehehe. . . This is what you call cheap shots, and twisting of information. Are my views on DD not public knowledge? Can you point out where I've ever said that DD has good touch on the ground? For there to be a contradiction, there must be a contradcitory statement. I said DD holds the ball up and allows the midfield to play whilst Torres is flimsy, does nothing to help SHEKPE KEEPING and has the midfield running back and forth like a ping pong cos he loses the ball all the time. In Nateevs mind, this means I am saying DD has a good touch and Torres has a poor one. The tactical difference is extremely clear between DD and Torres. Yes, even till date, DD's touch on the ground is poor (and was even worse during Scolari era when he was unfit and copped the most brunt of my criticisms) Its obvious to me. . . . whether you put the ball on his chest, head or even on the ground, and you have a brilliant platform for the midfield. . . and this has nothing to do with touch (although his touch in the air - chest, knee or head is the best ever) With Torres, it doesnt matter where you put the ball, it bounces back. Play it to him on the floor, someone would bully him before he gets the ball and he wont touch the ball. So when you say Torres completes more passes than DD, that has little to do with SHAPE KEEPING. Infact Torres is the second worst in terms of pass completion behind DD (the stats are available for all to see). What the stats dont tell you is how many times the ball is played into Torres feet and it doesnt even get there because a defender just barge through, swat him like a fly and take the ball without him touching it (of course, this would not show up on the pass completion stats). This is what I mean about the midfield running up and down like ping-pong because of Torres flimsiness. This is what I mean about SHAPE KEEPING!!! Now show me where I ever said that DD has GOOD first touch on the ground. You would never find one single quote in all my 5 years on Nairaland, and I still maintain it. So where exactly is the contradiction? So why pull up some quote I made about DD pass completion in comparison to Anelka (DD pass completion hasnt changed), however where Anelka compares favourably on passing, working hard for the team and dropping to help the midfield, Torres is a total liability in all aspects. . . and he has no goals to boot, whilst Anelka scored 18 goals in half a season (08/09) in the no9 position. You are comparing Chalk and Cheese if you try to extrapolate a DD vs Anelka argument to a Torres vs DD one. The two striker represent a clash of two ideologies, one which I do not favour. One (Torres) where the striker is merely a recipient of his midfielders efforts whilst the other (DD) is a part of the team in every sense. Trust my love for DD is mostly in comparison to DUD! On the other hand, Nateevs is known for constant idiocy, week-in, week-out. . . his idiocy being so brutally exposed this season. Thank God for RDM. |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 7:01pm On Jun 15, 2012 |
Right. So you suddenly need a page to explain yourself. This is no twisting of words dude. You are speaking English. How can DD hold the ball up and allow the midfield to play when according to you DD's link up and movement is poor. Any good build up ends at Drogbas feet.? --------------------------------------------------------------------- I ain't making anything up. You said it. This is more than 'touch' Ibime. You attacked Drogba's all round play. The long page highlights little. This is not a Drogba V Torres argument. If there's one, it's you making it up. |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 2:52am On Jun 16, 2012 |
cech ivanovic/luiz cahill terry a.cole/bertrand lampard/ramires mikel/romeu meirless/malouda mata/m.marco hazard/sturridge torres/hulk |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 8:59am On Jun 16, 2012 |
nateevs: Right. So you suddenly need a page to explain yourself. This is no twisting of words dude. You are speaking English. I asked you to kindly point out where "holding the ball up and allowing the midfield to play" turned to DD has a good first touch. Everyone knows how DD holds the ball up. . . . and its not the same way Berbatov holds the ball up. Now if you werent a troglodyte, you would know that " DD's link up play is poor" refers to his link up play within that style of system that Scolari, AVB and Ancelotti play. The statement was made during Ancelotti period where the emphasis is on completing 800 passes per game, quick movement and ground footie. Not even DD's biggest fan would say that is DD's strength. . . .cos everybody is a playmaker in that system. . . the likes of Anelka however are well suited to such game. Torres however does not suit that game, nor any other kind of game except "switchback" aka "please put me clear through for one-on-one with keeper". Trying to present a "well known" opinion of mine as contradictory is desperation on your part, after collecting so many verbal trashings this season so I kindly ask you to pull up one post of mine where I said that DD has a good first touch or passing on the ground. . . or to redact your foolishness. |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by 1025: 12:57pm On Jun 16, 2012 |
Mikel Obi Launches Foundation. how come nigerians and nairalanders never know about this development or are we more into negative news? God bless mikel jare. |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 1:44pm On Jun 16, 2012 |
I cannot read all your megede fegede. A lot of mopping up has to be done after a lot of garbage you have spewed in the past. . It's not desperation on my part. More like from you. Now you are trying to reword and re-write history. May be I should quote it for you again. How can claim that . . DD holds the ball up and allows the midfield to play when in actual fact, according to you, DD's link up and movement is poor. Any good build up ends at Drogbas feet It's impossible mate. Your desperation to defend yourself is preventing you from accessing your reading ability. The key sentence here is Any good build up ends at Drogbas feet. You are digging yourself a bigger hole by insisting that you still hold the same view about Drogba from the past. If any good build up ends up at Drogba's feet, how can he bring mid-fielders to play? You cannot hold both views. You have to step down on one and I am waiting patiently to find out which one it is. |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 1:49pm On Jun 16, 2012 |
nateevs: Ibime: Why should Torres score only 20 goals in a close-to-60 game season? ritchboy: Sometimes some Dudes Just fails to Read through the Line! He Only made an Assumption not really Moving On with the View its 20 Goals for El Nino Next Season.  |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 9:01pm On Jun 16, 2012 |
nateevs: I cannot read all your megede fegede. A lot of mopping up has to be done after a lot of garbage you have spewed in the past. . Dude. . . I no get your time. . . We all know what DD is good at, which is holding up balls and allowing the midfield to catch up when Chelsea play deep. Link up play is the quick one-twos and such you play around the box. There is a big difference. "Every good build ends at DD's feet" corresponds to the link up play we were specialising in under Ancelotti, Scolari and AVB where we build up with quick passes and neat interchanges and play posession footie. Its the same thing as saying DD's hold up play is brilliant under Chelsea's style, but his passing and link up would be woeful if he played for Barcelona (which is the style Chelsea were playing at the time of the comment under Ancelotti, and the same style under Scolari where Anelka was much better suited to the quick link ups.) I kindly asked you to show me where I said DD has good touch on the ground and passing ability but you keep clutching at straws. Does DD support his midfield better than Torres? 100% better. Does he hold up play to allow midfielders to catch up and bring them into play? Yes! Does he have good link up play in possession footie? No! Its quite simple. Every lay man knows the answer to all those questions. Now fork off. I have better things to do. |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 10:39pm On Jun 16, 2012 |
I do not have to show you where you said DD has good touch because I never suggested you said so. Cleared. Okay so I like how you come back with half a page/full page of explanations to answer a simple question. Now you are trying to make a difference in the portions of garbage you spewed. I only just got started with you. AVB, Scolari, Ancellotti v Long ball style of football do not matter here as long as you didn't state that when you made he comment. To further bring you back to earth, you made the statement(s) after we lost to Spurs in 2010, as opposed to an argument about Anelka V Drogba which you tried to claim at first. Diva gave you an escape route. A perfect one but you keep digging your hole bigger. I know what DD is and not. Please quit the elementary-esque teachings. . Your statements, without a carefully-worded addendum, is a perfect case of contradiction. So I ask again. . How can you claim, style of football or not, that, DD holds the ball up and allows the midfield to play when in another scenario you claim that you still believe that DD's link up and movement is poor. Any good build up ends at Drogbas feet? There's no explanation for this, in light of the event the statement was made. I say again, you cannot hold both points of view. It's as simple as it gets. You have to step down on one and I am waiting patiently for the one you choose. While I am waiting tough, can you also provide a page of reasons for the following statements? I have always hated DD I dont believe a team like Chelsea should be playing with a striker as crude as Drogba Others are just saying now what I've been saying since I joined NL in 2007. It doesnt matter to me how many goals DD scores, Im sure the team can do better without him |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:17pm On Jun 16, 2012 |
nateevs: I do not have to show you where you said DD has good touch because I never suggested you said so. Cleared. Why should I have to state that when I made the comment? We just watched a match where Chelsea tried to play possession footie so there's no need to state disclaimer that "oh but his style works when we play mechanical footie" That I have always had red eye for DD is not a secret. Every Tom, Dic.k and Harry knows this, so whatever you tell us in not news. The difference between us is that although DD does not play slick style of footie, I am not an idealist. I hate him when we play possession footie, and I appreciate him when we play mechanical footie and he has warmed on me especially since FA Cup semi-final against L'Arse in 2009. Infact, my statements in that Tottenham match is the dying embers of my dislike for DD, and definitely since Torres joined, I have not had a bad word for DD because I choose to focus on the way DD can contribute to the team tactically, knowing that Torres cannot contribute in any way. On one hand, we have Torres who has not contributed anything to possession footie cos he is too loose in possession, and cannot play mechanical style of play cos he is too weak. On the other hand we have DD who is not good at possession footie. . . but priceless in holding the ball up and allowing the midfield to catch up with him when we play JM style of footie. . . another manager who I didnt like cos he took Chelsea down a mechanical path (are you gonna quote my views on JM as contradictions as well? . . . cos I can find you many quotes where I said we need to go back to JM style of footie during Scolari, AVB and even Ancelotti era) All my comments on DD is all in context of the style of play we are seeing. I don't need to justify nonsense to a troglodyte like yourself. You my friend are a capital f.o.o.l, jumping from one argument to another with every Tom, Dick and Harry over simple "comprehension" matters. Your views or opinions are beneath my contempt and hold no more weight than Switch47 or some other troll, having proved yourself a f.o.o.l time without number. You have just started with me? I have just finished with you. All you are arguing here is the difference between two styles of footie, and taking comments based on whatever style of footie we were playing at the time to argue senseless nonsense. Dzeko is awful at linking up with Man City possession players, but was great at holding up play and doing the target man role at Wolfsburg with Grafite. . . all these nonsense page after page of argument is just to prove that this statement is contradictory. I dont have time for your nonsense Nateevs. Make I go tend to my wife. |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 12:05am On Jun 17, 2012 |
Hehehehe. Another page to explain a simple question. . Dude's pissing in his knickers about me jumping from argument to argument when the the simple question I have asked "repeatedly in four consecutive posts". If anything, you are the one who's gone from me celebrating Chelsea's loss over AVB's exit, to you trashing me verbally over the season and numerous other lines you keep finding out, in your view, to dispel the severity of your goof. I have let this slide a number of times but I believe it's time to deal with it once and for all. Can you please point out where I celebrated over Chelsea's loss cos we lost AVB? I will do you the favour of asking again. . . How can you claim, style of football or not, that, DD holds the ball up and allows the midfield to play when in another scenario you claim that you still believe that DD's link up and movement is poor. Any good build up ends at Drogbas feet? How can you hold two contradictory views about a subject? You cannot. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We just watched a match where Chelsea tried to play possession footie so there's no need to state disclaimer that "oh but his style works when we play mechanical footie" Absolute hogwash. You need to state a disclaimer when you go as far as stating. . I dont believe a team like Chelsea should be playing with a striker as crude as Drogba It doesnt matter to me how many goals DD scores, Im sure the team can do better without him "It doesn't matter how many goals he scores" does not take into cognisance, the style of play. As a matter of fact, you don't believe Chelsea should be playing with striker as crude as Drogba. You could have and should have added the a disclaimer but you didn't. These are extreme views of a player and are not based on stats gathered over the course of 90mins. My point is, you are just an attention seeker who says whatever he has to say in the moment. You'll find silly reasons as back up down the line. You criticise Torres every minute for not being able to play with his back to goal. This is despite the fact that Coogar and I have stated constantly that Chelsea do not play to his strengths. So when I see you sucking Drog's toy in a bid to make Torres look like crap, I have to dig up what you said about Drog in the past. To further prove my point, this is you at 3.47 on the 10th Nov, 2008 arguing with Suaron over Lampard. Ibime: See? This is how the forum is littered with your garbage. And NO, Torres' and Drogba's styles of playing have not changed. Fast forward to 2012, DD in his first two seasons brought more to the table than Torres could ever bring even if he scores 30 goals. If Im a midfielder given a choice of playing behind even a 15-goal-a-season DD and a 30-goal-a-season Torres, I take DD anytime. You are a disgrace Ibime. |
| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc(m): 12:20am On Jun 17, 2012 |
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| Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 12:35am On Jun 17, 2012 |
You see when someone is a f.o.o.l, they will always remain so. Thank God BlueDiva told us just yesterday that she was a big fan of Torres before 2010 world cup and will be again if he finds himself. Now the desperate Nateevs is pulling up my post from 2008 where I said that Torres is better than DD. What a joke! Can you compare Demba Ba and Torres in 2008? But for the last 2 years, Demba Ba is better than Torres! Kai! What a sad case! Nateevs has now told me he is not accusing me of ever claiming to have said DD has good first touch and passing. . . but he started his argument by accusing me of contradicting myself by equating DD's hold up play with passing and touch. Since he cant find anything to say I claimed DD has good touch for quick passing, he is now pulling up quotes that I have always hated DD in 2010. Well thank God its not a contradiction. We all hate players, managers etc and love them based on the context of what they can bring to the team. It is not news that I wanted RA's money to build an exciting passing team and disliked JM and DD for bringing a mechanical style. That was 8 years ago! Now the useless question is why did I hate DD in 2010, but love him now? What a waste of time. BlueDiva hated Ramires in his first season, loved him in his second, was criticising him heavily some months ago and ended the season loving him. I hate Ramires in the middle, but I warm to him when he plays on the right wing. If he plays on the right wing effectively into the future, I may even grow to love him. I hate Kalou, but Im always the first to make a case for him to be in the team (as I did this season during our struggles) because he is the only winger with pace. If you start digging quotes about Kalou, Im sure you could start another long argument. I appreciate the qualities that players bring to the team tactically. I started loving DD in 2009 under Hiddink, and would still crticise him into 2010, but still making a case for him tactically as he fits the style of play our players are most comfortable with right now. I have loved DD [b]TOTALLY [/b]since Jan 2011 because it was always a case of what DD brings to the team vs what Torres can bring. No contest. Why should I not love DD in 2012 when he just won us the UCL? When our change in fortune was in reverting to a tactical system that only DD (and Lukaku) can play? After failing to find any contradictory statement, Nateevs is now pulling up quotes to ask me why I hated DD then and love him now. What a jobless eediot. Some of us can think tactically about our players and managers and love them or hate them based on what they bring to the team within different systems. Unlike a stoopid and rigid idealist like Nateevs who will always hate DD and Lampard even if they win everything, and will always love AVB, Torres, Scolari, Deco and Benayoun even if they contribute little or nothing. Now I know why Nateevs argues nonsense all the time about nothing in particular, even pulling up nonsense from 2008, when Torres was the hottest striker around. lol! Finally, nateevs: You criticise Torres every minute for not being able to play with his back to goal. This is despite the fact that Coogar and I have stated constantly that Chelsea do not play to his strengths. So when I see you sucking Drog's toy in a bid to make Torres look like crap, I have to dig up what you said about Drog in the past. In the past two years, what system has not been played to help Torres? Whether long-ball, tiki-taka of Spain or counter-attack, Torres has been a dud for two years. Why should I not Champion the tactical advantage DD can bring when Torres has not been able to contribute anything no matter what system Chelsea or Spain plays? So all this argument because I state what DD can do and what Torres hasnt been able to do?. . . without EVER contradicting myself as I never attributed any skills to DD except for skills that flourish in RDM style of play? So all this argument just because Torres failure is paining you? Guess what? Those particular attribute of DD just helped to win us the Champions League so shut it!!! I did not start hailing DD and clowning Torres after our Champions League win. Wise people like myself, Dayo, Diva and FBS have been saying the same all season even when Chelsea was struggling. Guess what! It has been fully justified!!! If you have nothing substantial to add, make I go attend my business jor. I will only respond you when you pull up my contradictory statement as requested. Otherwise find something better to occupy yourself. |
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