Donbrig: The Edo people don't see themselves as yorubas, but the Edos are the closest to Yorubas in various ways. An Edo man will never betray a Yoruba man to another tribe. A very big part of Edo people's heart belong to the Yorubas. As an Edo man, I can sincerely confirm that the Edos love and cherish the Yoruba people so much, that is why whatever affects them affects us.. And once it comes to politics, both tribes always watch each others back.

Donbrig: The Edo people don't see themselves as yorubas, but the Edos are the closest to Yorubas in various ways. An Edo man will never betray a Yoruba man to another tribe. A very big part of Edo people's heart belong to the Yorubas. As an Edo man, I can sincerely confirm that the Edos love and cherish the Yoruba people so much, that is why whatever affects them affects us.. And once it comes to politics, both tribes always watch each others back.

alj harem:

My point exactly. Waruese ose mwen, Ivineva e yoruba kevbe edo khin, my brother akugbe o e etin.

PapaBrowne:

Alj Harem. You wouldn't get an answer from him because he is a Yoruba man and would not understand your funny connotations!

ikachi1: There were about 33 Ogisos kings and a period of interegnum before the first Oba of Benin who happened to be a grand son of Oduduwa who was from Benin according to documented Benin folklore. Although the Yorubas claim that they were existing before the arrival of Oduduwa, there has been no concrete evidence to justify that claim. Igodomigodo as Benin was then known has a rich history dating back to 3rd century AD. Benin kingdom extended past the present day Republic of Benin. Although the present day Republic of Benin was bearing the name Dahomey, they learnt of their true identity hence the change of name to Republic of Benin. One writer rightly identified the origin of the Obaship of Lagos (Eko) and the Oba of Lagos has not denied this. The Bimis founded many kingdoms and the Yorubas might be one of the big ones.

alj harem:

My point exactly. Waruese ose mwen, Ivineva e yoruba kevbe edo khin, my brother akugbe o e etin.

Donbrig:

Uwese ovbiyemwen okpa mahiakhin

shymmex: It's funny how threads like this about Yoruba are created by igbo posters (obiagu1) - and most of the clowns who troll, and post dumb comments on the same thread are igbos... You guys are inbred with tribalism, and hatred for Yoruba people..

When has Yoruba people ever claimed any minority group?? We don't even claim Yoruboid groups like Ilajes, and itsekiris in Delta - yet, an Igbo poster deem it right to open an idiotic thread to ask a silly question..We don't even claim Yoruba subgroups in both Kwara, and Kogi states - the OP, and Obiagu1 need to get a life.. Worry about igboid groups denying their ancestry, and leave Yoruba people alone..

Keep writing letters to Ikwerre people begging to claim igbo ancestry, clowns - and keep Yoruba out of your mouth.. What do Edo people have that's beneficial to Yoruba anyways.. We may share the same ancestry, but we're different people..

alj harem:

I suppose. The monarchical topic should indeed be a separate one. One of which I am very much interested in because there should be an explanation for the name Oba in the title of the King

shymmex: It's funny how threads like this about Yoruba are created by igbo posters (obiagu1) - and most of the clowns who troll, and post dumb comments on the same thread are igbos... You guys are inbred with tribalism, and hatred for Yoruba people..

When has Yoruba people ever claimed any minority group?? We don't even claim Yoruboid groups like Ilajes, and itsekiris in Delta - yet, an Igbo poster deem it right to open an idiotic thread to ask a silly question..We don't even claim Yoruba subgroups in both Kwara, and Kogi states - the OP, and Obiagu1 need to get a life.. Worry about igboid groups denying their ancestry, and leave Yoruba people alone..

Keep writing letters to Ikwerre people begging to claim igbo ancestry, clowns - and keep Yoruba out of your mouth.. What do Edo people have that's beneficial to Yoruba anyways.. We may share the same ancestry, but we're different people..
This is bvery very irrelevant.
Stick to the topic and do not derail.
The letter you are refering to was written by an Ikwerreman to his Ikwerre organisation.
Thogh you did say Yoruba is different from Edo, but I want you to say that Edos do not see themselvesw as Yorubas. Even third generation Edo people born in Yorubaland do not see themselves as Yorubas. What an abomination.

PapaBrowne: How on earth can we see ourselves as Yorubas?? Where do you live?? Why are Yorubas so love struck with the Binis?? Its a goods thing though! We love you back.

First, Edos have a well documented history and culture that dates back to the 9th century. Well documented I said.
Secondly, Edo is a forbear of various ethnic groups both in the country and outside. These groups have their history and ancestory tied to the EDO heritage. From Uhrobos to Itsekiris to Isokos in the south all the way to Lagos in the west. Interestingly, the whole of Lagos traditional rulership was set up by the Binis. The word Eko is a Bini word. Ever wonder why it is called the Oba of Lagos?
While I wouldn't want to argue history here I would just tell you to judge between these two accounts

Yorubas say Oduduwa fell from heaven.
Edos say Oduduwa was the son of of an Ogiso whose name is Izoduwa(bini word) who was banished from the kingdom. The Benin account is very detailed and laced with real and practical stories and names. The Yoruba account is mere Floklore. Judge for yourself which is right.

The question should be whether the Yorubas see themselves as Edos and not the other way round. And I believe the answer is yes, which is why Yorubas have this love affinity with everything Bini.

shymmex: Some idiotic posters are even claiming that ibini empire extended to dahomey, funny clowns.. The bini empire stopped where it's today.. Bini NEVER in their history conquered the IJEBUS - so, how the phuck did they get to Dahomey then?? Did they fly over our heads like the ogisio (or whatever they are called)? Binin history is overrated IMHO.. And the EKo thing is only limited to Lagos Island (EKO) - please other parts of the Island in Lagos were NEVER under Bini.. I'm from EPE and bini people NEVER ruled over waterside Ijebu people.. Bini history is overrated, period.

alj harem: ikachi, my brother I am waiting for an explanation of the Obaship in Kwara and co

PapaBrowne:

You are very funny. You are looking at historical facts from the perspective of today's motorways!! And who said the road to Dahomey in them days was thru Ijebuland! Eko is closer to Dahomey than Ijebu is. So How did they get to Eko??

Benin history, overrated or not, is the most outstanding compilation of historical events in all of Sub-Saharan Africa. While other tribes including the Yorubas were limited to Oral history which is usually replete with folklore, the Binis documented their history for centuries and all of that is still available for your perusal. A 1000 year history that replete with specific names, actions, locations, events and much more!! You can call it overrated in comparison to others that passed down fables and folklore as evidence of their history.

ikachi1:

From my explanation of Bini link with the Yorubas, you can decide by yourself. If the obaship in Kwara and Kogi are Yoruba linked, you have the answer already. Even within the Yorubas, there were and still there are many kingdoms. This does not exclude them from being Yorubas. I read in one of the dailies long time ago during the chairmanship of the council of Obaship tussle in Yoruba land where the Owa Obokun of Ijesha land even claimed not to be from Ofuduwa's line. Where are they from and how did they get the name Oba? The fist known Oba happened to be a Bibi. Oduduwa was not called an Oba was he? Neither was Oranmiyan who was said to be the first Alafin?

PapaBrowne:

You are very funny. You are looking at historical facts from the perspective of today's motorways!! And who said the road to Dahomey in them days was thru Ijebuland! Eko is closer to Dahomey than Ijebu is. So How did they get to Eko??

Benin history, overrated or not, is the most outstanding compilation of historical events in all of Sub-Saharan Africa. While other tribes including the Yorubas were limited to Oral history which is usually replete with folklore, the Binis documented their history for centuries and all of that is still available for your perusal. A 1000 year history that replete with specific names, actions, locations, events and much more!! You can call it overrated in comparison to others that passed down fables and folklore as evidence of their history.

shymmex: Some idiotic posters are even claiming that ibini empire extended to dahomey, funny clowns.. The bini empire stopped where it's today.. Bini NEVER in their history conquered the IJEBUS - so, how the phuck did they get to Dahomey then?? Did they fly over our heads like the ogisio (or whatever they are called)? Binin history is overrated IMHO.. And the EKo thing is only limited to Lagos Island (EKO) - please other parts of the Island in Lagos were NEVER under Bini.. I'm from EPE and bini people NEVER ruled over waterside Ijebu people.. Bini history is overrated, period.

alj harem: Papabrown, Edo Bini history is not free from folktale etc. Ogiso dynasty which I heard is the greatest dynasty is no different from Oduduwa dynanty. If I remember correctly Ogiso are people that fell from the sky.

Also another fallacy is the fact is it ogiso or something that gave birth to Itsekiri, Ijaw, yoruba etc Sorry sir I for one don't believe that.

Lastly Eko means war camp in Bini while in Yoruba it means farmland

Different people with different way of viewing things. Anthony Oladeji Enahoro was Esan

All Obas of bini have yorubiod names

Pre-Imperial Obas of Benin (1180-1440)
The dates of reigns of these early kings are highly uncertain.[1]
Eweka I (1180–1246) owo mi/we ka (he could not speak and the first word he said at age 7 or 9 which ever one was Owo we ka meaning I can speak now or I understand it now)

This was your first king after Ogiso dynasty isn't it right ? Now what does Eweka mean in edo ?

Even Oba Erediauwa aka which we call Oduduwa

How can a larger empire spanning through 3 different countries come from Edo ? It is totally illogical

Lastly but not the least, All this edo are yoruba or not starting to bore me.