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Obinoscopy: Okay fellow fun lovers, its being a while we last inducted a nairalander into the list as a forum-gamer . Please who is not on this Club-list that should be inducted into this hallowed Club?

komekn: COOLDUN





Gabri Garcia, is signed to FC Lausanne-Sport which currently play in the Swiss Super League ranked 13th in the UEFA's ranking of league coefficients, above Scotland, Sweden , Israel , Denmark and Austria, where they lie in 9th position.

I wouldn’t call that failure for a player who played 7 years at Barcelona, 4 years at Ajax and now in the twilight of his career at 34 is probably on at least £25,000 a month. If you call that failure, what’s your idea of success?

Zidane lost most of his hair before he was 25, Rooney was almost going bald at 23 before he had his hair transplant, Arjen Robben, Jonjo Shelvey are all bald , surprisingly Jonjo is only 20 he started at Arsenal aged 10 years all clearly documented. So loss of hair by your own reasoning is definitive proof of age cheating ACCORDING TO YOU, I reserve my comments.

Please do not be confused, I made reference to age cheating being near impossible in Western Europe and North America not South America i.e. your reference to Falcao.

I don't normally use the term "white men" it’s not part of my every day diction, it’s too general as a descriptive term. Italians, Germans, Scottish all have somewhat different approaches norms, values and cultures to just paint people as just, “white men”. I will correct you most of the people I engage with who are Caucasian mostly see me as a saint and look up to me far from the way you have described it. Which is really strange from someone who purports to have played professional football and lived in Spain.

Finally I may reside mostly in the UK but my heart and spirit are clearly in 9Ja.

COOLDUN: My friend i live and played little football in Europe, i am telling you that some Spanish players in my club in Sevilla Andulucia then used to mock each other after calling up our names and ages, they were even laughing at some of the Spanish players in 1999 junior world cup in Nigeria whom most of them played in their previous teams, i will not mention names but i know what i am saying. I am not telling you to believe because people like you always see white men as saints.

But let me ask you this question. What is the meaning of the declaration of age? who introduced it Africa? from your answer you should use ur tongue to count your teeth. Not only you is living in Europe ok. Spare us the white saints ok.

COOLDUN: I don't have your time, if you can believe that Jesus was born 25Th December why won't you believe everything from the mouth of the whites. Many things contribute to our Nigeria short term in Football not only age.

Many Spanish players who won the 1999 Coca-Cola world cup in Nigeria are not still playing today, e.g Gabri who played with Barcelona, his head is fully bald today if you see him. Stop foolishly arguing on what you don't know. Every country cheats in these underage football tournaments.

Falcao of Colombia is a latest example he cheated in his age in his document. Shockin yourself somewhere because you have not yet reached to argue football with me. Cheat is cheat whether with 1 year or million years.

komekn: Integrity, Truth, Righteousness, Fair-play and Honesty are not meals served regularly on the Nigerian menu as a consequence there are many who don’t know what it smells like to talk less of what it tastes like.

Obi1kenobi your stance though completely true is the minority stance even the Bible vindicates you Matthew 7:14 Narrow is the path ------- --- keep standing for truth the unadulterated truth. Expect persecution its the price to pay for righteousness, you will not be popular.

Dabossman I have travelled, lived and worked extensively across Europe and I can assure you it’s near impossible to falsify birth records, without being caught, furthermore the repercussions of being caught would certainly have very far reaching penalties, it’s simply not worth it. None of those Swedish boys is over 17 believe it and get over it.

9icegee, You can’t move forward without dealing with your past, you don’t build a house on sand, your past determines your future. And a house built on lies will FALL.

COOLDUN No offence but the complete lack of depth of the inferences you have made are indicative of one with very limited capacity for engagement in a global sense, you’re so parochial its shocking

Safarigirl- you need to download and update then widen the horizon of your engagements, the assumptions you make lack substantiation they are essentially emotional sentiments. But I admire your patriotism.

dabossman: You know it's amazing how we erroneously believe that countries in the western world cannot twerk people ages if they want to. We are talking about countries that can give a human being a completely new identity just by clicking a button. I'm talking, new name, new records, new everything if they want to.

Now I'm not saying they cheat at age grade competitions, but if they want to, they can and you would never know. All this talk about "oyinbo can't lie about age, they have records is crap." If they want to, they can just by a few clicks of a mouse.

And as far as U-17 cadets graduating to the senior team is concerned, only a handful usually do for most countries. Between 2-5 at most from a squad of 21. You can google it if you want. Of those that came to Nigeria 2009 (4 years ago) only Neymar is a regular for the Brazilian senior side. Germany has Mario Gotze. Spain can probably claim Isco and Borja (who are not even regulars). Nigeria has Omeruo and Onazi. You can even go back to Korea 2007 if you want. Only a handful progress.

Obi1kenobi: Are you still deceiving yourselves that every country are rotten, corrupt cheats like Naija?
Dey there dey console yourself. I'm sorry for the cynics among you that don't know how other societies work and you think all the rubbish accepted in Naija is accepted everywhere. Sorry ehn? Keep supporting our filthy cheating in youth football while other serious countries compete for real senior football. In 5 years, many of these European players would be playing for their national team because they are grooming them now for the future. As for desperate cheating teams like Naija, in 5 years, you may never see or hear about any of these our boys here - just like Yemi Tella's team of cheats like Chrisantus have disappeared. Bitter truth but I tell it as it is.

safarigirl: I don't think obi and his friend understand me. I'm talking of the present crop and they're talking of the past. In your quest to seem just, don't jump at people. Whatever happened in the past, I don't know, but as of today, this U-17 set is legit, that's all I'm interested in.

dinggle: Na vincent cause am, na vincent Iyama make Ethiopia think say dem sabi play ball. I never see where person cause goal finish e still dey call for goal line technology. I don't talk am... Keshi no let Iyama spoil your record oooo. If we have a good goalie Nigeria will get to the last four in 2014 world cup, but! that is if we can avoid Brazil till the last four.

komekn: Safarigirl,

Let me without offence explain how things work here, I was born in the UK.

From the time your mother goes to hospital, GP, etc to confirm conception its monitored , confirmed data posted and at birth recorded, all your inoculations recorded everything you do from nursery ,to primary school will have your data recorded at a number of national agencies as well as public bodies which are all interlinked. Consider that this is only the first 5 years of your life, before u get to twelve there will be detailed records, of your education, medical history, which is all verifiable and confirmed through a myriad of bodies. Your parent’s insurance, tax rebates, etc details will be linked to you, there profiles will have you as their child recorded.

Essentially, what I am saying is there is no need to have a MRI scan in most EEC and North American countries. I said earlier MRI scans are only indicative, not conclusive and work on very wide generalist parameters. However, the personal data they have on individual citizens is clearly verifiable, unquestionable and proven beyond any doubt as well as being absolutely exact. Therefore they never have MRI scans as a means of proof and verification of age as they already irrefutable precise birth date information.

So Safarigirl no vex no deh provoke anyhow – NUFF SAID 4 d wise.

king94: So,wu is responsible 4 d lack of records in Nigeria.We don't hv a functional society so we hv 2 make do wit wot we hv.I still maintain dat those boiz look U17.If sum1 comes out wit proof(like Adokiye) to show dat dey ar not U17,I'll change my mind.Until then,I prefer 2 giv dem d benefit of doubt until I'm proven wrong.I dnt lyk 2 dwell on d past when I see a different present day.

buchito1: Abeg make una no vex, wat is dis man saying?

safarigirl: lol, no be by face abi? Cos if na by face those Swedish guys are old and you can NEVER beleive your whities cheat. I saw the Venezuelan and Japanese teams today, they actually looked U-17, but this Swedish team? So Kelechi doesn't look U-17? Obi has been stealing meat, today, Emeka stole it, but since Obi ALWAYS does it, he must be the culprit, besides, Obi comes from a thieving family, not Emeka. The MRI test isn't 100% for team Nigeria, but we can trust it for the oyibos, right? Never mind that this MRI test was taken by FIFA, NFF must've paid them good money to cover up the false ages. Your argument is even more pathetic.

Obi1kenobi: It's funny how revealing self-evident truth is "colonial mentality". I guess if I say America is a more developed nation than Nigeria, or Messi is better than Ahmed Musa, that's "colonial mentality" too. I was addressing the first comment claiming white countries are bigger age cheats than Nigeria - which is a blatant lie. That we're not cheating as much as before is because of the new MRI implementation - which isn't foolproof, although it can at least, seperate a 17-year old from the 26-year-olds like Fortune Chukwudi who we were fielding at U-17. If not for the MRI, the same mentality that makes over 90% of Nigerian jambites to cheat (that one na another matter) is the same mentality that makes most Nigerian players to lie about their age.

Europeans - particularly Western Europe - don't age-cheat in competitions. South Americans have been implicated before but they are learners compared to Africans. Among Africans, West Africans are the worst offenders.

Only the new MRI scheme is bringing back some sanity. And they were brought because of teams like us. Europeans don't use MRI's in their age-grade UEFA competitions because they trust their system.

If you like call it "colonial mentality" or "inferiority complex". That's your problem. I state the truth as I see it and I don't condone cheating.

Obi1kenobi: It's funny how revealing self-evident truth is "colonial mentality". I guess if I say America is a more developed nation than Nigeria, or Messi is better than Ahmed Musa, that's "colonial mentality" too. I was addressing the first comment claiming white countries are bigger age cheats than Nigeria - which is a blatant lie. That we're not cheating as much as before is because of the new MRI implementation - which isn't foolproof, although it can at least, seperate a 17-year old from the 26-year-olds like Fortune Chukwudi who we were fielding at U-17. If not for the MRI, the same mentality that makes over 90% of Nigerian jambites to cheat (that one na another matter) is the same mentality that makes most Nigerian players to lie about their age.

Europeans - particularly Western Europe - don't age-cheat in competitions. South Americans have been implicated before but they are learners compared to Africans. Among Africans, West Africans are the worst offenders.

Only the new MRI scheme is bringing back some sanity. And they were brought because of teams like us. Europeans don't use MRI's in their age-grade UEFA competitions because they trust their system.

If you like call it "colonial mentality" or "inferiority complex". That's your problem. I state the truth as I see it and I don't condone cheating.

Obi1kenobi: It's funny how revealing self-evident truth is "colonial mentality". I guess if I say America is a more developed nation than Nigeria, or Messi is better than Ahmed Musa, that's "colonial mentality" too. I was addressing the first comment claiming white countries are bigger age cheats than Nigeria - which is a blatant lie. That we're not cheating as much as before is because of the new MRI implementation - which isn't foolproof, although it can at least, seperate a 17-year old from the 26-year-olds like Fortune Chukwudi who we were fielding at U-17. If not for the MRI, the same mentality that makes over 90% of Nigerian jambites to cheat (that one na another matter) is the same mentality that makes most Nigerian players to lie about their age.

Europeans - particularly Western Europe - don't age-cheat in competitions. South Americans have been implicated before but they are learners compared to Africans. Among Africans, West Africans are the worst offenders. Hey r u still living in der past? R u talking abt den or now? Cos we're all talking about NOW. So I wonder y u're still tied down to THEN. Agreed, Nigeria used to cheat BEFORE. But these PRESENT guys r KIDS. Try to comprehend this pls

Only the new MRI scheme is bringing back some sanity. And they were brought because of teams like us. Europeans don't use MRI's in their age-grade UEFA competitions because they trust their system.

If you like call it "colonial mentality" or "inferiority complex". That's your problem. I state the truth as I see it and I don't condone cheating.

CFCfan: True. These boys are certainly the most genuine ever U-17 squad assembled by Nigeria.

king94: Do u think our present crop ar U17?

networkgenuis: Inasmuch as I would've loved to tow the line of the majority of people that will quote your post, I have to swallow the bitter pill and agree with you.
Truth is really, really BITTER

chinziaski: Thank God I am an engineer. And a mechanical engineer for that matter. It either the man drank alomo before saying this or its a typographical error! Gbam!

Andex12: What the supersport said seems to be the word of NFF. If it is the words of NFF, then we have to see if FIFA punish Ethiopian Football Federation. But some of the complaints seems exaggeration, like traffic and cockroch infested bus. When I am typing this, I am in a traffic jam and I have no choice as many main roads in Addis Ababa are closed or half closed for construction. I don't know how it is possible to nurture or bring cockroches in a luxurious bus. Maybe they saw one or two small ones.

This is not to deny anything. But we have to be truthful. If any Ethiopian body is responsible in any wrong doing, they have to be punished but I can assure you that most people never saw Nigeria as enemy as depicted by NFF or Nigerian media. The people on the photos are evidences of how they treated Nigerians.

Andex12: Would you send me any video statement form Nigerian officials or players mentioning the incident? Seeing is believing. I can't trust a BBC written in Lagos that will use the same newspaper.

Andex12: I heard about that news but it was just one Nigerian newspaper which first fabricated the wrong News. The news of the stoning of Super eagles bus never happened.

safarigirl: does Sunday Mba look older than the 24 he's claiming? I was correcting Sagamite that said Osaze is the only player with his real age. That's bullsheet of the highest echeleon. Now he says he didn't mean that Osaze should be called up, what did he mean then? He even said Osaze is better than Emenike. When last did you pick up a calculator to calculate our chances for qualifying? All these fake analysts tryna discredit a hard-working team when they've never even won a sack race, they must all be watching Disney Junior

safarigirl: I repeat, Osaze is WASHED UP. Nigerian players born in Naija are falsifying their age ke? Na you born them or na you fill out their birth certificate? Even Mikel that took an MRI test for U-17 is falsifying abi? Only a myopic person would think Mikel is in his thirties with him pikin face or Moses sef is in his thirties, mtchew. Please you guys need to come up with another argument, this age thing is stale. Make dem call Osaze, he fit dey clap for the SE when dem play.

Deiok: You will soon know alot of people. Just keep on Nairalanding.

Deiok: You're wrong, alot of persons dont even know if you exist here, this section is a very vast one try other thread in here before claiming youre are occupying here.